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animuson

3:00 PM

Unless his feet smell. Then that lucky sock.

Shadow Wizard

I'm sure his feet don't smell.

SPArchaeologist

@animuson @ShadowWizard We don't have a Mort hat, so no need to try...

Shadow Wizard

@SPArchaeologist who knows? There's always a chance for a secret secret hat ;)

animuson

3:17 PM

Oh yay, another day closer to becoming Legendary.

SPArchaeologist

@ShadowWizard ye hope

There is only one missing secret hat, and it should be personally awarded by Benny on Christmas eve to Sugarcube users.

Mooseman is eating pizza

offensive stackoverflow.com/a/27549911/1234256

naa stackoverflow.com/questions/24078249/…

naa stackoverflow.com/a/23685223/1234256

Shadow Wizard

3:33 PM

@SPArchaeologist Benny is SE employee?

Jan Dvorak

Is Benny a sock?

Mooseman is eating pizza

spam stackoverflow.com/a/27549005/1234256

bluefeet

@Moosemaniseatingpizza not spam

bad answer

Shadow Wizard

Benny MCSA Office365 ♦, Malmö, Sweden

8.4k 5 22 65

heh, no hat in onebox

Jan Dvorak

gone anyways

Mooseman is eating pizza

3:34 PM

@bluefeet NAA next time.

rene

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/27550226/…

Mooseman is eating pizza

cv-pls tool stackoverflow.com/q/2990819/1234256

Shadow Wizard

close fest?

bluefeet

@Moosemaniseatingpizza I won't handle those NAA on that question but they are answers based on the question that was asked

the problem is the question not those answers

Mooseman is eating pizza

@ShadowWizard I'm on the 10k tools page of new answers to old questions. Up to 25 NAA's in past ~10 mins.

@bluefeet I didn't NAA them all bc I figured you might say that.

SPArchaeologist

3:39 PM

@ShadowWizard I still prefer the version I made for last year bash

Mooseman is eating pizza

cv-pls tool stackoverflow.com/q/12237759/1234256

Unihedro

@Moosemaniseatingpizza Only use NAA on posts that aren't answers. Links aren't a magical "this isn't an answer" fast-path.

SPArchaeologist

^ also know as Princess Benny Sparkle

Mooseman is eating pizza

review-request stackoverflow.com/a/27550291/1234256

@Unihedro This is NAA, right? And this?

Unihedro

@Moosemaniseatingpizza LQ

@Moosemaniseatingpizza You got it!

Mooseman is eating pizza

3:44 PM

cv-pls tool stackoverflow.com/q/9696357/1234256

Unihedro

The first answer added information that wasn't asked for, while it's helpful it's at most a comment, therefore flag worthy. The second one simply sucks.

Mooseman is eating pizza

review-request stackoverflow.com/a/27548366/1234256

is-this-spam-or-naa stackoverflow.com/a/27549936/1234256

bummi

@bluefeet I thought I'm the only one with this view

bluefeet

@bummi no, there are many people who view the question as the problem for bad answers

bummi

@Moosemaniseatingpizza NAA

bluefeet

3:50 PM

@Moosemaniseatingpizza are they selling something via the link or telling you to buy gucci bags? No, then it's not spam

bummi

@Moosemaniseatingpizza he posted lots of this answers someone might find duplicates

Mooseman is eating pizza

@bluefeet Not commercial, no. But the spam flag reason says "promotional", which I'd say this is.

bluefeet

@Moosemaniseatingpizza nope, sorry it isn't

Mooseman is eating pizza

@bluefeet gtk

Jan Dvorak

@Moosemaniseatingpizza how many of his answers promote his blog?

Mooseman is eating pizza

3:54 PM

@JanDvorak From the handful (~20) I checked, no others. This is bad though (VLQ or NAA?)

ElfSlice

Today's Listening | Dubstep / Drumstep

:P

bummi

@Moosemaniseatingpizza OTHER

bluefeet

@bummi Why do you think other?

Mooseman is eating pizza

@bummi Should we be using custom-reason flags when unneeded?

bummi

I had some declines or disputed on cases like this (some worked with spam too, longer ago)

bluefeet

3:58 PM

that should not be an other, mods don't need to be involved with that answer

Mooseman is eating pizza

review-request stackoverflow.com/a/27547241/1234256

@bluefeet That's why I use NAA so much...

bummi

@bluefeet I was thinking about one (higer rep) user posting many answers referring his blog/site etcc.

bluefeet

@bummi if you see a user repeatedly posting the same link then that is a different story. But for a single link to a blog, mods don't need to be involved

bummi

@bluefeet that's clear, I was on deciding to flag for spam or other in cases of frequent linking

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/2115179/1699210 rec

Unihedro

4:19 PM

Must... get... naruto hat \ _ /

SPArchaeologist

@Unihedro must... have... Twilight... hat.

