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12:18 AM

Hello, I want to talk to a stack exchange user about something he wrote.... How I can create a private chat room (like those automated ones with extended discussions in comments)?

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2:55 AM

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/249062/…

user0000000

cv-plz stackoverflow.com/questions/1648008/…

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@user0000000: the correct link is stackoverflow.com/questions/1648008/…

Jan Dvorak

5:28 AM

SPAM english.stackexchange.com/questions/180497/…

Jan Dvorak

5:40 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234483/…

CapDroid

5:59 AM

@balpha Good Morning

please delete this message

Jan Dvorak

6:09 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234486/…

rene

@FinalContest I pressed ctrl+alt+del and now I'm without a job...

Jan Dvorak

6:38 AM

SPAM english.stackexchange.com/questions/180512/…

Shadow Wizard

@user2284570 to have it automated the other user must have been in chat at least once already, otherwise just create a room and invite him through manual comment.

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cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/294343/…

good morning

Blue Ice

Good morning!

@FinalContest yup, that needs it

Blue Ice

7:13 AM

@FinalContest Anyone know exactly what happened to YCS? I know that he was borderline abusive before, but did he cross the line this time or something?

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Yes, as far as I know he ate a moderator for breakfast.

2

Blue Ice

@FinalContest Welp, those moderators never sit well with me either :)))

Just kidding, I like the mods here. Except for one guy, who really ticked GnomeSlice off once

@FinalContest Which one? Bart? He got eaten by a unicoin a while ago too.

umm

Apr 1 at 23:05, by Blue Ice

ok, bedtime. goodnight everyone, will see you tomorrow

ProgramFOX

@BlueIce See you!

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8:15 AM

-1

A: JScrollPane doesn't add components

why you people always come and say you dont need you probably dont need, If somebody is asking something try to answer and dont tell him what he needs or doesnt need. You cannot add scrollpane to panel and expect it to work. And if you are adding to scrollpane a panel then you need to pass to obj...

rene

I assume he get the message now that it is not an answer...

Jan Dvorak

I'm not sure. You should comment to him ;-)

rene

@JanDvorak done

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@rene: I smell holland vs. brazil final...

rene

8:49 AM

@FinalContest I hope not...

My first answer on codegolf is received well...Not that I would expect c# ever to win a codegolf...

I did like the Oracle SQL one

@ProgramFOX tnx for the edit...

ProgramFOX

You're welcome!

Alex

9:12 AM

@Doorknob does this mean that the everyone else has to share the load that the random victim once fulfilled? What methods did you use to select the person randomly? How do they feel about this? How does everyone else feel?

Jan Dvorak

@Alex they will feel afraid they might be next, and they'll try harder to avoid such mistakes

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234502/…

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak nuked by employee

Spamming MSE is like stealing from a police station

rene

Now we never know which bubble bath to buy...

Jan Dvorak

9:32 AM

who needs a bubble bath? Eat beans.

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234504/…

rene

@JanDvorak Tried that once...it works, but turns your bathroom into a big pile of ... mess ...

Jan Dvorak

do you not have ventilation in your bathroom?

rene

At that moment it got ventilated pretty well....

Jan Dvorak

9:50 AM

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234505/…

Final Contest

huh?! -1 vote remaining?

Jan Dvorak

did you get a rejected flag or few after depleting your quota?

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imgur.com/PL2HK27

actually, I exceeded 21 K

so I was going to delete vote something

and I got -1 instead of +1

0

Q: Vote to delete this post? (-1 votes remaining)

I have just exceeded 21K rep and that means I would get another delete vote for the day. I thought I would go around and see if I can cast a vote on some post. This screen was awaiting me: Instead of +1 vote, I got -1. Why is that?

Jan Dvorak

10:09 AM

SPAM superuser.com/questions/772711/…

user2284570

10:25 AM

@ShadowWizard Yes, but the chat room created automatically are private (only invited peoples can read it.) and automatically deleted after a certain period. So that's different from gallery chat room.

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Asking the same question will not help. If it has no answer for you, it has no answer for you. Raise a bounty on it and you get your answer there for reputation. We do not need many questions for the same stuff. — Final Contest 1 min ago

Jan Dvorak

@FinalContest out of close votes?

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yes, otherwise I would have used my binding close vote.

