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Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
6:00 PM
here, give me your email and I'll email you about your undefined variable error... :P
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
Irrelevant because before I would have committed such code NetBeans would have flagged those lines as warnings :-)
@TylerChacha Don't forget who you're talking to. I am an undefined variable error!
;-)
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
no .. you are an exception that no buddy has cared to try to catch.. :P
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
Actually an undefined variable error is just one of my many children. I send them off into the world, go forth and make programmers miserable!
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
Sounds like the creator of Java...
 
Wes
Wes
hihall
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
6:02 PM
@TheUnhandledException Hahah. ;) Yeah, I figured that I'd mention it before you started getting yourself in too deep, since XSLT can get kind of lengthy... (though to be fair that's actually a "compiled" Schematron file which is used to validate another XML file, but nevertheless)
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
LOL
@TimStone Thanks. XLST wasn't a requirement, just a brainstorm. The requirement is making the client happy within her (probably miniscule) budget ;-)
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
why can't clients have gigantic budgets?
 
Wes
Wes
@PopularDemand Syntatically valid html isn't synthacilly valid XML under any circumstance. XHTML works by treating html as invalid.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
I think that file is 8800+ lines the way it's formatted, heh. Oh those clients.. ;)
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@TylerChacha Tell me about it
 
Wes
Wes
6:05 PM
Yeah XSLT can be very verbose.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
Anyway since this place only serves bar food I'm off to find some real food. probably from my kitchen since I have no vehicle =b I'll catch you guys later
@Tyler you might want to hire a chef for this tavern ;-)
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Hahah, see ya.
 
Wes
Wes
cya
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
@TheUnhandledException We have a chef?
 
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The Unhandled Exception
@TylerChacha That explains the poor quality of the food! I reccomend cooking.SE as a good place to look ;-)
 
Wes
Wes
6:07 PM
apparently virtual icecream and everything
 
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Popular Demand
@Wes Okay... so?
 
Wes
Wes
Sorry missed the begining of that. Just signed in and read back a bit. Seemed to be implying it was.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
I'll be back this afternoon. Anyone with ideas feel free to contact me off-list so to speak. josh.gitlin.name
 
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Popular Demand
@Wes Ah. Sorry if I was unclear/misleading.
I was actually trying to make the point that it wasn't creating HTML in the way you might otherwise think of "creating HTML."
Back to work....
 
calavera
calavera
@GeorgeStocker @GeorgeStocker I made this just for you: oitotheworld.net/misc/img/jimmy_wales_looks_like_a_hobo_1.jpg
 
Wes
Wes
6:12 PM
@PopularDemand yeah read more now got a better grasp.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
Someone needs to write a greasemonkey script that adds a giant picture of Wales to every website
 
calavera
calavera
there's a google chrome extension that does exactly that
 
Fosco
Fosco
@TheUnhandledException Hi. I am now, was in meetings.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@calavera Nice
Oh. I tried to tell people on IRC about it only to discover apparently they already told me like a week ago. That went full circle
 
Wes
Wes
@TheUnhandledException I know your gone at the moment. I'm pretty sure that this should be pretty trivial in java if you want me to take a shot if @TimStone is too busy
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
6:27 PM
@TimStone @TimStone @TimStone!!
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff @RebeccaChernoff @RebeccaChernoff!!
Yes? :P
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@RebeccaChernoff @Rebecca @Chernoff @rchern?
@!@&#^!&*@#^
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
@TimStone so this special vendor...
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
gets popcorn
This should be a good story. ;)
 
mootinator
mootinator
@RebeccaChernoff Good afternoon.
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
6:29 PM
I get a call from our support desk, asking if I can send a ' in the sso string and he mentions a John O'Irish name. So, I try the sso as this dude and guess what I see...
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
What?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Microsoft OLE DB Provider for ODBC Drivers error '80004005'

[Oracle][ODBC][Ora]ORA-01756: quoted string not properly terminated
 
Wes
Wes
injection city
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Hahahah, no way.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
/set display_name Michael Mrozek'; DROP TABLE EVERYTHING_RCHERN_CARES_ABOUT; --
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
6:31 PM
Seriously.
 
Wes
Wes
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@Wes Just paste the xkcd link directly
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
@Wes Yeah, I already gave that link to the support desk guy that I talked to
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff Just a few more weeks, right? ;)
 
Wes
Wes
@MichaelMrozek thanks I didn't know that
is there special cases written for xkcd
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
6:32 PM
@TimStone Haha. I told the support desk guy that if I wanted to I could probably completely screw up their databases. He said "hey don't get any ideas just because you're leaving..."
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
4
A: What links and sites are handled specially in chat?

