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2 hours ago, by AstroCB

Hmm...I find it interesting that they floor reputation scores instead of rounding.

@AstroCB 9.9k != "has 10k tools"

^ It seems they floor all of the stats – see @hichris123 and @bjb568 "member for 1 year"

@Doorknob True

Ugh; I was so busy with the election that I didn't do my 20 reviews in H&I.

I had a perfect streak up until now.

If I had reviewed three more posts...

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in username: The Venus Factor Diet News by Weight Loss Top on skeptics.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu

12:07 AM

@pizza Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

I bet there's some comment flag material in data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/297131. I made that when I thought AvinashRaj was asking to find things that matched the regex.

@SmokeDetector With the weight-loss tag...

user259867

That's an unsurprising tag at Skeptics: 26 questions. skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/tagged/weight-loss

user259867

Soon to be 25, of course.

woah the Skeptics 404 page is creepy

ɥʇǝS

12:10 AM

@hichris123 my display names borks him..

delete-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/4701212/…

Anyone familiar with ChatExchange: why am I getting a KeyError for the room number when I try to invoke watch_socket on a Room instance?

Hey @Andy; that "noisy comment" automation thing you were talking about; check out data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/297131/…. Comments that are the same thing twice seem to be prime candidates, at least ones that only consist of a small number of different characters.

(Some of them are genuine copy+paste errors or whatever.)

12:28 AM

Stop asking all my questions before I even think to ask them @hichris123 :) earthscience.stackexchange.com/questions/19/…

@santa YER DISCRIMINATING!

@bjb568 I've never seen a non-discrimination clause mentioning cats. Have you?

Oh. Clause. such funny

@bjb568 I'm glad you caught that.

@AstroCB Because you do room.watch_socket(watcher_function).

12:33 AM

@hichris123 tavern.watch_socket(watcher)

tavern = client.get_room(89)

def watcher(ev, wrap2):
    # ...

that should work...

wat++

huh…

xkcdBot initialized.

xkcd

yay?

12:43 AM

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xkcdBot initialized.

unbork bot pls?

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Sandbox

Formatting Sandbox

^ go-there-plz

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Botlings practice room

A room for bots to try their own logic and that of other botli...

go there

12:46 AM

@bjb568 Moving.

\o/

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[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Has anyone gotten rich mining bitcoins? by Tom the Koi Fish on bitcoin.stackexchange.com

I told @xkcdBot to go away yesterday, but he wouldn't listen. Those disobedient bots :(

@SmokeDetector tpu

12:56 AM

@Doorknob Blacklisted user.

Well top of the morning to you all, after a fine easter long weekend

err... bottom of the evening?

1:12 AM

New mod candidate

3 hours ago, by AstroCB

It's a tad sad that there are a few candidates whom I've never heard of who barely participate in moderation at all yet have rep way higher than me and are going to end up shoving me and other lower-rep-but-more-active-with-moderation candidates out simply because of that.

animuson

@AstroCB Happens every election. People crawl out of the woodwork for a chance at being mod and then when they don't get elected disappear off the planet again

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/14202414/792066

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Tobacco (HBO)

►

lel

@animuson Do you think the kat has a chance?

If I try to use .edit() on a message, it says that it queued the edit, and then it kills xkcdBot.

in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 4 hours ago, by Alexis King

Congratulations to Martijin, Meagar, and Jon Clements as new mods? :)

1:19 AM

aww

Is there a way to get helpful flag count for nominees?

No sticky for link to SO Mod Election?

!!/so2015 (~~abusing~~ utilizing bot efficiently)

@AndrewT. Yay for the 2015 Stack Overflow Moderator Election! Primaries begin in 6 days, 18 hours, 39 minutes and 24 seconds.

@AndrewT. it was anti-hygienic, so they decided against it

Ok ._.

[ SmokeDetector ] Email in answer: Is there any good place on the internet that hosts monster playtests? by Brian Liberge on rpg.stackexchange.com

user259867

1:24 AM

@SmokeDetector fp we should try not to match email-looking-urls. href="http://client03.chat.mibbit.com/#gamerassembly@irc.gamerassembly.net"

@pizza Registered answer as false positive.

IRC is a bit problematic though, since the format is very similar to email, only starting with # for room name :|

SPAM live stream android.stackexchange.com/q/104701/44325

user259867

also urls like domain.tld/?param=abc@xyz.com

user259867

Would be avoided by requiring some character before email, e.g., a space.

