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Nick Craver

1:01 PM

well, for him it will be

rene

@Fundamental Well, he could flip a switch and then demand a ransom... SE has some money to spend now...

Not that he would do such thing....

Nick Craver

I know! I'm so excited, really hope they start paying me this year

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rene

Just saying to prevent I get banned as well with a flip of a switch...

@NickCraver but... we appreciate what you do! Isn't that enough?

Bart

There, have a star @NickCraver. That should suffice when those computer thingies do the real work for you anyway.

Nick Craver

Well, they let me play with hardware soooo, it's a wash

I'm planning out next week's upgrade now, servers: 1 Git, 11 web, 1 file, 1 LogSQL, 2 redis, 2 tag engine, 1 util, 1 SAN, 1 DAS, and 2 VM blade chassis with 2 blades each

....going to be a fun week, seeing as that's the live data center :)

Bart

1:13 PM

tempted to jinx it...

Braiam

@Bart it's already jinxed

Bart

Well, let's enjoy the last week of this site then @Braiam

Mooseman

@NickCraver gl

NAA x2 magento.stackexchange.com/a/25707/17262

rene

Wonders if all that hardware is first build-up and tested outside the datacentre...

Nick Craver

fresh servers from Dell, completely unconfigured

we automate every aspect of the deploys we can - so a new web server being dropped in is nexus configuration + about an hour to build - mostly hands off

DSC for windows, Puppet for linux at this point

Mooseman

1:19 PM

PS FTW

PeterJ

Let me know if you need a hand, I've got an impressive 6RU setup right behind me (well server is just 1 RU)

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] Repeating characters in body: Archival script as well as tar untar by milan on superuser.com

rene

rollback please ^^^^

I've not enough privileges on SU

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: BITAND NA CLAUSULA WHERE by Marcos on pt.stackoverflow.com

rene

Tnx @Braiam

Mooseman

1:30 PM

NAA superuser.com/a/713182 should-be-comment

Braiam

> There are no items for you to review, matching the filter "off-topic, unclear what you're asking, too broad, primarily opinion-based; [linux]"

PeterJ

@Braiam, you may have won the battle but the war will continue

How did the smoke detector miss this, I guess the question feed misses a few things? stackoverflow.com/questions/28068737/…

Frank

1:51 PM

I'm interested in what you mean by 'The high rep community members here show a lot of loyalty', because when I look at the front page of high rep users, out of the first ten, 6 of them barely do anything on the site anymore. Out of the entire page there (36 users), 22 of them are rarely seen anymore/have left for good. Is that normal? — J. Musser 6 mins ago

And then there's me, who was gone from June 19, '12 - May 16, '14. Missed almost 2 years here. Not the best track record ever. :D — J. Musser 1 min ago

lol, wonder what Ana meant.

Sam

@PeterJ Nice to see editors doing a good job as usual.

Frank

@Sam lol, that's terrible.

I'm not gonna edit it either, for fear of getting rep.

PeterJ

@Sam, lol I see what's happened now

Sam

@Frank Ikr? And this isn't an isolated case either.

Bart

Please note THAT ALL CAPS WRITING is considered shouting, and rude. Plus, leetspeak like "plz" is lazy and childish, IMNSHO. — Jens 5 mins ago

So you leave a comment about it, but don't edit it ... sigh

Sam

1:55 PM

...

rene

@Bart asked him about that...

Bart

I predict "bla bla, learning experience, bla" @rene

Shadow Wizard

> complete. Committed users will be invited to the private beta soon.

yay!

rene

@Bart I'll give him a learning experience he never forgets...

Braiam

@rene well, since Bart is here to lend you the stick anyways...

Bart

2:00 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/28068910/…

Shadow Wizard

@Bart what's the point? It's crappy question to begin with, typical "fix my code"

ProgramFOX

@Fundamental Good idea; done.

Bart

@ShadowWizard the user did take time to edit the body of the post. And I sometimes do edit for such users as a "this is what we mean" kind of deal.

Sam

@ProgramFOX Be careful, you'll pick up FPs on SO/SF and possibly SU.