Juha SyrjäläThe current list of integrated (we call this onebox, or oneboxing, ala search engines) sites is: Stack Exchange Questions Stack Exchange Answers Stack Exchange Users Stack Exchange Chat Messages Stack Exchange Chat Rooms (though not really pretty yet) Amazon Twitter Wikipedia XKCD YouTube Githu...

 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff Heheh, nice
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
I thought you would enjoy that little story. (;
 
Wes
Wes
@MichaelMrozek okay thanks for the education. I guess I should go through the meta questions tagged chat
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff I did, I did. Although it's a shame really. Had you known that there were such gaping holes in their system, you could have just exploited them and made the changes necessary to avoid that whole headache to begin with. ;)
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
6:37 PM
@Wes The faq explains most of it too
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
6:50 PM
hello
oy
 
balpha
balpha
@rchern on the plus site: If they want you to write down everything you know, it might be enough to just scrape the 829 xkcd tooltips
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Heh. This is a 3rd party vendor that has done this. Not my company that needs someone else to be me. (;
Also, I am not @rchern! hides
 
balpha
balpha
sorry about that, @rchern
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
hows it going @rchern?
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
grumbles
 
Tyler Chacha
Tyler Chacha
6:54 PM
err. How's it going @RebeccaChernoff
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@RebeccaChernoff At least you aren't getting ping-spam ;)
 
Zypher
Zypher
@balpha you need to make it so that both @rchern and @RebeccaChernoff ping rchern
 
Rebecca Chernoff
Rebecca Chernoff
Feature Request!
blah, meeting time. ):
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@balpha you need to make it so that any activity whatsoever pings rchern.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
7:09 PM
shells out another up vote to @PopularDemand
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@TimStone I thought we decided not to upvote him anymore
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@MichaelMrozek I know, but someone needs to start asking his MSO questions for him so that can become a reality.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
New plan -- you repost verbatim everything @PopularDemand says on MSO, and I'll upvote your post and downvote his
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
That....doesn't sound like a bad idea. ;)
 
Fosco
Fosco
@MichaelMrozek Imagine how evil you could be if you really disliked someone.
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
7:14 PM
@MichaelMrozek Don't forget to close my questions as dupes of Tim's.
And then delete them after two days oh wait you can't
 
Wes
Wes
Actually that might be useful to be able to get pinged when someone mentions an arbitary word like star
if you were into stars
Ahh timeouts again. I sense a support call coming on.
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@Wes Timeouts?
Chat-related? SE-related?
 
Wes
Wes
my broswer times out. Says retry
But more worringly my employers main client is on the same isp
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@Wes @Fosco @Tim I was shafted, we're not doing this project at all
 
Wes
Wes
Chat yup but everything else too
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
7:19 PM
Thanks anyway guys!
 
Wes
Wes
@TheUnhandledException do you ever catch a break?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@TheUnhandledException Well, is that a bad thing? :P
 
Wes
Wes
Feck it I've only one week left.
 
Fosco
Fosco
@TheUnhandledException What project?
 
Moshe
Moshe
@TheUnhandledException - what project? Btw, check out that php project we were discussing. The login logout has NOT been done, but Im almost done with the insanely cool footer.
Bitachon.org
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
7:22 PM
@Wes No, I don't! =b
 
Moshe
Moshe
Powered by jquery!
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@Moshe We would have shunned you right out of the room if it wasn't.
 
Michael Mrozek
Michael Mrozek
@PopularDemand Low blow
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@TimStone Nah, I was told that if she wants this done a much more efficient use of her time would be to hire an intern to enter the data for her, and she was told that before and she said she didn't have any money, so she was playing with me potentially, trying to get me to agree to build it for free
@Fosco and @Moshe a customer wanted to import CSv data into our system, we only have XML import
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@MichaelMrozek Hey, I only thought "what would Michael Mrozek say if he were in my shoes?" and went with it.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
7:24 PM
Ah yeah, I figured it might have been something like that then. One less thing to worry about, at any rate. :)
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
1 hour ago, by The Unhandled Exception
Anyone here know anything about XLST, and might be interested in a small job? It's not definite, I haven't approved the project with my boss nor have we even approached the client with it, but I know nothing about XLST and want to present a plan to our CEO, to see if he's interested in offering it to the client.
 
Fosco
Fosco
@TheUnhandledException piece of cake.. but it's cancelled now?
 
radp
radp
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
That was the start of it
 
Wes
Wes
@Moshe I don't see a footer
 
radp
radp
7:24 PM
↑ ?
@TheUnhandledException I think I've seen that house already, what is it..?
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@Fosco well it was never official, I was hoping to present a plan to our CEO but he said we're not taking that on right now.
@radp Let me think. I know that place
 
Moshe
Moshe
Hang on
@Wes sorry wrong link
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@radp Gibson House?
 
