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user259867

12:03 AM

> And a lot of the questions can be closed/deleted.

user259867

^^ My favorite part of @bjb568 proposal. I like it when a lot of questions get closed/deleted.

hichris123

@justabrickinthewall How many upvotes/downvotes does this question have? math.stackexchange.com/questions/1002627/…

user259867

@hichris123 Used to be 3:0, now it's 3:1.

user259867

People on Math... just. do. not. downvote. enough.

hichris123

@justabrickinthewall If I had 12 more rep. ;P

user259867

12:06 AM

Wait, the OP actually tried to improve the Q a bit.

user259867

I reverted my DV, but will leave the closed status for others to consider.

user259867

Oh well. Edited and voted to reopen.

user259867

> Don't be a slave to asker effort. That's just a recipe for frustration. And this is supposed to be fun.

user259867

^^ From this answer by Shog9... I think it's not that simple in math, it's too easy to drown a site in copy-pasted homework to the point where it defines what the site is about.

user259867

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Q: Sanction for answering a homework question

One of the problems with homework questions is that they often get an answer before the question can be closed. So the vile perpetrator gets the answer they want, and the subsequent downvotes don't hurt them because their rep is probably already just 1 and they may not be planning to come back an...

discussion

SmokeDetector

12:27 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MATH PROBABILITY QUESTIONS! by Jay on math.stackexchange.com

Braiam

> Shog: Why you answer questions
me: for the money

Jason C

12:55 AM

My SNES emulator skips frames when I press tab. I need that for the laundromat.

Braiam

@JasonC Y U NO USE TURBO?!

Jason C

I did kinda use turbo to add 8 minute chunks to the dryer.

Mostly I'm sad I can't play the den word game on my phone.

hichris123

@justabrickinthewall I'm confused on the line for homework questions on Math.SE. So 5 little words makes a question ok vs closed?

Jason C

@hichris123 Probably. That's how SE works. For example, s/home/job site/g on network engineering and boom! On topic.

user259867

@hichris123 Not only that, but the OP was in fact communicating via comments and asking how the question should be improved. It may be a little, but I wanted to give some positive reinforcement.

hichris123

1:02 AM

@justabrickinthewall Right, which I think is a main source of frustration for people. I think Shog is right, but in a little different way: you get tired of doing other people's work for them. If you know it's not homework, and/or they did some work with it, you feel more inclined to help because hey, they're confused. But when they copy & paste a problem... that's when you aren't as motivated to help as why should you do what people are supposed to to, day after day after day?

user259867

Huh. Five users think that Stack Overflow is the only site that has a homework problem.

user259867

317

Q: Should Stack Overflow be awarding "A"s for Effort?

This just came up again: homework is not acceptable if the asker has made no effort whatsoever I'm developing a bit of an involuntary twitch that manifests itself when I encounter the word "effort" on Stack Overflow these days. Don't get me wrong — effort is good. At least, productive eff...

discussion stackoverflow question-quality

user259867

^^ closed as "This question pertains only to a specific site in the Stack Exchange Network."

hichris123

159

A: Improving "demonstrate a minimal understanding" close reason

Analogy Time A good question-answer pair is like collaborative puzzle solving. The asker has a big puzzle they are trying to solve, and is stuck on some part of it. A good question will identify the specific part they are stuck on, share what pieces they are aware of, and ask for guidance to ...

@justabrickinthewall ^

> This question needs more help than we can provide. We like helping people, but sometimes the person needs to help themselves first by reading a book on the language, the online documentation, or asking someone they know who can help them. Once you understand the topic a little better, we invite you to edit this question, fix the obvious mistakes, and get it re-opened.

Braiam

@justabrickinthewall come on people....

cVplZ

1:17 AM

@justabrickinthewall Yes, and I'm in good company with @nicael and @ShadowWizard

Old questions that are SO specific, already have many comments, many answers, should not be edited to be SE focused, in most cases, in my opinion. You'd have to edit the question, all the answers, and the comments will be SO specific still.

user259867

@cVplZ What is SO-specific about no-effort questions?

user259867

> Please don't close questions just because they happen to have been written in the context of Stack Overflow. -- Shog9

cVplZ

obviously bugs and feature requests that are network wide but only mention SO , can easily be edited... but like discussions about SO and questions that are allowed and stuff, are too narrowly focused to be on MSE

There's many different close reasons between sites.

