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user163250

12:15 AM

@AnnaLear it's official, I heard it from Stack Exchange staff: there are stupid questions. They do exist! Now I can finally sleep at night, knowing that it wasn't all in my head...

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Anna Lear

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ManishBot

12:59 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INTEGRAL OF A PRODUCT OF FUNCTIONS AND PRODUCT OF THEIR INTEGRALS on math.stackexchange.com

user202362

2:16 AM

@TimPost That could be the case, although that's you should always dive with a dive buddy & each regulator have 2 mouth pieces just in case one fails. Real adventure caving could be dangerous too - by real I mean visit the cave system that very few people have been to. Someone once told me they went down to a cave in which there were not enough oxygen. Also it's usually pitch black in the cave system, and path is not straight, there are a lot of climbing ups and downs, squeezes etc.

user163250

cv-pls recommendation stackoverflow.com/questions/7503552/php-real-time-chat

user202362

So if you got lost in a large cave system, you ran out of battery, it could be quite dangerous. Especially so since the communication system might not be working deep in a caving system.

Vote to Close

2:43 AM

@Cupcake you will be even more amazed with this huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/11/…

user163250

@VotetoClose meh, I thought my video was more interesting.

user163250

By the way, Sir Vote to Close...

user163250

cv-pls needs more info stackoverflow.com/questions/24079640/…

Vote to Close

3:02 AM

I'm confused why this query was made by a mod - data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/207274/… I thought SO's position was that you shouldn't delete any posts. And this query is basically saying that you should delete every answer that has score of -1 or worse that isn't an accepted answer.

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/393267/…

user163250

cv-pls recommendation stackoverflow.com/questions/24079640/…

user163250

@VotetoClose I already voted on that one a while back :/

Vote to Close

i already voted on ^ a very little while back

@Cupcake cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/10033688/…

user163250

3:35 AM

Are we back yet?

user163250

Hurray!

user163250

@VotetoClose CLOSED

user163250

With my Hammer of Justice >:D

Vote to Close

ty , nice hammer

user163250

3:41 AM

Wow...

user163250

0

Q: Recovering from a fake resume?

I'm currently working as a contractor as a software engineer for a technology firm for the past 3 months for which I have faked my resume. This happened due to some unavoidable circumstances, so please don't be judgmental about this. I understand that this is very unethical and I had sleepless ni...

user163250

wtf?

user163250

That guy is so fucked if anyone finds out who he is.

user163250

Is chat still up?

user163250

Oh, I guess so.

user163250

3:43 AM

They were doing chat maintenance, but it looks like the main exchange sites are undergoing maintenance too.

user163250

Failover complete.

Tweeted by StackStatus on July 10, 2014 at 3:43 AM

user163250

Let's see about that...

user163250

Ah, confirmed, it's good to be back.

user163250

Software developers are always talking about work schedules and hours:

user163250

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Q: How do you decide when to go home for the day?

As a software developer, I've worked in a few environments where I've been told "we don't have 9-5 hours here, we just expect you to get your work done". Which sounds idealistic, except that when I ask about how late in the afternoon I should stay, I get told "go home whenever your work is done"...

work-time

Jan Dvorak

4:19 AM

SPAM bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/28409/…

hichris123

@AnnaLear Now you have to block Russian ^^. ;p

user163250

4:43 AM

We don't have enough ludicrously high-rep users in this chat.

user163250

I need someone to be my sugar daddy or momma and add a bounty to some of the Git questions with my answers on them.

user163250

So I can get a Mjolnir faster.

user163250

I suppose this is my greatest work yet:

user163250

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A: What does tree-ish mean in Git?

