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Cole Johnson

7:00 AM

Hey, it's midnight!

Jan Dvorak

It's always midnight somewhere

Unihedron

Good night!

(It's always day on the internet until someone goes to sleep. :)

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/128372/…

Cole Johnson

@Ramhound my neighbor had a jack rabbit (named Jack) once that just disappeared one day — Cole Johnson 29 secs ago

Unihedron

@Jan: You were so quick to link that, you forgot to flag it yourself. ;)

Cole Johnson

7:02 AM

> One periods so once every two a few a few a few several weeks and it does outstanding aspects my roots and I do like it.

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron Why would I flag myself? I did flag the post

Cole Johnson

That's a few too many "a few"s...

@Jan because flagging ourselves is fun

> I still bravery think I've got enough yak still a arriving back position of the car park staying on this is roots

Jan Dvorak

*stabs a flag pole into himself*

Unihedron

@Jan I meant that you forgot to flag the post as well.

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron I flagged it

Unihedron

7:04 AM

When I reached the page and casted my flag, it was at 0 score.

Cole Johnson

But did you flag the flag pole!?

Jan Dvorak

should I flag before posting here?

Cole Johnson

Jan Dvorak

it's just a question of order

gone

Cole Johnson

Really? superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/269233

-_- superuser.com/review/suggested-edits/234395

Jan Dvorak

7:07 AM

@ColeJohnson because you removed the OS info?

@ColeJohnson y u no liek paragraphs?

Cole Johnson

@JanDvorak that doesn't relate to the question at all?

1 liek == 5 reputation

Infinite Recursion

This was vandalism, Cole - Your edit defaces the post

Cole Johnson

@InfiniteRecursion how does it deface the post

Unihedron

@ColeJohnson It defaces the post!

Jan Dvorak

it lowers the legibility, at least

Cole Johnson

7:11 AM

Again, how?

Jan Dvorak

it removes all paragraph breaks

Cole Johnson

I removed "doubly asked questions"

Jan Dvorak

doesn't help

Infinite Recursion

Yes, and doesn't provide a single improvement. The original "Why do file URLs have three slashes?" is far better than your improved version "Why is this?"

Jan Dvorak

@ColeJohnson duplication isn't bad

Cole Johnson

7:13 AM

Ok, but it's not vandalism. It's just a bad edit

Unihedron

It's quite bad that it defaces it..

Jan Dvorak

define "vandalism", @ColeJohnson

Cole Johnson

> (noun) action involving deliberate destruction of or damage to public or private property.

Infinite Recursion

It's outright vandalism - clearly "defaces" the post

Unihedron

^

@Cole my personal experience tells me that only edit high-rated or old content when you're absolutely sure that it's necessary + improves the content.

Cole Johnson

7:14 AM

Is it not deliberately defacing the content. I genuinely thought that improved the post at the time.

Infinite Recursion

@Cole: Your edit made and absolutely clear question with 128 upvotes unclear. How isn't it "destruction of public property"?

Cole Johnson

How was it unclear? I kept the original question; why are there 3 slashes?

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion Cole is arguing about the "deliberate" part. Apparently faceplanting on your keyboard isn't vandalism because you didn't mean to do it

or is he?

Unihedron

Changing `file://D:/Desktop/Book.pdf` to `file://D:/Book.pdf` is radical; Changing the formatting to without paragraphs is defacing it; Shortening the title which had no problem on the first place was invalid.

My two cents.

Cole Johnson

I am. I genuinely thought it was an improvement at the time. No mal intent and I'm being attacked as if it was because of the usage of the word "vandalism"

Infinite Recursion

7:17 AM

"Deliberately" would be valid if you were listening to us and not defending your vandalism after all the explanations. You seem pretty determined and decided about your edit Cole.

Jan Dvorak

@ColeJohnson accidentally faceplanting on your keyboard still results in vandalism suggested edits

Cole Johnson

I agree it was bad, but I'm arguing about being attacked because of it

Unihedron

Ignore it and move on, make better edits, become a famous editor for your future works..

