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Lol. From youtube: "I don't know why you'd assume that I was breaking the convention of replying to the most recent of the comments in the group denoted by the name mention, but in any case both posts deal with semantics. You pointed out that "it" (the concept of irrationally trusting information) was called \"faith\", an unnecessary off-topic comment as their was no question as to what the concept is called.

Again, you have made an incorrect assumption. Tho one of +<poster is="op" perceived-intelligence="medium-high" /> main points is that acceptance of other people's beliefs and actions …

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Santa Claus

2:52 AM

Can anyone give me some advice on how I could improve this question stackoverflow.com/questions/18392902/…

bjb568

3:08 AM

@SantaClaus Minimal code to reproduce. If not reproducible, file a bug report or something - it's not right for SO.

Try rubber ducking.

Try rebuilding your project adding things file by file.

What version of Xcode? Is it the same for other versions?

Make sure there isn't a previous post on the internet about it.

SmokeDetector

3:20 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ATTITUDE TOWARD RISK TAKING AND THE EXPONENTIAL UTILITY FUNCTION on math.stackexchange.com

Jan Dvorak

5:54 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237183/…

also, morning!

bjb568

Well, night!

Jan Dvorak

@bjb568 that is a paradoxical thot indeed. But the language is medium-high.

animuson

6:47 AM

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U.S. Army

Proposed Q&A site for soldiers to ask questions about best practices for accomplishing their career goals. They may also ask about how regulations and policies may apply to their situation.

Currently in definition.

Heh, wouldn't a better place to ask your question just be the army?

Jan Dvorak

Not if you want the information to be publicly available

TGMCians

7:00 AM

morning

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/237184/solid-muscle-tips

Jan Dvorak

7:36 AM

meta.stackexchange.com/help/badges/160/marshal?userid=194047 </brag>

SmokeDetector

8:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: GET LOG WHEN NATIVE CAMERA IS OPEN IN ANDROID on stackoverflow.com

user202362

9:38 AM

came back safely ... but with more bruises

rene

@chmod711telkitty healthy outdoor activities?

user202362

Not sure it's strictly an 'outdoor' activity ... if you are climbing up & down cave systems. Did some adventure caving stuff this weekend

rene

10:03 AM

That sounds adventurous...if not dangerous...

I've done that once, a long time ago. On one narrow passage if you went in on your belly the only way to get out on the other side was to break your back...

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user202362

10:19 AM

yeah a lot of climbing up and downs, sometimes on the ropes, sometimes squeezing through long narrow passages

rene

Sounds as a good excercise to get rid indefinitely of claustrophobia....

Jan Dvorak

or to contract claustrophobia

rene

Whatever you prefer. Both is on offer...

user202362

I wasn't afraid of the darkness, but the cave that we went down today was very deep, multiple people have warned us of the foul air beforehand - too much carbon dioxide and too little oxygen. But it was okay for us as we did not go to the very bottom (did like only 85% of the whole cave)

rene

How was that cave formed? Was it an underground river or due to volcanic activity?

user202362

10:36 AM

no idea ... it is this one, apparently easy for adventure cavers ...

user202362

Bungonia Caves

Bungonia Caves is the name given to a series of caves near the city of Goulburn, New South Wales Australia. == Overview == The caves are sited within the Bungonia State Recreation Area (SRA) adjoining the Morton National Park, about 35 kilometres (22 mi) east of Goulburn and about 125 kilometres (78 mi) south-west of Sydney. The caves are formed in limestone at the southern extremity of the Sydney basin, a broad expanse of New South Wales between this point, the city of Newcastle in the north, the town of Lithgow to the west and the Pacific Ocean to the east. The caves are precipitous in ...

user202362

yesterday was 20 metres up the rope ...

rene

You have enough caves left by the look of it...

user202362

yeah only 2 out of possible 14 caves

Sumurai8

11:23 AM

Hello beings

TGMCians

o/

Sumurai8

\o

GnomeSlice

11:45 AM

Today's Listening | Electronic / Dubstep / Glitch Hop

@Bart

Sumurai8

*wonders if @chmod711telkitty carries around a canary if they are caving, or if those are only present in old mining stories.

user202362

use canary to test the air? we use matches for that nowadays :p

user202362

but yes, one of us did have a lighter

Sumurai8

cool :P

rene

12:11 PM

If it explodes you know there is enough oxygen...