The Short Answer (TL;DR) "Tree-ish" is a term that refers to any identifier (as specified in the Git revisions documentation) that ultimately leads to a (sub)directory tree (Git refers to directories as "trees" and "tree objects"). In the original poster's case, foo is a directory that he wants...

user163250

74 more upvotes to go.

user163250

4:45 AM

Make it happen :P

random

After spending time in the git tagged, you'd be looking like one of those rare user who would rather close the duplicates as such instead of reposting the same answer across dozens of questions

user163250

@random I want to close all teh things :P

user163250

5:02 AM

random

You don't make gold fast if you want to help clean the site

Tim Post

@FinalContest Depends on the comment, was it easily mistaken for snark / tongue-in-cheek expression, or have a rude / abrasive tone to it? Then yeah. Also, wrong buttons are sometimes stupidly easy to hit.

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/123025/…

random

Sex toy spam

Jan Dvorak

5:22 AM

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/123027/…

user163250

5:38 AM

I've been noticing that when I use the long-form url for a post in another post, it doesn't automatically get anchor text from the title of that post added. This is a recent thing. Did something change that I missed? I'm wondering if it's on my end with cookies or something.

user163250

By the way @TimPost, I don't remember if you're the guy who handles these or not, but you might want to have a lawyer send a DMCA in the direction of these guys:

user163250

1

Q: Found a website that is using Stack Overflow content without proper attribution

When searching for help, I come across this site: http://ask.make-money-article.com/que/24320346 Surely this must not be good for anyone. It copies Stack Overflow content without proper attribution (e.g. a link back to Stack Overflow): This is the question on Stack Overflow that is being u...

discussion legal copycat-sites

Tim Post

@Cupcake We don't generally send out DMCA requests, but we do try to bring them into compliance.

user163250

That makes sense.

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/123030/…

random

5:46 AM

@Cupcake Where do you see that?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/123031/…

Final Contest

6:15 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/24573111/…

@TimPost: someone wrote an off-topic comment afterwards as a reply, and everything was removed as the outcome, including the non-off-topic comment, too.

MRS1367

6:32 AM

Hi

hw can I create or suggest a new proposal for new subject?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236338/…

Final Contest

@MRS1367: what do you mean by new subject?

Shadow Wizard

@MRS1367 if you mean new feature for existing Stack Exchange site, MSE is the place and tag it with feature-request. If you mean propose new site, area51.stackexchange.com is what you need.

MRS1367

@ShadowWizard -> I want to propose a new site

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/123042/…

MRS1367

6:48 AM

I know that I must go area51.stackexchange.com to propose new site

but I don't know how can I do it in there

should I create a new question in there and describe my ideas about what I think?

Shadow Wizard

@MRS1367 go to area51.stackexchange.com → Choose a category e.g. Culture → See existing proposals → If does not exist, scroll to the bottom and click the "Propose a new Culture site" link e.g. area51.stackexchange.com/proposals/create?category=culture

But please plan carefully what you want to propose and make sure to define it well and add good sample questions

MRS1367

@ShadowWizard -> tnx

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236339/if-greece-were-language

rene

7:29 AM

cv-pls-dup stackoverflow.com/questions/24660654/csv-file-import-to-django (dup target: stackoverflow.com/questions/2459979/…)

Oh...and good morning everyone...

Shadow Wizard

morning!

Jan Dvorak

7:47 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236341/…

Tim Post

@FinalContest Ah, that happens sometimes. When a whole thread just deteriorates into noise moderators can purge all comments, then selectively restore certain ones that still have lasting value. However, comments are second class citizens, and we don't expect them to spend a lot of time on them, so ... sometimes comments get deleted. If you feel that there needs to be a bit of information below the post that can't simply be edited into the post, you can leave another comment.

Vote to Close

8:02 AM

@Cupcake Did you not read this part due to some unavoidable circumstances

user163250

@VotetoClose without more details from the OP, I can only assume that the circumstances were either avoidable or irrelevant.

user163250

@random in the text area when you're editing posts...well, I mean, in the preview area underneath the text area.

Vote to Close

lol, yea.. reminds me of the question where the guy asked how he and his coworkers can still watch porn while at work since a new company bought them and was going to install filters, and he said , "don't say just don't watch porn at work, that is not an option!"