Jan Dvorak

^

Unihedron

No point crying over a rejected edit :)

Infinite Recursion

7:19 AM

^^^

Unihedron

(Sorry if I put it too rude.)

Stijn

Vandalism is intentional destruction of content. I'm pretty sure that wasn't what Cole was trying to do. Was there a previous discussion about this, or just the past 10 minutes on chat?

Cole Johnson

Past 10 minutes

Unihedron

It could be rejected for a different reason as well, actually.

Also,

How to Edit

► fix grammatical or spelling errors

► clarify meaning without changing it <-

Infinite Recursion

^^ + Don't remove OS details from questions, these are helpful information for those who want to answer.

Cole Johnson

7:24 AM

Ok, I need to sleep now

Infinite Recursion

Don't edit just to change "writing style" of authors from 2 paragraphs to one paragraph and vice-versa

Unihedron

By the way, "This edit changes too much in the original post; the original meaning or intent of the post would be lost." is the reason "Radical Change", vandalism is "This edit introduces spam, defaces the post in some way, or is otherwise inappropriate."

Good night @Cole!

Jan Dvorak

night

Infinite Recursion

night

Unihedron

7:42 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/1794455

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/128376/…

gone

Unihedron

gg spam

Jan Dvorak

8:42 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/128385/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: PUSH NOTIFICATION FROM SERVER ASP.NET WITH SIGNALR V1.2 on programmers.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

vlq drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/128387/…

lostsock

@AdamBarak - at least choose your own throwaway e-mail address rather than using somebody else's. If we have to send you a mod message it will get sent to the e-mail address you provide. We can't know that it's not really your address so there's a real risk we'll inadvertently reveal some personal information to a random person. Do you really want that? — ChrisF ♦ 1 min ago

lol @Bart's sock causin trouble

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Bart

So that's where it went @lostsock. I knew I didn't put just 11 into the washer.

Infinite Recursion

I pinged your sock @Bart :

http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/270331/1-week-since-joining-and-i-still-have-the-default-lgbt-flag-as-chat-avatar#comment88067_270331

SPArchaeologist

8:55 AM

@Bart already posted int the Den... uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/…

Infinite Recursion

@ChrisF Ok thank you, I'll look for a private email provider that is good for me. — Adam Barak 1 min ago

Jan Dvorak

9:14 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/128390/…

Infinite Recursion

done

Qantas 94 Heavy

poof'

Can someone lend me a hand cleaning up this user's edits? stackoverflow.com/users/3060123/…

I've done the first two pages already but most of this user's edits suck

Infinite Recursion

@Qantas94Heavy Are you doing rollbacks?

Qantas 94 Heavy

@InfiniteRecursion: where necessary

Infinite Recursion

@Qantas94Heavy Ok, I will also clean up, am free now :)

Qantas 94 Heavy

9:25 AM

Up to middle of page 4, I think you should work from the back :)

Infinite Recursion

@Qantas94Heavy Ok, I will start from the end

Qantas 94 Heavy

@InfiniteRecursion: suggestions is a better page, revisions include the user's own edits

Infinite Recursion

@Qantas94Heavy Ok, I will scan the user's suggestions backwards

Sam

(Me thinks Inf is trying to start an "Ok" chain)

2

Infinite Recursion

wonders how does Sam know!

Sam

9:31 AM

<whisper>'Cause I wear glasses.</whisper>

Infinite Recursion

wonders if Sam is a sock too

Sam

no comment

Infinite Recursion

pokes @Unihedron to check if Sam is a sock

Sam

pokes @ProgramFOX to vouch for my non-sockness

ProgramFOX

@Sam Huh? You were my sock, weren't you? :P

Qantas 94 Heavy

9:38 AM

reject-pls stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5669888

rene

success

Jan Dvorak

well, kinda

Sam

@ProgramFOX Oh yeah, I remember now, so that's what those "mind control glasses" do...

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak Why the uncertainity?

Jan Dvorak

there was an approve vote

Andrew T.

