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9:00 PM

But you can email an address that FB can monitor and get new messages as new tickets, and replies goto existing tickets (I guess based on SUBJ) and you can reply from FB

you can also email from FB directly, for CS type stuff

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Yeah I figured FogBugs was more for developer use... like Trac

That's what we use internally, I love Trac

Anyone else have a customer ticketing system they use and love?

Hey @Fosco, how goes?

Fosco

@TheUnhandledException eh it's ok.. you?

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hanging in there @Fosco... way too much work, not enough help.

Fosco

I am thinking about putting my name in the job search hat again... probably going to update my resume and post it tonight.

drachenstern

@Fosco where are you at? What platforms do you work on?

Fosco

9:10 PM

@drachenstern Northeast Pennsylvania.. C#, PHP, MSSQL, MYSQL, Javascript, etc etc..

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I forget @Fosco, do you know Prototype.js at all, or just jQuery?

Fosco

@TheUnhandledException I used prototype a long time ago, haven't really kept up with it (but it wouldn't be hard)

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Man how I wish my company had the budget to hire new talent right now...

Fosco

Yeah, me too... I'd love to telecommute.

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Our CEO has suggested that the next major project we land we'll bring on some new PHP/Javascript to assist us. I'm hoping that's sooner rather than later, as right now me and my team have enough work between now and 1/31/11 for a team twice our size

Fosco

9:14 PM

Keep me in mind :)

drachenstern

@Fosco ever do any work with MSMQ || NServiceBus?

Fosco

@drachenstern I am familiar with MSMQ and general SOA, but never actually used it.

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I sure will @Fosco -- with your XMPP work you've proven your ability already as far as I'm concerned :-)

Fosco

hah, that was nothin!

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Awesome, because what you did there was well done. Finding good people to work with can be tough! Often the quality is just not there. Actually I've already mentioned you to my business partner @Fosco, so hope we land a big job soon because I'll probably shoot you an email ;-)

Fosco

9:18 PM

Excellent :)

It's not like I'm out of a job, but after 6 months here I can see it's not going to work out long term. They aren't willing to use any new technologies, are proving to be micro-management happy, and there's no room for advancement.

Tim Stone

@TheUnhandledException Not if I steal him first! (Just kidding, we seem to work with slightly different technologies :P)

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@Tim watch out, I'll sick @rchern on you!

Tim Stone

Uh oh!

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;-)

Fosco

@TimStone What technologies do you work with?

rchern

9:20 PM

Um

drachenstern

@Fosco I had that on my last job, as soon as I got my degree, sad to say, I was out the door ... within 4 months I was with CurrentEmployer and I am much happier

Tim Stone

@drachenstern What was I searching for?

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@rchern: Edit: oy

There, fixed that for ya

rchern

(;

Tim Stone

@Fosco Java mostly, but yeah.

drachenstern

9:21 PM

@TimStone I already realized I was looking in the wrong place thrice over, found what I wanted, and going with "nm"

mostly it turned into a case of rubberduckdebugging

Tim Stone

Ah, very good then. My actually doing work and being away from chat paid off. ;)

Fosco

@TimStone ah yes :)

drachenstern

@TimStone hehehee, perhaps so

rchern

I say that we collectively interview @Fosco. Let's play "let's stump @Fosco"! (;

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right on @rchern

Tim Stone

9:22 PM

We do fun Java though, because Enterprise Java makes me sad. Right now I play with Play!

Fosco

@rchern I'm game, but not now.. it's closing time!

See you all later.

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Later @Fosco

drachenstern

lol, beer thirty strikes again!

rchern

Running scared. takes notes

Tim Stone

See ya.

@rchern Cowardly subordination is a +/-1

drachenstern

9:23 PM

observation: Fogbugz on a 1920x1080 is overkill

yay for static width formats with auto-margins :(

rchern

Since I'm sure y'all noticed, yes I know that meta isn't showing up in StackFlair. (;

Tim Stone

@rchern I actually did. ;)

Then I came to whine about it, but you looked idle at the time, so I forgot. :P

rchern

haha

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I didn't, but I don't check my own site very often because I never post anything there, LOL

rchern

saved by my idleness!

