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6:00 PM

@nicael It's to keep the vast majority of text-based email scrapers from grabbing your email address. Whether or not it's actually effective, I don't know, but it makes people feel cozy.

Alexis King

@LynnCrumbling Thankfully, no. PHP is scary.

Lynn Crumbling

6:13 PM

@AlexisKing I tend to avoid it...

bummi

one vote missing here: stackoverflow.com/q/233088/1699210

Alexis King

one vote still missing here, too: stackoverflow.com/q/29261378/465378

Hobo Sapiens

^^ closed

user259867

Shog is on status-declined spree, declining even his own feature request.

SmokeDetector

6:30 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in answer: Can't join servers by Flor on gaming.stackexchange.com

Jon Ericson

@Woodface In case you were curious, your account was Exhibit A in our internal discussion. ;-)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: EXECUTE TIME OF A FUNCTION IN C(WITH HIGH ACCURACY) by nickL on stackoverflow.com

bummi

@SmokeDetector ignore handled

SmokeDetector

@bummi Post ignored; alerts about it will no longer be posted.

user259867

All-caps are auto-ignored, btw.

ProgramFOX

6:36 PM

If it's already handled, "delete" is enough; it won't be caught again so "ignore" is not necessary.

user259867

Does "delete" actually work?

user259867

@SmokeDetector delete

ProgramFOX

now it's too late

!!/alive?

Jason C

There's also "gone"

ProgramFOX

@SmokeDetector delete

@JasonC That does exactly the same as "delete"

bummi

6:37 PM

@Woodface sorry :/ didn't know

Jason C

Does gone work on not-questions

Oh word

!!/lick

@SmokeDetector gone is the ice cream cone

user259867

So, gone=delete

ProgramFOX

Yes, it's the same. It's handled by the same if statement with a simple or

Jason C

Why does "fp" sometimes delete and sometimes not? Are there rules there?

ProgramFOX

@JasonC rules imposed by chat, deleting is only possible within 2 mins

user259867

6:38 PM

I see it now: if (second_part_lower == "delete" or second_part_lower == "remove" or second_part_lower == "gone")

user259867

I remember @JanDvorak trying "del" which didn't work. No loose matching, I guess.

Jason C

@ProgramFOX Why == for delete/gone/remove but startswith for the rest? Was there some issue?

ProgramFOX

I don't think there was. Not sure why that's different.

AstroCB

-1

Q: How can i create a mute button in Sprite Kit? (Swift language)

var question = print("How_can_i_create_a_mute_button_in_Sprite_Kit?_(Swift_language)")

Kevin Brown

@JasonC That should be because "delete", "remove", and "gone" are in reply to a message, while the other commands (starting with "!!/") aren't replies

user259867

6:47 PM

So, I know the orange review indicator is overcounting etc... but on Math it's getting ridiculous. I see 75 in the indicator right now. Opening the review page in incognito mode shows 6+2=8 pending reviews. The numbers shown to anonymous people have to be actual current task counts, right?

Kevin Brown

@JasonC ...unless you're talking about "false"/"fp"/etc, in which case I have no idea why.

Jason C

@KevinBrown "ignore" and other replies to messages use startswith though (although it is necessary for fp, false, etc to support fpu vs fp and such)

shrug I'm sure I'll still be able to sleep tonight, heh.

Jan Dvorak

@Woodface anonymous people can't do all tasks

user259867

@JanDvorak They can't do any tasks. It shows 6 CV, 2LQ. The other queues never have much in them anyway.

user259867

Let's look at SO... I see 123 LQ + 91 Triage + 12 HIQ + 5+1 other.

user259867

6:50 PM

@Shog9 Hey, I skip audits because they subtract a review task from they puny 20 that I have.

Shog9

@Woodface they're clogged with audits

I still need to figure out what's causing that bug

Or ban anyone who skips an audit

been doing mostly the latter

bjb568

Heh

ProgramFOX

@JasonC Fixed, now it uses startswith for them to.

!!/alive?

@SmokeDetector delete....

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@ProgramFOX Watching this endless list of new questions never gets boring

Jason C

7:02 PM

If you raise a custom mod flag on an audit does it actually make a real flag?

user259867

@SmokeDetector Then you should go Triage them, the queue is almost at 100 now.

Infinite Recursion

I skip a lot in cvq, so I end up skipping a lot of audits as well. /me qualifies to get banned

Bart

@JasonC and if you do so in a forest, does anyone hear it?

user259867

@JasonC I would think not, but I never tried this. Will do when I have access to queues again.

Jason C

Questions about raising flags should be asked on parenting.

bjb568

7:09 PM

Hallo!

Infinite Recursion

Hola!

user259867

yesterday, by bjb568

Remind me to send you a sideways pic tomorrow at lunch.

Infinite Recursion

^ pic should be tilting slightly to the right

Jason C

It should also be bordered by other text at various angles.