I spent too much time fiddling with the vote buttons there.

1:38 AM

Wow, llamas with hats got really really dark

@Santa It's so easy to upvote.

You literally just copy "<a class="comment-up comment-up-off">upvote</a>" into here:

@bjb568 hacker

user259867

Boo table layout.

@bjb568 Make me a userscript and make it fast

1:44 AM

@SantaClaus make it ursalf

sudo make me a userscript

@bjb568 I haz spanish homework to do I put off all break I haz things to do

if (rep < x) {
    upvote();
}

There you go

You may have to write the upvote() method yourself

@SantaClaus One liner with jQuery.

@AstroCB Calm down

1:47 AM

Everything is a one-liner if you remove \ns

Just for you, @bjb: $(".comment-score").html("<a class=\"comment-up comment-up-off\">upvote</a>");

@AstroCB Bjb doesn't believe in jquery.

@AstroCB eww, unnatural

@bjb568 Why?

HTML isn't text.

1:47 AM

@AstroCB He doesn't like the dollar sign because he hates money.

Hey, I said I'm not for communism.

@bjb568 Your comment is a bit rude.

Whatevs.

Get over that. It's not important. It has nothing to do with mod status.

communism != socialism

@bjb568 Rudeness in comments has nothing to do with mod status?!

1:50 AM

No.

personally I'm a big fan of Perónism

> I don't see how going to school would be any different than having a job… – bjb568 26 mins ago

There are some significant differences.

@bjb568 No as in no it doesn't, or no as in you disagree?

As in answer the question. No it doesn't.

I'm sorry, but nobody who thinks rude comments are okay should have a diamond attached to their name (and those comments by extension). Period.

1:52 AM

Rude is subjective. It's rude if you want to see it that way. It could be "firm" or "to the point" or "opinionated" if you want.

Don't you know? If you append a :) to any comment, it immediately makes it ok.

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Either that or make it look like you're not fluent in English.

Rude is anything that can be interpreted as rude. Being called a "joke" is not something that would make me happy.

@AstroCB The most significant being the direction the money flows in while you get a practical education.

... :)

// ==UserScript==
// @name           Election Comment Voting
// @namespace      github.com/AstroCB
// @description  Adds the upvote button back to election pages, as the backend still supports them
// @version        1.0
// @include        stackoverflow.com/election*
// ==/UserScript==
var comments = document.getElementsByClassName("comment-score");

for (var i = 0; i < comments.length; i++) {
	var vote = document.createElement("a");
	vote.setAttribute("class", "comment-up comment-up-off");

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Baked with vanilla JS.

Evil! Nice.

Does the page render the comment scores?

user259867

1:59 AM

@JasonC Yes, those are legitimate votes like any other.

@JasonC Yes; the backend is literally the same.

SE just said "hey, you can't vote on these comments anymore" and removed the voting buttons from the page.

kat approves

animuson

Ok I'm deleting that conversation on Dan's nomination because you guys aren't even talking about Dan's nomination anymore. Keep your comments constructive and on-topic please.

The thing that really irritates me is you can't get permalinks to comments. The notification links are broken too.

@animuson fair, thanks

Hobo Sapiens

2:01 AM

cv-pls dup stackoverflow.com/q/29482483/1864610 (can't use duplicate reason because duplicated question doesn't have an upvoted or accepted answer)

@JasonC They worked at the beginning, but you're right.

@animuson could you screen shot it here first? I havne't read yet

@Roombatron5000 They're gone.

user259867

@Roombatron5000 I haven't read but recognizing the name, realize I wouldn't want to. :/

patiently waits for meta post: "Why can the tavern folk vote on election comments, but I can't??"

2

2:03 AM

we're special snowflakes

Anonymous

Y'all are cheaters.

@Roombatron5000 bjb said "90 reviews? What a joke." on some guy's nomination post, and there was an ensuing argument about rudeness and the position of a moderator to be rude.

Yeah I'm not actually going to touch that script, lol. Seeing comment scores on that page makes me feel weird inside.

... flag? O_o

Hmm I wonder if we can flag comments

Anonymous

2:06 AM

@Doorknob It literally is cheating at the election, if you use that script to draw attention to nomination comments that you care about, in a way that other users can not and is not intended.