SPArchaeologist

Morning everypony!

Vote to Close

Morning cupcakes!

Shadow Wizard

8:08 AM

Morning everyone!

ProgramFOX

Morning foxes!

Shadow Wizard

Combo breaker! @Cupcake you're right, you found a bug, links are not parsed anymore as they used to.

The honor is all yours, submit a report on MSE :)

Vote to Close

hmm.. if you retract a close vote, aren't you suppose to get that close vote back so you can use it elsewhere? I just voted to close a question with 1 cv remaining for the day, then retracted it, but still showing 0 cv's left.

rene

@AnnaLear One final question: On SO the rev is now 2014.7.10.1696 and on meta 2014.7.10.2360. Those seem to be on different branches. In that answer only having the meta revision is not enough because the bug-fix could only be verified by me on a specific revision on SO. Or is there an unseen correlation?

Shadow Wizard

8:24 AM

@VotetoClose nope, I think it's by design to prevent users gaming this.

Vote to Close

@ShadowWizard damnit, i just committed SO SIN #2 - Do not waste close votes.

Shadow Wizard

I feel your pain, @VotetoClose but at least you didn't commit SIN #1

Vote to Close

@ShadowWizard I already have commited SIN #1 though, - Do not question Mods

Stijn

@ShadowWizard I think I'm gonna stop putting bounties on MSE questions. So far only one got looked at by the team, and that's after a few other people had put additional bounties after me. All others have gone ignored/not received feedback.

user163250

OMFG.

user163250

8:37 AM

I was in the middle of writing a huge bug report for the links thing on MSE.

user163250

To test if it applied to both answers and questions, I clicked self-answer and posted a link to try it out.

user163250

As expected, it didn't work in an answer either, so I clicked on Discard draft, and it ended up nuking the question too, not just the answer! T_T

user163250

FML.

Stijn

@Cupcake :D

user163250

Unexpected behavior.

user163250

8:39 AM

I guess that should become another feature request...or a bug.

user163250

:P

Vote to Close

@Stijn I probably won't stop offering, but yea, I've offered like 7 now and I don't think ever heard back from the team.

@Stijn At least looking at your bounty page, it looks like you've had some success at hearing back .. I show 6 status-* tags

SPArchaeologist

Speaking of cupcakes - @Cupcake, Derpy was here before to deliver a letter.... She asked if you had ever considered changing your name to "Muffin"... ^_^

Shadow Wizard

@Cupcake don't push the Red Button :)

@Stijn MSE rep is meant for this, unless of course you prefer to keep it in order to help moderate the site. But yeah, totally agree it's frustrating.

Stijn

@VotetoClose I also put bounties on things that got declined in the past, but yeah looks like a few did get completed. It's 5 unique questions though, on one I spent 2 bounties.

user163250

8:46 AM

@SPArchaeologist are there any differences between cupcakes and muffins? Are they both really just the same on the inside, even though they have different names on the outside? Oh yeah, besides the frosting on top too :P

Stijn

@ShadowWizard yeah it is meant for that, and I don't care about paying rep, but it's mostly like talking to a wall.

SPArchaeologist

Well, we never saw Derpy eating a cupcake :P (the "baked bads" couldn't be considered cupcakes. In fact, they shouldn't even be considered eatable in the first place).

Bart

@Stijn I've had great conversations with walls though. Even though they usually win the arguments.

Shadow Wizard

@Stijn if you feel strongly about something (e.g. bug or feature request you feel really need attention) you can always contact a CM directly. I do it with Anna sometimes and so far it appears to not bother her too much.

Jon Clements

@Bart they cheat playing tennis....

Vote to Close

8:51 AM

@Cupcake you just gave me a multi-billion dollar idea, thanks

Bart

Absolutely @JonClements. Being all like "I didn't move" ...

