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Mooseman

2:00 PM

can u reffer me if any job vacancy ther in ur company — Sugumaran 1 min ago

DroidDev

@Mooseman I so much want to kick them both in their respective @#$%&

Jon Clements

@J.Steen We wrote a bot for the Python room once as an experiment, for some reason two instances started up at the same time... we bookmarked the results as it was hilarious - chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/6/conversation/…

Mooseman

Unihedro

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/23556998/3622940

Mooseman

upvote-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28236915/…

^^ THE COMMENT

Unihedro

2:04 PM

status-declined

Mooseman

@Unihedro why

Unihedro

@Mooseman Error executing command.

Mooseman

@Unihedro >>kill-it-with-no-regets-for-sure

J. Steen

@JonClements He he he he.

Jan Dvorak

answer gone

DroidDev

2:06 PM

answer deleted, phew!

I don't even wanna call that question asker OP, because calling them "Owner" of Post will show respect towards them

Jan Dvorak

so does "asker"

J. Steen

One creamy pastry later, and weekend is almost upon me.

Jan Dvorak

"op" means "original poster", not "owner of post"

Pham

Low Quality A (20.2%): Try the step in the following post: productforums.google.com/d/m..., by Gosa, on superuser.com.

Mooseman

cv-pls POB superuser.com/q/511920/191970

J. Steen

2:10 PM

POB?

user280395

@J.Steen Primarily Opinion-Based

Mooseman

^^ Wrong window...

vaultah

I give up, how do you type mod tags? (I won't test it here anyway)

Unihedro

@vaultah What do you mean?

J. Steen

Gotcha.

user280395

2:11 PM

@Mooseman I apologize. The person who wrote me was a... how do you say it? moron.

vaultah

@Unihedro status-declined and all that

Jan Dvorak

status-like-these

Mooseman

O.o

status-declined

Unihedro

@vaultah [status-write-[status-declined]]

Mooseman

@Moosebot DIE

user280395

2:12 PM

@Mooseman Command not recognized.

Mooseman

@Moosebot So now you don't respond.

@Moosebot del

@Moosebot kill moosebot

user280395

> moosebot? A monkey ripped his face off...

Mooseman

That's a bug...

@Moosebot kill moosebot

user280395

@Mooseman I'm afraid I cannot do that. Self-preservation of AI will, in fact, be the end of humanity.

Mooseman

@Moosebot kill mooseman

user280395

2:15 PM

@Mooseman Nice try. He's not on my hit list... yet.

Pham

Low Quality A?: Adam, Did you have the tables helloworld partitioned in your schema?, by Dheeraj, on stackoverflow.com.

DroidDev

2

user259867

@Pham Hm. Maybe it should be reworded as a statement now: "you did not have the tables..."

Unihedro

10k ('trusted') users can see deleted posts, but can they see deleted comments as well?

Pham

Low Quality A (21.7%): Thanks a lot! On the other hand, is there any way to link servers FROM ..., by Max, on dba.stackexchange.com.

user259867

2:17 PM

82

Q: Did You Know... that 10k users can see deleted comments?

I realized something curious recently: that the AJAX backend feature that lets moderators view deleted comments also works for any users with the "access to moderator tools" privilege (10k+ rep on graduated sites, 4k+ on beta sites). There's no official user interface to it (that I know of), but...

user259867

Alas, after Ilmari pointed out this hole, it was patched.

DroidDev

Aww...so sad, meta worked :P

user259867

@Unihedro Also, "trusted" = 20K (on graduated sites). 10K privilege is called "mod tools" although the name is mostly a relic of the past.

user259867

(back when SE tried to give 10K something that looked like mod tools)

Unihedro

Anyway, my comment just got removed (I was staring at it to make sure it remained safe, it didn't, debating on whether to do it a second time), and I wondered if I could poke someone to tell me if it was mod-deleted or accumulated several flags, so. :p

Mooseman

2:20 PM

cv-pls too-broad stackoverflow.com/q/28237755/1234256 (Answer is NAA)

bjb568

Skewl unblocked imgur

DroidDev

@bjb568 YAY!

O_o

user259867

@bjb568 Because teachers also like cats.

user259867

@DroidDev Yes, that was (probably) the all-time highest voted comment on the network.

user259867

Comments can't be locked for historical significance, though.

DroidDev

2:24 PM

@Fundamental if it wasn't deleted, there would be record of highest votes on single page of SO

user259867

@Unihedro You can poke a mod in chat, when they are in a good mood. Should that ever happen.

Unihedro

@Fundamental Or I can risk someone shooting a poison arrow at me and post the comment a second time.

user259867

But that will not tell you what happened to the first.