W00T

drachenstern

9:28 PM

ok, now this is just sad ...

Tim Stone

I figured too that with the keyboard navigation bug still looming I had little room to talk anyway ;)

drachenstern

Reasons I love my coworkers, #17 (img uploading)

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Wow it sure isn't working @rchern

/me goes to check the web interface to see if images posted via XMPP actually work...

They sure do not

drachenstern

the black outlined box to the right is actual HTML view (static width, snipped to the important part), the rest is chrome debug. Notice all the spacing? Notice the 6col span? /facepalm ... why couldn't it go after the name of the report???

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I dropped below 10k!

rchern

9:30 PM

Yeah, I wondered why mine was missing about 3K worth of rep.

drachenstern

omg I've created monsters, and didn't even know it. They're using three lines of code to do what one line would do ;(,,,,

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@drachenstern Sorry I'm confused

drachenstern

oh crap the black box didn't follow me from paint.net

@TheUnhandledException just know that my coworkers make dumb decisions

moreso than me

<asp:PlaceHolder ID="PlaceHolder2" runat="server" Visible='<%# Eval("GroupName").ToString()== "Alerts" %>'>
    (<asp:LinkButton ID="LinkButton1" runat="server" Text='Remove this Subscription' CommandArgument='<%#Eval("ID") %>' CommandName='true' OnCommand="FlagAlertOnCommand"  />)
</asp:PlaceHolder>

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Wow coming back to the real SO chat interface after using XMPP for a whole day makes me really disappointed in how XMPP works. A big -1 for me, LOL. (Though it's not really my fault, it's the nature of XMPP, but still...)

Michael Mrozek

@rchern I can't help but notice the official combined flair includes meta

Tim Stone

9:33 PM

Oh snap, he went there.

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But no black theme nor sites where you have <200 rep

drachenstern

should be

<asp:LinkButton ID="MeaningfulName" runat="server" Text='(Remove this Subscription)' CommandArgument='<%#Eval("ID") %>' CommandName='true' OnCommand="FlagAlertOnCommand" Visible='<%# Eval("GroupName").ToString()== "Alerts" %>' />

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which is unix and gaming for me, despite how hard I try.

Michael Mrozek

@TheUnhandledException I don't want either of those things :)

rchern

@MichaelMrozek Ouch.

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9:34 PM

I have ~190 rep on unix and can't break 200! Frustrating. And 199 on gaming! Sucks

Michael Mrozek

@rchern I don't actually use combined flair ever, so you're not losing a potential user

rchern

Not my fault the API isn't returning properly. (;

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and @Michael black looks so much better on my personal site!

Michael Mrozek

Tim Stone

@rchern Unless you made it angry.

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9:35 PM

Oh, wow, when did that happen?

2 days ago, sweet!

Tim Stone

Hahah, clearly you're committed to the unix.SE cause ;)

rchern

I want to go back to StackFlair and add more layouts. Not sure if it is worth it though.

Michael Mrozek

@TheUnhandledException Go crazy and retag everything

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I am @Tim, but I can't find unanswered questions I know how to answer

Tim Stone

Ah, fair enough :)

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9:37 PM

I need to really dedicate myself, that's how I got my SU and SF rep. It wasn't that easy

Josh, US

199 7

so sad!

Ha, that looks really weird via XMPP

Michael Mrozek

...suckers

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Michael Mrozek

@TheUnhandledException That is vastly better

Tim Stone

What are you buying a sample of for $1.23? ;)

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HAHAHAHA @Tim

Michael Mrozek

9:40 PM

It's probably something he's writing himself, or that price is a huge coincidence

rchern

hahaha

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@Michael wins the prize

rchern

That's disappointing.

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I'm writing a javascript to pull "1 Sample" out of that quantity menu and create a new "Order Sample" button for one of our clients

Tim Stone

@TheUnhandledException For obviousness? :P

Michael Mrozek

9:41 PM

@rchern Your disappointment is the real prize

rchern

):

Tim Stone

@TheUnhandledException Ah ha :)

rchern

Sometime I need to earn 25 rep on Unix. Then I can just use all my daily votes to downvote @MichaelMrozek. <_<

Tim Stone

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Q: How do you center dives using only CSS?

