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12:34 AM

SO needs to be in read-only mode from 9AM to 5PM in a timezone that I will not specify.

not 6AM to 8PM?

Possibly.

12:58 AM

@JasonC Especially on friday nights.

codereview.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/28610

Does this tag actually help?

I not so hot with objc

took me 2 hours to figure out how to ~~write~~ compile a good hello world

Use swift!

I like the alternative better... don't use Objective C, just plain C will do

user259867

1:27 AM

I tried to understand the criteria by which SE decided to disallow questions by unregistered users. So far, without success.

user259867

@Braiam's proposal on meta.AU was downvoted and refuted by several members. Then implemented.

Isn't that exactly the trilogy that prevents anonymous questions?

user259867

Not at all. SU and SF allow unreg questions. (SF after a weird interstitial page).

user259867

On the other hand, Electrical Engineering and Physics do not.

user259867

Martijn compiled a list here.

1:31 AM

I've seen that the ones that does sooner or later has low quality content and low quality bans

does electrical engineering have a quality problem?

Q: Why are electronics SE questions getting down-voted so often?

and this is further accentuated by:

> ... we don't really care about putting barriers in front of question askers

36

Users who aren't Elec. gurus seem to be asking legitimate questions to which they don't know the answer and they may even possibly going about it the wrong way. Other SE site users guide the misguided user in the right direction and provide answers that future curious persons can read about. I'...

discussion

wow, their meta.X is a mess

so many single tagged question... and only because it's obligatory

user259867

I could not find any discussion of the unregistered-questions issue on meta.EE

user259867

I'm trying to decide whether to propose this on Math. Not expecting any quality improvements, but maybe less noise due to users who want to delete their question and can't.

1:50 AM

@Braiam Ha; the only thing I get out of that guys statistics is that SO, SU, and Math don't downvote enough.

Huh, I'm being really cynical tonight.

Haha

Always remember:

My friend found that today and texted it to me, so it's a good fresh picture.

user259867

^^ Absolutely, the way. On Christianity, downvotes skyrocketed to 27% this year.

user259867

Turning the other cheek got old, I suppose.

One only has so many cheeks

2

Incidentally:

48

A: Guess the twins

user259867

@Frank Sorry to hear that. Here, have another star.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii :D

2:03 AM

feature-request Pity stars with sad faces in them

2

Q: How can I identify the "type" of a rose if I don't already know what it is?

3

In the gardening and rose books I have they talk about different types of roses - hybrid, damask, china, tea, etc. They give a brief history of each rose type and a couple of pictures, but generally little or no description. Is it in fact possible to determine a roses "type" or "class" just by ...

identification roses terminology

Yay, someone else is doing the challenge now.

@JasonC Oh, nice. +49 already.

@JasonC 1 yr old data

@Braiam Lies. 2014 is an illusion created by BIG CORPORATIONS. Only idiot sheeple think it's a real year.

btw, AU data says downvotes doubled in what have the year and upvotes may not reach 2013 levels

user259867

Thanks to Eric Carvalho in part, I suppose.

2:17 AM

@Frank I'm not sure, but is that what "terminology" means?

@Rafflesiaarnoldii nah, there was several post which afterwards there were more downvotes as whole

user259867

Maybe the Tavern can crowdsource a question for Frank's Terminology topic challenge on GL. I propose "is pizza a vegetable?"

Q: Is it reasonable to use Java libraries created by other developers?

Christ

0

My thought is that if someone has already done it, why create it again? That would be like trying to build drill yourself, in order to hang drywall, instead of just using one that someone else already created. At the sane time, does it show a lack of experience or knowledge in software programmi...

java libraries

user259867

I don't see why answers to this question could not be based on "facts, references, or specific expertise."