Lynn Crumbling

@Unihedro (puts on a naruto hat to show off)

Unihedro

asdfghjkl

Lynn Crumbling

ha

SPArchaeologist

still prefer the tardis

Lynn Crumbling

4:26 PM

^ this.

Unihedro

Why are the hats to hard to get? Especially "Not a cherry"...

Infinite Recursion

Nice hat @LynnCrumbling \o/

Lynn Crumbling

@InfiniteRecursion The F&L hat?

Or Naruto?

Seems to have just updated to the other one.

Infinite Recursion

Naruto

Lynn Crumbling

@InfiniteRecursion We can make sure @Unihedro never gets one, by upvoting all of his answers as soon as he posts them! :)

TGMCians

4:36 PM

o/

Lynn Crumbling

\o

Unihedro

Well, then I just need to post 40 * (number of people in your troll voting ring) + 1 answer.

\o/

And guess what, there are about 12000 new regex questions every day, so you're not going to succeed when I try for it. :P

Infinite Recursion

Sure @LynnCrumbling, we are evil :D

Lynn Crumbling

I'm bummed that each site can't have separate parameters for defining size/layout of a hat. I have separate avatars, but the layout definition seems to be network-wide.

Unihedro

No "wear only on this site"?

Lynn Crumbling

4:39 PM

@Unihedro When you use the controls to adjust the zoom/tilt/positioning, that appears to take effect everywhere :-/

Hobo Sapiens

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/27551448/1864610 Too broad, opinion-based, product request, unclear, whatever...

Unihedro

To wheel of blame!

Infinite Recursion

You need to take inspiration from Bart, he has a different avatar on every site, but all his hats are perfectly aligned

yesterday, by Bart

FYI @InfiniteRecursion, all my avatars on all sites are different.

The Guy with The Elf Hat

@InfiniteRecursion I checked, and his avatars looked the same across all sites.

Infinite Recursion

yesterday, by Bart

They are all different pairs of glasses @Braiam. Granted, all the same model, but still. I can't believe you all haven't noticed ...

Unihedro

4:45 PM

@TheGuywithTheElfHat Bart's avatars are not only all different, but even more different than when Google and Yahoo changes their logos. Google moved a character by two pixels, Yahoo moved their exclamation mark by three pixels, Bart changed the glasses model by a grand FOUR PIXELS!

SPArchaeologist

@InfiniteRecursion mine are to. If you look at it, you will see that the Doctor photos were all taken in different ages.

The Guy with The Elf Hat

@Unihedro Four pixels!? No way!

Unihedro

No spam on Drupal? Come on now, I just need one more helpful flag for Marshal, and now the spammers rest...

Infinite Recursion

Ben Collins has a new avatar, the cute tiger is gone.

The Guy with The Elf Hat

Those spammers are so inconsiderate.

Unihedro

4:50 PM

flags all the comments

SPArchaeologist

@TheGuywithTheElfHat yes. They stopped just before I got the fifth spam message downvoted and deleted

Infinite Recursion

@TGMCians I told you cats can't handle hats ... look at bjb's hat, poor cat is getting crushed under his hat

If the cat doesn't survive winter bash, blame @TGMCians :P

The Guy with The Elf Hat

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Unihedro

@TheGuywithTheElfHat Except the posts from Taverners'. Those posts must not be flagged...

bummi

@Unihedro except the hat posts

TGMCians

4:58 PM

@InfiniteRecursion :D not me. it is still good here meta.stackexchange.com/a/244013/244382 . bjb wore wrong hat.. you should have suggested to bjb. :p

Infinite Recursion

5:10 PM

yesterday, by Infinite Recursion

Look at your hat @bjb568. It's all over your face.

^ that was his previous hat

yesterday, by Infinite Recursion

Your hat is still all over your face @bjb

^ his waffle hat

bummi

what do you think about this one? stackoverflow.com/a/27551600/1699210 , same link like this deleted one stackoverflow.com/a/27548694/1699210

Infinite Recursion

that cat is hopeless with hats

bjb568

:D

TGMCians

@InfiniteRecursion :D I see

Jan Dvorak

Maybe we could say the cat is in the hat?

