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12:44 AM

You're quoting from Urban Dictionary? I can't tell you are trolling or not...

delete-vote-pls Vague ramblings on Java & 3d films: stackoverflow.com/q/28571369/1864610

user259867

@HoboSapiens It will be roomba'd in two hours.

@FamousBlueRaincoat It will now. It had an upvoted answer when I posted this.

@AndrewT. That quote is from urban dict, yes.

1:22 AM

cv-pls career advice: stackoverflow.com/q/28801377/1864610

hehe, 4 different close reasons

user259867

So much creativity wasted on writing close reasons.

user259867

The poor OP could not handle this barrage of reasons and self-deleted.

:P

1:35 AM

@@bjb568 what is superping

ooh

Does @@Roombatron5000 work?

seems like regular ping to me

maybe it's a mod thing

@@237813

Yeah, it's a mod ping.

spam android.stackexchange.com/a/101250/44325 (cracking website)

Also, what should I do if I encounter this on VLQ queue? Should I recommend deletion? I can't flag it as spam.

Open it and flag spam.

doesn't matter what happens in queue.

1:40 AM

well if it gets deleted before the 6 spam flags or mod flag then it won't count as spam in system i think

@Roombatron5000 yea, if mod deletes, you get a helpful flag

or if its deleted for any reason

It will still be marked as spam.

by the mod

If it is deleted by owner, then fine. Unless it's an answer. Then high rep users can flag it as spam so it won't show

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Anyway, I'm bookmarking the search for newest answers on Android. Wish there was something like this cross-sites. Like stackexchange.com/filters but for answers.

what is up with the lighter green color on meta.SO profile page and yellow text

user259867

1:44 AM

Yellow text?

Kevin Brown

I honestly like the lighter green

Where's the yellow text?

hichris123

@Roombatron5000 ugh.

in the green

1:46 AM

The accepted post... it's new (but in the end, I almost never open MSO profile again)

oh yeah

yellow is a sick color

or highlight

this doesn't appear to be on topic for lifehacks

Kevin Brown

I just realized you said Meta.SO and not Meta.SE (where they changed the colors recently in the redesign)

user259867

There is no workable concept of "on topic" for lifehacks.

1:51 AM

yes there is

@Roombatron5000 yeah, cv

^^^ yes, I thought it was MSE too, and spontaneously opened that site first :O

kewl, didn't know you could make the dragon curve like that

user259867

Neat. Wish the colors were calmer.

Doorknob

2:07 AM

Yay, meta.stackexchange.com/q/229744/180276 is finally fixed!

user259867

Heh, I got Tenacious badge on SO. Relatively rare.

grats

(too lazy to spell out the whole word)

Doorknob

yet you take the effort to type that entire parenthetical statement, thereby nullifying the effort saved by not typing "con" and "ulation"

:P

user259867

2:29 AM

Portuguessing: when you're trying to figure out if your custom Portuguese search analyzer works, but don't speak Portuguese @m0sa @dhekke

Tweeted by haneycodes on January 13, 2015 at 9:09 PM

Nice term, I like it.

3:04 AM

hehe

user259867

@bjb568 "Please, no more vodka" is translated incorrectly. "нет больше водки" means "there is no more vodka". A refusal to drink more would be "не надо больше водки".

huh okeydokey

gr8

user259867

<-- does not drink vodka, as a matter of fact

me neither!

user259867

I get drunk on reputation.

user259867

3:10 AM

And meta points. Especially meta points.

I never drink alcohol.

I drink juice.

I've never had plain banana juice.

I wonder if it's a thing

user259867

Sadly, searching that question leads to Yahoo Answers.

user259867

No obvious place to ask at SE. Unsure about Seasoned Advice

3:15 AM

I think it'd be on-topic there.

idec really :P

Do it.

wat

> I wonder if it's a thing

There's a [juice] tag.

user259867

The answer is likely "pure banana juice is not marketed because it doesn't taste that great".

user259867

3:22 AM

It's somehow more about business decisions if I'm asking why it's not sold.

user259867

And I wouldn't be asking about how to make it, because I'm not going to.

Seems like it would be really hard to extract the juice - it kind of stays in the pulp

> If you've ever tasted plain banana juice, you're probably familiar with the chalky mouthfeel and bland flavor that normally characterize foods with a lot of starch.

from certain website

> add a bit of amylase

user259867

Yeah, I imagine it being a bit like "potato juice"

user259867

What are the SE sites with the highest % of NAA answers?