Braiam

@cVplZ check this out meta.stackexchange.com/a/242810/213575

if you remove/replace Stack Overflow with anything else and the post still make sense, just remove/replace it, and don't close it

user259867

@cVplZ I can read Shog9's question oneboxed above, replace SO with Math at every instance, and it makes perfect sense. Not saying I agree with it, but it makes sense. That post was even discussed on meta.Math at some point.

cVplZ

1:24 AM

Ok, I see your all's point. I don't go looking to close questions on Meta.SE , but if I see them in the close queue, I will keep your points in mind, but may still vote to close some of them that are too far leaning.

Braiam

stuff I don't mind closing are tag burnination request that are already done, things that a) are not relevant anywhere and b) are not relevant anymore

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PHP CODEIGNITER PAGINATION CANNOT CLICK THE NEXT LINK by farookphuket THAI MAN on stackoverflow.com

Braiam

@SmokeDetector code formating: mega fail!

Andrew T.

2:08 AM

just finished reading that on Shadow's Den...

Qantas 94 Heavy

2:44 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/14884072/…

animuson

Too harsh? He'll probably claim I'm being a bully.

hichris123

It should also be pointed out there is a history here. The OP has been around much longer than 2 months. He previously had his account deleted here after encountering a question ban. Several of his questions on a previous account (now seen as user129679 for those who can see deleted questions) were closed as too broad. The OP is not a new user who is confused, but rather someone who has been around for at least two accounts and continues to ask broad questions after it has been explained several times the nature of too broad and the expectations for a good question on Programmers.SE. — MichaelT yesterday

btw

animuson

So probably been around there for the full 5 months then...

> And to be perfectly honest, everything you've written here in your question and comments seems to support that theory.

^ FWIW I also cast a close vote on his question because of that.

Let them complain that I answered a question I also voted to close.

Unihedron

3:06 AM

Ha, I do that all the time. @animuson

bjb568

… I don't.

@animuson "First off, let's your your age on this network."?

Andrew T.

^ that's the first thing I got in my mind when reading the answer: huh?

animuson

It's a good thing I have someone to proofread my emails at the Election Commission before I send them. :P

user259867

Typos aside, I would remove the age-ism. Who knows how long the user was really on the site. (This is my ... double-digit something profile, don't even know myself.)

Andy

cv-pls recommendation stackoverflow.com/q/26625161/189134

cv-pls another recommendation stackoverflow.com/q/14232352/189134

cv-pls last recommendation for a bit stackoverflow.com/q/26357391/189134

bjb568

3:29 AM

Me like when animuson is here.

Andrew T.

@Andy gone

bjb568

Me auto carrot no like.

user245167

3:39 AM

SPAM edited by mod? webmasters.stackexchange.com/posts/71587/revisions

user259867

@user245167 Not sure that spam. S/he is asking what CMS that site uses.

Andrew T.

@user245167 honest question with veeeery bad presentation. flagged

user259867

flagged as what? VLQ? It's already closed.

user245167

@justabrickinthewall Then mod's edit made the question invalid. Abuse of edit privilege

3ventic

Honestly smells like spam to me...

user245167

3:44 AM

Mod did not improve the post with the edit, right now the question is invalid

3ventic

Looks like it wasn't valid to begin with

Andrew T.

Okay, I didn't get to flag that question though.

user259867

Yeah, I don't know what bybe was thinking there. Removing URL while keeping the rest of question is just totally pointless. Either URL should stay or the whole question should go.

user245167

^I agree

Andrew T.

I joined the site. It is about smartphone vendor in Indonesia. The site itself looks legit...

user245167

3:48 AM

NEVER OPEN SPAM!

Andrew T.

Well, before it's going off-topic, noone comment bybe on that post?

animuson

Spam is something that is blatantly promotional. That question looks like a legitimately bad attempt at asking what they used for that site. That user has also had several legitimately bad attempts at asking questions on Stack Overflow, none of which were promotional in any way.

Andrew T.

^

user245167

But then a very very bad edit by the mod, the question is now meaningless

Andrew T.

The problem is on the mod then, not the ~~post itself~~ asker's intention

user259867

3:54 AM

Does it have to be blatant, @animuson? Some spam is covertly promotional, like planting questions with answers: "use this nice tool"... (going further OT)

user259867

@bybe Removing the URL but keeping the rest of question resulted in something meaningless. Either URL should stay or the whole question should go, imo. — just a brick in the wall 17 secs ago

bjb568

4:07 AM

Looks like spam to me.