If you don't use available libraries, if you reinvent every wheel just because you can, I don't want to work with you. — Louis Wasserman 14 secs ago

2:26 AM

they might be based on facts, references, or specific expertise, but there's no "OP is an idiot" CV reason (anymore)

And in any case it's not even worth answering. After minimal experience the OP - or anybody else with that question - will either figure out that answer on their own or won't be involved in development any more.

english language learners — cVplZ 9 mins ago

@cVplZ Lawl.

no, seriously

in Unix and Linux on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Oct 25 at 14:32, by Braiam

most of the things I see people wants to do aren't useful, nor necessary

Ok, so I found this question which was closed as a duplicate. The OP edited his post and edited out the duplicate message. I then just edited back in... but now I realize that the duplicate page does not exist anymore.

Halp!

@cVplZ Reopen & rollback.

stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/asdfasdfqwer1234

Q: duplicate question is missing

2:44 AM

6

What happens if a "Possible Duplicate" Question is missing for a closed question. here is the link c# handle return value and execute code now under Revision List So is this a bug on SO.

bug status-bydesign

5

A: Marked as duplicated with missing counterpart

This should not be a problem going forward for new questions, since recent changes to the closing system look out for this. However, there are some questions still in the database and stuck in this state - where the duplicate named by a question that was marked as a duplicate has been deleted in...

@cVplZ The original duplicate was just another question asked by that same user, too. So it seems like it doesn't make sense as a duplicate any more anyways. Also voted to reopen.

Thanks @animuson!

Maybe someone could write a Data Explorer query to find all of these... — Danny Beckett Mar 20 '13 at 12:53

hmm.. don't know if that's possible though

@cVplZ animuson has one

Maybe this is a silly question but, shouldn't everything tagged drupal on SO be moved to drupal.se...?

animuson

2:48 AM

@cVplZ data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/169338/…

@JasonC No, drupal is on-topic here. Migration is only done when a topic is off-topic for the current site, but on-topic for the other. In this case, it's on-topic in both places.

@JasonC no, but drupal should be closed to reduce spam

7

That was weird. I just got logged out.

@hichris123 Yeah, good point.

yesterday, by Jason C

A good spam filter strategy would be to just keep drupal.se in read-only mode.

3:02 AM

Heh

Every time I go to Area51 and see the HackOverflow proposal, I have these apocalyptic visions of a site going down in flames, degenerated to nothing but "HOW DO I SPY ON MY FRIENDS TEXT MESSAGES" and 1000's of duplicates of a canonical buffer overflow exploit explanation.

Mark my words. A dark wind blows.

user259867

Well, we are already Puzzling over smelly things between twins, and daydreaming about Hacking the universe.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii "Hacking the universe... because the NSA is not enough"

user259867

@cVplZ How much reputation does one need to VTC a site?

2

3:18 AM

@Rafflesiaarnoldii power

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Yes.

Ooh. stackoverflow.com/help/badges/94/pundit?userid=2371861

user259867

@Braiam I stole your FR title. (Just noticed a typo in my #4, but decided it's funny.)

@Rafflesiaarnoldii why the heck are zeros rendered with mathjax?

btw, I would tag it as discussion if you want it to show in the Community Bulletin

user259867

@Braiam Because Georgia. Why Georgia? Ask John Mayer.

3:37 AM

cv-thatoneaboutthecodenotworkingminimalexampleblahblah stackoverflow.com/questions/26793599/…

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SELECT DATA WHOSE DIFFERENT TRANSACTIONS by user51760 on dba.stackexchange.com

user259867

^ edit suggested, though the Q may be hopeless.

3:53 AM

^ should be on SO, I think? But it's hopeless though.

user259867

Today is boring, someone please post spam somewhere.

Spam somewhere.

(you're welcome)

thanks a lot. useless comment.

user259867

it was absolutely useless. Thanks

Tweeted by Horse_ebooks on November 12, 2011 at 6:01 AM

It's not the most useless comment I've made today.

So you can take comfort in that, at least.

4:08 AM

cv-unclear stackoverflow.com/questions/26792761/…

And I fucking hate (yeah, my French) answers like stackoverflow.com/a/26793866/616460 - people who give answers like that should just be IP banned from all SE sites immediately. It's such crap. Argh.

