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Q: Is it acceptable to flag one of your own posts notifying moderators of unreversed suspected serial voting?

The 3 downvotes yesterday in quick succession were not reversed. Were these legitimate downvotes? – bjb568 Aug 14 at 16:54 declined - We don't have any way of knowing. I'd assume that it'd find its way to a developer since normal mods can't see individual votes, but it was just declined. S...

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A: Tag cleanup request: replace [mean] with [mean-stack] when the post is not about the arithmetic mean

I reviewed several of your edits. They are too minor, and you shouldn't be getting +2 reputation for merely robo-adding a tag to posts for the same reason. If there were nothing else wrong with the posts you reviewed, the edits would be fine, but that wasn't the case. For example, look at this ...

20 hours ago, by AstroCB

^ This user keeps doing retags as suggested edits without fixing anything else in the post.

I won't reveal who upvoted your answer...

8:23 PM

Me neither...

I am bummed that some rejectors of the edits said - "This edit introduces spam, defaces the post in some way, or is otherwise inappropriate." I wish that the custom rejection notice had come to me as a message so that I would have noticed that I could do a tag cleanup request earlier. It's really hard to get up the courage to ask a real question around here when you're new. I was trying to participate in a legitimate, helpful way in order to learn more about the site and how it works. I was happy to be gaining reputation points while doing something I thought was helpful. The rejection hurt. — PrairieProf 1 min ago

Yeah, why aren't there edit reject notifs?

@bjb568 there are

Where?

@PrairieProf In retrospect, that was a bit harsh, but this happens a lot: people find a tag that needs cleanup and they see it as an opportunity to farm rep. They will go through every question in the tag and retag it to something else without fixing the rest of the post, gaining +2 rep each time. The problem is less that people do that and more that people in the review queues do not stop them and mindlessly approve these edits without giving feedback. What you were doing is helpful and legitimate, but there are too many people who do not have the same mindset as you and instead... — AstroCB 3 mins ago

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A: Decision on rejected edits should be displayed as a notification to the editor

Kevin implemented this as described below. One rejected edit will produce the following warning: That links back to the last edit that was rejected. If the editor never gets any edits approved, they'll see this every time they go to edit, until they're banned. If some are approved but many are...

...wish to abuse the system for the sole purpose of gaining reputation. At a certain point, we get fed up with dealing with these people and make assumptions of the user's intent because we're so accustomed to seeing people doing this for purposes that are less idyllic than yours. — AstroCB 2 mins ago

@Braiam That's not what @bjb568 meant.

They should be notified at the time that the edit is rejected.

8:29 PM

@Braiam NotANotif.

@AstroCB why?

Exactly. Nobody reaches the threshold for warnings.

> One rejected edit will produce the following warning

only one and you start getting warnings

@Braiam So that they know why the edit was rejected without having to make another one.

@AstroCB the warning appears before they do the other one

8:31 PM

@Braiam Nobody looks at the warning for one.

> ...without having to make another one.

@bjb568 humans wait till they hit to the wall before they start reading warnings

@AstroCB they don't need to submit it to see the warning

@Braiam I mean that they shouldn't even have to start the edit: they should be notified when the edit is rejected.

And the warning has to be more insulting.

@Braiam Can we make a page with a real wall on it? And fire?

8:33 PM

@SantaClaus just post a feature-request... you will get my vote!

@AstroCB that seems too much overhead

@Braiam Why? You're already notified if someone else edits your question, and I think that it's equally (if not more) important to know that your edit was was rejected and why.

@rene I knew you were Shog sock

I didn't know that any of my edits were rejected until I reached 1900 rep or so because I didn't check my edit history and I never got the warning.

@AstroCB because people respond more effectively to positive feedback

@AstroCB how many were? ;)

(btw, I keep tabs of all my suggested edits)

@Braiam Not really - I give little kids presents every year but they still don't eat their vegetables.

8:37 PM

@SantaClaus good point

@Braiam 43 rejected/344 total.

^ A lot of them were editing conflicts, though.

> Braiam had 242 edit suggestions approved, and 26 edit suggestions rejected

15-20

mine still over 10:1

> bjb568 had 61 edit suggestions approved, and 22 edit suggestions rejected

8:38 PM

12.5%

26.5% …

My pcent is higher.

@bjb568 That's not a good thing.

(needs to submit 20 suggestions to bring down that number)

nope

@AstroCB It's higher.

@bjb568 Higher rejection percentage?

8:40 PM

@AstroCB Yeah.

> bjb568 has approved 725 edit suggestions and rejected 802 edit suggestions

That's even better!!

@bjb568 you saying it's higher is like saying that because your latency is higher you will play better WoW

What… you want it taller?

:P

thicker?

> hichris123 had 81 edit suggestions approved, and 6 edit suggestions rejected

Anyone know if there is a web socket feed for the hot questions list?

8:46 PM

@Undo ^

darn, we need to get rid of both @un

wait... maybe.

Looks like a no @Andy:

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Q: How do the Stack Exchange WebSockets work? What are all the options you can send to them?