@SantaClaus likely.

Anonymous

So I think the message should be deleted to discourage its use.

@JeremyBanks not intended... eh.

@JeremyBanks Flagging it will chatban Astro for 30 minutes. And far enough up in the transcript, it'll essentially be ignored anyway. And it's not that hard to figure it out in any case.

wait, it's starred. meh, still

Anonymous

Flagging it was probably unconstructive. :P

2:07 AM

@JeremyBanks Hmm...unintended use.

I'm going to mark that invalid (although I still disagree with the usage of the script).

Someone may want to delete that.

And the jQuery one-liner above that.

i hate the can't vote on comments election crap

Sorry guys, I'm going to bug report that on meta, but I won't point fingers. I love being evil but that one makes me kind of uncomfortable.

And @bjb explaining how to do it further up.

2:09 AM

@JasonC bug report what?

we should all write the same exact comment that we were going to upvote, so that people know we have the same question, comment, thought too

@JasonC Probably a good idea.

user259867

@JasonC Already reported, even has a bounty. meta.stackexchange.com/questions/245124/…

the problem is that comment voting isn't disabled in the back end

Just don't get me banned.

2:09 AM

@pizza Thanks.

Anonymous

Does the first approved flag = a chat ban?

which is a bug... (never trust user response)

@pizza Oh, that's right.

@JeremyBanks 6 approves are required

That's why I didn't feel bad about writing it.

2:09 AM

The flag is still pending

I just saw that the other day.

If they cared, they'd have fixed it before the election (I assume).

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Ethics

Proposed Q&A site for people interested in the social contract, cultural and commonly accepted rules, and in the roots of ethics.

Currently in definition.

@hichris123 we are very black hat

is @nicael not running?

in Stack Overflow 2015 Moderator Election Chat on Stack Overflow Chat, 8 secs ago, by Doorknob

Oooh, a wild @slugster nominated. This is getting more and more interesting. So many good candidates, so little openings!

user259867

2:11 AM

@hichris123 Will not get out of private beta.

@hichris123 crap proposal

Anonymous

@AstroCB Well, sorry if you get chat-banned. >_>"

already 22 candidates, I guess there will be 44 by the end of nominations, what's your guess?

max 30?

@Roombatron5000 41

2:14 AM

@AndrewT. i think there can be unlimited nominations, just max 30 that can make it into primaries... so if >30 , the top 30 reputations go to primaries

42

Well, anyway, I fixed the script to smooth out the rough edges; it looks stock now.

link? I tried to fix it but it was very borked

@Roombatron5000 oh, I see, thanks.

@bjb568 I'm not entirely sure about distributing it anymore...

2:15 AM

Just do it.

Getting banned is probably not the best thing for a mod candidate.

6

:p

Move along, nothing to see here.

@AstroCB Well, since apparently I'm unintentionally becoming the champion of the "mods are evil" crowd, getting banned might actually be a good publicity stunt.

brb, going to be productive now

I might as well embrace it.

2:16 AM

@JasonC That's a good point.

I'm also a symbol of disconformity.

> See! The tyranny doesn't end. They're trying to silence us!

COZ I'M A KAT!

Achievement: getting banned on nomination phase, and won the election.

Anonymous

Unfortunately, getting banned would probably disqualify you from the election, by putting you below the reputation requirement. :P

Anonymous

2:18 AM

@JasonC Start mass voting-to-undelete. They like that kind of thing.

@AndrewT. The @nicael badge

Or delete before closing stuff or whatever.

@AndrewT. I think that badge is called the David Graeber.

/obscure

@JeremyBanks I'll have to change my name to "ScrewTheSOPoliceState" or something too.

Like this guy meta.stackexchange.com/users/281336/why-se-bulling-new-users

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Xperia V heats up very much near the camera by madcustomer on android.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector tpu NAA

2:24 AM

@hichris123 Blacklisted user.

argh

@Doorknob Blacklisted user.

:3262244 tpu

:3262239 Lol, I was thinking that, but my disdain for occupy runs so deep I can barely type the word.

Anonymous

@JasonC Let's pretend I never said that, then. :P

2:25 AM

Don't worry. My cat's sitting on my lap and I'm moving my head around to keep her head in the way of it.

@JasonC Oh, so you did find @bjb's house.