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You get so many of them this time of night.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

A sentence fragment followed by a code block = instant ban.

I would upvote that feature request.

user259867

At least he left ` //Do the calculation` part for the OP.

Every comment in that code snippet is awful, redundant, and pointless.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Seriously. Really you just get these annoying people who actually just want to show the world that yes, they too know how to write a program that calculates the volume of a cone or whatever. Cool, A+, good for your self-image.

Q: How to safely cook a lamb's head?

Those are exactly the kind of comments that get encouraged by college professors, and are discouraged by...everyone else.

user259867

4:20 AM

1

I saw at the butcher's shop today that they sold the head of the lamb, cut in half down the middle. I became really interested because the brain was fresh, and I believed it to be really nutritious. However, when I told my family about it, they were rather freaked out. They argued that the brain ...

food-safety lamb

user259867

For once, this is not an Arqade question designed to freak people out.

4:36 AM

@AndrewT. Yes; see meta.gardening.stackexchange.com/questions/602/…

Well this answers my confusion from earlier about spam vs NAA.

0

A: Markdown to HTML, again

Note: I don't have enough rep to comment, so if a mod can move this to a comment on the OP that would be appreciated. You're being a bit stingy with whitespace, which makes the code difficult to review. There are also no comments, and while minimal commenting is good practice, having no comments...

What's "stingy with whitespace" mean?

It isn't like it's minified…

Q: In a string of comments, including junk, should I flag the individual comments, or leave a custom flag on the post?

0

A moderator on GL made a meta post about flagging comments. The part of it I'm questioning is: If there are more than one comments that should be removed, don't flag them individually because that can make it difficult to see what's what. When viewing a post, moderators see an overlay with th...

discussion comments flags moderation

user259867

Finally, SPAM! drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136084/…

Thoughts on my question, anyone?

user259867

4:51 AM

I think it's a dupe.

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Nice. Of what?

Jamal

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/26794102/…

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136084/…

user259867

^^ dupe.

@Andy gone

'Night!

4:56 AM

@Frank meta.stackexchange.com/questions/203211/… maybe.

@JasonC Hmm, that's what it looks like.

Mine was shorter.

user259867

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136085/…

flag it like this

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136085/…

there is a bot watching for that format that will be used to help teach Pham and Smokey what spam looks like

user259867

Okay, will do. Does Gham also learn from it? I still don't know what it does.

I'm not sure what Gham does.

user259867

5:08 AM

spam drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136087/…

user259867

^^ I'm learning too!

How to uplift of dropping cheeks...

Oh they mean on the face probably

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Can I Recommend Skin care products? by gloriahaiigh on drupal.stackexchange.com

user259867

Smokey is 1 for 4 tonight, 0.250 batting average.

I want to get a Marshal on drupal some day, just for spam flags.

user259867

5:11 AM

@JasonC You are empowered to tell tp to Smokey, right?

@Rafflesiaarnoldii Oh yeah that's right

user259867

This one is tp. "u" is for users, those flagged because of name.

i think its tp

the worst that happens is that smokey crashes and burns and takes down the entire internet

Oh I did the edit hting.

@SmokeDetector true

@JasonC Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

5:12 AM

woo! internet is still here

Doh

user259867

Also, a new question was just posted on Drupal; shockingly, not spam.

I hate when I do that; accidentally edit a chat comment instead of posting a new one. Confuses the crap out of me.

user259867

Do the bots even consider the site of origin? Comes from Drupal => +20 to the spam score.

There is some site logic in both, but it is different and I'm not sure exactly what it is

5:15 AM

Does drupal actually get more spam, or do we just see it more in the chat room because there's not as many people around this time of day to catch it.

@bjb568 It means that it is difficult to read. You have no blank lines between functions, and you have one line while loops, then a variable declaration and another one line while loop. The lack of white space and new lines makes it hard to review

user259867

Oct 30 at 5:24, by Weapon of Choice

Fun fact: over 1/4 of all posts on Drupal are deleted (26%). Compared to 16% on SO.

user259867

^ I think it does get more spam than other sites.