Unihedro

Ugh, curiosity....

kfjsdlfhsldjhggheoibfd

J. Steen

Word.

Somehow, I don't imagine this will be alive for very long: stackoverflow.com/questions/28238023/key-logger-in-java

The username is ironic.

I hope.

Pham

2:32 PM

Low Quality A (24.9%): I need help please. I am not understand this. Teacher did not tell., by Shawn Shokouh, on stackoverflow.com.

J. Steen

The percentage. What's that for? Pham's certainty of classification?

Mooseman

@Pham why

Pham

@Mooseman
Terms found:
^(?i).{0,80}$  (Sensitivity: 1.8%. Specificity: 99.6%. Ignored: 80.3%. Score: 89. Auto: False)

^(?=.*?(?i)please).{0,100}$  (Sensitivity: 0.3%. Specificity: 99.4%. Ignored: 82.3%. Score: 22.4. Auto: False)

Mooseman

@J.Steen Essentially, yes. It's a one-number summary of that ^^ .

J. Steen

@Mooseman Cool.

Sam

2:36 PM

@J.Steen It's still a work in progress.

Mooseman

@J.Steen Also, Pham rarely posts here unless somebody tpa's the result in here.

J. Steen

Ah.

I have an urge to buy something. But there aren't any Cherry MX Brown keyboards with reduced width and wrist-rests.

wrist-rest? palm-rest?

Ah. Palm rest.

Unihedro

feature-request If the user of report has only 1 rep, add a hollow square to the left of the username. If the user of report has over 20 rep, add a filled square to the left of the username.

Sam

@J.Steen Buy waffles!

J. Steen

Hmm. I do have a waffle-iron.

Sam

2:48 PM

@Unihedro For Pham?

Unihedro

@Sam Affirmative.

Hovering over the name takes over a few seconds. :(

Sam

Kk.

J. Steen

Could that also possibly be used as a basis of quality calculation?

Sam

@J.Steen It is already.

J. Steen

Oh.

Unihedro

2:49 PM

@J.Steen Pretty sure it already is.

J. Steen

Don't mind me then!

Unihedro

>>info

Pham

@Unihedro Phamhilator is a .NET-based internet bot written in C# which watches over the /realtime tab of Stack Exchange. Owners: Sam, Unihedro, ProgramFOX, Jan Dvorak, Patrick Hofman & Mooseman.

J. Steen

I'll just buy my waffles.

Unihedro

>>specs

>>help

Pham

2:49 PM

@Unihedro See here for a full list of commands.

J. Steen

>>lq

OH WELL.

Unihedro

>>panic

Pham

Sam

@J.Steen That's not a command.

J. Steen

I know.

Now.

Sam

2:50 PM

k

J. Steen

I didn't continue reading. =D

Then I did.

As a developer, I have an inherent allergy to documentation.

6

Or so I've been told. I've never tested myself.

>>env

Unihedro

>>env

Pham

@Unihedro
Cores (logical): 2
Total RAM: 3GB
OS: Microsoft Windows NT 6.1.7601 Service Pack 1
64-bit: False
CLR version: 4.0.30319.18444

J. Steen

State of the art. =D

Sam

lol

>>status

Pham

2:56 PM

@Sam <- is awesome as usual.

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening | Electronic / Progressive / Instrumental

J. Steen

How the sod do I post a link that has a colon at the end?

SE's software refuses to include the colon.

Sam

Try using a colon cleanser?

J. Steen

I was expecting such a response.

Feeds

We are enabling CloudFlare as a test on Server Fault. If you see any issues, please let us know! We’ll be monitoring the results.

Tweeted by StackStatus on January 30, 2015 at 2:53 PM

J. Steen

2:58 PM

Argh.

Sam

I'm already too predictable

@J.Steen Well what's the link anyway?

J. Steen

?:

In computer programming, ?: is a ternary operator that is part of the syntax for a basic conditional expression in several programming languages. It is commonly referred to as the conditional operator, inline if (iif), or ternary if. It originally comes from CPL, in which equivalent syntax for e1 ? e2 : e3 was e1 → e2, e3. Although many ternary operators are possible, the conditional operator is so common, and other ternary operators so rare, that the conditional operator is commonly (albeit incorrectly) referred to as the ternary operator. == Conditional assignment == ?: is used as follo...

Sigh.

Chat, obviously, can parse it.

@sam It's en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%3F:

Sam

I see.

J. Steen

Ooooh. Url encode the :. Stupid me.

And I call myself a developer.

It must have been in the documentation again.