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236343/…

Shadow Wizard

Bart: Move.
Wall: ...
Bart: Move!
Wall: ...
Bart: Move or I'll smite you down!
Wall: ...
{loud crash}

Jon Clements

@ShadowWizard with such a beautiful rendition - I feel like I was there in person... :)

Vote to Close

The more angry you get at the wall the harder the wall hits back

user202362

9:02 AM

unless you use a hammer

user163250

@ShadowWizard it's just in the preview for posts, it looks like it's still being converted on submission.

user163250

It's supposed to be in the preview too though, isn't it?

Bart

SO is down?

Ooh, SE is down?

Vote to Close

not for me

user163250

A few hours ago, yes.

user163250

9:09 AM

But not now, now for me either.

Bart

Ah, it's back

Hmm, temporary glitch I guess

Vote to Close

@Bart That's ok. It's good to have practice drills for these types of disasters.

Bart

@VotetoClose I stopped, dropped and rolled ...

user163250

This guy looks like he needs someone to save him:

user163250

-6

Q: Undeserved down-votes

I recently began programming and I realize Stack Overflow is an invaluable resource. I have read the rules and try my best to solve a problem on my own before asking a question. However I realize this site is extremely hostile to newcomers. I say this because the first two questions that I asked...

feature-request

user163250

9:18 AM

I'll start by getting rid of the (presumptive?) title...

user163250

On second thought...

user163250

He really is requesting a feature.

user163250

Should probably just start over and ask a new Meta question.

SPArchaeologist

@Cupcake Isn't the answer "They can, they will and they are entitled to downvote you because of ." (yep, the phrase ends there)?

Shadow Wizard

@Cupcake yeah, preview should show it too and used to show it

user163250

9:24 AM

@ShadowWizard OK, thanks for confirming that I'm not crazy again.

user163250

Well, too crazy.

user163250

Rather than making this poorly defined and articulated feature request, you might want to consider asking a brand new question to discuss why your questions were downvoted, and whether the questions need any improvement or not. — Cupcake 1 min ago

Bart

@Cupcake Myeah, a bit too late now it seems. :(

Stijn

9:41 AM

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/265187/… Well that's an annoying side effect, closing it as unclear rejected the migration.

user163250

@Stijn would closing it as a duplicate count as a rejection?

user163250

Oh well, nuked by BoltClock stackoverflow.com/questions/24672816/…

user163250

Hopefully he'll get the idea to actually post his question on MSO this time.

user163250

Where we'll promptly close it as a duplicate :P

user163250

And then probably nuke it again in a few days :P :P

user163250

9:45 AM

@nyuszika7h FYI, BEST WEBSITE EVER

user163250

nyuszika7h.github.io

nyuszika7h

haha

user163250

I dig the music.

user163250

"I, just want to tell you how I'm feeling, oooooooooh..."

nyuszika7h

some days ago I got an email from a random person

"thanks for that unexpected rickroll, really needed it"

user163250

9:48 AM

Everyone needs a nice little unexpected surprise once in a while.

user202362

keyword is 'nice'

user202362

I can do nice unexpected surprises all day long! :D

Jon Clements

@Bart That's what you happen when you destroy the support wall! Bad Bart!

Bart

All I care about is the star wall @JonClements ;)

And I can't believe you guys let that happen ---->

Jon Clements

Huh.... I'm innocent!

Stijn

10:05 AM

@Bart your power here is fading!

Bart

10:18 AM

Grooveshark has great recommendations "Because you listened to {artists} and {artist}" ...

Jon Clements

@Bart my favourite track :)

Bart

{track} from {artist} really gets me going in the morning

Though I don't like {album} all that much

Jon Clements

Unknown Artist - Unknown Album - Track 4 is a favourite as well...

Jan Dvorak

10:37 AM

SPAM, or at least not a question patents.stackexchange.com/questions/9846/…

POB programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/249474/…

Bart

11:31 AM

"voluntarily removed by its author." ... nooooooooooooooo

Final Contest

so what if Brazil takes revenge against Holland and wins 7:1? xD

Stijn

@FinalContest they won't, they're too busy with crying

Bart

Most stupid match of the tournament anyway. Who wants to see them play for 3rd and 4th?