Indeed

@Rafflesiaarnoldii with extra fire to make sure the lamb head doesn't awake to bite you?

5:27 AM

cv-pls should be on meta.so stackoverflow.com/questions/26749419/…

@JasonC Jan mentioned that there is a certain group (company? organization?) that targets drupal.se for spamming their product

Again with the shitty "yay I can solve a problem, here let me do your work for you" answers stackoverflow.com/questions/26794488/…

user259867

Whoa, someone nuked spam post on Drupal before I could even get to it. A moderator is awake there.

user259867

@JasonC Basic instinct: oooh, I know that!. Very visible on Math as well.

5:46 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SEND BUTTON IN SERIAL IN C# by ChronoAngeL on stackoverflow.com

@SmokeDetector fixed

Ninja'd

6:01 AM

what is this room about?

@DroidDev It's about booibies.

@JasonC well....name changed

and @AndrewT. left room instantly :P

in Gayzone on Stack Overflow Chat, 16 secs ago, by boyee

they all left

in Gayzone on Stack Overflow Chat, 20 secs ago, by boyee

i'm the only girl here

:/

Lol

can a person with 110 repz create a chatroom?

6:09 AM

@DroidDev requires 100 rep. So, yes

stackoverflow.com/help/privileges/chat-rooms

user259867

6:22 AM

spam meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243181/…

@Rafflesiaarnoldii gone so quick!

user259867

noticed so late! (by me)

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SELECT DATA WHOSE DIFFERENT TRANSACTIONS by user51760 on dba.stackexchange.com

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skin Care Open use by ra sion on meta.stackexchange.com

SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM ^^^^

user259867

6:37 AM

Looks like Meta is second after Drupal in spam volume. Would be interesting to see actual statistics

@SmokeDetector true

@JasonC Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

nvm, closed

Can I apply filters to the realtime question feed?

Or at least just view the realtime feed for a specific site?

Write a userscript

per-site homepages do auto-update

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/136095/…

user259867

6:47 AM

I just keep Drupal's newest Questions page open in a tab. When (1) appears, it's spam.

@JanDvorak Oh right, duh.

essentially the same thing I do

Yup, same thing I do too. Absolutely. Always been doing that. Yup. Ha ha sure. Yup. >.>

user259867

^ Live demo. But I plan to add sound notification to it, if it does not get too annoying.

7:04 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243184/…

^ gone

in Shadow's Den, 55 secs ago, by Shadow Wizard

Thanks for clarifying, now it's clear. Think there is a dupe, will search later. (no time now, just voted to Reopen) — Shadow Wizard 1 min ago

^ i.e. reopen

7:44 AM

rv-pls codereview.stackexchange.com/questions/69137/…

vba4all

8:05 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/18976022/…

cv-pls (way too broad or possibly server fault) stackoverflow.com/questions/26795371/…

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/26796410/…

8:34 AM

spam? superuser.com/questions/261174/…

NAA at least

@JanDvorak I'd say yes

@JanDvorak I'd go NAA

8:50 AM

@JanDvorak yep: This answer is effectively an advertisement with no disclosure. It is not useful or relevant, but promotional.

It feels relevant (kinda)

Their other answers are not too bad though. It may just be NAA.

Also, that^. The rep feels too high for a spammer.

disputed, but down

spam flags mod-disputed? Nice

8:55 AM

not an answer - helpful

dammit

It's just one flag. I have the Deputy badge on SU anyway.

9:09 AM

cv-pls typohttp://stackoverflow.com/questions/26797656/uncaught-synta‌xerror-unexpected-identifier

9:21 AM

status-removed

9:32 AM

Morning

What a hell are you explaining me? I just give a quick answer with the full better reference link, if he need further details. On stack many answers is like this, with no problem — George Garchagudashvili 7 mins ago

Apparently he doesn't understand what I'm explaining

Or something like that

Bart

Just back away slowly ... :)

@Sam: I totally didn't count on that

Eh, chat hates me.

