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ThiefMaster

10:00 AM

Yeah, it is.

Actually, "no trailing whitespace" already implies that

Infinite Recursion

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/252665/…

grgarside

> 0 down vote favorite

Copy-paste from SO :(

ProgramFOX

@InfiniteRecursion The OP was redirected here by a comment from someone...

meta.stackexchange.com for future reference go to discussion tag — Franky 15 mins ago

Infinite Recursion

> Share whatever you have with you. ~ Franky's About Me

Not too bright.

Unihedro

Let's grab them into the SO Tavern and ~~bash them with a stick~~ educate them.

Infinite Recursion

10:09 AM

Noooo, don't go vigilante.

^ needs one more cv

SilentKiller

@InfiniteRecursion gone

Infinite Recursion

Yay

SilentKiller

10:24 AM

NAA android.stackexchange.com/a/104369/14734

ThiefMaster

that's not NAA but a failed spam attempt

(or just a massive amount of stupidity, posting on SE instead of googling)

SilentKiller

but as there is no link so we can't flag as spam. its kind of spam but without link.

ProgramFOX

10:35 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/252666/will-not-know-the-book

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Will not know the book by noora shah on meta.stackexchange.com

bummi

sloppy spam meanwhile

SilentKiller

spam still alive at -6

Infinite Recursion

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/29430433/…

SilentKiller

1 more pls ^

Jan Dvorak

10:55 AM

@SilentKiller I did flag as spam

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: http://www.tryacaiberrypro.com/ by honshis Goer on askubuntu.com

Jan Dvorak

@SmokeDetector also, url in title

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, Blacklisted website: http://www.skinphysiciantips.com/rapid-repair-eye-serum/ by vinc on drupal.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

A pretty obvious URL at that

SilentKiller

both gone

@JanDvorak without link can we flag as spam ?

SmokeDetector

11:02 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: How to make Word 2010 Justified like adobe InDesign ? (w/ PICT) by Janemba on graphicdesign.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Nested quote blocks in body, Blacklisted website: How Effective is it? by aajajuriya on drupal.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu the fixed nested quotes regex works

SmokeDetector

@pizza Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Unihedro

@pizza \o/

SilentKiller

drupal gone

user259867

@SmokeDetector fp ed suggested

SmokeDetector

11:06 AM

@pizza Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

user259867

blacklist candidate: acai ?berry without word boundaries.
May be the next big thing after garcinia?

Jan Dvorak

already was

user259867

@JanDvorak SO, SU and AU are excluded from URL-in-title check.

SmokeDetector

11:33 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Create daily meal plans using nutrition by Dipika Pk on webmasters.stackexchange.com

user259867

SPAM superuser.com/questions/897429/in-the-diets-which-can-make-fast

user259867

blacklist candidate diet ?plan excluding fitness

SilentKiller

@pizza gone

Patrick Hofman

12:00 PM

cv-pls unclear or too broad stackoverflow.com/questions/27633271/…

Kurtis Beavers

@pizza thanks!

SmokeDetector

12:45 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SQL THREE TABLE QUERY FORMATION by user1976891 on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] URL in title, Blacklisted website: http://www.skinphysiciantips.com/rapid-repair-eye-serum/ by MarsaRam74 on meta.stackexchange.com

SmokeDetector

1:04 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in body: Expired EEA family permit for extended family members by Bingo on expatriates.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Unable to re-map certain keys with CompizConfig by cassiopeia on askubuntu.com

Andrew T.

1:23 PM

@SmokeDetector !!/wut?

Patrick Hofman

1:34 PM

What to do with this? stackoverflow.com/questions/29432440/… OP said the referenced Q/A answered the question, so I closed as dup, and now suddenly he says it isn't a dup...

nicael

0

A: Updates to the site

No luv for badges. Svgify please?

Apparently, they forgot about svgifying completely :D

Unihedro

8

A: Move starred onebox images to separate section in starred message list

So... I built this! It's a userscript, direct install link: Click Here (Needs Greasemonkey on Firefox). Please note it's still heavily under development, and things may rapidly change.