3:29 AM

Maybe Android Enthusiasts, with "I have this issue too, plz halp"

you'd know better than me @Fam

prolly SO

cause it's big

but there are many (serious) answerers on SO, compared to handful answerers in android.se

like this android.stackexchange.com/a/101264/44325 :(

user259867

It seems that Android Enthusiasts is losing the audience to forum.xda-developers.com/android -- or lost it already.

3:51 AM

@Frank Most NAAs on SO probably aren't deleted.

lel

Ok, try doing nothing. — bjb568 14 secs ago

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Flagged as non constructive.

meh, parenting mods don't like to delete comments

Oh wait, I misread the question.

Ugh, grammar comoplicate.

user259867

There are two kinds of NAAs: those that cause meta debates about their answeriness, and those that everyone finds totally useless. The second kind will likely get deleted at SO, as elsewhere on SE.

4:05 AM

@Ulkoma I am the author. — Nacib Neme 7 hours ago

lolwut

user259867

One can use SEDE to find such auto-generated comments from reviews, on NAA-flagged answers that were not deleted. And... I don't know, flag them again? Or vote to delete.

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@Pacerier currently all bans are indefinite, but this may change in the near future due to infrastructure changes we're rolling out. — Nick Craver ♦ 1 hour ago

I just remembered to check if the dual + CSS selector with :checked change bug appeared in Safari Nightly, it did not.

How's this look for JS categorization, BTW? jsfiddle.net/65yvjwaz/7

(just the defaults, they'll obviously be mutable when I bother to implement that)

oh noes skawy blue guy is heear!

user259867

4:30 AM

Looks reasonable. If I check a top-level box, then check a second level box and uncheck the top-level box, the second-level box remains checked.

Yeah, doesn't matter really tho,

Don't want a misclick to undo everything else down the tree.

Going to bed…

Night!

Morning!

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SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/150107/…

4:48 AM

very cool post deleted from review message

haven't seen that before

probably b.c i can't see deleted posts

user259867

@Roombatron5000 It was introduced in April

user259867

How can I dynamically create an dropdown menu list in JavaScript? I'm sure this has never been asked before...

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SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/150108/…

@Roombatron5000 This is on the main site now (the new shapes, that is – the colors are the same).

Was it just pushed?

user259867

@AstroCB Yes, it changed within an hour. the reputation changes are now in the same oddly large boxes.

5:02 AM

The Meta.SO green is certainly something.

do you ever wonder if the designers get together and laugh about how they can mess with our minds with such blatantly irritating changes

#4ab471

There are probably children out there holding down spacebar to stay warm in the winter! YOUR UPDATE MURDERS CHILDREN.

user259867

I'll have to ask users to not accept my answers, so that I don't get that color on the profile page.

A: Which is the most credible certification for HTML/CSS ?

-1

Most credible is W3C Schools certification http://www.w3schools.com/cert/default.asp

2

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SPAM superuser.com/questions/884356/…

user259867

5:08 AM

!!/status

user259867

... I see how it is.

naa stackoverflow.com/a/28802796/3366929

!!/alive?

@bjb568 probably better to add indicator for which one is expandable or not (using ... or > or... else!)

5:34 AM

@Doorknob seems instead of getting rid of that min-width , they just transferred it to the scores on the user's profile

5:50 AM

stackoverflow.com/q/28372164/#comment45084793_28372164

> I'm voting to close this question as off-topic because its spam – Alex K. Feb 6 at 18:18

still-naa stackoverflow.com/a/28802796/3366929

user259867

6:04 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250448/…

A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

6:23 AM

0

Halp! Upvotes are black instead of green! Love new borders btw.

How was this bug still unnoticed?

user259867

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/250452/one-to-remember-to-use

user259867

@nicael They are following ledger conventions: black for profit, red for loss.

user259867

Reputation is like money, after all.

user259867

My hobby: casting close votes when reviewing answers in LQ queue.

user259867

6:40 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/150118/…

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SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/150119/…

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SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/150121/…

user259867

Staying up late while the lazy bot is asleep. :(

user259867

A few of my close flags on SO aged away, but not many. I'm still waiting for my first declined or disputed flag on a post.

user259867

7:00 AM

I don't even know... Who knows this Girl

user259867

SO Close Queue is down to 7785. What was it yesterday, before the new aging rules took effect, @Roombatron5000?

user259867

Oh, I forgot hichris has a graph of the queue...

user259867

Steep drop indeed

7:15 AM

Because the math is wrong. — erip 5 mins ago

A++ best comment of the year

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/1635273/1699210 POB, rec

@FamousBlueRaincoat It's under 9000!!!!