The Stack Exchange WebSockets are handy for various things (like handling spam). For example, try running this JavaScript in your browser's console: var w = new WebSocket("ws://sockets.ny.stackexchange.com/"); w.onmessage = function(e) { console.log(e) }; w.onopen = function() { w.send("155-ques...

support web-sockets

@hichris123 OK. Thanks. It looks like a couple of the answers on that question have been updated since I last looked too. So, thanks for that too

@Andy Not sure if this is still valid

hot-answers is a no...

bummer.

thanks for that link @rene.

9:04 PM

I edited that answer to indicate that it no longer works. Hot questions seems to be rendered in the html, no live feed, not even on the SE main page...

9:53 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INICIALIZAÇÃO DO LINUX NO RV411 on askubuntu.com

10:09 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/16748550/…

10:21 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/967196/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/22148392/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/25379869/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/3676189/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/18978359/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/11871030/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/4461511/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com

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we need a script that randomly close questions and then feed it to the reopen queue

10:50 PM

@Bart sold another pair of glasses:

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python redis javascript publish-subscribe size code-golf cython

@Braiam around? (or anyone else who can edit a data explorer query for me?)

Should I get into an edit war?

No.

Flag the post for a moderator.

@ɥʇǝS I don't think it's worth even that, actually: the user is quite rude.

Then just leave it shrug.

10:59 PM

@ɥʇǝS That's what I thought.

Rolled back the edit by the moderator, they edited it to remove the Now it seems that I can edit the question: and the following image. — zyboxinternational 1 min ago

^ He thinks I'm a moderator.

many new users get that confused when they find other people can edit things ;)

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@ɥʇǝS no

I'm never sure if I should take that as a yes or a real no..

@Braiam Could you fork the query again so it just targets posts with no answers? I'm interested in seeing what happens.

FWIW I tried doing it myself, but everything (not surprisingly) exploded.

@ɥʇǝS data.stackexchange.com/askubuntu/query/221790

facepalm. I was 3 characters away from getting it right on my own >.<

11:08 PM

is because (and this is how I visualize it) is a query inside another query

is more simple if you only extract the part inside the with candidates as ()

huh, there is a duplicate in there.

Can you be banned from suggesting edits?

lol this was one of my rejected suggested edits. stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3544868

@AstroCB yes, though it's kinda hard.

@hichris123 Alright.

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A: Too many of your edits were rejected, try again in 7 days

I just amended it to take into account your accepts. When deciding on whether we should ban or not, we now look at your last 7 days of activity. If (rejects - (approvals / 3)) >= 5, you will be auto-banned. Note that "rejects" is the count of rejections made by human users/moderators only, rej...

@AstroCB ^

11:17 PM

@hichris123 A simple "I can't use jQuery" would've sufficed.

sees as @hichris123 uses his shinny 2k privileges and impose his will

@Braiam Indeed. :)

@MatthewLundberg Did you read the whole answer? I explained why that specific question was not editable later: it was a two-part question. — AstroCB 32 secs ago

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/q/19646506/2581872

11:39 PM

If you have any close votes left: hit the CV queue! Only 20 minutes left!

I'm back after a nap.

I have close votes, but no more CVQ review tasks..

@Unihedron change your filter

only on SO are hot non-discussion questions that appear on the CB?

this:

> Thank you for reviewing 40 close votes today; come back in 17 minutes to continue reviewing.

11:43 PM

oh

stackoverflow.com/review/low-quality-posts/5667112

Oh wat I wanna delete, did I just push it out of the queue? Ugh.

Qantas 94 Heavy

@bjb568: yeah.

TBF tho, it isn't actually VLQ, a custom flag is the correct thing to do on it.

Edit if you can fix all problems in the post - if a post gets edited, it's done, basically.

soundcloud.com/elennemusic/marshmallow-grove-elenne-remix

Very nice

nsfw artwork for cartoon tits

Qantas 94 Heavy

11:49 PM

@bjb568: that's exactly the same as the accepted answer, is it not?

> You have no more close votes today; come back in 10 minutes.

@Qantas94Heavy Yes. I just "other" flagged it.

Qantas 94 Heavy

No more votes, no more flags, no more close votes :(

This is exactly the same as the accepted answer. Once you have enough reputation, you'll be able to vote up posts you find helpful. — Unihedron 42 secs ago

@Qantas94Heavy Commenting rights... :)

cv stackoverflow.com/q/25292255/2371861

> Thank you for reviewing 20 low quality posts today; come back in 7 minutes to continue reviewing.

> Daily up/down vote limit reached; come back in 7 minutes.

@Unihedron Typo stackoverflow.com/posts/25596881/revisions

^ cv

@Unihedron pile on flags

@GnomeSlice where are my tits?

11:54 PM

@Braiam artwork of the soundcloud thing I linked

@GnomeSlice not seeing them... so ok

@Braiam this

ummm.... too small, nobody cares

Yay, someone upvoted something of mine

I'd get banned for posting the image, so people care.

11:57 PM

@GeoffDalgas /review doesn't subtract the number of reopen reviews done from those available.

^ caching

But it works fine for edits.

Caching

But it works fine for LQRQ.

Caching

11:59 PM

@bjb568 shouldiblamecaching.com.

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