9:47 AM

@Qantas94Heavy I was surprised it was rejected... at the very least she separated the LogCat :(

Infinite Recursion

@AndrewT. All issues need to be fixed. And the logcat was fixed in the post by the OP.

Bart

reject-pls: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5669995

Andrew T.

@InfiniteRecursion I... didn't see OP fixed it, he only added. But I take it that there were still many needed to be fixed.

Qantas 94 Heavy

-3

Q: JavaScript function not working after Ajax call

I am trying to call a JavaScript function from a JSP page which is Ajax-called but onclick is not working. Could someone please tell me what should I use in place of onclick?

The comments are crazy

ProgramFOX

Reject-pls stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5670012

Infinite Recursion

9:56 AM

@Qantas94Heavy Please post some code :D

Qantas 94 Heavy

also reject stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5669997

Infinite Recursion

@Qantas94Heavy: During cleanup, I saw that the user keeps adding "thanks" and "please help me" to all posts. Did you flag for mod attention?

Qantas 94 Heavy

@InfiniteRecursion I notified him in a comment, we'll see if that improves things first

@NehaShukla: hi, I've noticed that you've been adding inline code spans (like this) to posts when editing; these are only meant for actual code in sentences. Also, please make sure to fix as many of the issues in a post that you can find -- stuff like "thanks in advance" and "please help" isn't necessary. Thanks! — Qantas 94 Heavy 35 secs ago

anyway, one more cv: stackoverflow.com/questions/24008343/…

Where's the fun when you need it?

Infinite Recursion

@Qantas94Heavy Yes, let's see how it goes.

me how

CVs needed here stackoverflow.com/questions/24523317/…

related to this meta discussion

Jan Dvorak

10:14 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/128396/…

Infinite Recursion

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/23645898/2982225

Qantas 94 Heavy

@InfiniteRecursion just -1, don't bother with close vote

roomba script will now auto-delete the question

SPArchaeologist

YAY! The sacred artifact is now mine!!!!

Qantas 94 Heavy

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/25541073/…

15k should know better

rene

Yeah, CV-ed

Infinite Recursion

10:24 AM

I think the users edits have been cleaned @Qantas94Heavy

Qantas 94 Heavy

:)

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238851/…

gone

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: MECHANIZE FORM SELECTING on stackoverflow.com

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: NEED HELP IN AN INTEGRATION PROBLEM on math.stackexchange.com

SPArchaeologist

11:03 AM

(quietly extends the head outside the Den like a turtle)

(sees nothing funny is happening)

(retracts the head and returns to the Den)

Infinite Recursion

11:22 AM

It's good that you have changed your name @lostsock. Now @Bart won't lose you anymore..

Unihedron

11:51 AM

Just found a person who constantly deletes his own questions..

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron Rage quit?

Unihedron

@Inf: Nope, they're just bad and after I question them about the lack of effort with the autocomment, they just delete it and try again.

Stijn

@Unihedron flag something posted by the user with a moderator flag

Unihedron

Can't, he deleted everything he posted. I suppose he's not too far from a Q-ban. stackoverflow.com/users/3996124/mkam

Here's one of them for the 10k party: stackoverflow.com/q/25605057

Jan Dvorak

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238853/…

Unihedron

12:01 PM

@JanDvorak Ugh, Android people..

Jan Dvorak

should I get an iPhone next?

Unihedron

For your sock? Sure!

Infinite Recursion

Thanks. Excuse me sir. can you paste correct code into post? i dont uderestand me. i'm sorry — TuxWorld 1 min ago

Unihedron

Just when you thought that was a legit question @Inf lol

Vogel612

aaand comment flagged as rude

Sam

12:08 PM

"i dont uderestand me" lol

Jan Dvorak

@Vogel612 the linked one? Not rude.

Infinite Recursion

@Unihedron Yes, I assumed too early, am not going to add any code, they should know about parameter type mismatch :/

Jan Dvorak

cv'd

rene

I like that double lineheight setting...

Unihedron

@JanDvorak Gotcha

Braiam

12:11 PM

> i dont uderestand me

we could not understand you...

Unihedron

> Excuse me sir.