Vote to Close

12:54 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/660206/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: THE COMFORT WHICH ONE HATH OF HER HUSBAND on english.stackexchange.com

Sumurai8

@VotetoClose closed

Vote to Close

1:57 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/6673936/parsing-json-using-c

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/2473028/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/12408718/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/14867132/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/4910034/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/433729/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/13563376/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/24503200/…

above questions are at risk for expiring close votes, please help close them before it's too late!

Vote to Close

2:15 PM

anyone know why @bjb568 profile wasn't linked here?

Sumurai8

I suppose because his? account was merged with an other account and the original user id no longer exists

ProgramFOX

in Shadow's Den, 22 hours ago, by bjb568

That's because of the borked login system - I got merged somehow into 2371861.

^ Might be the reason.

Vote to Close

Oh yea, most likely. That sucks.

Sumurai8

3:19 PM

patiently waiting for a question to reopen

Sumurai8

3:32 PM

I fear it is not going to happen :(

hichris123

@Sumurai8 link?

Sumurai8

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Q: Algorithm to mix any list of string (array)

I need to find out what is the best algorithm to generate a list of all combinations of an array in php. Here is an example : Input : 1, 2, 3 Then the output will be Output : 1, 2, 3, 11, 12, 13, 21, 22, 23, 31, 32, 33, 111, 112, 113, 121, 123 ... until 333. This question is different from ...

bjb568

@Sumurai8 boop

Sumurai8

I wonder if it didn't get pushed into the review queue again when I edited it, or if all reviewers didn't bother to read either the question or the comments.

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: ABOUT PLUGIN INTENSEDEBATE FOR WORDPRESS AND BLOGGER on stackoverflow.com

bjb568

3:44 PM

@SmokeDetector -1, CV as unclear.

Sumurai8

Gave it the same judgement bjb

Sumurai8

4:15 PM

Is there any documentation on what should be in tag wikis and what shouldn't be?

Braiam

4:29 PM

@Sumurai8 technically yes, practically no

some examples meta.stackexchange.com/q/120586/213575

Bart

@GnomeSlice Thanks

Sumurai8

4:53 PM

stackoverflow.com/posts/7401671/revisions <-- how does this improve the post? :S

Besides that the edit is necromancing at it's finest too.

Bart

@Sumurai8 It's minimal, but I can't say I wouldn't have done it if I stumbled upon it

Sumurai8

Puting phrases on seperate lines does not improve a post. Butchering the grammar does not improve it. ("I am using google app engine(GAE) in on the server side and I am using objective-C for my iphone application." is worse than "I am using google app engine and i am using objective-C for my iphone application."). The only actual improvement is that iphone is now spelled iPhone.

hrmmm; it seems that I am the only person that rejected the edit. I hate such edits. Unless they only address things that are actually wrong it is only ground for edit-warring with the OP of the post.

Bart

Myeah, that last sentence is not an improvement

SmokeDetector

6:01 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CALCULUS OF VARIATIONS PROBLEM on math.stackexchange.com

user213963

6:14 PM

Could I get some offensive flags on programmers.stackexchange.com/a/251365/40980 ?

ProgramFOX

Flagged.

Braiam

one more to go

Jamal

Nope, now one more. Someone downvoted it.

user213963

its gone. Thank you.

Jamal

PEW PEW PEW

rene

6:18 PM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/24978401/…

Braiam

6:32 PM

@rene link only question...

rene

Yeah, we don't have a flag for that, do we?

hichris123

@rene 'Unclear what you're asking' 'Why isn't this code working....'

rene

@hichris123 Unclear what you're linking...

hichris123

lol

Braiam

status-planned

Jamal

6:43 PM

@hichris123 We could really benefit from a new network-wide close reason: "Nope"

Braiam

@Jamal s/Nope/OP is beyond salvation/

rene

That could be the initial state of almost any question of a new user

Braiam

@rene hey! My first question wasn't so bad...

Jamal

I remember one SO question about the OP suffering a bike accident and wanting some medical advice. The question was tagged as [code-injection] and [medical]. I laughed my ass off.

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rene

@Braiam I was not referring to current users....