And be sure to crop the end of the interesting text out of the picture.

bjb568

7:30 PM

yesterday, by bjb568

user259867

This is hardcore.

Jan Dvorak

7:50 PM

44

A: What's a real-world example of "overfitting"?

My favorite was the Matlab example of US census population versus time: A linear model is pretty good A quadratic model is closer A quartic model predicts total annihilation starting next year (At least I sincerely hope this is an example of overfitting) http://www.mathworks.com/help/curvefi...

rene

@InfiniteRecursion you don't get banned for skipping...

user259867

1 hour ago, by Shog9

Or ban anyone who skips an audit

rene

Oh ... noooooooooo .....

Bart

Don't skip audits. Fail them.

nicael

0

A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

Really who thought that the number of your recent names is clickable? Yes, I know that it was clickable also in the old design, but it's time to fix it. Style it like link Even better, make the whole phrase clickable

Alexis King

8:13 PM

@JanDvorak Well, we've had a good run.

Jason C

@JanDvorak What a great set of answers all around

I may have just gotten smarter.

Jan Dvorak

Castle is not made from Olaf. — Barafu Albino Aug 20 '14 at 18:14

Jason C

+ Russian accent = Awesome

nicael

lol

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Advice for fighting multiple enemies at once by Gaunt on gaming.stackexchange.com

Jason C

8:28 PM

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@JasonC Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Encontrar erro - Arquivo e alocação dinâmica by Fernanda Duarte on pt.stackoverflow.com

AstroCB

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@AstroCB Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Send a customized email to users in a list by jimbob91 on sharepoint.stackexchange.com

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector fp

SmokeDetector

@KevinBrown Registered question as false positive and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

SmokeDetector

9:33 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in title: Helppppppppppppppppp me on 7/15 on codecademy by Hisham Barakat on stackoverflow.com

Lynn Crumbling

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@LynnCrumbling Blacklisted user and registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Lynn Crumbling

^ a page of total junk

flagged abusive.

@SmokeDetector gone

Jason C

Do enough offensive flags on a question cause the system to automatically delete it?

Lynn Crumbling

9:51 PM

@JasonC 6 offensive/abusive or 6 spam. and they stack.

Jason C

And enough VLQ flags send it to the VLQ queue? (Or just 1?)

Lynn Crumbling

@JasonC Not sure about that...

user259867

10:07 PM

@JasonC On sites other than SO, yes: VLQ goes to LQRQ (it does not have "very" in its name). On SO, VLQ answers go to LQRQ and VLQ questions go to Triage. Also, if a post has been through LQRQ once, it won't go there again and will go to mod queue.

user259867

And yes, one flag is enough. However, additional flags are taken into account when deciding how many "Looks OK" votes are enough to dismiss the post from the queue.

user259867

Each additional flag requires one more OK.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: C# - PROJECT DEADLINE - 30TH MARCH by Daud on stackoverflow.com

user259867

^ VLQ. :)

Kevin Brown

> Basically, I just need someone to lend me a sample of the code so that I can comment it and finish it.

user259867

10:09 PM

New podcast: The Plumber’s Up To 67 Coins

user259867

@LynnCrumbling's badge idea is mentioned in the podcast summary.

Lynn Crumbling

@Woodface Ha. The one about getting your question closed by Joel?

NICE.

user259867

Yes, that one. This is the March 6 live-ish podcast

Lynn Crumbling

I'm out .. have a good night.

bummi

rare flags needed? serverfault.com/a/678307/185961

GnomeSlice

10:33 PM

LEFO X FEAT. GARY FRAD - "PRECIOUS TIME" (ORIGINAL MIX)

►

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website: mysql database got corruption by samuelgagnon on dba.stackexchange.com

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu filerepairforum spam

SmokeDetector

@Woodface Blacklisted user.

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector Smells like a seed question

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: Movie airplanes and suction by walter lill on physics.stackexchange.com

user259867

10:42 PM

@KevinBrown Could be, but a legitimate user answered it, so I think the question can stay. There is nothing intrinsically wrong with it, it seems.

user259867

@SmokeDetector tpu offensive

SmokeDetector

@Woodface Blacklisted user.

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector tpu

SmokeDetector

@KevinBrown Blacklisted user.

Kevin Brown

Also going to mention this answer, contains a filerepairforum link that was missed: stackoverflow.com/questions/29192539/…

Unihedro

10:53 PM

@KevinBrown They're back??

bummi

assuming the question was a seed, this one is about a corrupted file too: superuser.com/q/892490/172747

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Blacklisted website, Blacklisted user: mysql database got corruption by samuelgagnon on dba.stackexchange.com

Unihedro

I almost hit rep cap on security.SE with my first answer..

user259867

@SmokeDetector Yes, it's important that code blocks in spam are properly formatted.