Wow, the accept color in the profile pages on MSO is AWESOME!!!

user259867

@AndrewT. under 8000, actually. You don't need 3K to see the stats.

user259867

2 hours ago, by Famous Blue Raincoat

I'll have to ask users to not accept my answers, so that I don't get that color on the profile page.

user259867

7:20 AM

hichris's graph shows the queue momentarily dipping even below 6000, but that was probably a glitch of some sort, quickly corrected.

user259867

SPAM security.stackexchange.com/questions/82814/…

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SPAM cstheory.stackexchange.com/questions/30657/…

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28803396/…

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SPAM superuser.com/questions/884390/…

7:39 AM

security gone

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28804305/465378 unclear

user259867

Someone should ask on meta.SO: "What color is this acceptance?"

user259867

looks pink to me

;)

#E1E818 on #4AB471

I like this yellow

7:47 AM

@FamousBlueRaincoat gone

8:02 AM

Why. Why is coffee god.

Morning!

@FamousBlueRaincoat it is perfect color.

Wow. Noone's talked about a sodding dress so much since Clinton.

@J.Steen #combobreaker

I forget. Has the cape turned into the wind yet again so we don't close-vote "gimme teh codez" questions anymore?

A: Help us test the shiny new "User Activity" page! (Plus a bunch of new features.)

0

Tag scores definetly need some padding; I'd suggest the same new border which is currently around rep changes and answer scores:

Aaand... I have 20 answers here.

Anyone noticed that today MSE became svgifyied?

8:18 AM

And, building on my previous question, as I can never be sure what the flavour of the week is - is this cv:able as POB? stackoverflow.com/questions/28805227/…

CV'd

"This bridge is literally pushing the material to the limits" - I think it's pulling the material to the limits, isn't it? — Jan Dvorak 1 min ago

grammar nazism?

From you? Never.

Your statement is correct, as it's not the bridge that's pushing the materials - it's the construction job.

And technique used.

But. Semantics. =)

@JanDvorak Make "material" plural because it's a general term.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28804902/…

^^

@Unihedro If I understand correctly, it's the rope that's the limiting factor

8:24 AM

Gracias.

@bummi gone

!!/hats?

@bummi Gone.

@AndrewT. gone

I want to use multiple cv-reasons: stackoverflow.com/questions/28805493/…

Or am I wrong? Is it clear? Is it narrow? Does it provide code used and error encountered?

I'll go away and have coffee now. I'm gonna take a break from user-moderation. Too stressful. =D

bummi

8:40 AM

spam meta.stackexchange.com/q/250459/201151

...this chemical can crusade premature ageing. That is what Shog9 used for the Close Votes.

bummi

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/q/150132/20140

spam superuser.com/q/884411/172747

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/q/150133/20140

@bummi gone

spammy morning

9:06 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28804305/465378 unclear (reposting because it's a low-traffic tag)

@bummi gone

10:21 AM

Uhm, is this to much self-promotion?

I wanted to answer: you can do that with SEDE...

Meh. The guy seems to have other useful contributions already

You can still answer

... and outvote him, most likely

OK

Downworthy, I believe, too. It's a very specific request.

Can't you do that with search?

If you want your code reviewed, there's Code Review. You don't have to create artifical demand for your code, satisfy it and then beg for code review through an answer. — Jan Dvorak 10 secs ago

10:25 AM

> README.md

(umm, nope.)

What his app adds is the pdf export...

Wow, so useful, I'll take a PDF of all my SO questions to my interview

@Qantas94Heavy just put the site on floppies

@Bart: what size, 360KB or 1.44MB?

I was going to say 720, but I see I have drilled holes in all of them, so 1.44

10:32 AM

In fact, I find #3 kinda unclear. Looks like you're trying to duplicate SEDE using a web scraper, then add a PDF export to it? — Jan Dvorak 21 secs ago

CV'd

Shouldn't he just take it to Stack Apps or something?

stackoverflow.com/help/whats-meta

^^^ yeah, probably

question deleted

After my comment "Just because you have a great fun building it doesn't mean it's useful for us. We can still vote on the usefulness and people seem to agree that your demand for this app is not useful for us. The answer, however, is probably acceptable. Not great, but acceptable."