;)

Braiam

6:49 PM

@Jamal the amount of stars is equivalent to the amount of people laughing their ass of

hichris123

@Jamal The medical tag actually exists... sigh

Jamal

@hichris123 I forget: did someone take a screenshot of that question?

Braiam

this is too broad right? stackoverflow.com/q/3653811/792066

same with almost any medical tagged question, another one stackoverflow.com/q/1520257/792066

hichris123

@Jamal which?

Braiam

> I wanted to know if anybody had knowledge of a project using X in a foo or bar?

^ opinion based/too broad?

hichris123

6:52 PM

The medical one, @Jamal?

Jamal

@hichris123 Yeah, about the bike accident.

hichris123

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rene

7:10 PM

If the script reverses serial downvoting is the user that did that mod messaged?

hichris123

@rene no.

Not unless there's manual moderator intervention.

Braiam

@rene only if it's recurrent and the vote fraud pick it up

rene

OK

I've no idea on which toes I stepped this time...

Braiam

> "This document provides a tutorial on accessing a DBus service using the Perl Net::DBus application bindings. Sadly it is not yet written." ... excellent tutorial. - 12h ago by derobert

O_O

hichris123

7:43 PM

Anyone up for burning the [sonatype] tag? (it refers to a company)

bjb568

Burn.

hichris123

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5402802 sigh

animuson

Finished going through tag wikis and removing logos.

bjb568

"Added new tags for better reach of questions and for proper audience!" Edit summary misleading and too cheerful. Rejecting as vandalism.

hichris123

@animuson Good. You can burn this now: stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/sonatype

Braiam

7:47 PM

@hichris123 Y U NO FIX TITLE?

bjb568

Please don't approve minor or invalid…

animuson

@hichris123 He's blocked from suggesting edits for a week now.

hichris123

@animuson good.

Jamal

@animuson Has he seriously not suggested a single non-tag-only edit?

rene

8:04 PM

Is the chat-rate limit per room or per site?

tchrist

Have the rules for the expiration of close votes changed?

Braiam

@rene server, IMO

tchrist

I find questions whose close-votes have expired despite those questions having far fewer than 100 views. Is this a bug?

animuson

@tchrist Well, if they go through review and it ends in a Leave Open result, aging starts immediately regardless of views.

tchrist

@animuson Ahah! Yes, that is indeed it.

Thanks.

Hm, unclear what I think about that.

rene

8:07 PM

@Braiam physical or logical? So are chat.stackexchange and chat.meta.stackexchange 2 servers

animuson

Dad: "You need to go wash your car." - Me: "Go for it." - Dad: "I just washed all the bird turds off of it." - Me: "Well why didn't you finish the job?"

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tchrist

@Jamal With a tag-only suggested edit, I often edit it myself to do what the tag-edit-suggester guy forgot — there’s virtually always a way to improve a post’s body or title. If I do, I accept his edit but do not give him the +2 helpful part.

I don’t leave a message explaining that though. I’m hoping whoever he is he’ll get the hint that he didn’t do enough. But if I’m lazy, sometimes I just reject a tag-only edit.

rene

Dad: "Take your suitcase and enjoy the rest of your life"

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tchrist

@rene What, you don’t know? :)

chthon% dig chat.meta.stackexchange.com

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bjb568

Rene doesn't know? :O

tchrist

8:14 PM

It’s a CNAME.

animuson

@rene Actually they're planning to move to Colorado and probably will leave me the house.

rene

@animuson Hmm, do you like that?

tchrist

@animuson Usually easier than bringing their house with them. Especially if the Continental Divide lies between here and there.

Braiam

@animuson kingdom of your own, huh

Jan Dvorak

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/4708455/…

tchrist

8:17 PM

Although I have seen pieces of a double-wide trying to negotiate the Eisenhower or Johnson tunnels, it is not a pretty picture.

animuson

@Braiam You know it. There will be monkeys! LOTS OF MONKEYS!

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bjb568

@bjb568 ok — minitech ♦ 3 mins ago

rene

@tchrist but isn't that only the entry point on the LB? Can still be two servers behind it. I'm not throttled on the external IP I guess given the throtle graph....

bjb568

^2 What's ok?

tchrist

@rene I suppose with NAT and virtual servers, all things are possible. Perhaps more importantly, they traceroute rather differently.

