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bjb568

12:52 AM

OT is an invalid abbr. On topic or off topic? — bjb568 8 secs ago

hichris123

@bjb568 I think I edited that correctly.

bjb568

@hichris123 reject > invalid edit

hichris123

I made an educated guess. :P

bjb568

cv stackoverflow.com/q/25375848/2371861

cv stackoverflow.com/q/25392812/2371861

tchrist

1:10 AM

@bjb568 I believe that question to be autological.

@hichris123 ’Twould a truly queer sense of we were it so, since it would have to be some exotic sense of we-inclusive that includes neither the person speaking nor the one being spoken to. I am not sure that either Japanese (which has “interesting” flavors of we) has it nor Nahuatl even, a language renowned for its fourth-person pronouns and demonstratives.

Perhaps that is the magisterial we, but probably it is meant to be a way using the impersonal one.

hichris123

@tchrist Well, it was referring to we as in the collective Stack Overflow community. However, that doesn't make sense as I'm a mod (so I don't complain about myself), and you... probably don't complain about mods? I'm not sure what the correct way to word that would be, as "they" seems to general but there's no other good collective noun. "the complainers?"

tchrist

@hichris123 I would say they, probably.

AstroCB

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5578869

tchrist

No, of course I don’t complain about mods. That would be stupid. Volunteer work is a noble cause, and yours is a horribly hard job, one which I am perhaps one of these possible people cut out for doing. I pay the garbagemen a heavy hefty sum, not because I think them better or worse than myself, but because they have consented to performing a task that I would not myself willing do.

Ok, if a mod were to have psychotic break, which is not altogether unheard of merely unspoken of, I might complain. But I would so by sending personal mail to a Community Manager.

bjb568

@tchrist Every time somebody uses big words a kitten squeaks in pain.

tchrist

1:23 AM

@bjb568 I HAVE NOT USED ANY “BIG WORDS”!!!!

I know big words, and those are not they.

Jamal

Prisencolinensinainciusol

tchrist

I merely converse in my natural register, without resort to a thesaurus nor consulting an English-to-Simpleton translator for posting to simple.wikipedia.org.

If it would be a thing that you would like, I can talk in words that use just one beat each, and in which it is rare to find one that comes to us from Rome.

AstroCB

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5578882

hichris123

I removed the bounty - GEOFF DALGAS WILL NEVER GET THAT BOUNTY :) — Jarrod Dixon ♦ Aug 14 at 3:53

DAMN YOUU!!!!!! — Geoff Dalgas ♦ Aug 14 at 3:55

lol

tchrist

And at some risk of well-earned roasts, I could even set in verse each post.

Shog9

1:30 AM

@tchrist, dude, you need to swing by Denver in Oct - I wanna know if you actually talk like that.

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tchrist

Though masculine rhymes flow like fluid from pen, but the feminine ones are a joy — now and then.

@Shog9 Is there something happening in Denver in October? A by-convention of some sort? I thought the Pride Parade was in June or July. Or is this the SE Proud-n-Strong convention?

I have many registers at my command: were it not so, would I not have told you?

bjb568

cv stackoverflow.com/q/25313138/2371861

tchrist

Little known fact: Kirk McKusick, famed for so many things BSD, did his PhD thesis on register allocation. From this he learned that the wise will always choose something they aren’t really interested in, since long ere their defence is presented, they shall have so sickened of the matter as to never wish to see anything about it again.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: HOW INSERT SELECT WITH DIFFERENT VALUES? on stackoverflow.com

bjb568

@SmokeDetector flagged

tchrist

1:38 AM

@bjb568 This is that you-can-only-be-a-virgin-thrice thing, right?

bjb568

@tchrist Thrice what?

tchrist

Once, twice, three times a virgin — but that’s all she wrote. After that, you run out of lacunae, but not locura.

bjb568

OSX's built in dictionary is starting to fail…

Braiam

WELP! @tchrist broke @bjb568

tchrist

@bjb568 My most appropriate&penetrating comment for contemplation during vespers, which are now come upon us, is that every human being is born having not one but three virginities. How each should choose to spend those at age thirteen or to guard them close against one’s bosom till the Last Day will vary, but of the number three there can be no doubt. Any other answer will each its uttered the epithet of Láthspell and he shall be perforce banished to the Valley of Death That No Shadow Hath.

Braiam

1:51 AM

oh, I got it, tchrist has a Shakespearean-complex

bjb568

Un(human|unicorn|pony|turtle|kitten)

tchrist

@bjb568 If you would your mettle in these matters, then this brief game will put you to the test if not the sword, and it shall further the science it probes to world a better place.