It's also on MSE by the way

He just deleted before I could post my answer

Q: Is there any APP that could extract and manage questions from Stackoverflow?

10:42 AM

-2

As it could be very helpful that we can extract the questions that we like from Stackoverflow,i'm looking for a application that could do such following stuffs for me : extract the top voted questions at a given date and tag! extract the answered questions of some given user! ...

sigh ... [feature-request] transfer comment state to another site

Hi again. I don't think this community will be interested in your app either. Not to mention that that app is for stack_Overflow_ specifically makes this question off-topic for the stack_Exchange_ meta. — Jan Dvorak 30 secs ago

Quick Andrew, comment that he could use the API legally :p

^

I left an answer ;)

10:51 AM

I left an upvote ;-)

Though I'd have preferred a roomba

Yeah, agree. I already cv-ed it

Downvoting rene so it can get roomba'd

(and for evil)

Thanks, appreciated

Aren't we lovely?

Yes....

10:57 AM

I can't believe we don't have more visitors here in our wonderful world of charm.

Somebody must be scaring them off...

Q: Bug with misaligning the score after the svgifying operation

-2

Recently MSE was svgifyied - did you notice? and I am surprised to see no thread about it, maybe create it, like it was done on MSO with its redesign? Anyway, here is the first bug: the score in the related / linked questions in the side bar is vertically misaligned (same for "Questions that may...

discussion bug design

well, if you're all so bored...
[tag:cv-pls] http://stackoverflow.com/q/28804305/465378 unclear
^ posting a third time because low-traffic tags :/

already voted on earlier

Hi all...

Whats up ?

11:03 AM

@nicael I don't get it...

@rene I'll keep pestering everyone until I get it closed. :P

@AlexisKing go cross post in the SO Close voters room as well ;)

@Computerone o/

What is this o/ ??

\o

11:06 AM

Frankly I don't know what is o/ and \o ??

\o/

o/\o

>--|-O

Think head and arm @Computerone

List of emoticons

This is a list of notable and commonly used emoticons or textual portrayals of a writer's moods or facial expressions in the form of icons. The Western use of emoticons is quite different from Eastern usage, and Internet forums, such as 2channel, typically show expressions in their own ways. In recent times, graphic representations, both static and animated, have taken the place of traditional emoticons in the form of icons. These are commonly known as emoji although the term kaomoji is more correct. Emoticons can generally be divided into three groups: Western or horizontal (mainly from America...

found it..

;)

11:08 AM

Actually I didn't find proper term when writing "legally". Probably I should've used "proper" instead.

either way... forget it :|

Meh @AndrewT. I thought you meant that it was forbidden.. never mind,... moving on....

Meh

Meh

Aren't "where can I buy" shopping recs?

Yes they are,,

11:13 AM

awesome

O_O

reopen pls meta.stackexchange.com/q/127570/213575

11:30 AM

@Braiam What the? xD

@Braiam why?

@rene is a part of SE policy

is actually "constructive"

OK

@bummi gone

11:46 AM

gone

each time I see amanaP name somewhere, I think they are different users

Wikimedia need opinions!

12:55 PM

> I know I shouldnt answer this as the OP has put no effort whatsoever. But I would like to help

...

...

...

Doorknob

...

user259867

:::

Tell them to go to CodeProject.

1:02 PM

c-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28810406/if-else-in-sql-developer

cv-ed

Thanks

@PatrickHofman you wanted to "c" it... I added C code

@Braiam lol :)

Mooseman

1:26 PM

@PatrickHofman boom

user259867

2:11 PM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/150165/…

Q: I want the old good star back!

-3

Can I haz the circle around the star back? Without circle, it looks tiny and not MSE-ish. Want it back. Old design: New design:

feature-request design

Halp!!! My request is sinking + I really want it.

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SPAM workplace.stackexchange.com/questions/42148/…

uhh... what is that?

user259867

It's a reminder for Shog9 to block all-caps posts network-wide.

2:29 PM

@FamousBlueRaincoat I've already flagged it spam, but now I'm not so sure

@FamousBlueRaincoat but now it's gone.