Look at the tails.

Although I don’t know how much to trust traceroute in the face of NAT, they do seem to terminate at a different place using a different number of hops.

@animuson In a V-formation or kettling?

Vote to Close

8:29 PM

i don't understand how the crowds don't interfere more with the bikers on tour

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/926880/…

Jan Dvorak

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/4708455/…

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/12587964/medical-images-editor

Braiam

@hichris123 just... how did that managed to survive...

btw, since it's downvoted the thing will be deleted

hichris123

@Braiam true.

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/8161414/…

(answer is also NAA)

Braiam

8:44 PM

@hichris123 will get deleted

hichris123

That works too, @animuson. ;P

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/8131269/…

Jan Dvorak

grepping 'medical'?

Braiam

is this on topic? stackoverflow.com/q/24982608/792066

hichris123

@JanDvorak no, just related questions mostly...

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/11984308/…

Jan Dvorak

@Braiam my guess is no

Braiam

8:47 PM

Mr. King of Monkey, please migrate :D

hichris123

burn-with-fire stackoverflow.com/questions/9090782/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/9784840/…

animuson

Oooo likes keyboard shortcuts

Braiam

crap, I forgot bout those

hichris123

@animuson now cat on keyboard will turn out in destroy all users on SO

Jan Dvorak

leaves all nuking to @ani

(night)

hichris123

8:51 PM

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/24799472/…

umc24↵umd

@JanDvorak night

@JanDvorak night

@JanDvorak night

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/4678178/style-guide-for-c

animuson

8:51 PM

@JanDvorak Good luck getting to bed with all of us pinging you.

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hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/1511343/c-image-recognition-library

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/930980/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/9727579/…

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/739613/image-recognition-library

animuson

One second intervals: stackoverflow.com/posts/14874971/revisions

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/9459180/…

@animuson huh?

animuson

Deleted one second after being closed.

Can't do that with clicking!

hichris123

ah. :D

@animuson Well, you still haven't closed the backlog that I've posted ^^^. :P

Jan Dvorak

8:56 PM

I'm seeing 53/55

hichris123

Someone just put this out of its misery: stackoverflow.com/questions/9459180/…

Braiam

@JanDvorak animuson: you are lagging

Jan Dvorak

that's more than one second difference

hichris123

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/6708853/…

Jamal

9:48 PM

too-broad stackoverflow.com/questions/24985951/…

nyuszika7h

I have a problem

I logged in to Data.SE with my Google account and apparently I'm called "jon.doe15292"

I found this meta.stackexchange.com/questions/110820/… but not sure what should I do, comment there or ask a new question?

Braiam

@nyuszika7h the name is generic for any new account, you need to change it

nyuszika7h

but I already have an old account there ("Nyuszika7H")

I think that uses my old Launchpad login which I can no longer access because that email address doesn't exist

Braiam

@TimStone ^

nyuszika7h

10:05 PM

in other news, I just looked at my flag history

looking at 2011 me makes me feel weird

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: THIS COMPUTER MEMEORY HAS 0 BYTE DISK SPACE REMAINING on askubuntu.com

Shadow Wizard

10:38 PM

@nyuszika7h SEDE doesn't have multiple logins or automatic association so I fear you'll have to use the new account.

Since there's no rep in there, no big deal :)

user2284570

11:31 PM

Hello, any ideas for this, or were is the right chat room to talk about it?

Jamal

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/4337959/…

...or not quite?

user2284570

@Jamal off-topic "Questions asking us to recommend or find a tool, library or favorite off-site resource are off-topic for Stack Overflow as they tend to attract opinionated answers and spam. Instead, describe the problem and what has been done so far to solve it."

Jamal

I flagged it anyway, but was a tag hesitant since the answers don't seem to be complete crap.

user2284570

11:52 PM

@0x7fffffff Sorry I thought such questions should be posted at Stack Overflow (since it more an SQL error question asking for code because of a descirbed error than a question about the result of a query). On the Data Explorer site, I saw (some mounth) I can ask such question on Stack Overflow with the DataExplorertag. Have you locked at the tag? Most questions are like this and some are mines with exactly the same purpose.

Please don't approve minor or invalid…

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