@J.Steen You know that guy listened to every single request that was made of him, right? Seems like a model new user to me, even if his question isn't great. He probably just didn't realize closed questions could be reopened. The new one was an exact duplicate of the post-closed edited version of the original.
The whole debate on "should we be lenient towards new users" is something I'll not get into. The question was a duplicate when it was posted - I marked it as such. Then it got deleted. I don't know why you're making an issue of it.
Could we have some delvotes on this? It's apparently no longer an issue since the user decided to fix their screwed up design: stackoverflow.com/questions/29514315/…
@J.Steen I don't know. Usually when I see those I downvote (lack of research) regardless, then either close if it's unclear, or search for a dupe first then answer if it's still a decently specific question.
> @bjb568 If you have evidence of wrongdoing by some party, or better yet evidence that your behavior has improved, please cite it. I want to hear your counterargument. But if the behavior in this thread is any indication, I wouldn't feel comfortable on a site moderated using ad hominem and claims of change. (disclosure: I've frequented the JS room lately, but showed up after any drama) – ssube 5 mins ago
@jonericson oh god what should I do? Debating the issue won't get anywhere, the information is invisible to me (deleted) anyway. If I try to argue, the thread will spiral into chaos and not I g good will come of it. I don't want to continue the conflict. Can the comments be purged?
@J.Steen java gets tons of questions that are answerable in the Javadocs, but for whatever reason people don't read / comprehend. Usually I take the approach of both answering the question and adding a little blurb about where it is in the documentation and how to find things in the docs in general. The idea being to make a friendly suggestion to read the docs and hope that it sticks.
@bjb568 perma lurking accounts that never log out for periods of months that join in the same time period as a known troll and in the same rooms... yea I had my suspicions
@J.Steen It's a pretty good question; I like it anyways. It's clear, a potentially common misconception, with a good answer. Might even be a mini gold mine.
> As your reputation is <10k, I assume you are not aware about what I meant by close votes. So if my assumption is true then FYI this section comes in moderator tools. [Mod nomination - stackoverflow.com/election/6#post-29508583]
I really hope he'll just say something like "Oh yeah, that was years ago and I've learned a lot since about talking to users - while I'm still an advocate of deleting bad content and keeping the site clean - I'd never write to a user using that tone or rhetoric again. All about learning" - or something like that. Since he hasn't - I think it's relevant.
@JasonC Yes, definitely, 100%. If he literally copy-pastes that right now as a comment I'll drop it with a "Thanks, that's very comforting to hear - good luck!" right then and there.
@bjb You wanted to know what to say to end this. ^