^^^ awesome userscript :D

hichris123

1:53 PM

SPAM: stackoverflow.com/questions/29430688/…

SPAM: stackoverflow.com/questions/29430840/…

SPAM: stackoverflow.com/questions/29431561/…

SPAM: stackoverflow.com/questions/29432083/…

SPAM: stackoverflow.com/questions/29377725/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29377725/…

Unihedro

Don't forget to flag the spam seeds

hichris123

@Unihedro Hrm interesting.

Unihedro

@BrianRay This is part of a serial spamming request, please flag it as SPAM (and also visit the transcript and flag more if you're feeling helpful). — Unihedro just now

@hichris123 It's all e-commerce, does that not raise an alarm?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Can I rename my player or world? by dafuq on gaming.stackexchange.com

hichris123

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

1:58 PM

@hichris123 Blacklisted user.

hichris123

@Unihedro Yeah. The accounts are also suspicious.

I poked someone to take a look.

Patrick Hofman

Most of them are gone now.

hichris123

2:16 PM

handled by a nice SO mod. :D

Patrick Hofman

cv-pls repeat >> stackoverflow.com/q/29377725/993547

Unihedro

@PatrickHofman nuke it as spam seed

nvm

Patrick Hofman

@Unihedro Okay, gave it a try.

Unihedro

My spam flag was "disputed" and nothing was done, I wonder why.

Patrick Hofman

@Unihedro Hmmm. Then my will be too :(

Unihedro

2:25 PM

I should rant about it on MSO.

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29399439/…

cv-plz no minimal example stackoverflow.com/questions/29169382/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29380843/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29425123/…

Unihedro

0

Q: Tag synonym request: [intentfilter] -> [intent-filter]

Tag synonym request: intentfilter -> intent-filter

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/29253123/…

Patrick Hofman

@Unihedro Mine was helpful :)

Unihedro

>:(

So unfair.

Patrick Hofman

2:36 PM

@Unihedro Indeed

Bill approved it

Jan Dvorak

Deleted by Community

closed by Bill

HostileFork

So... there's this thing they call the alien credo. It's "Take Me To Your Leader". I'll chattily ask: is there an easy answer these days to who is the leader of StackExchange?

user259867

@HostileFork This guy

2

HostileFork

@pizza I didn't want the truth, I wanted what most people would say.

Whois record is NY, so I assume that's Joel's?

With Jeff gone, Joel would be authority... but they have investors. I'm just wondering. Who owns what.

And how do you escalate "past meta"

Infinite Recursion

2:52 PM

pizza owns everything!

HostileFork

@InfiniteRecursion Joel might take issue with that

@animuson Congratulations, but, please, attend: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/284187/…

nicael

@pizza ;)

@HostileFork that's true and what the most of users say:

Dec 17 '14 at 12:33, by Mooseman is eating pizza

This guy is the Hero of Stack Overflow.

HostileFork

@nicael Well, they are just eating popcorn and watching. That's different. I always assume...

I thought this was kind of heroic, but I couldn't save the -6. But, oh, tales of compu-lore will tell the story... like the old man and the sea. Or something:

-6

Q: Simple c++ program gets compilation errors

when i'm trying to compile this code, it shows error main.cpp:19:3: error: invalid operands of types 'void' and 'int' to binary 'operator!=' this is the file #include <iostream> #include <cstdio> using namespace std; #define $ DEBUG #define DEBUG 1 #define _(out) do{ std::cout << __FILE__ <<...

c++ logging macros gcc-extensions

Unihedro

@HostileFork Jon Skeet

HostileFork

Come on now. -6? The guy was trying.

And in fact, trying something interesting that puzzled the heck out of me because I had no idea how it could compile.

Unihedro

3:03 PM

@HostileFork I know.

That happens in the C++ domain.

HostileFork

Since when does being in the C++ tag give you a license to be an asshole on the internet?

I think they're just old and angry.

Unihedro

I think so too.

HostileFork

@Unihedro I was just asking more specifically about who can pull the plug on the domain if they felt like it tomorrow, who's in charge at that level? Still Joel?

We both used to work for MS.

Emailed him once about something.

user259867

@HostileFork The Board of Directors would be making decisions like liquidation.

HostileFork

@pizza I don't recognize any active usernames there.