Hi, I currently use the way to center divs using a table and CSS: <table width="69" border="0" align="center"> <tr> <td width="59"> <div style="position:relative;"> <div style="position:absolute; text-align:left; top: 100px;">div2 content goes he...

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This is what I'm ordering:

rchern

9:42 PM

The vote fraud checker clearly wouldn't pick up on that, right?

Michael Mrozek

@rchern You'll have to keep getting upvotes occasionally to stay over 25

Tim Stone

I've always wondered how I could perfect my diving technique using CSS as well.

Michael Mrozek

I've never seen anyone show up on the vote fraud checker, so I'm a fan of this plan just to see that happen

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Michael Mrozek

I would definitely pay $1.23 for that

Assuming the fish bowl is included

rchern

9:43 PM

@MichaelMrozek heh. So you'll give me 3 upvotes daily?

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All my test products are LOLcats :-D

Michael Mrozek

@rchern You'd have to post something

rchern

Details schmetails.

drachenstern

geekporn note: the new monitor blows the clarity of the old monitors out of the water. Was I having eyestrain problems before? </rambling>

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I want a triple monitor setup

drachenstern

9:54 PM

heh I want to merely keep mine for now ;)

Aiden Bell

10:11 PM

@rchern Gimme your account details, i'll do that for you ... gladly :P

Tim Stone

10:35 PM

Hmm, the problem with having to replay all of my games on my new Xbox Live profile is that I can't decide which one to play first..

rchern

10:48 PM

@AidenBell (;

Lance Roberts

11:00 PM

Woohoo! I finally hit 2000 on SU, let the editing begin (yeah I'm a neat freak).

drachenstern

@LanceRoberts congrats sir

Aiden Bell

@LanceRoberts - Whoop. Good stuff

Fosco

11:17 PM

@TheUnhandledException I was over a friends house last night.. he has a 73" television... as a monitor. I thought my 40" was insane.

Tim Stone

@Fosco ....

Fosco

@TimStone yeah. I have since gone back to using a 24" for most things. The 40" is my second monitor and used for watching videos, etc.

drachenstern

grrr I hate arrogant users with high reps ...

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Q: Creating Application/Virtual Directories in a site that POINT to that site to simulate multiple sites. Good idea?

We need a way to say www.site.com/india www.site.com/asia www.site.com/usa etc... But we want all these requests to point back to www.site.com and not have to physically create the files and directories for every type of site... so if I just create a virtual directory (www.site.com/india) and...

asp.net iis redirection

it's ok tho, I rub back.

@Fosco that can't be good for the eyes

Fosco

@drachenstern :) I still see pretty well.

Tim Stone

@Fosco Yeah, I've been meaning to properly hook up my desktop to my TV for video-watching purposes. I'm not sure how I'd cope with 73" though. :P

drachenstern

11:23 PM

@Fosco you said it was his 73" "monitor"

Fosco

@drachenstern oh ok.. yeah, nevermind.. thought you meant even at 40"

drachenstern

lol, nah, 40" seems reasonable for a fourfoot interface :p

Tim Stone

@drachenstern Ah, to have blocks of code the size of small children..

drachenstern

@TimStone lol

@drachenstern so who thinks I'm the arrogant asshole in the wrong on that question? anybody? yeah, I got snarky, but I wanted the OP to see another way to do things, not just provide a frigging googlelink

Tim Stone

I opted not to form an opinion about either of you. :P

drachenstern

11:26 PM

@TimStone well thank you for your honesty :D

am I wrong to think a user with 117k rep should do more than a googlelink?

drachenstern

11:42 PM

I just discovered the fact that chrome knows how to autosearch stackoverflow by using the following in the uberbar stackoverflow.com how to ask (for instance) to get the URL automagically http://stackoverflow.com/search?q=how+to+ask

I'm duly impressed

rchern

hehe, i've edited the settings so that on mine i can do "so <search term>"

drachenstern

yeah but this was purely organic, I did nothing.

it automagically put the "search?q=" in the middle and the `+`s

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11:59 PM

@Fosco That's awesome. I'm saving up for a nice LCD TV, maybe when I move I'll buy one

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