ProgramFOX

@Sam I searched; though SO search gave nothing. Do you have an example?

Shadow Wizard

2:02 PM

@Bart "don't use CAPS" sounds trivial enough even for the most... simple... users. Code formatting might be a different story indeed.

Bart

@ShadowWizard you'd be surprised

Sam

@ProgramFOX Pham's caught a few of them before from those sites. I'll see if I can find the reports...

ProgramFOX

If there are FPs indeed, I can always exclude those sites from the >>>> part.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HEART RATE MONITOR USING STM32F3 DISCOVERY KIT by sourabh shete on electronics.stackexchange.com

Sam

Oh, he caught one just now...

in Low Quality Posts HQ, 8 mins ago, by Pham

Spam Q (18%): Cannot call EntityModel from c# code-file, by Roy Coumans, on stackoverflow.com.

Undo

2:04 PM

@Fundamental You can go post a link to the room and the sites you want posted in CHQ, and I'll try to get to it today.

ProgramFOX

@Sam Let's wait to see what it gives; if there are too many FPs, I'll exclude those sites.

Sam

@ProgramFOX Sure. Just wanted to give ya a heads-up. ;)

user259867

@Sam Smokey excludes code blocks before checking the patterns, which should help with fps from such character strings.

Sam

@Fundamental Oh, right. I wasn't aware of that.

Mooseman

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/28069250/1234256 tut

rene

2:14 PM

@Bart we sort of both lost ...

Bart

I saw :D

Pham

Low Quality Q (80%): Delete this ?Delete this ?Delete this?, by rhill45, on security.stackexchange.com.

Sam

^ Shall we help him?

user259867

> Research Scientist, University Instructor, Director CMMB Core facility biology.usf.edu/cmmb/research/facility University of South Florida Tampa, Fl.

user259867

(user's profile). :-/

Mooseman

2:25 PM

2.5 hours to news.microsoft.com/windows10story

Bart

Should be able to do so himself @Sam

Mooseman

@Sam Flagged as abusive

Sam

@Bart Some people easily miss the obvious.

user259867

I'm on mobile and no delete option. I will when on pc. — rhill45 2 mins ago

user259867

The user isn't some troll; has 1600 rep on Biology

Sam

2:31 PM

@Fundamental He could've asked a mod to delete it for him, via a comment

Pham

Low Quality A (44.3%): لا يفتح العلامات على موقع الوزارة الخدمات اللكترونية, by افنان سعد موسى ابو جزر, on superuser.com.

Bart

@Fundamental Ah, I see. Well, after last night we all know that mobile first has to be developed for Windows and after that chat. So I guess a delete button can wait.

Andy

@Pham (from Arabic) Does not open the tags on the Ministry's website service launches

spam stackoverflow.com/a/28069699/189134

spam stackoverflow.com/a/28069634/189134

spam stackoverflow.com/a/28069562/189134

Frank

2:56 PM

So, shall I change my name back from Frank, or shouldn't I?

Unihedro

@Frank (rolls eyes) why not both?

Frank

@Unihedro becuz

Mooseman

2.0 hours to news.microsoft.com/windows10story

Looks like they're using socket.io... that and their min.js returned 404

rene

That means success in IIS....

user280395

I'm sure they'll mention that everything's running on Azure if the stream holds up. If it doesn't, it's on GAE.

Unihedro

3:12 PM

@Mooseman socket.io? wow, noobs

Mooseman

What's wrong with socket.io?

naa stackoverflow.com/a/12868703/1234256

Mooseman

3:30 PM

Their player supports Chromecast?

user259867

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@Fundamental Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

Mooseman

Oof. jQuery 1.7.2...

cast_sender.js was triggered by a hidden youtube player...

user259867

@SmokeDetector fpu

SmokeDetector

@Fundamental Registered question as false positive, whitelisted user and added title to Bayesian doctype 'good'.

gunr2171

4:04 PM

There is a live stream for the Windows 10 briefing starting in an hour: news.microsoft.com/windows10story

Bart

Am I the only one not getting excited about that?

gunr2171

It's good to at least be informed about it.

Mooseman

I've been running Win10 TP since day 1 in a VM.