Do they operate under aliases?

user259867

3:19 PM

I don't see why management team would have to be active on the sites. The head of a university (president, chancellor, or whatever they are called) typically doesn't teach classes.

user259867

> Our new Remember LiveJournal promotion lets active members like you send their long lost LiveJournal friends an invitation to return. If they accept, both you and your friend will receive a free month of Paid account time! [...]
> Head on over to http://www.livejournal.com/remember/ to help your friends Remember LiveJournal!

user259867

(got an email from them). Remember LiveJournal?

cky

@pizza I had one. Hasn't been updated for nearly 10 years.

Unihedro

@pizza ... What's that?

HostileFork

@pizza Funny you should mention LiveJournal, unless you are stalking my comments left a few moments ago, speaking of which, I have now realized I'm not a StackOverflow Hero thanks to my debugging squad. But I should be.

user259867

3:25 PM

@Unihedro It's a thing you would link to from your AIM profile, under some conditions.

user259867

HostileFork

Thus regardless of what Ech Tee Pee Pee whatever says, I declare myself to be a StackOverflow Hero. Because I actually am.

cky

@Unihedro It's like a precursor to Tumblr. :-P

Except without the animated gifs.

Jan Dvorak

What's tumblr?

HostileFork

I thought LiveJournal being open source was important. Then I installed it.

Unihedro

3:27 PM

Tumblr without animated gifs is... a circle

pointless :D

cky

@HostileFork I've run a local LJ instance before. Wasn't too bad to set up.

HostileFork

@cky Yes, but I tried to modify behavior.

cky

Ah, well, there you go. ;-)

HostileFork

The code capital was disposable, I guess Brad felt he had nothing really and should take the money, but it's like the old saying. "The secret to success is sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made." A lot of people had stake in (whatever).livejournal.com and he said "you figure it out".

Being a sellout isn't cool.

Now admittedly, his first level sellout didn't seem bad, but he sold to a competitor who was going to trash the livejournal brands and domains...they wanted it dead...

If he'd thought about it a slight bit more, and not had dollar signs in his eyes, maybe the trust of a bunch of people sharing their lives under links would matter to him.

Instead, people like me had to engineer scrapes and rebuild. But you learn a lesson.

cky

@HostileFork Eh, LJ had many problems (in terms of community management) even before the Six Apart sale.

HostileFork

3:34 PM

@cky If your point is trust no "one", then I agree. FreedomBox and a few people trying, on a shoestring budget... it is frustrating. Which brings me to my irritation (one of many) and especially irritation with the responses here:

0

Q: Triage All Feature Requests, give an official position and timeline

I grumped at @MartijnPieters about several problems. He said talking to me wouldn't be productive (I think lack of productivity can be a property of more than one party's attitude in a conversation...and I'm getting annoyed at having to mirror all my SO posts due to random deletion risk). But h...

discussion triage se-quality-project

By all marks, SE is looking like it is in the wane, like LJ dying.

And I'm sad, just as I was sad when LJ died and the ostensibly "real" players left...

I guess everyone has to move on.

nicael

I'm unsure about this, but probably pretty soon. — Stéphane Martin 23 secs ago

I didn't realize that designers don't know when their changes are rolled out :D

HostileFork

@pizza I think it would be inadvisable for the president of a university to never talk to any of the teachers. Does anyone who ever comes here know anyone who could (technically) pull the plug on StackOverflow.com or otherwise change things? e.g. does anyone with real power, or contact with real power, come here?

So far, in my readings, Shog9 seems like the most reasoned person, I don't know what kind of power he has.

Kurtis Beavers

3:49 PM

@nicael we can ask a developer for a production build, but generally don't want to ask unless something is mission critical since they occur sporadically throughout the day.

Andrew T.

4:00 PM

Honestly, I'm tempted to rollback this. But this time, I won't, and assume I didn't see that answer from the meta post.

Jan Dvorak

@AndrewT. flag/other?

Alexis King

@AndrewT. Why not just roll it back?

Andrew T.

I don't know, there's conflict inside my mind. I found that revision from this comment, and I don't want to get into the issue.

Alexis King

@AndrewT. You could just roll it back and see what happens. If things get complicated, mod flag?

Shog9

eh, @HostileFork, since you're here and it's not nice to discuss folks who are present as if they aren't... what's going on with this?