Night.

Andy

cv-pls recommendation stackoverflow.com/q/24614842/189134

user245167

Stackoverflow moderators today have some serious personal issues.

^answered yesterday by 18K user

Ironically enough, one of more useful answers was downvoted to -14, then deleted by moderators.

^36K user on StackOverflow

Tim Stone

One of the comments on that deleted answer is rather telling, heh.

> Your sarcastic answer is now the first thing I find when I search java json parser.

SO USEFUL

2

Andrew T.

I'm curious now about the deleted answer :/

Tim Stone

It basically just said to search for libraries.

Andrew T.

4:18 AM

okay...

Tim Stone

At least the deleted answer in the first link actually linked to something specific, although that was all it did.

user245167

I suspect the moderators would prefer we not use StackOverflow as a bug tracker.

I'm going to post again in hopes that Moderators understand most people come here to gain an understanding of their problems and not just a quick solution.

animuson

Not really sure why the original was deleted.

Tim Stone

Probably because it was flagged as NAA and starts with "I cannot comment but..."

In the depths of the flag queue that probably didn't paint a good picture. :P

user245167

Wut is this edit?

Andrew T.

4:25 AM

@user245167 come to think of it, how about the other answer on that question? Doesn't seem like an answer to me...

user213963

Spam flags please: programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/261608/…

Andrew T.

@MichaelT Also check both accounts' other answers on other sites

user213963

@AndrewT. Just noticed that too... lots of flags out there!

user245167

a moderator named Andrew Barber (who does not seem to post answers to AspectJ questions himself) has deleted my previous post, maybe accidentally. It was relevant and pointed to another answer, so as not to copy & paste it.

this answer was deleted by Andrew Barber, but its a solid work around and it's helpful so i'm posting it again

thank you -> Andrew Barber for deleting my last answer.....here it is again

^he cleans up, people repost :/

user259867

@AndrewT. Can't, because I closed that window and now don't have a link to profile...

hichris123

4:36 AM

1

A: BigQuery Job State stuck in "RUNNING"

I have had the same issue with a small extract job that took 2.5 hours to run. Big Query may be having a capacity issue. I posted my question here: Is extract down? I am glad I am not the only one having issues with job runs today.

NAA

Andrew T.

summarized:

SPAM ux.stackexchange.com/questions/67195/…

SPAM quant.stackexchange.com/questions/15261/…

SPAM askubuntu.com/questions/544954/…

Andy

naa stackoverflow.com/a/26707698/189134

user245167

naa stackoverflow.com/a/26514371/2982225

0

A: Symfony2 Ajax Call to Multiple Controllers in one Bundle

I've been giving the wrong url to ajax. Someone ban for 30 day on Stack Overflow for being an idiot

Andrew T.

@user245167 flagged the question: not-repro

need to cool down my head...

user245167

4:54 AM

naa? stackoverflow.com/a/3636971/2982225

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/354082/2982225

naa stackoverflow.com/a/26707775/2982225

Andrew T.

5:32 AM

vlq meta.stackexchange.com/questions/242972/automation-testing-tool

user245167

5:49 AM

this user is still doing spurious tag editing, I already flagged him once for mods

SmokeDetector

6:08 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: How to resolve this Hashe 1317998709 by user1996 on stackoverflow.com

DroidDev

ot? ^

user245167

@SmokeDetector true

SmokeDetector

@user245167 Registered as true positive: added title to Bayesian doctype 'bad'.

DroidDev

cv-plz too-broad stackoverflow.com/q/26708674/2389078

cv-plz too-broad stackoverflow.com/q/26708664/2389078

cv-plz ot-rec tools stackoverflow.com/q/26708639/2389078

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: QUERY TO GET DISCTINT RECORDS FROM A TWO TABLES by Khalid Khan on stackoverflow.com

Jan Dvorak

6:24 AM

@DroidDev y u no vote?

DroidDev

@JanDvorak but, I already flagged it. I don't have voting privileges

Jan Dvorak

answer more

DroidDev

@JanDvorak actually, I don't find time to write complete answers these days and then, I only know about android where people mostly just ask for code, which I don't just like to answer