Moshe
Moshe
Bitachon.org/new
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
Even though I have no idea what that means.
 
balpha
balpha
7:26 PM
@radp reminds me of Forrest Gump
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@PopularDemand Yeah, I think that's it :-)
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@TheUnhandledException What's its significance?
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
I am mistaken, I do not know that place, LOL
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
All I could find was the name, with no context.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@PopularDemand Is this quiz Josh day? ;-)
3
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
7:28 PM
@TheUnhandledException What is the capital of Mauritius?
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@PopularDemand Is this an open-book test? :-)
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
No, and it's timed.
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@radp Why were you asking about that house?
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
Yeah @radp? And why does it remind me of some place here in North Carolina that I can't remember...?
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
Okay, got sick of waiting, went to Wikipedia:
Gibson Mansion
The Gibson Mansion (also known as the Yolo County Historical Museum and the Gibson Museum) is a historic mansion that now serves as a museum in Woodland, California. In several styles, including Georgian Revival and Neoclassical, it is listed in the National Register of Historic Places. History William Byas Gibson moved from Virginia to Yolo County (at this point, just outside of Woodland) in 1850 and began to farm and raise livestock. In 1857, he purchased of land south of Woodland with a small home on the property, which would later be the center of his estate. As his family grew and...
 
Moshe
Moshe
7:32 PM
@Wes bitachon.org/new has the footer. A work in progress it is.
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
Its primary claim to fame seems to be that it's on the National Register of Historic Places. Not sure how it got on the register in the first place.
 
radp
radp
@PopularDemand That was it, thank you.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@PopularDemand By claiming to be all historic
I am still unsure of it's significance / relevance?
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
It's from 1850?
And happened to be big enough to put other stuff from 1850 in, museum-style.
I think that's about it. :P
 
Moshe
Moshe
@TheUnhabdledException my dad wrote a SAS program for my Camp CD project to convert an Excel spreadsheet from CSV to XML.
Took ten minutes
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
7:38 PM
Nice
A specific XML format or did he make one up?
 
Moshe
Moshe
I made it up.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@radp I've seen this house before... what is it?
 
Moshe
Moshe
Flash took it in about four lines
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
Hahah
 
Moshe
Moshe
7:39 PM
Okay, gotta go shopping. Good shabbos.
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@Moshe Thanks to you, Shalom!
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@TheUnhandledException Biltmore House.
 
radp
radp
14 mins ago, by Popular Demand
@radp Gibson House?
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
@PopularDemand Sure is. It's amazing, ever been there?
 
user152426
user152426
7:41 PM
back for more
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
@TheUnhandledException No, but it was really confusing the first time I heard of it, because I had just been talking to someone about Baltimore.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
haha
 
radp
radp
 
user152426
user152426
why is Wikileaks so slow to release a lot of this stuff, particularly when there is so much increased pressure to take assange and wikileaks down
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
@user152426 So they can squeeze donations out of people, heh.
I really hope that Assange gets arrested and I never have to hear about him again. I don't disagree with the principle of Wikileaks itself, but I'm thoroughly unconvinced that Assange himself is anything more than a complete tool..
 
Fosco
Fosco
7:51 PM
^^ dislike.
@user152426 I do wish they'd release quicker.. only 700 of 250k cables are out..
if they take assange out, everything's going to get released immediately.
 
Moshe
Moshe
Quick shopping trip, that was. Anyhoo.
@Wes, you there?
I was on my iPhone.iPad, with a poor connection.
@TheUnhandledException - What PHP method do I use to sanitize form input?
I'm running a simple AJAX call.
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
importJQuery($.sanitizeFormInput())
 
Moshe
Moshe
@PopularDemand - Seriously. I am using jQuery though...
How would that work? I could theoretically do it there too...
 
Tim Stone
Tim Stone
0
Q: Java Heap Space Exception, with big ammount of data, any solution ??

ErVeYHello guys I've a litle big problem with java heap memory I'm trying to migrate from oracle database 11g to access file 2007 This is not a problem below 65.000 records, now from there... The aplication is throwing java heap exception, the memory consumption is raising over 600m and the CPU usag...

java oracle ms-access heap
> ...I'm trying to migrate from oracle database 11g to access file 2007
Say wha?
 
Moshe
Moshe
Seems like the OP is out of breath.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
8:04 PM
@Moshe I'll respond in a moment, fixing an urgent issue
 
Moshe
Moshe
@TheUnhandledException - Thanks.
 
Wes
Wes
@Moshe sorry I've been timedout since the picture of the house
 
Moshe
Moshe
@Wes - s'all good. I gave you the wrong URL. It should be: bitachon.org/new
 
Fosco
Fosco
@Moshe can use a few things... one being mysql_real_escape_string()
 
Wes
Wes
Pinging google.com [74.125.230.84] with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 74.125.230.84: bytes=32 time=113ms TTL=54
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
Request timed out.
 