Technical Preview wasn't exactly the best name, now, was it?

gunr2171

how is it?

Mooseman

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/240661/1234256 POB

@gunr2171 ?

gunr2171

4:12 PM

how is W10 TP?

Mooseman

microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/…

Undo

I have a bunch of invites to google.com/inbox, any takers?

Frank

nope

Mooseman

@Undo WP users such as myself can't even use them... :(

gunr2171

Already have inbox and love it (on my phone)

Bart

4:23 PM

@Undo sure

Undo

@Bart email?

gunr2171

EVERYONE AVERT YOUR EYES!

Undo

or you can just email me at undo@erwaysoftware.com

Bart

@Undo firstname.lastname @

see my profile ;)

Undo

yeah found it

gmail?

Bart

4:24 PM

yeah

Undo

done

Bart

Got it, thanks!

Undo

:D

can't believe someone hasn't come up with this way of email management yet

@NickCraver Gonna do a live hangout? I love watching those.

bjb568

Morning. Feeling a bit better, still sore throat, cough, etc

Undo

sick @bjb568?

if you have to skip school, watch and understand Khan Academy's entire economics section

Mooseman

4:29 PM

@bjb568 +1 (As opposed to the +2 you would've received if you were completely better)

bjb568

@Undo 2nd skipped skewl day

Econ sounds fun

Undo

it really is

Sal does a great job on it

bjb568

Well, that was his job

Hedge fund somethingorother

Braiam

@Undo link?

Undo

@Braiam google 'khan academy economics'

Braiam

4:30 PM

@Undo :effort: D:

Undo

fine.

lmgtfy.com/?q=khan+academy+economics

Braiam

khanacademy.org

rene

5:00 PM

@Undo you have mail...

Mooseman

5:15 PM

Is the Win10 stream not working for anybody else?

Braiam

> <source src="" type="video/mp4"><p>Video content not supported by your browser. Please use a browser with the Flash plugin enabled or HTML5 Video support.</p>

obviously it isn't going to work because src is missing :/

Bart

@Mooseman rather crappy, but it works

Mooseman

Started on PC now. Chromecast button seems to be somewhat broken though...

Braiam

> var wmvUrl = 'http://msstudios-live2.wm.llnwd.net/msstudios_live2';
var flashUrl = 'http://studioshds-f.akamaihd.net/z/Windows10_1@125504/manifest.f4m';
var flashFailUrl = 'http://mps-chan1.msstudios.cshds.lldns.net/msstudios/mps-chan1/mps-chan1.f4m';
var hlsUrl = 'http://studioshds-f.akamaihd.net/i/Windows10_1@125504/master.m3u8';
var hlsFailUrl = 'http://mps-chan1.msstudios.cshls.lldns.net/msstudios/mps-chan1/mps-chan1.m3u8';
var mp4Url = '';
var oggUrl = '';
var vttUrl = '';
var srtUrl = '';

and they want you to use flash... wtf?

bjb568

@Braiam Y U NO XHTML?

Braiam

5:21 PM

@bjb568 CUZ MS!

bjb568

:O

Undo

@rene Got it?

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: RUN BAT RECURSIVELY IN PYTHON by guru on superuser.com

ProgramFOX

@SmokeDetector ... I misread that as "Run Bart recursively".

Braiam

@ProgramFOX that's actually very dangerous, running Bart recursively I mean

jadarnel27

5:27 PM

You should run Bart exclusively.

Bart

/highfive @jadarnel27

jadarnel27

=)

Braiam

@jadarnel27 in its own thread and without any privilege >:)

Mooseman

So much buffering...

chipChocolate.py

@Mooseman - Well, that was a pretty impressive hack.

I've got that on my profile lol

Mooseman

5:40 PM

@chipChocolate.py "Stream not found." :p

jadarnel27

@Braiam Haha, indeed.

Mooseman

@chipChocolate.py Oh that :D

chipChocolate.py

I thought it would be Jon Skeet. :p

rene

5:54 PM

@Undo yep, tnx

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/3847745/1699210 rec

bummi

6:09 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/3561301/1699210

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/1408009/1699210

Bart

@Braiam but ... can I still smite?