"This is really basics, and it is really easy to get it working, moreover, there were other two links "-Clearly the English language is beyond you. As I have already said, none of these other posts have this error occurring after a switch in platform, so this issue has not been address. It seems like you have more of a problem in reading previous questions than you are accusing me of having. — holmeswatson 2 mins ago

I am out ....

Shadow Wizard

11:25 AM

@user0000000 hey that's what @rene always doing!

crap meta.stackexchange.com/questions/234506/…

Jan Dvorak

SPAM drupal.stackexchange.com/questions/120313/how-can-make-body

how hard is to determine programatically if a sequence of english words is a valid sentence?

user0000000

No.

that is a sentence I think ^

Jan Dvorak

the title, you mean?

user0000000

No. - is a sentence (i think) , so it'd be hard to determine what is a sentence.. but for like a title, it should obviously be more than one word

I just read something about how when people tried to make coding languages to seem write like english, they realized how hard that is since the english language has so many rules, ambiguities, etc..

so yea, it wouldn't be possible to determine a valid sentence programatically, in my opionion

Templar

Why my edit got 2 rejections (still got approved though) http://stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5136750

I just wanted to add appropriate tag but fixed something in the question as well.

Jan Dvorak

11:34 AM

perhaps they didn't consider the tag useful

user0000000

@Templar Seemed like a good edit to me. Who knows what those 2 were thinking.

Templar

well it's probably the most useful tag compared to others, altough others could be seen as a superset of it, so its acceptable to have them as well

Jan Dvorak

It's a tag that only 9 questions have

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@ShadowWizard:

@OGHaza: yeah, I cannot see it duplicate just yet since I cannot reproduce the duplicate issue, but I am facing this one. — Final Contest 23 secs ago

Templar

its not very popular thats why

Jan Dvorak

11:37 AM

then why add it?

Shadow Wizard

@user0000000 for some reason, many users appear to dislike retagging

Templar

should i remove all unpopular tags?

Jan Dvorak

that would be too minor as well :-)

Templar

all questions tagged with mangodb has mongodb tag except 2 with negative votes

user0000000

@ShadowWizard yea, but he changed a lot more than just the tag... they rejected it as too minor... I can maybe see that if he didn't change all the other things.. must be robo-reviewers

Shadow Wizard

11:39 AM

@FinalContest I still think the same bug is behind those two.

Andy

@Templar, I was one of the rejections. I see very minor grammar changes (capitalization of a few works, and a small phrase removal) and the addition of a tag with only a few questions to a post that is a year old.

Shadow Wizard

@user0000000 robo reviewers are only approving, rejecting requires more clicks. More likely strict reviewers.

Jan Dvorak

@Andy time shouldn't matter

Andy

@JanDvorak I'll remember that, but it did factor in when I saw there were only 9 posts associated with the new tag

Jan Dvorak

@Andy noted. Every tag starts at zero, however.

Final Contest

11:42 AM

@ShadowWizard: how come? What is the bug?

Shadow Wizard

@FinalContest bug causing negative votes in the alert dialog.

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:D You just see that that they are both in the delete vote topic, but you do not know if it is the same ^^

also, there was some difference between the two posts, so that old may not be actually reproduceable anymore, and this might be a new issue (strictly limited to exceeding a rep level).

Shadow Wizard

@FinalContest the question will appear soon in the Reopen queue now that you cast your reopen vote. If four other 3k users will agree, you'll have it reopened. :)

Jan Dvorak

12:08 PM

SPAM english.stackexchange.com/questions/180548/…

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@ShadowWizard: yes, I made an edit to make it clear that it may or may not be a duplicate, so it is not a duplicate for sure.

I personally feel it is not the same question, but whatever.

Shadow Wizard

@FinalContest I can't convince you and you can't convince me, we're in a deadlock, but luckily there are others. :-)

meta.stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/667

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12:27 PM

meh, I do not care that much to be honest as long as the bug is fixed and I can continue destroying garbage.

user2284570

Hello, how I can delete a chat gallery I created?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM meta.stackexchange.com/q/234509

Shadow Wizard

@user2284570 you can't. Just let it be, it will be frozen or auto deleted after a while.

@FinalContest the bug is not stopping you from deleting, it's just a display bug.

