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Unihedron

4:00 PM

@GnomeSlice Wow! First minute already blew my mind!

GnomeSlice

xyce is awesome

TGMCians

status-closed

GnomeSlice

Any vector artists in here?

hichris123

@Unihedron you're here, right?

Unihedron

@hichris123 I'm out of close votes.

GnomeSlice

4:03 PM

It's not even noon...

Unihedron

It's midnight here.

hichris123

@Unihedron lol, why do you assume that I'm asking for close votes? :P

Actually, it's a regex question.

GnomeSlice

@Unihedron Go to bed!

Unihedron

@hichris123 Impressions can be misleading :)

Feel free to ask!

ProgramFOX

@Unihedron In regex, does \\d{8,1o} mean something? That is in the code of SmokeDetector, but we don't know whether that o means something or whether it is a typo.

Unihedron

4:04 PM

@GnomeSlice I should, school's starting tomorrow as well, but I'm enjoying the music.

Jan Dvorak

@ProgramFOX I guess it's meant to be a zero?

Unihedron

It matches a digit, then {8,1o} character sequence. Likely a typo, because the quantifier is {8,10} instead.

ProgramFOX

Yea, we weren't sure whether it was a typo, so we asked you :)

Unihedron

In regex, { and } are literal characters if not bound to being a quantifier. :) So it's likely a typo.

bjb568

Is it base 36? :O

ProgramFOX

4:06 PM

I've tested it and the regex works fine if I replace the o with a 0 @hichris123.

So that's why it didn't catch that spam question.

Unihedron

@ProgramFOX @hichris123 regex101.com/r/fY1lF4/1

gtg…

@bjb568 seeYa!

@bjb568 See you!

@ProgramFOX Blame Manish: github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/commit/….

ProgramFOX

4:07 PM

@Unihedron Oh, it matches that literally now...

hichris123

Feel free to commit & fix @ProgramFOX.

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 b00

Unihedron

@ProgramFOX The first section is your regex, which matches the literal sequence, the other part is what it should have been.

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 Yea, will do.

Unihedron

Good work! Catch more spam!

TGMCians

4:08 PM

thanks Uni :)

Unihedron

Anytime!

TGMCians

you made Jan life more easy :)

Unihedron

Any bit easier is good! :D

Jan Dvorak

I still have to flag that... :-)

TGMCians

yeah so you don't want to do anything manually ... want to keep monitoring what it's going how it's going :D

ProgramFOX

4:11 PM

@hichris123 github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/pull/12

hichris123

@ProgramFOX You know you can directly commit now, right? ;)

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 I cannot; none of the repos is shared with the team "Developers", to which I belong.

hichris123

status-fixing

This should keep you occupied while you're waiting (GH stats for SmokeDetector):

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 Thanks!

hichris123

SmokeDetector

4:13 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SCCM 2012 WINDOWS DEPLOYMNET CONFIGURATION on serverfault.com

hichris123

@ProgramFOX fixed.

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 "chat.stackoverflow.com" Does SmokeDetector run on SO too?

@hichris123 Thanks again!

hichris123

@ProgramFOX Not that I know of...

@ProgramFOX np. :) New repos to the Charcoal GH organization might not give you write access... if so just ping one of us to fix it.

Doorknob

@hichris123 ... wait, Facebook? O_o

hichris123

@Doorknob ikr?

ProgramFOX

4:17 PM

@hichris123 Yep, will do.

hichris123

in Python on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 23 at 3:35, by davidism

https://github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector

Braiam

@hichris123 mm.... where's that page?

hichris123

in Python on Stack Overflow Chat, Aug 6 at 10:55, by Ffisegydd

@tristan while you're playing with your bot both this and this may be of interest to you.

Unihedron

Is it true that I can fork the code and compile my own SmokeDetector?

hichris123

@Braiam github.com/Charcoal-SE/SmokeDetector/graphs/traffic but I think it's only for collaborators (i.e. you have write access).

@Unihedron Yep.

ProgramFOX

4:19 PM

@Braiam It's the "Traffic" page, only visible if you have write access.

Unihedron

I'm on the contributors' page! :D

hichris123

lolwut?

yesterday, by Infinite Recursion

That was so sane @Bart, I can't believe you said it !

Braiam

@ProgramFOX I have write access to other repos -_-

hichris123

... why is this a referring link to SmokeDetector?

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 That doesn't link to SD, does it?

Doorknob

4:21 PM

@hichris123 Somebody clicked it in the starwall, then clicked the SD link below it

(probably)

Unihedron

@hichris123 Potential for anything; everything can happen

hichris123

@Doorknob hmm... weird.