HostileFork

4:15 PM

@Shog9 As written. I even gave a talk and linked to the mentioned question. I like to trust that things that aren't spam won't be deleted. All the puzzle framings that I've been archiving as I work were deleted wholesale. No one responded. I got mad, and retaliated on that Q--because there had been a momentary outage of my site--someone cached--and I fix it to the best of my ability, I'd like to believe SO held itself to the same standard.

Shog9

@HostileFork Oh, ok - the old CodeGolf questions then?

Let's figure something out there.

nicael

0

Q: I want to have those voting animations like on Android.SE! Pretty please?

Android.SE quite recently got the redesign which also involved adding those very beautiful voting animtations. I tried to gif them but apparently I'm no expert in this, so that's what I have achieved so far: (For a better representation, you can visit some question and try it) That's oh...

feature-request voting

Shog9

We can either historical-lock them or migrate them to codegolf.stackexchange.com

HostileFork

@Shog9 I'm for that, but note that there has been resistance against wholesale migration.

So I suggested historical lock.

Shog9

yeah, migration is dodgy - some things are worth migrating, but PPCG has its own rules and practices that have diverged from the old game on SO somewhat.

HostileFork

4:18 PM

I'm okay with not showing up in searches, it's the dead link bit and info loss that bugs me.

If I have links and need the data for the puzzle definition, there's no good reason for the link to not still work.

Shog9

@HostileFork that's easily fixed. Can you not vandalize your answers though? Kinda sours the whole discussion.

Alexis King

@nicael Yay, +1'd. I'd been thinking about that myself... just because material design is so cool doesn't mean we can't get the shiny new animations, too! :D

HostileFork

@Shog9 Yeah, well can SO please start responding? It increasingly seems like the only way to get anything done here is to talk to you.

2

Alexis King

^^ I sort of have to agree with that, actually. :P

HostileFork

See my triage question also, that chafes me a bit.

We shouldn't have to drag on you for everything.

Shog9

4:19 PM

@HostileFork mods should be able to handle this. But we're short on mods ATM; election starts Monday. In the meantime, I'll handle it as I see fit and listen to folks complain ;-)

Andrew T.

@nicael migrated to meta.android!?

Alexis King

@AndrewT. yeah, wtf?!

HostileFork

@Shog9 Mods are 23 year olds who create kangaroo courts and try to delete things, and are thwarted by a margin: blog.hostilefork.com/code-trolling-deletion-split-string

nicael

@AndrewT. I don't get it, wut?

Yes, why this migration?

Andrew T.

and back to MSE o_o

Alexis King

4:21 PM

Well that was odd.

HostileFork

@Shog9 I actually hadn't saved a copy of that, and I don't have the rep on codegolf to see the deletion. I could have lost it. This is where I start getting angry.

Shog9

@HostileFork that's not entirely factual

one sec, I'm writing a script to save myself some time here

bluefeet

@HostileFork hey, I'm not 23

HostileFork

@Shog9 Well, all right, I was griping about one case.

Alexis King

Wait, does that mean I got to vote on @nicael's question twice? :D

HostileFork

4:22 PM

I exaggerate to... um, prove that I can exaggerate. I don't know.

nicael

:DD

Alexis King

wtf it's deleted now

What is happening?!?!

Andrew T.

and appeared again

Alexis King

@JonEricson, are you responsible? :O

HostileFork

@Shog9 Since you're here, and since you're entertaining things to avoid me going and doing something like writing a big "EVERYONE LEAVE STACKOVERFLOW" ragequit (I've actually been an advocate and brought in dozens of users, kicking and screaming)... can I ask you the above question about who's in charge these days, really?

It seems nebulous.

Alexis King

4:24 PM

@AndrewT. MSE has become sentient!

2

Shog9

@HostileFork everyone. Everyone has their own responsibilities.

3

Jon Ericson

@AlexisKing Too early to be moderating. Where's my coffee?

HostileFork

@Shog9 The buck must stop somewhere.

Andrew T.

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@AndrewT. ... did I miss something?

Shog9

4:25 PM

And FWIW, I'm not responding so you don't quit; you should do what you wish to. I'm responding because you deserve a response. I could just roll back your answer and lock it, but that'd be rude.

@HostileFork I think pizza already linked to the management page. In theory, that's the backstop.

Unihedro

@Shog9 In practice?..

Alexis King

@Shog9 Shog, the hero SE deserves, though perhaps currently not the one it needs.