Final Contest

11:51 AM

what a pointless edit again: stackoverflow.com/posts/24675122/revisions

R.J

cv-asking-tutorials : stackoverflow.com/q/24675798/2024761 and its parent stackoverflow.com/q/2091959/2024761

Final Contest

3

A: Any JCAPS tutorials?

Take a look at the following links: Java CAPS Wiki Grok Java CAPS Sun Java CAPS Screencast Tutorials Sun Java CAPS Samples Differences between Java CAPS 6 and OpenESB Java CAPS / Open ESB Flexibility and Versioning

lol @ 3 upvotes

R.J

@FinalContest - He has the power to do it and that's why did it. I guess he hasn't seen the part of Spiderman movie where they say, "With great power, comes great responsibilities" ;)

Final Contest

well, I downvoted the answer, and flagged

I do not care about the upvotes.

of course, someone will press "Looks good" seeing +2.

This is not a good answer with today's rules, I am afraid. To make it clear: avoid links-only answers. Most of the links are broken already. — Final Contest 3 mins ago

with +2, of course I could not press low-quality ....

Bart

Given the question asked, how would you avoid link-only answers? Just close the question. Problem solved.

Final Contest

11:58 AM

Write an inline tutorial?

Stijn

It's been nuked

Final Contest

good, Bill burnt it

@Bart: are you seriously claiming 5 links broken out of the 6 link-jungle should remain? :D

Braiam

@FinalContest BOOM!

is Bill out there?!

Final Contest

@Braiam: I highlighted him!

Bart

@FinalContest No I'm not. You're just wasting time and effort by focussing on it.

Final Contest

11:59 AM

@Bart: eh?

how is cleaning up an answer with 5 broken links out of the 6 link-jungle waste of time? Are you saying moderation is waste of time? It is one of those clear-cut crap.

Bart

Invited by ....

Braiam

@FinalContest I presume Bart is saying that you should only get the question deleted

Final Contest

12:27 PM

@Braiam: I do not necessarily agree with that. If other OPs get two days to improve, I wonder why this OP could not get.

and if the OP improves, the answer remains crap anyhow.

also, you cannot vote on deletion without closure, and sometimes it is hard to get something closed, let alone deleted.

and to be fair, it is only three clicks to downvote and flag anyhow, so if you are there, you "lose" about a couple of seconds to make sure the crap is deleted. That is well worth of my time.

user202362

I really hate the site when you check out the cart - it says 'free shipping', but when you fill in the address, it adds $20

user202362

like ... this would trick more people into buying?

Final Contest

@chmod711telkitty: you have not seen "you are lucky" yet.

:D

user202362

I am sure I have ...

user202362

or it could be worse still - "you are lucky, you only have to pay $20 for the shipping!"

Final Contest

12:34 PM

well, I got a popup that I am the Xth visitor, but they packed it very smartly.

until they claimed 1 GBP only for on Android tablet worth of 80-100 GBP

and they requested the bank account details :-)

but until that point I almost believed the packaging.

user202362

@_@

Braiam

normally I have to pay more for the shipping than what I'm buying

user202362

that sucks ...

user202362

I have no problem paying $20 for the shipping if I really want the goods, but I would like the seller to be up front with it

Shadow Wizard

12:56 PM

@Braiam some sellers on eBay offer free shipping worldwide though it's rare. Also some chinese sites offer free shipping but you know, China.

Final Contest

cv-pls-cannot-reproduce stackoverflow.com/q/24676720/2682142

FC: I do not see the use of making a simple signal/slot example that will compile (the original code has a few hundreds connections that work fine). — FPEX 14 secs ago

yeah, right, good luck ...

GnomeSlice

re-view.emmet.io

Jan Dvorak

1:20 PM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236349/…

Where is @ManishBot? I have to go...