> TUVOK: That lovely tune is a traditional funeral dirge. NEELIX: I know, but it was the most cheerful song I could find in the Vulcan database.

O_O

2:50 PM

What happens when you try to make a userscript that restores the circle using an archived sprite:

(Sorry about the downvote – I'm team no circle.)

@nicael Yeah :) I was just trying to be funny. It failed :-/

3:11 PM

Anyone other than me that want an inverted heart and a heart as arrows for upvote and downvote, just to confuse people?

@AndrewT. good idea

A: I want the old good star back!

1

Personally, I like the new star because it seems to be a bit cleaner, but I can see from a UX perspective why it may not be as useful as the old button. So, for those of you who hate change (or the lack of circles), here's a userscript that adds the circles back. // ==UserScript== // @name ...

@AstroCB Did you fixed the issue with the padding, or does your userscript still produce output like your pic pasted above ^^

@LynnCrumbling Fixed, but vote margins are very weird.

Ahh.. nice.

SmokeDetector

3:21 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Binge and Weight Loss by Khoti Bachi on meta.stackexchange.com

Spam.

Any android people in here? If so, can you verify this is a dup? stackoverflow.com/q/28813184/656243

2+ more flags...

1..

@SmokeDetector tp

3:23 PM

@Braiam Registered question as true positive: added title to the Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

Looks dupy

@bjb568 Cool.

Gold badge just came along and ~~flagged~~ closed it.

Goooooone.

Close, not flag.

"For fun, I'm trying to design a hypersonic long-range heavy bomber" O_o — bjb568 11 secs ago

@bjb568 This doesn't look correct at ALL.

3:27 PM

will this be roombaed? stackoverflow.com/q/2498123/792066

@bjb568 OP was asking essentially how to run code once, then never again. Answerer is giving information about a singleton as far as I can tell.

not an android dev

pokes @DroidDev

ahh, ok..

@Braiam not unless it's closed

@Undo mm? Question score is -1, it should be, or there's something I'm missing?

A: Turbocharging the Roomba: solutions for premature deletion

3:31 PM

67

The following changes are live now: Deleted questions will be visible to their authors, regardless of those authors' reputation. They won't be linked to anywhere† that they're not already linked, but if someone knows where to find their question and it's been deleted, they should always be abl...

> Automatic deletion of closed, abandoned questions for questions meeting the following criteria:
>
> Closed more than 9 days ago
> Not closed as a duplicate
> Score <= 0
> Not locked
> No answers with a score > 0
> No accepted answer
> No pending reopen votes
> No edits in the past 9 days

@FamousBlueRaincoat it's like they know when he's down :P

A: Enable automatic deletion of old, unanswered zero-score questions after a year?

> If the question is more than 30 days old, and ...

has −1 or lower score
has no answers
is not locked

153

Just to formally document the exact policies we have in place to remove old abandoned / dead questions, the Community user will delete questions in the following circumstances: If the question is more than 30 days old, and ... has −1 or lower score has no answers is not locked ...or... it ...

I think that's obsolete now

haven't ever seen Community do that on SR

@Shog9 ^?

huh, maybe it does

Not sure I like that

Shog9

what?

3:37 PM

we have one post by Jeff and yours that say that community does different things...

@Shog9 is meta.stackexchange.com/questions/78048/… still accurate given meta.stackexchange.com/questions/173513/…?

Shog9

@Undo the former is the canonical list of situations in which Community will delete questions. It includes the latter.

kk, thanks

@Braiam you're right, I didn't know the Roomba was still that aggressive

user259867

Not aggressive enough. Delete all the things.

2

DD's roomba will be smarter. It'll use some quality score thing or something.

user259867

3:39 PM

Including answered questions where everything is downvoted.

@Undo actually, Shog wants to make it even more aggresive

user259867

Yeah, that post will soon be a year old, and it looks like some priorities shifted meanwhile.

@FamousBlueRaincoat ... to stars and flashy icons

:P

user259867

Yep, also to that.

user259867

E.g., there is this answer-similar-questions stuff, while the sophisticated frontpage filters are gathering dust.

user259867

3:48 PM

I wish someone edited older flags were not recorded helpful/declined to bring at least the title in line with the topic of the thread. (I would, but... no suggested edits on Meta.)

Shog9

@FamousBlueRaincoat get rep already

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28804211/1864610