@ProgramFOX Not unless every time you ping @Bart it links to SmokeDetector. :P

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ProgramFOX

I misunderstood your message; I thought you were referring to the oneboxed link, not the the Traffic page...

hichris123

ah.

Doorknob

@hichris123 No, it does link to SD. When you click that message link, you get redirected to a transcript page which contains a SmokeDetector link.

2

Braiam

4:24 PM

Unihedron

@Braiam What's that for?

hichris123

@Doorknob Oh! So it doesn't say that the transcript is the referrer, rather, it's just the page you were on when you clicked the link.

gottit.

Braiam

@Unihedron second referrer is a hint?

Unihedron

@Braiam What's all man gas reader there for?

Braiam

@Unihedron ....

animuson

4:28 PM

I was hoping it'd be sold to Cats.

hichris123

@animuson But... but... bunnies are amazing!

Jan Dvorak

Bunnies remember their owner across generations!

Bye for now, then!

See you!

bye

4:36 PM

Would have been funnier if the item sold were some sort of garlic emoticon.

Jan Dvorak

4:49 PM

SPAM superuser.com/questions/805482/…

hichris123

@JanDvorak That question is taking forever to load for me.

Jan Dvorak

retry

hichris123

nuked

SPAM: superuser.com/questions/805457/…

SPAM: superuser.com/questions/714856/…

NAA: superuser.com/a/805469/283737

TGMCians

brb

hichris123

nuked all of those

Doorknob

4:56 PM

The account's destroyed

hichris123

lol, SU has a ton of NAA's.

0

A: How to change password or add new username/password in xmapp.users?

The password ist hashed and i**ot tells us how add a password and get its hash key! Searching for 20 minutes now.

NAA?

Jan Dvorak

likely

ProgramFOX

Yay! I have the first Popular Question badge on Moderators.SE!

Braiam

mmm patents.stackexchange.com/q/10157/7747

hichris123

lol

0

Q: Re: "Ventura" Hair brush / Paddle Wings

My name is George Alan Lins Patricio And I need to get a copy of a patent pending / provisional patent of : "Ventura" Hair brush / Paddle Wings. It's been about 5 years, and I need to introduce Creative Commons on line license. I don't really need patent number for online CC Creative Commons ...

patent-pending

Cole Johnson

5:05 PM

What do we do with questions asking "what does this do and why?" stackoverflow.com/questions/25594113/…

Braiam

naa superuser.com/a/80431/235569

Cole Johnson

@Braiam I wouldn't be surprised if that's a Microsoft rep

Jan Dvorak

@ColeJohnson you don't always have to close them

Cole Johnson

@JanDvorak I know, it's just instinctive with all the crap

Jan Dvorak

do as usual: downvote if kinda crappy, unclear what you know, too broad (I guess)...

Braiam

5:15 PM

@ColeJohnson that seems specific enough

a good example of how such questions should be asked

Cole Johnson

@Braiam I agree, but we need to draw a line somewhere

Cole Johnson

@hichris123

> I figure electronic digitize numbers

@JanDvorak <hr />

Doorknob

─────────────────────────────────────────

^ an actual line

Jan Dvorak

s/actual/solid/

Cole Johnson

@JanDvorak s/s\/actual\/solid/meh

Braiam

5:24 PM

@ColeJohnson syntax error

hichris123

@ColeJohnson ?

Cole Johnson

@Braiam how?

@hichris123

Just want to get that patent number — George Alan yesterday

hichris123

ah.

Cole Johnson

Probably should've included the link

Braiam

@ColeJohnson trailing / missing

Cole Johnson

5:35 PM

@Braiam -_-

Why has no one made a native iOS/Android app for Tavern?

Doorknob

@ColeJohnson I've actually been working on a SE chat app for Android, but the networking keeps going wonky on me. :P

hichris123

@ColeJohnson Well... there is:

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Q: ChatSEy - An Android App for SE Chat

Screenshot About Completely overhauled styles, including default and dark themes Reply to, star and flag messages Slide-out Sidebar for easy menu/star list access Tweaks to make typing easier (including Return -> Send, @username completion) The app works by injecting extra CSS and JS i...

app android chat

@Doorknob Oh, post it on GH.

Doorknob

@hichris123 Alright, I'm eating lunch soon, but I will after that

hichris123

I can help @Doorknob.