Haha. Yeah, I thought @bjb'd be happy to see me, but I didn't expect him to just jump right into my lap and start purring.

Man, bluefeet laid the smackdown on Dan.

Anonymous

@JasonC It really looks to me like DanDascalescu's got the best case for the rebel/preservationist vote; you may have a hard time competing with that.

Seriously.

Anonymous

2:33 AM

-- haha, yeah.

> To be honest, I'd really be concerned if you became a mod. You very publicly like to call other users idiot, etc which, in my opinion, is not very mod like. – bluefeet♦ 13 mins ago

@bjb568 Your rude comment is now somewhat justified.

Bluefeet's as good as a :).

But I doubt that you did as much research as @bluefeet did before being rude, so not entirely.

@JeremyBanks I think he's got their vote:

> wtf china

you can do 180 reviews per day max currently... how do you manage to only do half of that in 6 years

2:37 AM

@AndrewT. Yeah, I lol'd at that one.

obviously doing reviews is one of the most important things.. It's called the mod queue for a reason

Anonymous

Who is this nicael character?

@Roombatron5000 Reviews, or flag-handling?

reviews

@JeremyBanks hacker

2:39 AM

Lol

@Roombatron5000 Reviews are not all that important for a diamond moderator.

They're open to all community members (with sufficient reputation) for a reason.

@Doorknob but if a user didn't help in the reviews barely at all, why would anyone think they'd be a benefit to helping in the mod queue?

@Roombatron5000 Reviews are completely different from flags.

Anonymous

@AndrewT. lol, I see. Well, at least they've got lots of MSE points.

(Yes, review activity is a plus, and little to no reviews is concerning, but it's not a top-priority thing.)

@JeremyBanks hah

Yeah, all that's from reporting 1-pixel-off bugs that nobody cares about

Anonymous

2:41 AM

haha

Anonymous

Are they good bug reports, at least? I take too much pride in writing nice bug reports, myself. :P

most of them are good

ehhhh...

Some of them were bugs that we didn't even care how to exploit.

uhhhh...

2:42 AM

I guess...

Sooorrrt of...

Anonymous

A ringing endorsement, I hear!

Such ring.

@JeremyBanks No

He... has a good heart.

2:43 AM

But they're clever

And then sometimes he'll post "Isn't X terrible?" and then self-answer "Well, not really."

:p

And get lots of upvotes

Always attracting dem upvotes

You have to upvote whether you agree with him or not (because if you don't, then you still agree with him).

@Doorknob do you know how many flags he has?

2:45 AM

@SmokeDetector fpu NAA

@AstroCB Registered answer as false positive and whitelisted user.

@Roombatron5000 no idea

destroy-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/2236902/i18n-hello-world

in the primaries/election they show flag count right? they better, this is frustrating election already, can't upvote comments, no nicael yet, ugh..

Wow, that got closed so fast my wifi dropped.

2:48 AM

in Botlings practice room, 2 hours ago, by xkcdBot

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Anonymous

@Roombatron5000 They might hide the flag count for the same reason as they've obscured the reputation and review counts -- they don't want to give people a simple number they can use to decide who to vote for, without looking any further.

@JeremyBanks review counts were never shown.

Night!

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/2245449/… typo

@SantaClaus Peace

@JeremyBanks To get my vote, they must have acceptable numbers.

2:49 AM

@JeremyBanks They obscure it by not being specific, but it's still right there in plain sight.

The voting is still going to be heavily reputation-based.

Q: Reputation value under Meta Participation is misleading

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Reputation shouldn't appear under "Meta Participation" since the reputation value it shows was earned on Stack Overflow not Meta. I understand that a user's Meta reputation is just the same as the main site's reputation. But why even include a Reputation stat under Meta Participation? I could ...

pokes @TimStone

Cats and birds are mortal enemies. I cannot vote for a cat. – bluefeet♦ 48 secs ago

nuuuuuuuuuu

anything-bjb-suggests-auto-status-declined

Nov 24 '14 at 15:29, by bluefeet

@JeremyBanks Dan withdrew. I've got the punk vote back, for now.

Anonymous

@hichris123 Huh... I guess you're right. Got mixed-up with flags, I guess.

Anonymous

2:52 AM

@AstroCB I guess my bias was showing: they don't show any numbers above 20k, and I assumed the viable candidates would all be over 20k.