@Vogel612'sShadow I don;t understand what you mean by getting at? you don't understand what I mean? I mean I am here by mistake if I have nothing with SE stuff?
@Ahmad IT'S JUST A FUCKING CHAT ROOM! And it's meta.se's main chat room, and so the topic is officially that. It's also people that like to come here and associate with others in a chat room. Just like any other chat room. There are tons of other chat rooms too if you find one you like better. There's also chat rooms on the other SE sites.
@Vogel612'sShadow oooops! I've heared westerners are direct people, you just said you are fine here, now you say about flagging, which I should beleive?
Instead of banging your head on the wall trying to figure it out just observe for a while until you pick it up. This strategy works for everybody else.
@Ahmad Also, for some background, meta.se didn't used to have this room. A while ago SO's meta was also kind of accidentally the main SE meta; then there was a big effort to split the two apart. So a lot of users here are SO-oriented because they came from when the Tavern was on SO, and stuck around after the split because it was familiar.
You know I had some posted, I expected that I am in a fair and unbiased community when everything is reasonable, but really the votter manner is inconsistent, also it was about a similar reasoning with my post which had high up votes
I know I had mistakes and learnt much but it wasn't all
sometimes I see my efforts in vein, I don;t see consistent behaviour of voters
@Ahmad Your complaints are received poorly because they are the same old complaints that have been discussed too many times in the past, and the resolution is for you to either stick around more to appreciate how this community works (you can only learn by observation) or to find a different community.
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New complaints on that topic will never be well received and it would be a much better strategy for you to search around on the metas to find preexisting conversations and observe what has already been discussed. Either that or just chill out.
@Ahmad If you support that guys idea then upvote it and maybe leave a nice comment. Don't just keep posting the same stuff that has already been discussed; if you do this your posts will not be well received.
Also, that guy has a much more positive and objective tone in his post. Since English is not your first language you might not quite understand your tone. You may be misunderstood. This is understandable and there's not much that can be done about it, unfortunately.
@Unihedron soriting on populirity it has 104... After tinkering way too much, I've come to the opinion that there's no great reason for down-voting a question.
@Ahmad I do realize. You're also attempting to insult me without a particular good cause. Now please find out which sorting mode you're on so I can realize which answer you're looking at. THANK YOU.
@Ahmad Let me ask you a question that may shed some light on why you are getting poor responses to your complaints: Why, in your honest opinion, are we still having this discussion with you?
@Ahmad Then keep those both in mind. You are not a native English speaker, and you are new to the site. These are (temporary) weaknesses that you have, which is OK. This means that posting complaints to the site is not the best strategy for you. Your feelings about it are valid, but you will need to find a strategy that takes advantage of your strengths. For now, that strategy might simply be to observe and read existing commentary, rather than attempting to start new conversations.
@Ahmad Learning to say things that people understand, and trying to judge reactions ahead of time, are both useful general skills in my opinion, yes. It's not the only strategy, but it does make for good communication.
@JasonC all things you said are right, but you didn't explicity described the different votes for mine and that post, also there are other examples, I said something from the site but yet get down-voted, if it continues gradually I may loose my faith, however I admit I must learn yet
@JasonC I can do it, but really it wasn't what I expected form SE
@Ahmad I don't feel the need to explicitly describe why the votes are different. My own feelings are that it does not matter. Please recognize that you are the one that feels the need to have those reasons defined. I can't define them. I don't know. For all I know they were random. Also, whether or not you lose your faith is not my concern and is none of my business. These are all things that are only up to you.
@Ahmad If what you see is not what you expected, then that's all there is to it. It wasn't what you expected - oh well! If you still like it, stick around. If you don't like it, either leave or try to make a change. BUT, "trying to make a change" will only be effective if you're willing to do the things we are talking about (communication, research prior conversations, stay open minded), otherwise it's just complaining. Get it? Those are your three options, really.
@JasonC You are a more expereinced one, what is your advice, to wait more and finally get understood and understand or Its just the SE, and you admit that is not that ideal I may imagine?
@Ahmad My advice is to wait more and gain more experience. Then make your own decision about whether you like it or not. You're allowed to feel however you want about it.
@JasonC I have good faith, cause its a respected and famous site, with millions of people and probability says they are not biased, hope to keep that faith
@Unihedron We need more questions. When we get good ones and it hits the hot questions list, we get good answers. The problem seems ot be the lack of questions
It will take practice. The cup doesn't naturally separate the skin from the fruit, it's still a cut, so you have to balance between wasting fruit and cutting through the skin.
@TGMCians I clicked the "email for invite link", which opened GMail (my email), in Chrome (my browser), and somehow managed to not fill in the "To" address. Yay Google quality.
There was a distinct point in time, a few years ago, where it genuinely seems like some GUI master at Google got hit by a bus and was replaced by an autistic monkey with ADD.
If you come into a chatroom, don't be surprised when people chat with you, @InfiniteRecursion. I'll leave you alone, though. I certainly don't want to continue to bother you / hurt your feelings. I was just trying to bring some levity to the situation.
The original Google chat, you just click sign out. Hangouts, you go to the home page, go to the settings menu, go to accounts, click the account to sign out of, scroll to the bottom, and click sign out.
@jadarnel27 Thanks, now that you said it without mockery, I understand your pov and appreciate it. I do know that users can ping me from the tavern, but I don't appreciate if someone is chatting with Bart and ping me mockingly when I am neither present in the room or the conversation, and never chat with you in general. In this room, simultaneous conversations go on, same was the case yesterday...pinging about content deletion while I was not even talking to you.
Any content I write, delete whatever is liscenced under an agreement between SE and myself, telling someone that it belongs in their profile is rude, just to bring some levity to the situation.
@LynnCrumbling Btw, everything Pham posts in here is first checked by someone with priv command access. So replying isn't necessary (feel free to carry on, just sayin') ;)
@SterlingArcher I've tried spoons; the angle isn't quite right, but I've heard good things about melon ballers. Or BAWLAZ. I've been toying with designs for a lego robot to do it for me.
I'm trying to watch a training video on "test first development," and I am endlessly distracted by the presenter putting his class variables at the bottom of the class (rather than at the top).
I know that none of the users, including Jan, mean anything bad, but this isn't what I come to SE for..to give clarifications to users about likes....I come here to cv and flag spam, I thought I would continue doing that without engaging in chatting with anyone, like Mark Booth, but that upsets others if they see me in the room here