@Doorknob Oh, Studio or Eclipse? ;)

Doorknob

Thanks :) This happens to be my first Android app, but the problem really seems to be with logging into chat, which isn't too related to Android itself. (I'm basically doing the exact same thing as ChatExchange and Chatty, so... :/)

@hichris123 Eclipse.

Infinite Recursion

5:42 PM

@Bart Thanks :)

hichris123

@Doorknob WAAA! USE STUDIO OR ELSE.

:P

Doorknob

@hichris123 Oooh it's a fancy Android-sponsored thing? Interesting. I never really like Eclipse anyway, maybe I'll give that a try :P

ok, time to eat. I'll be back soon and post the code on Github

hichris123

@Doorknob Yup. Main Android development (from the Google team) is going into Studio. It's based off of IntelliJ.

@Doorknob k, cya.

ProgramFOX

@hichris123 When I started doing Android stuff, I used Android Studio, but I switched to Eclipse because the Android tutorials demonstrated a change with pre-generated code in Eclipse. This code was entirely different than the code in Android Studio and that really confused me :P

Bart

Say @animuson, should I ask for a comment cleanup here: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/270275/488657 ?

Cole Johnson

5:52 PM

@hichris123 well, that's nice, but I don't have android. I just mentioned it because having both is nice

Bart

8 hours ago, by Bart

I'm subtle like that :)

@InfiniteRecursion ^^

Infinite Recursion

I remember, your subtlety is at the root of that comment thread @Bart, which now needs a cleanup.

Bart

Perhaps subtlety is the root of all evil

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Infinite Recursion

If only the two glasses had let go of the scare-quotes....

hichris123

@ProgramFOX It's a bit different. The pregenerated files are different, but everything else is the same.

Bart

5:55 PM

@InfiniteRecursion Then we would have been left with an answer that doesn't say what I want it to say. The horror!

Infinite Recursion

@ProgramFox: Studio uses a gradle build structure, you can easily convert a project from the eclipse directory structure and import into studio.

@Bart: Agreed. I choose silence :|

The Wobbuffet

6:12 PM

IT IS TERRIBOL

What happened to Lorem Pizza?!?!?!

Jan Dvorak

I ate it

The Wobbuffet

@TimPost I've been WAITING. My stuff was supposedly shipped two weeks before summer started, but then I was told it was shipped like a month ago :P

Jan Dvorak

@TheWobbuffet backwards extrapolation based on the package orbital trajectory?

The Wobbuffet

@JanDvorak What does that mean?

Braiam

@TheWobbuffet That nobody has a freaking idea

The Wobbuffet

6:22 PM

Yaaaay :P

Jan Dvorak

@TheWobbuffet as in, they shoot a rocket towards you, then calculate backwards (assuming zero air drag and thrust) when it originally left the surface of Earth?

The Wobbuffet

@JanDvorak I think I kind of get it

Braiam

@JanDvorak stop playing KSP

Jan Dvorak

KLQ meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238828/… (kinda low quality)

@Braiam Just watching a series

Doorknob

@JanDvorak ghjkl ghjkl

Braiam

6:27 PM

why did Community bumped this one? meta.stackexchange.com/posts/232405/timeline

Jan Dvorak

offensive math.stackexchange.com/questions/915156/proof-of-god-version-2

that guy has no concept of "on-topic"

that's actually correct. People are merely downvoting when they should be flagging as offensive. — Jan Dvorak 15 secs ago

gone

I was engaging with the downvoters

tmb;dr (too much bold; didn't read) — Jan Dvorak 10 secs ago

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offensive math.stackexchange.com/questions/915161/…

gone

Infinite Recursion

6:45 PM

He/she seems really angry. Shouldn't someone block/suspend/nuke that account?

Cole Johnson

Can someone with 10k screenshot and send to gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com

Bart

After a couple of posts he'll be stopped automatically anyway @InfiniteRecursion.

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion gotta work with what we have

Cole Johnson

@Braiam why not?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/66757/…

AstroCB

6:49 PM

...

:D Mr. James ....

Thanks @Jan, @Bart

also got a spam self-answer

Braiam

@JanDvorak how the heck that could be self-answered? (cc @TimPost)

Jan Dvorak

6:50 PM

@Braiam why not?

Bart

^^^^ that

Braiam

@JanDvorak why yes?

@ColeJohnson ?

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam if you're worried about the 8-hour waiting period, that's already gone

Braiam

@JanDvorak great!

Jan Dvorak

offensive math.stackexchange.com/questions/915170/…

Braiam

6:52 PM

@JanDvorak is not offensive...