:cough:

9:35 AM

@Cerbrus lies

rene

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/26798186/amazon-interview

cv'd

rene

tnx

POB, or answer "doesn't matter"? stackoverflow.com/questions/26798285/…

dunno, are you dire for rep?

9:46 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword in title: Skin Care Google by jonedawn000 on drupal.stackexchange.com

@SmokeDetector true

@JanDvorak Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243190/…

user273376

a member keeps on rolling back an edit to his vandalism meta.stackexchange.com/questions/243182/…

@Pham fp why

9:51 AM

@JanDvorak

Term(s) found: (Ignored: 0%. Score: 10) ^\<p\>[^a-z]*\<\/p\>$   (Sensitivity: 1.7%. Specificity: 93.1%. Ignored: 96.2%. Score: 79) ^(?i).{0,80}$   (Ignored: 66.7%. Score: 16.9) ^[^ ]*$

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ABOUT PROJECTILE OF A BOMB DROPPEDFROM AEROPLANE by Shobik Gupta on physics.stackexchange.com

why was this^^^ posted here, @Sam

@JanDvorak Because one of those terms is marked "auto".

(The all caps one)

oh. thanks

I was worried someone TP'd that

Yeah, that had me for a sec as well, frantically searching for a tpa ;)

9:55 AM

Low Quality A (46.8%): no:( no:( no:( no:( no:( no:( no:( no:( no:(..., by noman, on physics.stackexchange.com.

abusive, or just a crappy non-answer?

looks like a bit of both..

non-answer in the very least though.

Well it doesn't answer the question.

I vlq'd it

Spam A (73.8%): Bulk Logged will not help you in this situat..., by laskozinin, on dba.stackexchange.com.

Low Quality Q (39.6%): How to add Comma separated numbers in Javascript?, by Harshith Shetty, on stackoverflow.com.

10:14 AM

^ question closed.

Spam still there.

vba4all

1 close vote needed please

-4

Q: Make a cell blink

If I have a time value in cell AE3 as 00:00, how can I use VBA to make the cell blink when the current time is 2 hours greater than AE3, and stop when cell has no value or empty? Here is the homework I've done. Maybe I can use a variation of this? MODULE Option Explicit Public RunWhen As Dou...

excel excel-vba

Closed.

10:30 AM

any mod nearby to lock the rollback war?

current status: revision 26

Hey folks!

@Frank howdy!

Hiya.

@Vogel612'sShadow looks like @ShadowWizard is having fun there...

Totally..

vba4all

10:35 AM

exact - duplicate : stackoverflow.com/questions/26799018/…

Bart

Oooh, drama

I see my question wasn't cv'd as a dupe. I was expecting it to be when I woke up this morning. :D

+110 already today on GL.

Low Quality Q (39.8%): Change position of Map and Satellite option in google map v3 api, by devanshul, on stackoverflow.com.

Low Quality A (19.9%): Not useful for large number of rows., by Amit Deo, on stackoverflow.com.

Low Quality Q (100%): How to get the System.Label.demolabel in c# code, by Lemon, on salesforce.stackexchange.com.

11:04 AM

@Pham why

@Unihedron Term(s) found: (Sensitivity: 0.8%. Specificity: 85.6%. Ignored: 92.4%. Score: 39) (?s-m)^.{0,150}$

Low Quality A (19.9%): The problem solved with the help of a collea..., by user285825, on stackoverflow.com.

Mooseman

@Pham why

@Mooseman Term(s) found: (Sensitivity: 3.5%. Specificity: 94.2%. Ignored: 94.4%. Score: 84) ^(?i).{0,80}$

11:21 AM

This is not a valid answer. You should either add an answer to your question, which depicts how you solved the problem or delete the question, because the problem that caused you to ask this doesn't exist anymore. — DroidDev 3 mins ago

Bart

Spare yourself the effort guys. Last seen in november of 2013 ... nuke it.

SilentKiller

@DroidDev vlq or naa ?