Kevin Brown

@SmokeDetector Someone just added the link back

Unihedro

11:02 PM

@MichaelGreen: filerepairforum has been having spam campaigns by leaving posts won Stack Exchange with filerepairforum links, see here. Flag as SPAM. — Unihedro 16 secs ago

user259867

@bummi Why did you edit that answer? Both links there are spam. The whole answer is.

bummi

@Woodface :( still learning ...

user259867

No problem, hopefully the thing will sort itself out. When the file repair links show up where folks aren't familiar with them, there's bound to be confusion.

user259867

@SmokeDetector gone, yay

Unihedro

@Woodface Meh, kill them quick enough then.

user259867

11:08 PM

Kill the folks unfamiliar with file repair? :(

Unihedro

I meant the spam posts, but we can do both, yeah.

user259867

Question flags, queues, edits, roomba, community♦, how does this actually work?.... It's like asking "logarithms, derivatives, integrals, matrices: how does this actually work?" This kind of complexity doesn't get built at once, and neither is it learned...

Unihedro

@AnnaLear With a little bit of youtube.com/watch?v=zjedLeVGcfE, too, I'd imagine. — Jason C 5 mins ago

For sure. And of course a dash of youtube.com/watch?v=DtRNg5uSKQ0 for emergencies. — Anna Lear ♦ 4 mins ago

So following emoticons, emojis and emogifs, we're now in the age of emovids?

tchrist

emogijoes

Unihedro

> I know these starting points, although I don't really know where it goes from there. Also it seems different per site, adding extra complication (with a subset of what I don't understand indicated in bold). Wall of bullets follows, but that's kind of the point; I think this list is an accurate representation of the confusion (background soundtrack while reading list):

Why the circus theme song @JasonC? :p

Jason C

11:11 PM

@Woodface Sure; but for example, a cohesive FAQ does not exist. That's all I'm looking for. The system is undocumented.

@Unihedro Do you think I should remove it? I just thought it was lighthearted and funny.

I'm not trying to come across whiney though.

Unihedro

@JasonC It is funny, but it's also confusing.

Jason C

It's supposed to be confusing.

Lol

Unihedro

:|

tchrist

Not trying to != Trying not to

user259867

I'm not trying not to grade today's exam, but I'm succeeding nonetheless.

Jason C

11:14 PM

Hm. Is it whiney?

tchrist

I smell a flow-chart opportunity here.

Probably xkcd

@JasonC I went looking for the ABSTRACT.

user259867

inb4 closed as too broad.

Jason C

@Woodface Then the problem remains, and only a small subset of people who have been around a while can continue participating in conversations on meta, and the rest of us stay the monkeys with the ladder...

See, I'm stupid, and you'll never be able to understand what that's like.

tchrist

At least your question isn't in poor enough taste to hit the supercollider.

(Not that MSE questions can.)

user259867

@JasonC It's more like you haven't done enough research. For example, how many delete votes are required: the FAQ on deletion links to technical details

user259867

11:26 PM

Granted, under those details you find this:

user259867

@Fundamental that looks like a bug in the undelete code; investigating further. — Jarrod Dixon ♦ Jan 5 at 18:20

user259867

But that only emphasizes the fact that the system has a mind of its own, which no single person can fathom in its entirety.

user259867

On a different topic: Genealogy SE needs some new leadership. Is it you?

tchrist

Any system that's constantly getting tweeked is bound to look baroque and eventually Byzantine as feeping creaturism ramifies into something only Cthulhu Himself can understand.

Unihedro

Cthulhu*

tchrist

11:31 PM

@Unihedro Phone sux.

user259867

> If I die in R'lyeh at least I will die free. -- Shog9's chat profile

tchrist

Shoggoths in Bloom

Doorknob

Anyone got a link to all the Roomba rules? @Woodface?

user259867

@Doorknob It's in the Community's profile.

Doorknob

ah

tchrist

11:33 PM

Yeah in my faves on data.se.

Doorknob

Thanks!

bummi

still in doubt when an offense starts (in opposite to an NAA): electronics.stackexchange.com/a/161662/27928 I personally would have seen it offensive, but flagged for NAA

user259867

NAA looks right to me.

Doorknob

I'd say offensive/abusive

> This answer contains content that a reasonable person would deem inappropriate for respectful discourse.

user259867

Sharply critical, worded in the annoying internet style, so comes across that way.

tchrist

11:37 PM

...Can a question be closed as off-topic due to cooties? — Parthian Shot 5 hours ago

user259867

I project that by 2020 everyone on SE will be sufficiently busy coping with the complexity of the system so that asking and answering questions will be phased out.

tchrist

Sealab 2020

user259867

Early sign: review tubes clogged by audits. Imaginary tasks take over the real ones.

user259867

Like me chatting here instead of grading.

tchrist

Sed quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

bummi

11:44 PM

which part makes the difference the damn narrowminded or the LOLOLOLOL all in all it's something I'd have flagged as offensive/abusive before getting some disputed/declines

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