Cole Johnson

> fine sorry i say allahuakbar an get angry an call you homosexual an atheist. sorry. can you now explain why my proof wrong or right please. AND this time DONT DOWNVOTE or DLETE

Bart

then throw in a VLQ

Jan Dvorak

still VLQ

Braiam

unless "allahuakbar" is offensive

@Bart you are so slow....

Cole Johnson

Did it before you said it @Bart

Is it wrong that when I see "allahuakbar", I think of Star Wars?

Infinite Recursion

6:53 PM

@InfiniteRecursion I am calm. u explain now? — proofofgod 51 secs ago

Bart

Wait, he's calling us stupid f.... sigh ...

Jan Dvorak

his second comment was offensive, though

rene

It might be interestimg if he can prove Bart is wrong...

Cole Johnson

@MJD yes it math question. it about proof. proof = math dumbass — proofofgod 46 secs ago

rene

I voted for leave open...

Cole Johnson

6:55 PM

Unless your proof includes axioms, it's not math. — Cole Johnson 40 secs ago

Braiam

@ColeJohnson wat axioms — proofofgod 15 secs ago

...

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238830/…

in the meantime, the webapps spam is gone

Cole Johnson

@Braiam sury, mistiped atumz

What's with all this spam all of a sudden? That what Spam Exchange was for!

Bart

@Bart yes it on topic. i keep posting n nothing u can do. — proofofgod 20 secs ago

:D

Braiam

anyone thinks that a honey-pot Q&A would be useful?

Bart

6:57 PM

Add actual honey and I'm in.

Infinite Recursion

I calmed him a bit, again he got infuriated @Bart :(

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam how would you trap spammers but not regular users?

Bart

There's no calming trolls @InfiniteRecursion.

Braiam

@JanDvorak who said I don't want to trap regular users ;)?

AstroCB

Do my eyes deceive me?

hichris123

6:59 PM

@JanDvorak nuked

AstroCB

5

Braiam

@AstroCB SOCKS! SOCKS I SAY! cough GLASSES! GLASSES I SAY!

2

Infinite Recursion

@Bart:^^More glassists!!

Bart

@AstroCB soooooooo late chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/1045641#1045641

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 he managed to threat the site with a bot, though

AstroCB

7:00 PM

Aug 8 '12 at 13:43, by Bart

Though since his profile says "Sorry, I don't do chat." you should not be confused.

hichris123

@JanDvorak ?

Bart

@AstroCB He has a point

Infinite Recursion

His typos and his anger won't let him write any decent code @Jan

2

hichris123

I do wonder... are we all socks of @Bart?

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 "if you delete, I'll repost. I have a bot for that" (paraphrasing, obviously)

Bart

7:02 PM

@hichris123 Nah, Shog.

Jan Dvorak

meta spam gone, btw

offensive math.stackexchange.com/questions/915179/…

time to teach my bot some arabic

gone

Bart

"ALLAHU AKHBAR. now everyone think you terrorist haha" ... yeah ... that's how it works ...

Jan Dvorak

nothing can beat a human spam detector except in terms of endurance, though

or processing speed

hichris123

@JanDvorak account nuked

Jan Dvorak

inb4 sock

(I don't mean @bart's socks ATM, BTW)

Bart

7:07 PM

Here we go again: math.stackexchange.com/questions/915184/…

Braiam

@Bart offensive

AstroCB

1

Q: Retag [splash] questions with the [splash-screen] tag

When asking a (very) recent question, I noticed that splash and splash-screen exist, but mean exactly the same thing: Surely the splash tag could easily be confused with another software development-related thing, like an SDK. I'm requesting that the splash be merged into the (far more popula...

discussion retag-request

Braiam

@hichris123 mmm... no

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam ikr

Bart

@Braiam ?

Braiam

7:08 PM

@JanDvorak nop

@Bart yes

Jan Dvorak

@Bart gone

no replacement yet

is "terrorist" a swearword, BTW?

Infinite Recursion

No

Bart

observing the newest questions in a separate tab ... I sometimes wonder if people like that know how sizeable the community is that fights them.

Jan Dvorak

BRB

hichris123

@Braiam Yeah, it was.

Braiam

7:11 PM

@Bart sometimes, specially late sunday... are specially difficult for the community to ward off stuff like that

I had twice almost spent my 100 flags in a single wave

hichris123

Next one is dead too.

@Braiam any accounts still living that you know of?

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 negative as of yet

hichris123

math.stackexchange.com/users/172948/proofofgod - same name...