Braiam

@Bart MAYBE

bluet

6:25 PM

I wanna be a loan shark

Bart

That would be a disappointing event: Discovery channel's Loan Shark Week

Frank

I wanna wag in the den with someone other than the bot...

bluet

@Frank bot is tougher than me

Frank

@bluet so...?

bluet

waits for bot to wear frank down some more

Frank

6:31 PM

I'm tougher than the bot.

bluet

oh yea, you're the smartest most special tree in all the 400 billion trees in the world

Frank

@bluet but, if I only play with the bot, we will tie for most words in one day.

We don't want that, do we.

Infinite Recursion

@ProgramFOX Recursion :D

ProgramFOX

:D

euphoria overlord

What if we could have a rep loan shark in SE

Just imagine, new users slowly spiraling into rep debt after taking out a huge rep loan, spending years just trying repay tidbits, only for the rep sharks to aggressively hound the users for their rep, trashing their profile pages, downvoting without impunity.

And just when it seems like things can't get worse, the repcession hits, and all of a sudden users find they need to pay even more rep to these greedy savage rep dealers, as if caught in a Sisyphean game of rep

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Mooseman

6:47 PM

holograms

Bart

@euphoriaoverlord didn't you just describe Stack Overflow?

bluet

#repcession

euphoria overlord

@bluet rep in piece ;(

So do any real SO valued employees lurk on here

Bart

Employees, sure. Valued ... But yeah, on occasion

euphoria overlord

Or is this room just full of AIs trying to make conversation as a part of SE's new projects

Bart

6:53 PM

Beep boop

Frank

@euphoriaoverlord affirmative

euphoria overlord

That $40 million has to go somewhere! Beep!

Frank

(explodes)

oops

(reboots)

MUAHAHAHAHA

I'm bored

Mooseman

Who else thinks Google killed Glass because of Windows Holographic?

Bart

euphoria overlord

6:55 PM

@Mooseman Once you go holograph you can never go glass

Frank

Mooseman

@Frank WHAT HAVE YOU DONE?

euphoria overlord

14

Q: Questions on the Related/Linked Sidebar do not reflect an answered/unanswered state

From here, notice how the sidebars for these three sites are a tad different, notably, Math.SE. I'm not sure if it's just me, but Math.SE clearly shows whether or not a question has been accepted or not in the sidebar. I decided to have a gander at the other sites, because I wasn't sure if i...

So I've been trying to draw attention on this massive bug invading the site making it literally unusable

Frank

@Mooseman :D

Bart

@euphoriaoverlord attention drawn

Infinite Recursion

7:00 PM

^

euphoria overlord

@Bart Thanks, but I don't think it'll be of much help

I posted a bounty earlier and the viewcount went up by 9 during the duration of a week

Bart

We'll see. Can't do much else with my rep anyway

bluet

@Mooseman never heard of that

euphoria overlord

I got cybernet points but I'd rather have a fixed issue then points

But thank you though, that's really awesome of you

Mooseman

@bluet news.microsoft.com/windows10story

bluet

7:01 PM

@Bart hate speech @inf

Bart

@euphoriaoverlord worst case we can ping an employee, but let's wait for a while.

euphoria overlord

@Bart If I wait another year, can I have a two-year anniversary celebration of the question that has never been seen by an employee?

Bart

@euphoriaoverlord if that happens, I'll get a cake and eat it in your honour

Infinite Recursion

@bluet You seem upset, you need a hug

Bart

hugs @bluet ... there there

euphoria overlord

7:03 PM

@Bart wait another year, I'll celebrate your 3 year anniversary

40

Q: Meta duplicates don't require an answer. Don't suggest there is one when that's not true

This request was sparked by this particular question. The vote to close as a duplicate on Meta, in contrast to the main site, does not require for the duplicate to have an answer. Yet, the closure message still says This question has been asked before and already has an answer. even when t...

feature-request vote-to-close exact-duplicates meta

Bart

:D

Hey, at least we had hats, so the priorities are still correct

Infinite Recursion

wants to clear a few stars from the star wall ... Bart's socks seem to be active today

Bart

@InfiniteRecursion you can't handle my awesomeness

Braiam

@Bart s/awesomeness/success/

Infinite Recursion

@Bart s/awesomeness/sock collection/

bluet

7:11 PM

0

A: How can i implement textbox auto suggest using jquery in my c# asp.net application?