Well played, "sir" :P

Infinite Recursion

@JanDvorak Author removed it :)

SilentKiller

[SPAM] stackoverflow.com/q/25605693/1160282

Doorknob

@SilentKiller That's not spam, it's just VLQ

SilentKiller

full form please. :/

Unihedron

12:22 PM

@Doorknob At least the answer was, and I flagged that

Doorknob

@Unihedron No, it was just gibberish. Gibberish isn't spam.

@SilentKiller Very low quality

Unihedron

Oh, good point though.

SilentKiller

new to these keywords learning to filter. :)

Infinite Recursion

12:34 PM

@Silent: Spam has to be a product promotion, where users try to sell stuff or their software. You can check the spam Jan shares here for better understanding.

Braiam

so

this

not

is

spam?

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam gibberish in low quantities, may Doorknob add.

Unihedron

Mmm, spiced ham.

SilentKiller

@InfiniteRecursion sure buddy. :)

Infinite Recursion

No, please try again @Braiam. Read the help center for more info.

SilentKiller

12:39 PM

@InfiniteRecursion you are killing my name by using only Silent. :(

Infinite Recursion

@Silent: I am NOT your buddy.

PLEASE DO NOT ADDRESS ME AS BUDDY!

Braiam

iHaveacomputer, Down underer

266 1 6

client dropdown flash gui-design internationalisation language lists

Unihedron

@Inf: Can I address you as the awesome person on the Tavern?

rene

Awesome will do

Braiam

Awesome always do

SPArchaeologist

12:47 PM

(rises from the Den abyss once again)

Vogel612

taking mental note to self: It's okay to dislike being addressed as "buddy"

SPArchaeologist

(looks around for any sign of fun)

Infinite Recursion

Yes @Uni :) You are awesome too.

SPArchaeologist

(404 fun not found)

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Vogel612

203 permanently redirected to "Shadow's Den"

SPArchaeologist

12:49 PM

(returning to the Den. Discord is displeased of you boring folks)

Doorknob

cv-plz reject-edit-plz stackoverflow.com/q/25606223/1223693

Infinite Recursion

note to self: first nemesis...now buddy...next is wat? Halp!!

Unihedron

> Thank you for reviewing 20 suggested edits today; come back in 11 hours to continue reviewing.

:(

Vogel612

@InfiniteRecursion how about I call you derecursed?

Unihedron

I want to REVIEEEEW!

SilentKiller

12:53 PM

@InfiniteRecursion ohk i won't

bjb568

undel-pls meta.stackoverflow.com/q/254305/2371861

Unihedron

@bjb568 what's that?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238856/…

Vogel612

down

Unihedron

wrecked

Doorknob

12:55 PM

Nice, 29 seconds

bjb568

@Unihedron My feature-request "I want to review more" deleted by Community♦ Aug 16 at 0:02, +8/-11 votes.

Unihedron

I don't think you can undelete content deleted by a ♦ moderator.

Jan Dvorak

@Unihedron surely you can undelvote

rene

Do you think it will get better received if we undelete it @bjb568?

Braiam

@Unihedron you can undelete post deleted by Community

Unihedron

12:58 PM

Oh I C

rene

> Shrink, I want to review. I mean, I wanna, I wanna review. Review. I wanna, I wanna see, I wanna see blood and gore and guts and veins in my teeth. Eat dead burnt bodies. I mean review, Review, REVIEW, REVIEW. – Shog9♦ Aug 9 at 0:33

Infinite Recursion

What on earth is derecursed @Vogel?

Braiam

13

A: Should questions removed automatically for inactivity really be non-undeletable?

Thanks for suggesting this feature change. I've modified the code so that posts which have been deleted by the Community user can be voted for undeletion. Note that all other moderator-deleted posts will still behave as they do today: you will not be able to vote to undelete them. This will be li...

Sam

@Inf It's probably not from Earth. Look, his dog has green eyes.