TGMCians

5:20 PM

my hat is looking good, isn't it ?

will do

yes @TGMCians :)

thanks @inf :)

I am on my ~~boat~~ hat

APerson

Is there an already-existing feature request for showing what % of the time your review agrees with the "consensus" for the post?

TGMCians

5:30 PM

@InfiniteRecursion yeah, nice looking :)

Infinite Recursion

5:43 PM

Thanks :)

53

A: Where is my box of Stack Overflow swag?

We had a baby. A month earlier than expected, my wife had a baby, and that's why it's late. As the resident 'lord of the swag', certain things collect and ping in documents that only send me alerts, thus a whole lot of stuff didn't happen while we spent nearly 45 days in the neonatal ICU waiting ...

Congratulations @TimPost :)

bluefeet

liar @InfiniteRecursion

Going to a chat room is optional. It's fine if the users didn't go into chat. I avoid chat rooms too. — Infinite Recursion 3 mins ago

I see you in here, you don't avoid chat!!!

Infinite Recursion

5:59 PM

I never chat on SO @bluefeet

And nowadays, I avoid the tavern too :P

You missed the most important comment in that post, Shog is having coffee!!

I've read it twice now & can't really make sense of what you're trying to say in your last paragraph. Gonna go drink more coffee & see if that helps, but you might want to do a bit of editing here. Also, hyperbolic title ain't gonna win you supporters. Also, examples always help. — Shog9 ♦ 23 mins ago

gunr2171

2

A: Can a machine be taught to flag comments automatically?

This post alone is an amazing amount of work, the amount of work it actually represents is admirable. It's not an odd itch to want to scratch, we've been putting a lot of thought and time into comments lately. While we did find a few nice things to say about how comments on our sites are actually...

bummi

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/685894/1699210

gunr2171

6:14 PM

@InfiniteRecursion, you missed some stars at the end of the answer

Infinite Recursion

Thanks @gunr2171, fixed.

Jan scolds me for editing crap posts (so please don't reveal that I edited anything in the tavern)

Nov 3 at 10:01, by Jan Dvorak

@inf fixing crappy questions again?

bummi

@InfiniteRecursion It was interesting to see you both on work, I see I've to learn more, while I don't get the sense on those always, here would be a further candidate stackoverflow.com/q/7071825/1699210 Shark vs Gorilla IMHO

Lynn Crumbling

^ yes, opinion-based on a third party piece of software.

TGMCians

6:30 PM

last vote.. i guess inf haven't voted. lets try @inf ^^

Infinite Recursion

voted @TGMCians

TGMCians

ah thanks :)

Sam

I wonder...

>>fox

Pham

TGMCians

>>cat

Pham

6:34 PM

@TGMCians Command not recognised.

TGMCians

your bot doesn't work..^^

Sam

lol

Mooseman is eating pizza

>>panic

Sam

...

Mooseman is eating pizza

@Sam Do I need to be whitelisted here also?

Haney

6:36 PM

Please don't swear in the public chat rooms, cheers!

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Sam

@Moosemaniseatingpizza Nope.

Lynn Crumbling

Looks like I'll be earning the imitation crab hat soon.

Not hard, considering the regular list of cv/dv q's that get marched through tavern.

Mooseman is eating pizza

@Haney If you have sec, would you please approve my tag synonym on lifehacks? Thanks!

Haney

Oh I see, this was a rouse

get our attention, and then get us to do work

do you think I get paid to work on this site or something?!

(checking it out)

Sam

Pfft, at least you guys get free waffles (right?).

Haney

6:39 PM

approved cleanliness too

Mooseman is eating pizza

@Haney Thanks! :)

Haney

@Sam you have no idea. The chefs in the NYC office are incredible

Stack Exchange Chefs

@StackChefs, NYC

Eat, Drink and be Merry ~DMB ~Cooking up some fun delicious food for Stack Exchange HQ

726 tweets, 371 followers, following 375 users

check out some of the photos

I work remotely, so I rarely get to enjoy :(

Mooseman is eating pizza

Grilled skirt steak? Do you guys take visitors? :)

Haney

We do occasionally invite folks. Usually NYC locals.

Sam

:O

Mooseman is eating pizza

6:41 PM

@Haney For events?

Haney

exactly

we sometimes host events and invite folks to said events

Mooseman is eating pizza

@Haney Is there some sort of a list I could possibly get on? :)

Haney

Not really. We typically invite groups around NYC we're working with. They're often not-for-profits that are teaching people to code

if you were a member of said not for profits it's likely you'd eventually dine

I can't even get my best friends an invite to lunch though, so... ;)

Mooseman is eating pizza

Okay, thanks :)

Haney

no worries at all

if it cheers you up, again I'm remote so I rarely get to enjoy their work ;)

let me know if you need something in the future, cheers all and happy holidays!