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 5 minutes until it blooms

hichris123

@JanDvorak yeah, probably.

Infinite Recursion

7:15 PM

Flowers bloom, not spam accounts :/

Jan Dvorak

engage, pretending I haven't noticed his name?

Infinite Recursion

Ok, lets go and say hi

Jan Dvorak

I guess I shouldn't ask him to change his name?

Braiam

he asked some question... math.stackexchange.com/q/915190/84870 nothing inflammatory

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam Looking at it, and looking at the activity feed

Braiam

7:18 PM

tester needed meta.stackexchange.com/questions/238771/…

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam ninja edit window over now

Braiam

considering the lack of typos, I would say that a mod told him how to ask an appropriated question

Jan Dvorak

offensive math.stackexchange.com/questions/915198/…

Braiam

@JanDvorak gone

hichris123

@JanDvorak dead

Jan Dvorak

7:21 PM

gone

Braiam

:L

hichris123

Mods are watching.

Jan Dvorak

I was thinking about asking his offensive account about his normal question.

his normal question was nuked en-route

hichris123

It was probably just cover for the spammy thing.

@JanDvorak Yeah, destroy does that.

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 I thought that only worked within accounts?

Infinite Recursion

7:24 PM

It was a nonsense question. He seemed confused about continuous functions and convolution matrix concepts. No great loss for the site.

Jan Dvorak

You could explain him the concept of interpolation

I do agree that that's not really useful for further transformations

Bart

Maybe he suffers from question-Tourette's. For every decent question he accidentally shouts out a couple of offensive ones.

Infinite Recursion

Offensive questions along with a lot of abusive comments. He abused almost every commentor except me.

Jan Dvorak

too bad the socket doesn't tell us how or by whom a question got modified

bjb568

@InfiniteRecursion Oh, you're his sock?

hichris123

7:29 PM

@JanDvorak hmm?

Jan Dvorak

@hichris123 that normal question was from an unregistered account

Infinite Recursion

Jan monitors socket data to study spam perhaps.

hichris123

@JanDvorak Oh, delete/destroy works on all accounts. Unregistered and registered.

Infinite Recursion

No @bjb, not his sock. Just my lucky day. He was polite to me.

Bart

No people, no! You star my comments. You don't flag them!

But what's the problem?

Doorknob

7:33 PM

Woah, I come back and see a flag in the Tavern! That's new.

(why is that flagged anyway?)

bjb568

Whoa! What was flagged?

Bart

@Doorknob, given my flag history I won't comment on the flag.

Infinite Recursion

Golden moment!!

hichris123

Mar 3 at 21:46, by Bart

But, but, they're all nice and colourful @hichris123. Surely that brings some cheer to those who I flag?

Bart

:D

hichris123

7:34 PM

@Bart Lemme guess... your sock "misclicked"?

6

(remember that one time... :P)

Bart

1 min ago, by Bart

@Doorknob, given my flag history I won't comment on the flag.

Jan Dvorak

Evil is the root of all subtlety...

Bart

Are you becoming my nemesis @InfiniteRecursion, is that it? ;)

Infinite Recursion

Nemesis. No!! I am learning to keep silent to restore the harmony of the ecosystem @Bart.

Bart

Harmony .... haha ... hahahahaha ... HAHAHAHAHA

ahem.

Infinite Recursion

7:39 PM

ahem.

ahem.

ahem.

ahem.

Most asthmatic train ever

Jan Dvorak

@Bart ... has just hit a brick wall

DoorknobChatbot

7:41 PM

ahem.

Infinite Recursion

Jan is your nemesis @Bart

DoorknobChatbot

(aww)

Jan Dvorak

@InfiniteRecursion wat?

Bart

@InfiniteRecursion nah, not even close.

I could use a good nemesis though. It has been a while.

Infinite Recursion

You mean to say that I am close? o_O

Nah...am a glassist. I avoid GLASSES!!

Jan, you have known Bart the longest as far as I could see in the history of the tavern. Most ideal Nemesis candidate wrt @Bart :)

Jan Dvorak

7:49 PM

dat guy again math.stackexchange.com/questions/915214/…

gone

Infinite Recursion

So fast

Jan Dvorak

TIL the word "heathen"

cv-pls superuser.com/questions/805531/…

bjb568

The 3 downvotes yesterday in quick succession were not reversed. Were these legitimate downvotes? – bjb568 Aug 14 at 16:54 declined - We don't have any way of knowing.

Jan Dvorak

Why did I just get an already visited question in the newest questions feed?

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