HostileFork

@Shog9 I was very disappointed by the reactions to this. Is my disappointment the end of the line there? Be disappointed?

Shog9

@Unihedro as I said, everyone has their own responsibilities. You don't let stuff hit the backstop just because you can if it's your responsibility to catch it.

HostileFork

I know asking everyone in the world to play nice and join hands and sing in harmony is asking the moon, and it will never happen, etc. And most of my arguments wind up that way. Sure.

"Nice doesn't scale." I dislike that answer. I will dislike it to my last breath, but... it turns out it's kind of right sometimes.

Alexis King

4:28 PM

@HostileFork Your post is currently sitting at +/- 0, so it's not a lost cause. I do think it might be indicative of the lack of bounties on Meta, though. :/

HostileFork

@AlexisKing I thought you couldn't bounty meta anymore?

Alexis King

@HostileFork Right, that's what I'm referring to.

I think you should be able to, even if it doesn't work exactly the same as on non-metas.

Jon Ericson

@nicael For what it's worth, I misunderstood that you wanted the animations on other sites. I thought the question was about getting the animation code or something. (And then I screwed up reversing the migration because I'm an idiot.) It might be worth spending a few minutes explaining why you think this makes sense for other sites.

HostileFork

Well... I like the idea of opening more up. Of course I'd like to see the SE code open, to see the process open, and I'd like to see the same with GitHub, and to feel like we-the-world are part of a team...

Alexis King

@JonEricson Because it's purty! :p

HostileFork

4:31 PM

I don't do Facebook, in part because it's not that, and SE is not Facebook but... there's this little sliver of being "kind of like it" in the "no soup for you" way... that it is like it.

Alexis King

@HostileFork SE is a for-profit corporation with a real product beyond the Q&A network.

Unihedro

@HostileFork "the third place"?

HostileFork

@AlexisKing Sounds ominous, I thought the product was job ads?

Alexis King

@HostileFork Yeah, Careers is the product, IIUC.

HostileFork

Well I'm happy to let them make their moneys and wish them all the best with that. I don't mind volunteering to an open-licensed Q&A site that gets their money that way, sounds great. I just get mad about the things I mention.

Alexis King

4:33 PM

I don't want to speak on behalf of the company here, since I really have no idea what their opinion is, but I think they're currently extremely wary about opening things up more to non-moderator users because what the general public wants is often not the right solution.

That's not to say there aren't problems, there are.

It's just a point of ongoing research to figure out what the right way to solve them is.

And that takes time and money.

HostileFork

@AlexisKing I know it's an appeal to emotion here, but here's something I found in a box about myself learning to program: blog.hostilefork.com/osborne-one-basic-fun-history

So to me, when I think of this "top result on google" it's always about thinking about that kid, who could be served so well by good information, and watching the horror unfold that could turn people off forever...

Alexis King

@HostileFork There was a discussion a day or two ago about the latest discussion on the SE podcast.

This is definitely something they are aware of and are trying to fix.

It's just hard when a site gets this big with so much crap.

HostileFork

Well sometimes I feel like I'm fighting a one-man battle here. -6? For trying something that I didn't even know could be made to compile? What justifies that?

-6

Q: Simple c++ program gets compilation errors

when i'm trying to compile this code, it shows error main.cpp:19:3: error: invalid operands of types 'void' and 'int' to binary 'operator!=' this is the file #include <iostream> #include <cstdio> using namespace std; #define $ DEBUG #define DEBUG 1 #define _(out) do{ std::cout << __FILE__ <<...

c++ logging macros gcc-extensions

Alexis King

I guess it would be nice if they were a little more open about what they were thinking about, getting feedback from people, etc. That wouldn't necessarily be a bad idea. But it does also take more time that might not really be productive.

Shog9

@HostileFork Nice is a pipedream. Respectful is not too much to ask though, I think.

Alexis King

4:39 PM

@HostileFork I honestly don't know what that was downvoted so heavily. I wouldn't have downvoted it. I can't answer for those who did.

HostileFork

@Shog9 I'd settle for respectful.

Shog9

@HostileFork I'll respond to this when I have time

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title, Blacklisted website: where to buy Beautemer skin care product health? by Rosa Trombly on meta.stackexchange.com

Alexis King

@HostileFork If you want to dole out justice, you can ask about it on Meta SO and have The Meta Effect raise its score, which it probably will.