Mooseman is eating pizza

6:43 PM

@Haney ...so does that mean if I'm in the area someday I can get your lunch? ;)

Haney

Sadly, unlikely. But you can follow Stack Chefs and live vicariously through the NYC office! (as I often do)

Pham

Low Quality A (46.6%): ********* **** ** **** *** ******, by ***** *********, on english.stackexchange.com.

Sam

^ Offensive.

Mooseman is eating pizza

@Haney lol take care

Haney

you too! peace!

Sam

6:44 PM

Cya!

Mooseman is eating pizza

Cya

SmokeDetector

7:00 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SYNTAX TREES HELPPP! by Clarra lee on linguistics.stackexchange.com

Mooseman is eating pizza

0

Q: Why do new sites appear on the reputation tab of my network profile?

I am a participant on Lifehacks.SE, which is in private beta. As of writing, I have ~1800 rep on Lifehacks.SE. However, on the reputation tab of my network profile, Lifehacks.SE is not seen. On English Language Learners SE, which is in public beta, I have a mere ~350 rep, but that is shown in th...

support reputation profile-page private-beta

TGMCians

Note : Someone (developer) suspended me without any meaningful reason from tavern chat. #unfair. it is ok bye tavern!!!!. thanks all

bummi

@TGMCians mhhh, why ?

Mysticial

7:20 PM

Since when did we have an inflamatory comment filter?

We're trying to repro it in our sandbox and can't. meta.anime.stackexchange.com/questions/857/…

Either way, I'm impressed.

Lightness Races in Orbit

@Mysticial meh, can't find it. I was sure there was a meta post about it

it was ages ago, anyway

bummi

Is there a way to handle 1:1 plagiarism without an OTHER flag?

Mooseman is eating pizza

7:37 PM

@bummi There is in tag wiki edit reviews

bummi

@Moosemaniseatingpizza to late , but I did not understand

Mooseman is eating pizza

@bummi When reviewing tag wiki edits, there is a reject reason "Copied Content"

bummi

@Moosemaniseatingpizza oh ok, not it's an answer on a question

Mooseman is eating pizza

@bummi Not to my knowledge

bjb568

@Mysticial Maybe only on for people <100 rep?

user259867

7:42 PM

@bjb568 Comments require 50 rep.

Vogel612's Shadow

@bjb568 they can't even do that in the first place..

Infinite Recursion

@TGMCians Sorry to see you leave. I will miss you :(

bjb568

@TGMCians weird

I was kicked before too :(

Infinite Recursion

chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2801243#2801243 @TGMCians

bjb568

CENSORSHIP

I mean…

██████████

Lightness Races in Orbit

7:59 PM

@bjb568 The guy who posted the image has 10k rep.

bjb568

oh

Lightness Races in Orbit

I mean, the guy who originally posted it before @Mysticial took it.

Mysticial

I can't imagine why rep would have anything to do with it. Inflammatory comments are inflammatory regardless of rep. Maybe the filter only exists on some sites and not others.

Although that's hard to see as well since a comment that's inflammatory is probably the same on all sites.

user259867

@Mysticial That would make sense. On English sites they ~~use~~ mention all kinds of words in posts and comments.

Mysticial

With that one exception. :)

Or maybe it's disabled on meta sites to allow for more "discussion". :)

bjb568

8:07 PM

They also can't blacklist body parts for biology SE.

user259867

I think it's enabled on SO only. Tried to comment on my own post there with "What a rep whore you are", got blocked. Same on Math, no problem.

Pham

Low Quality A (47%): Aacvyhhhggckffgbbgfgcxdff123456789012345677899024579, by zafar, on android.stackexchange.com.

Hobo Sapiens

^^ gone

bummi

@Mysticial The comment has not only be grabbed but posted, there are a lot of even bad comments on this thread ... flag as offensive (establish justice) or obsolete or just flag the whole thread with other for a cleanup

Lightness Races in Orbit

@bummi I flagged it an hour ago.

bummi

8:17 PM

@LightnessRacesinOrbit thanks, for letting me know, I started some obsoletes (now obsolet)

Mysticial

Or just delete the whole question. I cast the first vote.

Lightness Races in Orbit

@bummi Why? What harm is any of that doing? Just leave it alone and flag more important things. The entire question will be deleted by users soon enough.

No need to cast a million flags on mediocre comments that nobody's even going to see

bummi

@Mysticial that was my first intend but as always out of close votes, sorry for bothering

jadarnel27

2 hours ago, by Haney

Please don't swear in the public chat rooms, cheers!