It is for science.

We have non-native speakers whose scores have exceeded those of native speakers.

in English Language & Usage on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Jul 27 '12 at 14:11, by RegDwight АΑA

Several members of the ELU community have taken a vocabulary test and the results ranged between 14,400 and 42,300 words for native speakers, and between 25,000 and 34,400 words for non-native ones. The variance was large enough to render any average number utterly useless.

The highest figure there cited is from Don Robusto.

As it would be immodest of me to point out that said figures were compiled previous to my own assay, I shall not do so.

It is interesting that the lower bound on the natives is far lower than that of the pineapples. One theory is that low-esteem — well, micro-vocabularian — pineapples refuse the test outright.

@Braiam None of the references in the post superjacent to your own were to Shakespeare.

Braiam

@tchrist because non-natives has two sets of vocabularies, not one

tchrist

No, it only tests English vocabulary.

And we have non-natives who score higher than many natives.

Braiam

non-natives can infer the meaning of words using their native language

tchrist

2:00 AM

@Braiam Good luck with that: the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Braiam

I'm one, I know words in english that I don't in spanish

(spanish being my native language)

apart of the fact that people that try to learn other languages, have higher inclination to wider naturally their vocabulary

@tchrist the funny part is that they don't need to be

tchrist

Pues, sí, te admito que esas voces sí existen también, pero el castellano sí te ayuda en ello, de ahi que saqué yo una cifra muy alta.

bjb568

14,500 words.

My kitten brain in still developing.

tchrist

@bjb568 Ah, progammer, right? :)

j/k

bjb568

:P

Braiam

2:03 AM

@tchrist "sacué" sounds like a regionalism, if it's well written

tchrist

!Vaya orthografía más jodida!

Braiam

ah, Spain

tchrist

@Braiam Lo he corregido antes de que me dijeses todo eso.

Braiam

@tchrist tuve que leer varias veces para estar seguro

but I'm certain you are Spanish or Argentinian

tchrist

@Braiam ¿Se nota? ¿De verdad? ¿Cómo te has dado cuenta de esto? Intenté evitar las cosas que suelen anunciarlo.

Braiam

2:07 AM

only two things "voces" and "jodidas"

tchrist

Ah.

Braiam

apart of how you structure your sentences

tchrist

Jodido te lo doy :), pero una voz es el término culto que se usa para cualquier vocablo como los que se encuentran en un diccionario.

De todos modos, y dado todo lo dicho, seguramente no queda razón alguno que te impida probar la prueba ya dada. Y en el caso de que no te salga una cifra muy elevada, siempre puedes quedarte mudo — por si las moscas, y para que no te mosquean ellas.

Algunas frases las hay que resisten traducirse, y la última arriba es una.

Salga como saliere, será interesante.

Y desde luego, ese saliere allí arriba no tiene nada que ver con el famosísimo italiano, Antonio Salieri. :)

Como habrás visto, no hace falta que mi habla sea en inglés para escaparme lo gracioso, si no ya precioco. :)

Or para que me escape lo gracioso, come quieras.

*que no te mosqueen

¡Joder machos, fijaos en que (y como) he matado vuestra charla! Ojalá que me perdonéis. :)

Y sí, con esa última frase, sale todo lo demás. Lo sé, y lo hice sabiéndolo.

So we are done with the Shakespearian accusations, n’est-ce pas?

Parce que sinon, il y a toujours d’autres langues dans lesquelle on pourrait parler agréablement.

I have small jest in relation to all this.

It requires a certain je-ne-sais-quoi zu verstehen.

1 of 3: ¿Como se llama una persona que habla tres idiomas o más?

Políglota.

Braiam

2:35 AM

@tchrist In any case, and after everything I've said, there isn't any reason that prevents you from taking the test. In the case that you don't get high score, you just can keep it to yourself — since a shut mouth catches no flies

tchrist

2 of 3: Qu’est-ce que c’est une personne qui parle dos lenguas?

Braiam

@tchrist and the lack of ~~beer~~ sleep plus the grid like presentation is nightmarish

so, I'm just keeping the tab open for another day

tchrist

Bilingue

3 of 3: And what do you call someone who speaks but one language?

American

*c’est qu’une

Still, the joke is a good one.

Pity that it should be so lost on those who need it most.

@Braiam So yes, being a polyglot is of great help in taking the test, perhaps more help than would be being a polymath.

bjb568

vsftpd doesn't respond, halp

tchrist

@bjb568 What manner of thing would you be holpen with?