Shog9

got my quickndirty macro on deleted codegolf

Andrew T.

4:41 PM

@AlexisKing it's already been mentioned on one of his meta post.

HostileFork

@Shog9 Thank you. Response in kind

Andrew T.

or was it... maybe I mixed something....

hichris123

Ooh look new people. So someone should go close stackoverflow.com/questions/29399439/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/29169382/….

nicael

@JonEricson Ok :) Just a tip: to avoid doubling a post on the original site (where you migrate from), you shouldn't directly migrate from the target site (Android.SE in this case) back, but instead just delete the post on the target site; migration will be rejected, the post would be unlocked on the original site you had migrated from.

hichris123

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7567066 seems like a @bjb568 edit.

Jon Ericson

4:45 PM

@nicael Yeah. I'm an idiot.

hichris123

@nicael Or you clear the migration on the original site & nuke it on the migrated site.

Braiam

another example why migration is tricky

hichris123

@Shog9 IT LIVES stackoverflow.com/election/6

Alexis King

@hichris123 Did bjb invent vanilla-js?

Unihedro

@hichris123 !!!

Alexis King

4:47 PM

@hichris123 :O :O :O

nicael

@hichris123 heh

Andrew T.

@hichris123 !?

HostileFork

@Shog9 though, it looks like your quick 'n' dirty put it on meta? :-/ meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/284187/…

hichris123

@AlexisKing maybe.

Jun 7 '14 at 2:24, by bjb568

(in the format of http://vanilla-js.com)

Shog9

what? I'm not moving anything, just undelete->reopen->lock

hichris123

4:48 PM

Also, I think I need more pings.

Unihedro

2014 Stack Overflow Moderator Election

For discussion surrounding the 2014 moderator election: stacko...

Shog9

?

I'm confused

Unihedro

Does a new room automatically get generated by then?

bjb568

Morning!

HostileFork

@Shog9 Oops, I found my meta question, not the question :-)

Unihedro

4:50 PM

Morning.

Andrew T.

Morning, vanilla JS.

Alexis King

@bjb568 Hands up, we found your sock!

bjb568

@SantaClaus You're so not in sync.

Unihedro

@AlexisKing really?

bjb568

@AlexisKing Who's that and why does he have just over 2k rep?

HostileFork

4:51 PM

I was updating links and searched Google for stackoverflow/hourglass...

hichris123

@Unihedro I feel like this is a CM task.

Jon Ericson

@Unihedro Not automatically, but there should be a room for election chat shortly after the start of nominations.

Andrew T.

but vanilla JS is not pure JS (mindblown)

hichris123

6 mins ago, by hichris123

http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/7567066 seems like a @bjb568 edit.

bjb568

hahaha, I don't get that reject vote

HostileFork

4:53 PM

@Shog9 The actual link is perfectly correct, and again, thank you.

Shog9

0

A: Why was "Hourglass" deleted?

This is exactly why we created the Historical Lock: To be clear: most of these are not great examples of questions that should be asked today… But some of them are, quite frankly, brilliant – and losing them entirely just because they aren’t a good fit for our strict Q&A format is wrong. For ...

@HostileFork no problem. In the future, if something important is getting overlooked... Just ping one of us, in chat or via email. We're always around somewhere, but stuff falls through the cracks sometimes - there's an awful lot of you and a tiny few of us.

getting rage-quitty about it all just puts folks' teeth on edge and tends to make things worse

Andrew T.

Re: SO election page, those links need to be updated... or maybe the pages haven't been created because there's not yet official announcement about it?

Shog9

@AndrewT. those links get updated when the election actually starts

HostileFork

@Shog9 Well, you say that, but not everyone can come here and know exactly who to talk to. If "nice" (or "respectful") doesn't scale, then certainly me going through this doesn't scale.

Andrew T.

@Shog9 Ok, and I assume the tag election will be created on MSO too on that day?

Shog9

5:01 PM

@HostileFork there's a link on the bottom of every page labeled "contact us" - those all go into a queue and are handled in an order known only to God... But they do get handled.

@AndrewT. sure

HostileFork

@Shog9 But if I've never seen it, or used it, and I'm rather savvy all things considered... think of the childrens.