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak no bad keyword in there as far as I can see

GnomeSlice

1:42 PM

Today's Listening | EDM / Electro / Dubstep

@Bart

For some reason those are uploaded in reverse order

If you care about such things

Shadow Wizard

one minute kill, good! meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236352/…

Bart

@GnomeSlice sounds good

Braiam

@GnomeSlice /me likes

Shadow Wizard

2:19 PM

plz-reject-vandalism meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/29602

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard does meta have robot infestation?

Braiam

:2181219 you need 5k to reject tag wiki/excerpt edits

Stijn

@Braiam yeah I had a brainfart

Braiam

runs away

Shadow Wizard

@Braiam right, but the error message is confusing so I don't blame @Stijn

Braiam

2:22 PM

blames @Stijn brainfart so @ShadowWizard can be happy

Shadow Wizard

Not robot @Jan, just troll or spammer who also attacked SO stackoverflow.com/users/3815945/user2626?tab=activity

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard he can't review, though

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak he can suggest edits on MSE, got 2 more before he's auto banned and he'll most likely attack again within 5 days on Stack Overflow.

Stijn

3:41 PM

cv-pls-library-rec stackoverflow.com/questions/24679898/…

Amit Joki

4:02 PM

Does any one know, how often the inbox of team@stackexchange.com is checked?

hichris123

@AmitJoki team@ goes into Zendesk. It may be a day or so until you get a response.

Amit Joki

@hichris123 what's a zendesk? kind of web portal?

hichris123

It's like a ticketed support system.

Braiam

> The company provides a cloud-based customer service platform, also called Zendesk, that includes ticketing, self-service options, and customer support features. Founded in 2007, the company now employs roughly 500 people[1] and serves more than 40,000 customers[2] in 140 countries.[3]

hichris123

i.e. this: zendesk.com

@Braiam Where's the attribution to Wikipedia? ;P

Braiam

4:07 PM

@hichris123 >>>>>>>

Amit Joki

I mailed them to team@stackexchange.com so, I'll have to wait for few more days, I suppose.

Jan Dvorak

~~SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/236358/…~~ gone before I translated it to verify

hichris123

@JanDvorak The title is: buy shower booster in Hanoi.

So yes, spam.

rene

@hichris123 Are shower boosters from Hanoi better? On a side-note: What are shower boosters?

hichris123

I have no clue.

rene

4:16 PM

:)

hichris123

amazon.com/ShowerBooster-Bluetooth-Waterproof-Shower-Handsfree/… uh... big onebox much?

rofl

rene

That was a disturbing picture :)

hichris123

Now you can use Siri in the shower!

@rene Kinda, yeah... ;P

rene

imgur.com/up3Yvso

^^^^ strange artifact when I'm pinged

Braiam

@Braiam d

@rene no repro

maybe is @ShadowWizard trying to spy on you

rene

4:30 PM

Oh, the wizard is hunting me

Andy

4:51 PM

spam: stackoverflow.com/a/24682012/189134

spam: stackoverflow.com/a/24682076/189134

rene

gone

Final Contest

"Thank you for reviewing 20 low quality posts today; come back in 7 hours to continue reviewing."

Vote to Close

@FinalContest Good job @laslzo!

rene

@FinalContest Amazed that there are only 20 low quality posts until now. Quality goes up? :-)

Vote to Close

@rene I haven't been flagging as much.

Final Contest

4:56 PM

@Rene: no, I found a bug.

I only reviewed 19!

rene

10

Q: Cannot review anymore after 19 reviews

Today I reviewed some posts in the Low Quality Posts, and I hit the daily maximum. But at the "Today" field, it shows 19, but I got the message: Thank you for reviewing 20 low quality posts today; come back in 14 hours to continue reviewing. Here is a screenshot: When I manually counted ...

bug review

Final Contest

oh, wait, not downvoted bugreport to oblivion?!

Bart

Why would it be @FinalContest? You didn't write it.

Final Contest

@Bart: let us make a test ;)

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