Infinite Recursion

Yes @Sam, he needs cool glasses like you

bjb568

1:07 PM

0

Q: Turn off the roomba for child meta sites

Automatic deletion is useful and great on main sites, but on child metas it deletes my negatively voted feature-requests. >:( Can it be turned off for child metas?

feature-request community-user deletion

@rene The point isn't to get it better received, the point is to have it there.

Infinite Recursion

^hovers mouse over the downvote button

Sam

Lol thx. Speaking of which, it looks like blue has eyes on Braiam's shades.

Infinite Recursion

I am not the only one who wanted to downvote your post @bjb :D

I am so tempted to downvote this to see it being roomba'd. — Martijn Pieters 1 min ago

bjb568

Vote it up so I don't need people to review my edits!

Infinite Recursion

0

Q: Should user profile respect SO policies about etiquette?

Important: I don't want to turn this question into a discussion about politic and I don't want to express any judgment or opinion about international stuff. I was reading a question and I decided to take a look to OP's profile. I found his About Me section expresses offensive political opinion...

discussion etiquette profile-page offensive

SmokeDetector

1:25 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Bad keyword detected: GIRL VASHI@@KARAN SPECIALIST baba ji +91-9950211818 on english.stackexchange.com

Infinite Recursion

"Stack overflow is a good facebook type website ".."I am looking for precise answers to precise problems " - meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/270338/…

Doorknob

@SmokeDetector SPAM

Jan Dvorak

gone

Unihedron

Gone before I could flag.

Braiam

@InfiniteRecursion I don't know what meter just explode, just that one of them explode reading those two phrases together

3

lostsock

1:27 PM

It's like these spammers never got an education.

Infinite Recursion

Revised version of "I don't understand me"-

I dont inderestand me sir. can you paste correct way to post? — TuxWorld 9 mins ago

Unihedron

@Inf give that sir a medal :)

Infinite Recursion

Yes, deserves a gold badge on English SE @Uni :)

Unihedron

1:48 PM

I dont underestand me sir. can you paste correct way to post? – TuxWorld 21 mins ago — TuxWorld 2 mins ago

(facedesk)

Infinite Recursion

(facedesk)

rene

(facebook)

Braiam

(handbook)

Doorknob

(footnovel)

rene

The word association game runs in the Den...

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Vogel612

2:10 PM

@InfiniteRecursion simple recursive functions can be derecursed into standard loops... and that's usually impossible with infinite recursion...

best example for that is fibonacci function.

can be written recursive or as for-loop.

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening | DnB / Chillout

bjb568

NAA stackoverflow.com/a/270312/2371861

Infinite Recursion

@Vogel612 ok, I know that as iteration. Often known as recursion v/s iteration

Unihedron

@bjb568 I don't think mods are willing to delete a high upvoted accepted answer that's so old though.

Vogel612

@InfiniteRecursion and derecursed ~= iterative.

it's basically a bad pun on the recursion part of your name ;(

bjb568

2:16 PM

@Unihedron I've never had problems with it having high votes…

Unihedron

lol nvm... evidently the link is gone as well

bjb568

Why bother? Post the link as a comment, flag the answer NAA. — bjb568 2 mins ago

Infinite Recursion

@Vogel: That's the reason I dislike any alternate address like buddy, xyz etc. We have all clearly indicated in our profiles the names we want to be addressed with. It creates confusion ;(

Braiam

@Unihedron just downvote it ;)

... you avoided to answer the question. Are you human? — Jongware yesterday

Sam

2:41 PM

del-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/1951278/jquery-delete-from-table

SPArchaeologist

2:53 PM

@InfiniteRecursion That said, you all can call me Overlord Laharl and I won't mind. Dracula will also suffice.

Bart

We shall call you .... Mary. Yes, Mary will do.

4

Thanks @GnomeSlice

bjb568

@Sam gone

Sam

Thx.

Infinite Recursion

Mary sounds perfect @Bart. @Spa's sense of humor is very feminine, which makes Mary an ideal choice.

SPArchaeologist

@InfiniteRecursion mwhahahahahahahahahahaahaha. Keep thinking so. There must be a reason if my co-workers started to call me Akira Fudo....

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