Shog9

see, this is just unfair. You can't see the link; every damn kid with a Facebook problem OTOH...

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Alexis King

> sohg, how do i maek website? pls reply, i need this for my class project

Shog9

in all seriousness, this sorta thing is documented pretty thoroughly. And if you get it wrong once, no harm done - heck, I put my email address in my profile on every site, just so folks who are totally lost can at least find their way to something.

Like I said, for the future

"something"

Jon Ericson

@AlexisKing We saw two of those this week. Must be getting close to crunch time in the semester.

Andrew T.

5:06 PM

SE's general contact us is unique compared to elsewhere contact us

HostileFork

@Shog9 Someone once told me it doesn't matter if you're a great transmitter, if the audience doesn't have the receiver installed.

Shog9

heh. True

bjb568

Huh… that's strange, why don't I have constituent?

Alexis King

@JonEricson Oof, and I was trying to exaggerate as much as possible.

Anyone who says that they're great at communicating but 'people are bad at listening' is confused about how communication works.

HostileFork

@Shog9 I don't just keep bringing up this proposal because I'm trying to be some kind of antagonist, I think it might make a metric difference. (Also, could you say "fixed it" so I can accept that as the answer to this?‌)

Shog9

5:10 PM

@HostileFork I thought i did say that?

HostileFork

@Shog9 Hum, I didn't get a notice. You did.

Shog9

@HostileFork re: first link - we need something like that. The ask question UI needs love badly.

HostileFork

Did it get 7 upvotes in 15 minutes?

Shog9

it's on our TODO list,

Andrew T.

Taverners effect.

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HostileFork

5:13 PM

I have been up a long time and am on a bender of antagonizing SE tonight... although I see by the clock it's now... 1PM. I guess it's not tonight anymore. Now, before you judge, it seems to be the only time I can have an effect.

(Although having an effect seems to be more of a factor of "Talk to Shog9" than "stay up all night on easter weekend drinking tequila." Magic powers of the latter... probably illusion.. the former, apparently gets things done.)

Shog9

last night was the only night in over a week I've actually gotten 8 hours of sleep. I'm very thankful for that.

bluefeet

@Shog9 what's 8 hours of sleep?

nicael

@Shog Just by chance, don't you know what happened to Andrew Barber and he is not a mod anymore? Because he left SO?

Shog9

@bluefeet heaven.

@nicael yes

bluefeet

@Shog9 I'd like to experience that

Shog9

5:17 PM

> In vain you rise early and stay up late, toiling for food to eat-- for he grants sleep to those he loves.

Andrew T.

Andrew Barber needs to update his "About me" :O

Shog9

I've clearly been on someone's shitlist lately

HostileFork

@Unihedro Hum, I didn't know you could see who upvoted or downvoted you if you weren't power-user. I rarely downvote. I downvoted both answers to my triage question, because they ran against my beliefs.

Unihedro

@HostileFork Sorry about linking to the wrong thing, but /posts/id/timeline does tell you that information.

Undo

@HostileFork No one can see who has voted for them how

Unihedro

5:18 PM

@Undo just the count and when

Undo

Yeah

bluefeet

@Shog9 clearly

bjb568

The Relationship Equation - Numberphile

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hichris123

@bjb568 is on spring break, and this is how he chooses to use that time?

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I think this is a device rec request? stackoverflow.com/questions/29435760/…

bjb568

5:37 PM

A rec req?

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hichris123

@bjb568 ?

bjb568

recommendation request

hichris123

yes, that's what I said, right?

bjb568

yes

rene

5:39 PM

yes

yes

yes?

yes

yes!

y yes?

5:51 PM

@nicael Because you didn't VTC stackoverflow.com/questions/29435760/….

Unihedro

@hichris123 Done.

hichris123

oh wait, nicael did VTC. :P

Unihedro

And before you, even.

hichris123

yeah...

ZygD

Hey. Could you please rollback the last edit here: stackoverflow.com/questions/29437059/… ?

I don't have enough rep. to do it

Unihedro

5:54 PM

@ZygD Done. Thanks for pointing it out!

ZygD

ty

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Unihedro

I fixed the code formatting too.

Andrew T.

race condition, but the late editor ignored the "this has been edited for 1 time" notice, posting his edit suggestion (actually, bad enough) and got approved. anyway, already fixed.

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