Moshe
Moshe
8:10 PM
@Fosco - Can I rely on that method for name and address?
Well, I guess theoretically, the user doesn't care what the boxes are labelled if they want to inject something. They are just going straight into a mail function.
 
Fosco
Fosco
@Moshe I do. (for database entry)
 
Moshe
Moshe
@Fosco - Thanks then.
 
Wes
Wes
@Moshe pretty cool.
 
Moshe
Moshe
@Wes - thanks.
I plan on changing it up, and the mail thing hasn't been implemented yet.
But, thank you.
Looks like @Wes timed out again.
Time to get a USB internet stick from a local phone company...
Okay, next problem.
@Fosco - one more quick question:
The following code is returning a string with empty placeholder strings, instead of the actual variables.
<?php if(isset($_POST['name']) && isset($_POST['street']) && isset($_POST['city']) && isset($_POST['state']) && isset($_POST['zip'])){

$name = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['name']);
$street = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['street']);
$city = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['city']);
$state = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['state']);
$zip = mysql_real_escape_string($_POST['zip']);

//send the email
echo "Your request has been sent. Please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery to: <br />" . $name . ", at: <br />" . $street ." <br />" . $city . ", " . $state . " " . $zip."";
 
Fosco
Fosco
so you're getting the echo from the first part of the if ?
 
Moshe
Moshe
8:20 PM
Yes,
It's returning the string with empty values for $name, $street etc...
 
Popular Demand
Popular Demand
1
A: Can't vote, view total votes, star and accept anymore

Rejoice rejoice kbd is backCtrl + F5 shall fix it. Did I mention <kbd> is back?

 
Moshe
Moshe
@Fosco - yep.
 
Fosco
Fosco
@Moshe interesting... do you use mysql? just wondering if the extension is installed.
 
Moshe
Moshe
Yes, it is installed.
 
Fosco
Fosco
can you var_dump($_POST) and see the values?
 
Moshe
Moshe
8:22 PM
lemme see.
Odd, i got this, when submitting a blank form:
array(5) { ["name"]=> string(0) "" ["street"]=> string(0) "" ["city"]=> string(0) "" ["state"]=> string(0) "" ["zip"]=> string(0) "" }
It's in the first if block, after the commented-out echo
(well, the echo which I commented out.)
 
Fosco
Fosco
see, they are set, just empty.
 
Moshe
Moshe
oh, so I have to make sure that they're not empty...
 
Fosco
Fosco
you want to use isset($_POST['name']) && $_POST['name'] != ''
 
Moshe
Moshe
How so?
For all of them. Okay, let me try.
Ah
 
Fosco
Fosco
if you do that a lot and for a lot of fields, you can make a function to simplify.
 
Moshe
Moshe
8:26 PM
I have a bunch of fields.
so i assume I should look through the post array and check each one, yes?
 
Fosco
Fosco
function checkReq($name) { if (isset($_POST[$name]) && $_POST[$name] != '') return true; return false; }
then you can just checkReq('name');
 
Moshe
Moshe
ah, okay
if(checkReq($_POST['name'] && ) && checkReq($_POST['street'])){ echo"thanks..."}
like that?
 
Fosco
Fosco
if (checkReq('name') && checkReq('street')) {
etc
since the $_POST stuff was in the function
 
balpha
balpha
 
Fosco
Fosco
(and it would cause the unset warning if you didn't)
 
Moshe
Moshe
8:30 PM
Cool
Thanks, @Fosco
I am not sure if that fixes the sanitization thing, but let's see...
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
sorry @Moshe, I need to fix this issue, does @Fosco have you covered?
 
Wes
Wes
finally back
 
Moshe
Moshe
@TheUnhandledException - Yea, I think so. Thanks. Good luck.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
good man @Fosco :-) I'll be back when I can break free
 
Moshe
Moshe
@Fosco - The mysql function seems to be breaking it...
Not sure why.
var_dump($_POST); at the start of the script shows the information I entered.
After the sanitization, var_dump($_POST); shows those empty variables.
I need a different sanitizer, i think.
@Fosco - phpinfo() confirms MySQL 5.0x is installed.
@Fosco - Got it, I had a mistake in my original code.
Was passing $_POST['name'] to checkReq, instead of 'name'.
Thanks.
The mysql_real_escape_string() breaks things, but I'm using htmlspecialchars for now. Have a great weekend all.
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
8:56 PM
...I don't believe it. I really don't believe it. Things really do just keep getting worse for me! I swear I must be cursed or something, lol
One of our new customers just got an order placed on her new site using our eCommerce system and somehow the system lost all the items. WTF? Why? Why???
 
Fosco
Fosco
:(
 
The Unhandled Exception
The Unhandled Exception
We have a lot of other customers, nobody's reported such issues. I swear the rates of these strange happenings is making me suspect some foul presence =b
Of course, I cannot reproduce the issue
 
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