Or, as it is more commonly phrased, What have you tried? :)

bjb568

2:42 AM

@tchrist Banging on the keyboard.

tchrist

@bjb568 With fingers, hand-heels, or head?

bjb568

@tchrist All of the above.

tchrist

Mechanical Turk, here we come!

Braiam

2:56 AM

> Now I don't know what to do next and how to use the database or Sql.

PKM!!!!!!!!!!!!

tchrist

@Braiam imprime TLA_to_English("PKM")

Shog9

@tchrist something like that. See if you can make it to Denver between the 20th and 24th.

tchrist

Should be rather easy.

Shog9

@bjb568 xkcd oneboxes. Every time you post a cartoon without oneboxing, Jim Davis kills Garfield.

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tchrist

$job is remote dev.

Braiam

2:58 AM

Ok, let me rephrase the question: what's your goal installing Oracle XE 11g? — Braiam 24 secs ago

Shog9

@tchrist well, ping me if you make it - I'll buy you a drink of choice.

tchrist

Okey dokey smokey.

Ta.

Meanwhile, we must probe Bryan’s stalwart steed ere the night is done.

@Braiam O jinete mío, tú con jaca valerosa y aceitunas en tu alfora, ¿cuándo llegarás a Córdoba, lejana y sola, bajo esta luna roja? ¿Sabes los caminos? ¿Y quién es el que (o major dicho, la que) te está mirando desde sus torres lejanas?

Braiam

@Shog9 is there a way that tags composed of just numbers and dots can only be created by moderators? ref: meta.askubuntu.com/q/11813/169736

tchrist

Oh yeah, I am dying for a 127.1 tag.

Braiam

apparently there is a thing to prevent user from creating synonyms (which I was hitting here despite the fact that none of the tags involved were version specific: [cpu-architecture] and [64-bits]/[32-bits]) but apparently there isn't for tag creation

Shog9

3:07 AM

@Braiam probably. Why?

Braiam

@Shog9 those tags breed like rabbits, and people keeps creating them for the most unuseful reasons which in turn can create bizarre combinations that only hurts the site

Shog9

@Braiam so why do you want more of them?

Braiam

@Shog9 I want less

Shog9

ok

well

Braiam

actually I don't want them anywhere meta.unix.stackexchange.com/q/3102/41104

Shog9

3:14 AM

post a [feature-request] on meta

totally fine with banning numeric tags entirely, but whether that's practical depends on the site

bjb568

@Shog There's all these site options. How are they set? Could I have a screenshot? Just curious…

user163250

@tchrist 3.1416 is a personal favorite of mine.

user163250

3:34 AM

Anyone know what's the max rep that you can earn from making suggested edits?

Braiam

@Cupcake 1000

user163250

@Braiam thanks

Braiam

3:51 AM

oh, great and mighty @Shog9, here a mere user offer you this feature request post as offering to calm your rage

bjb568

I'm going to bed. 'Night!

Brad Larson

4:28 AM

Who's in charge of the Smoke Detector? Undo? I forget.

user163250

@BradLarson I don't remember either.

user163250

@Undo chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/2328651#2328651

Brad Larson

It would be great if whoever's in charge could add "recovery toolbox" to the phrases it picks up on. We've had an incredibly persistent group of spammers who create fake questions with one account, then answer them with spam for their tools. They vary the URLs and use URL shorteners, so we can't blacklist them, but they're crapping the place up with off topic questions and spam.

2

Reviewers are approving many of these answers, and arguing with our review bans because they claim the spam answers address the question asked. I'd like to have a little more attentive group catch these and flag them so we can destroy the posts and accounts.

2

Example answers:

Braiam

@BradLarson who review the questions?

user163250

@Braiam robo-reviewers don't review questions :P

Braiam

4:34 AM

oh, btw, spam meta.stackexchange.com/q/238280/213575

Brad Larson

Gotta go, but if you see off topic questions about Outlook, corrupt RAR files, converting AutoCAD documents, etc. on SO being asked by 1-rep first time users and being immediately answered by another new user speaking highly of a product, please use a custom flag to let us know about it. That lets me pull at a loose thread and unravel the rest of the spam accounts in a group.

user163250

@BradLarson gotcha, will do!

Braiam

expect this one stackoverflow.com/users/3958724/winrar

user163250

@Braiam ha

user163250

@Braiam now you've got me continually refreshing his profile waiting for him to post spam :P

Braiam

4:43 AM

btw, spam in mse