The above link on jQuery and UI Automcomplete work with ASP.NET redirects me to a spam site. Please remove this link ASAP!!

euphoria overlord

@InfiniteRecursion you can't handle my awesomeness

I am 100% not a sock puppet. Guaranteed. Or your rep back in the first 30 days.

Infinite Recursion

^ Should I kick the sock?

Bart

Be careful @euphoriaoverlord, the duck regularly kicks kittens

Shog9

socks are made for kicking

2

Braiam

@Shog9 stop reading my mind... ¬_¬ puts tinfoil hat

Infinite Recursion

7:14 PM

tempted...

Bart

Don't lie @Braiam. You've been wearing that hat for quite a while now

Braiam

@Bart picture or it never happened >:)

euphoria overlord

@Shog9 I am drawing attention to my question by pinging you. Is this okay @Shog9? I hope it is @Shog9

Bart

It was nice knowing you

5

Infinite Recursion

lol

Braiam

7:18 PM

hides in its bunker

Mooseman

Has anybody else been watching the Windows 10 event?

Infinite Recursion

No

Bart

@Mooseman turned it off after a while. Bad presenters, nothing amazing. Unless I missed something.

Mooseman

@Bart You missed Windows Holographic

Braiam

I will wait for the written article

Bart

7:20 PM

@Braiam the book was better

bluet

speaking of written articles, where is the blog post about the most recent podcast?

Jon Ericson

@bluet It usually takes a week or two to edit the podcast.

Mooseman

Win10 will be 100% free for Win7/8 users.

bluet

!!/alive?

SmokeDetector

@bluet ... did I miss something?

bluet

7:23 PM

you missed this stackoverflow.com/questions/28075139/fancybox-full-width

euphoria overlord

Kicked from the tavern? Is this real life?!!!!

Mooseman

7 mins ago, by euphoria overlord

@Shog9 I am drawing attention to my question by pinging you. Is this okay @Shog9? I hope it is @Shog9

Andy

@euphoriaoverlord Nope. Just a fantasy.

Mooseman

^^ You brought it upon yourself...

ProgramFOX

!!/reboot

SmokeDetector

7:24 PM

Goodbye, cruel world

euphoria overlord

I get kicked from all the taverns I ever go to

this tastes just like deja vu

ProgramFOX

@bluet ^ I rebooted.

bluet

@Mooseman will ie6 be free too?

Frank

Now the den is empty and boring :/

euphoria overlord

Why can't we have separate chat rooms for Meta.SE with really cool names that would almost make it seem like a mansion of chat rooms

Mooseman

7:27 PM

@bluet Yes

euphoria overlord

"The Foyer", "The Lobby", "The Guesthouse", "The Place Where Hercules Poirot Solved a Murder" and so forth

bjb568

Hallo. econ is fun.

Mooseman

The rumors about Spartan were rather accurate, but no word on whether or not IE will stay for legacy purposes.

wb bjb

bluet

@euphoriaoverlord you can make your own rooms and even invite people to them

Bart

hallo @bjb568

Frank

7:28 PM

@bjb568 dude

Mooseman

approve-pls stackoverflow.com/tags/internet-explorer/synonyms

rene

@Mooseman Nobody will be able to approve those. Who on earth has enough rep in Internet-Explorer tags? When we handled those in the close vote room most of them were migrated to superuser.com ...

Braiam

@rene bobince do

rene

@Braiam Ok, you win, one user...

Braiam

@rene sorry, I was born with the --pedantic flag

bjb568

7:40 PM

0

Q: Custom off-topic reasons sound defensive, not concrete

I think this question may be off-topic because This is the new custom off-topic reason text. As mentioned here, this is weak and defensive. The "I think" part is redundant since the comment is already signed by the user. I propose this: This question is off-topic because It is much st...