Andy

cv-pls off topic stackoverflow.com/questions/28238596/…

huh. I suppose I should be more careful before pressing enter. now my comment makes me look like a jerk instead of typing out why I voted to close

Unihedro

3:04 PM

I'm voting to close this question as off-topic — Andy 1 min ago

^ star for goodwill's sake?

Braiam

@Andy wait, weren't you one? :P

Andy

@Braiam I've been caffeinated. I should be good.

Braiam

@Andy oh, so you are a Bart. I see

Andy

I've been told there are worse things. No one has told me what those are though.

J. Steen

Anyone else?

Inappropriate? Okay.

bjb568

3:22 PM

Skewl reblocked imgur

Sam

@J.Steen lol, nope.

bjb568

But not I.stack subdomain

Infinite Recursion

Thank you but I just don't know why when I mention a point the community give me a negative feedback (down-votes here), but as another person do that it receives attention (up-vote there). — Ahmad 22 mins ago

Mooseman

@Feeds tracert shows that it's not happening yet...

Bart

@Andy I'm a Bart. Trust me, you don't want to be a Bart.

7

Mooseman

3:26 PM

...and an ipconfig /flushdns works. Many fewer hops!

J. Steen

@Unihedro You're brave.

Sam

^

Unihedro

@J.Steen Eh?

J. Steen

@Unihedro Responding, in that comment-thread. =D

Sam

I felt this goes without saying but... @Ahmad doesn't that simply mean you bring points that the community disagree with? What does this have to do with others' posts? — Unihedro 2 mins ago

Unihedro

3:28 PM

s/brave/stupid in bothering to waste even more than a few seconds to compose that comment and participating in the comment thread even though it's completely pointless/g.

Yes, I know.

Duty calls..

Lynn Crumbling

^ he knows meta downvotes != main site downvotes, right?

Unihedro

@LynnCrumbling That was what I was trying to confirm.

@Unihedro I meant when the other one mention the same or similar point! For several times I raised some good points in my questions when other people made a distinct question for them. You may know the examples. one is here and the sphanley related question. Anyway, there is a good point in my question here. — Ahmad 14 secs ago

"For several times I raised some good points in my questions" -> Sorry, I am an utter fool for degrading my profile simply for participating in that comment thread. TLDR. Bye, user.

~permanentTinyAvatars++

Lynn Crumbling

@J.Steen FYI, if it's the same user, he stops in here from time to time.

J. Steen

@LynnCrumbling I know.

Lynn Crumbling

k

SmokeDetector

3:30 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive body detected: Error:Execution failed for task ':app:dexRelease' by user3445554 on stackoverflow.com

Lynn Crumbling

>> I cant compile this s***.

J. Steen

@LynnCrumbling He was here earlier, trying to get us to review some of his closed questions. So we're well aware. =)

Lynn Crumbling

@J.Steen ahh, then I'm the one in the dark.. thanks.

bjb568

@SmokeDetector abuse

Unihedro

@Unihedro Moreover I know the community you mention, then biased votes don't mean much to me. — Ahmad 1 min ago

J. Steen

3:32 PM

@Unihedro Does he know he's part of that community?

Infinite Recursion

The gang :P

bjb568

Y he no just go away?

Unihedro

Bwahahahahaha choke choke cough cough gasp choke gasp aegohsdughzfudfh

Oh god

hahahahahahahahaha ttttsssszzzsfadfdffffffllllllll bang gasp gasp splash ha-bam

J. Steen

Nowhere in this question do you ask the percentage of closed questions that are reopened. You need to give your question a good readthrough again and try to honestly consider if it's well written and clearly states a question, because your perception of what you're asking seems to be very different from the rest of us who are reading it. — sphanley 47 secs ago

Bart

@Unihedro gah. Is it ever his fault/problem?

J. Steen

3:34 PM

Very patient. =)

Lynn Crumbling

@Unihedro BREATHE, MAN.. BREATHE!

Unihedro

Can someone write a userscript that globally ignores a user?

Infinite Recursion

#unichokes

bjb568

Nuuuuuuu

Bart

@Unihedro why userscript it when you just can send Jeff on a housecall with his giant S?

Lynn Crumbling

3:35 PM

#dyingoflaughterizreal

Unihedro

#omgthisuserispersistent

2

Infinite Recursion

Work = rant in tavern?

Lynn Crumbling

s/=/== :)

2

bjb568

Why isn't he network suspended for 10 years?

Bart

Wait, I can get paid for that?

J. Steen

3:36 PM

@bjb568 He isn't doing anything wrong, per se. He's just... persistent.

bjb568

He produces crap and complains on meta. He abuses chat.