Someone should tell Shog9 (and the seven people who starred that message) =P

Shog9

That wasn't swearing, that was just vulgar

Doorknob 冰

8:26 PM

@jadarnel27 Someone should tell the C++ room

jadarnel27

@Shog9 That's an interesting distinction to make (that I don't understand).

I was just pointing that Haney's comment was a little...broad, maybe. Or unclear.

Doorknob 冰

closed as too broad by jadarnel27, Doorknob ♦

Shog9

swearing would be BY ODIN'S BEARD, I WILL HAVE JADARNEL'S HEAD BY SUNDOWN!

jadarnel27

I don't see anything wrong with using profanity in chat. Although I tend to limit my use in this room, since many folks have mentioned they don't like it.

@Shog9 IN THE NAME OF THE HOUSE OF ELROND, I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU TRY!

Shog9

Contrast also with cursing, or MAY OWLS INFEST YOUR ATTIC, AND BURROWING OWLS YOUR BASEMENT

jadarnel27

8:30 PM

(am I doing it right?)

Jan Dvorak

hey.... I don't infest anything, ever!

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Doorknob 冰

"You barbarians! I’ll sue the council for all it’s got! I’ll have you hung, drawn and quartered! And whipped! And boiled… until… until… until you’ve had enough! And then I will do it again! And when I’ve finished I will take the little bits and I will jump on them! And I will carry on jumping on them until I get blisters or I can think of something even more unpleasant to do!" —Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

jadarnel27

@Shog9's pedantry has me confused about what @Haney meant.

And I also wasn't here for the situation. So maybe I should just move on.

Shog9

Note that profanity is something else again. ATWOOD ON A STICK, THAT SMARTS!

And vulgarity... Well, we already covered that.

Generally, you would avoid all of these in polite conversation.

Jan Dvorak

What about sarcasm, do we need to avoid this?

Sam

8:33 PM

And what about bots?

jadarnel27

Ah, so a moratorium on impoliteness is in order. That way we eschew vulgarity, profanity, cursing, and other such undesirable things, without having to enumerate them.

Shog9

@JanDvorak no, sarcasm is awesome and never bothers anyone

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Jan Dvorak

@jadarnel27 That will teach those pesky people to play nice, for sure

Infinite Recursion

I will still miss @TGMCians in the Tavern, hope he comes back some day

I still miss devnull and cupcake

Shog9

I could so go for a cupcake right now

jadarnel27

8:40 PM

goes for a cupcake

Doorknob 冰

Grr, pizza hat is hard. This guy has only the pizza hat and no other hats! :O

user259867

@Doorknob冰 Has anyone tried to post five self-answers to own question?

Doorknob 冰

@Behaviour Self-answers probably don't count.

Shog9

@Behaviour yes, they have. I'd show you, but you'd need 10K on SO.

Doorknob 冰

@Shog9 ... does it work?

Shog9

8:44 PM

But yeah, it's been tried. Anyone want to guess how well it worked?

Infinite Recursion

My guess: they got temporary bans

Doorknob 冰

If by "worked" you mean "got them suspended," then I'd guess it worked perfectly

jadarnel27

All you really need to do is post a question about some jQuery code with a typo in it. You'd probably get 5 answers in 90 seconds.

Doorknob 冰

halp plz how 2 fix gives error thx $('..classname').hide()

user259867

Pizza hat is easier on the sites that are okay with big-list questions, e.g. Math. It may still take some coordination to have five good answers prepared and posted in 30 minutes. The easier way is to post some clueless-looking question on which users will pounce with their wisdom. That has been tried, too.

Infinite Recursion

8:48 PM

or sites with amazing community coordination in gaming stuff (like ELU)

user259867

@InfiniteRecursion Well, coordinating votes is quite another thing from coordinating posts.

Infinite Recursion

They do coordinate votes, and posts. My opinion about "fairness" has significantly changed after participating on their site for a few months.

I like SO more, after the experience. Despite the huge volume of noise, it has a better community and ethics.

Mooseman is eating pizza

review-request apple.stackexchange.com/a/136639/103908

hichris123

9:07 PM

reopen-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/20292692/…

The Guy with The Elf Hat

9:18 PM

lol

4

A: match one line break, but not two

Use the regex \r?\n(?!\r?\n). You can find an online explanation and demonstration here. This regex uses a negative lookahead to make sure that the line break is followed by another line break. The line breaks are matched by \r?\n to conform to the standard, because some line breaks are represen...