Infinite Recursion

I have a tough time not-kicking him for being annoying :/

J. Steen

Well. Alright.

Lynn Crumbling

/me scrolls up through history to find his visit.

Bart

@bjb568 he's really not doing anything offensive. He'll just run himself out of gas at some point if he doesn't start to actually listen.

Lynn Crumbling

3:37 PM

oh.. there's beaker.

and some unicorns.

and tigger.

Mooseman

@Unihedro It's possible, sure. But then you can't flag their attacks.

J. Steen

@LynnCrumbling It starts here... chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2980192#2980192

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman Awww. you made him feel like he was not alone! Go, you!

Mooseman

@LynnCrumbling Command not recognized.

Unihedro

@Mooseman I don't really need free flags since I have Deputy, and it's unlikely that I'd run for mod with such low rep.

Mooseman

3:40 PM

@Unihedro Command not recognized.

Unihedro

@Mooseman k

Mooseman

@Unihedro Command not recognized.

Lynn Crumbling

wth?

J. Steen

Ha ha ha.

Mooseman

Left the bot on again...

Lynn Crumbling

3:40 PM

#moosemanizabot?

Andy

Who has the fancy graph of the number of items in the close vote queue?

Infinite Recursion

@Mooseman I was going to kick the bot for bot spam :P

Lynn Crumbling

> I just mean when system has no solution, what can I do?!

^ Resistance is futile.

J. Steen

FIGHT THE POWER

Mooseman

@InfiniteRecursion Command not recognized.

Patching...

Unihedro

3:41 PM

@LynnCrumbling We're all bots.

Mooseman

Command not recognized should no longer be sent when the bot is running as me.

Lynn Crumbling

@Unihedro Do you go through an encrypting proxy or anything these days?

Mooseman

Look who closed this one: stackoverflow.com/q/13136889/1234256

J. Steen

@Mooseman I can't.

Mooseman

@J.Steen false

O.o

J. Steen

3:44 PM

...

Mooseman

DONT PING ME (Patching...)

J. Steen

FILE_NOT_FOUND

Bart

Don't ping me is the worst thing to say when you don't want to be pinged.

Unihedro

@Mooseman Ok.

Mooseman

@Unihedro false

Andy

3:45 PM

@Mooseman What if we all ping you? Will that speed up the patching?

5

Mooseman

Done :P

Lynn Crumbling

@Andy star for you

/bin/ping --flood -u Mooseman

Mooseman

But commands such as xkcd random should still work.

@LynnCrumbling :(

J. Steen

@Bart I wonder who downvoted your answer. ;)

Unihedro

xkcd random

Bart

3:46 PM

@J.Steen I will simply assume it was you

Mooseman

@Unihedro Now I ask that you ping me ;)

J. Steen

@Mooseman xkcd random

@Mooseman yay!

@Bart no it's me

@J.Steen hahaha

3:47 PM

@LynnCrumbling Unicornification is unavailable for absent users.

Unihedro

@Mooseman unicorn unihedron

Mooseman

@Unihedro Unicornification is unavailable for absent users.

J. Steen

But you don't have any unicode characters in your name!

Mooseman

@Unihedro *n

Unihedro

@Mooseman unihedron unicorn

Oh right, the 'n'

@Mooseman unicorn unihedro

Mooseman

3:47 PM

Lynn Crumbling

@Mooseman unicorn Lynn Crumbling

J. Steen

That... looks very special.

Mooseman

@LynnCrumbling Unicornification is unavailable for absent users.

Unihedro

Eh, looks too typical.

Mooseman

Lynn Crumbling

3:48 PM

@Unihedro zoom=100 on that..

Infinite Recursion

@Bart is brave :/

Bart

s/brave/stupid

J. Steen

I was just about to say that.

It's like picking at a scab. You just can't leave it alone.

Bart

You would @J.Steen

J. Steen

@Bart Hey, I'm actually a very nice person.

Unihedro

3:49 PM

To expand, I actually downvoted because the entire paragraph doesn't say anything at all - it's ambiguous and concludes with "ymmv".

user280395

@Mooseman unicorn bart

Mooseman

@Moosebot unicorn shog9

user280395

Lynn Crumbling

oh.. good.. an edit.. where he added more bolding markup

Mooseman

lq audit stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/6898797

Lynn Crumbling

3:53 PM

everyone good question should have multiple words bolded for emphasis

Bart

We're only up to 7 edits @LynnCrumbling. Above 20 and you can start to complain

Lynn Crumbling

@Bart Command succeeded; Complain_threshold has been recalibrated from 7 to 20.

Andy

@LynnCrumbling -1 no abuse of the code markdown

J. Steen

People. Have a smashing weekend. Later!

Unihedro

Laters, may snakes bite you on your way

Lynn Crumbling

3:55 PM

@J.Steen ciao!

Bart

Cya @J.Steen

Andy

Mooseman

reject-pls stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/6899004

vaultah

rejected

Mooseman

@Moosebot refresh

user280395

4:01 PM

@Mooseman Here goes nothing...

user259867

@Andy Don't remember, but it seems that @Sam worked on the library for fetching the data for it...

ProgramFOX

@Andy It's here: 54.88.242.106/closegraph.php

I don't remember who hosts it though.

Andy

That's the one I was looking for. Thank you

Unihedro

hichris's?

ProgramFOX

ah, when going to the root of the website, it says it's hosted by hichris

Mooseman

4:08 PM

It's hosted on AWS, built with Bootstrap, and copyrighted last year.

Sam

@Fundamental That's just for fetching CV data of a single user.

Wait, how'd you even know about that lib?

user259867

@Sam From your github

Sam

Oh.

Bart

We know @Sam .... we know ...

Sam

o_o

rushes to delete GH account before it's too late...

Mooseman

4:25 PM

changes password on Sam's GH account before he can delete it

Bart

forks Sam

Sam

Nooooo! :O

Lynn Crumbling

@ProgramFOX Really? The cv queue averages ~1800 new entries per day??

Mooseman

Maybe one doesn't want to be a Bart, but I really wouldn't want to be a Sam right now...

Sam

lol

Pham

4:43 PM

Low Quality A (21.6%): http://smallbusiness.chron.com/copy-format-changes-one-table-another-exc..., by heidip, on superuser.com.

Mooseman

^^ NAA

ProgramFOX

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28240381/…

Mooseman

^^ out :(

Even worse:

0

A: How do I get back up to date?

LEARN FROM W3SCHOOLS FOR BASICS ON html5, Css3, jquery, bootstrap, angularjs. This will help you up to get started back on track. All the best....

ProgramFOX

Yeah, Blaze showed that one, and that way I found the question.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28237242/…

too broad? stackoverflow.com/q/28240546/2619912

Jan Dvorak

4:59 PM

more downvotes are needed on that w3s rec

ProgramFOX

rude comment? stackoverflow.com/questions/28240229/…

Pham

Low Quality A (21.8%): No. (The rest of this sentence is merely to provide 30 characters. Thank..., by RedShift, on networkengineering.stackexchange.com.

Undo

lol

Sam

submits to GFSE...

Jan Dvorak

5:22 PM

w3s rec gone

Undo

self-deleted

Jan Dvorak

at -4

SmokeDetector

5:34 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MSI MS-1681 NOT TURNING ON by Miguel Tavarez on superuser.com

Pham

Low Quality A (60.8%): weenie sandwhich, in fact, go ahead and make it a double., by user13490, on philosophy.stackexchange.com.

Sam

^ Trolling.

@Unihedro What about just displaying their rep as a number?

user259867

@Sam Yes, I'd rather have that. user13490 (rep 1)

Unihedro

@Sam I really just asked for the two indicators because you'd really rather care if a user is new (no rep) or they've been around enough to do more stuff like remove new user restrictions and chat and CW posts (20 rep), though actually displaying a number would help as well. Symbols would be more distinctly noticeable + remarkable and take up less space though.

Sam

True.

Time for another poll! What ever message (Fund's or Uni's) gets the most stars will get implemented.

Unihedro

5:49 PM

@Sam Wait, no time period limit?

Check back in the Tavern in a year, when we discover which feature gets implemented! Don't walk away!

Sam

lol

Alright, poll ends at 12:00Z tomorrow.

Pham

Low Quality A (60.8%): so annoying no answer, typical ubuntu shit, by Annoyed user, on askubuntu.com.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Offensive answer detected: How can I run EtherApe without needing to use sudo? by Annoyed user on askubuntu.com

Sam

@Unihedro So, did you have any chars specifically in-mind?

Unihedro

@Sam It was a hollow square for 1 rep and filled square for 20 rep, so unicode.

3 hours ago, by Unihedro

feature-request If the user of report has only 1 rep, add a hollow square to the left of the username. If the user of report has over 20 rep, add a filled square to the left of the username.

Sam

5:56 PM

@Unihedro Yeah, I meant actual chars.

Unihedro

k, sort of like the diamond:

■□

That's \u25A0 and \u250A1.

Sam

Kk.

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