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@ShadowWizard: you are wrong, it is stopping me, eventually.

that is the whole issue, not the display :)

could not care less about the fluffy display ;-)

GnomeSlice

Today's Listening | Electronic/Ambient/Downtempo

rene

1:01 PM

@FinalContest Did someone already said caching?

Jan Dvorak

SPAM english.stackexchange.com/questions/180558/…

Jan Dvorak

1:16 PM

Wow. That was accepted faster than I could read the comment: stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/5137780

Umm... while "integral" does indeed technically mean "relating to the set of integers", I still think it's better to stick to the ungrammatical but clear use of "integer" as adjective. — Jan Dvorak 15 secs ago

Alex

1:31 PM

@JanDvorak would you reject or accept?

Jan Dvorak

I was going to reject as invalid

It was accepted by OP, then I commented, now OP is unsure what version is better.

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I am suspicious. @rene says caching for everything. :O

Bart

Thanks @GnomeSlice

Lynn Crumbling

1:52 PM

Is anybody else seeing issues with questions from an hour ago coming back as newest?

user2284570

@ShadowWizard Ok So I just created that room, and I can't find how to add this user

Lynn Crumbling

I seem to be jumping back and forth between up-to-date, and a list of questions from an hour ago.

Jan Dvorak

caching?

Lynn Crumbling

hah. nice.

continuity.

nope; firefox, chrome, and ie all show the same result.

And now it's back to up-to-date.

Jan Dvorak

server-side caching, I mean

Lynn Crumbling

1:54 PM

ah. maybe...

And, back to an hour ago.

Wonder if there's anyway to differentiate which host (in the farm) is returning the result.

Shadow Wizard

@user2284570 since he never used chat.stackexchange.com you can't do it automatically, you'll have to write a comment on one of his posts asking him to join your room

@LynnCrumbling Nick surely knows :)

Doorknob

@user2284570 I can superping him for you; that will automatically create a chat account for him

But why do you want him to be in the room?

Shadow Wizard

2:23 PM

Soul mates?

Bart

Sockpuppets

3

Shadow Wizard

good way to have two diamonds

nicael

Positive man, what to say :D

Doorknob

I'm tempted to upvote only one and break the pattern, but no

rene

As an experiment we could try to downvote Oded so much that he can't post any more...

Shadow Wizard

2:36 PM

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Q: Can diamond moderators or Stack Exchange employees get post banned?

I will bring forth a likely case. Stack Exchange is hiring new employee, for example new Community Manager, who didn't have account on any site before. The employee start new account and get a shiny diamond. So far everything is good. Now suppose that employee is participating here on Meta by an...

discussion feature-request moderators post-ban stackexchange-team

Great minds think alike!

hey don't pity upvote just because I'm a poor wizard who got hammered down in the past :D

rene

That wasn't me...

this time...

Doorknob

@ShadowWizard Should I downvote to offset the upvote? :P

rene

But I agree on the poor wizard part

Shadow Wizard

@Doorknob bring it on! ;D

Doorknob

I'm just going to play with the voting buttons >:D

rene

2:39 PM

Don't let me push any buttons...

Jan Dvorak

~~offensive stackoverflow.com/questions/19614730/…~~ gone

nicael

@ShadowWizard Guess who.

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak hardly, just crap.

@nicael you know, I fear the day when you will delete your account. I have a suspicion many users will lose many repz.

4

Jan Dvorak

@ShadowWizard mod-deleted with a helpful flag. Noted anyways.

nicael

@ShadowWizard Wait, I didn't say that I upvoted you, did I?

Jan Dvorak

2:42 PM

and then gain them again. And then lose them. And then gain them again...

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak and I thought 24 contained all possible methods of torture :P

Jan Dvorak

:-D

Shadow Wizard

@JanDvorak yeah, no harm done, just being picky :)

Lynn Crumbling

Ugh. I hate posting an answer, working with the OP through a string of comments to get at the real problem, then having the OP post an answer of their own which effectively restates the conclusion that the array of comments was leading towards.

Ha. Oded has pulled ahead.

nicael

I am the top user.

I am the top user again.

Bart

3:03 PM

bottom

rene

despite the light traffic jam I take the car and drive home...cya...

nicael

@Bart no, top. :D

Blue Ice

3:18 PM

Hello! Good whatever, everyone! (It's a good morning for me)

user2284570

@Doorknob Yes please do it! I want to talk to him because he published some part of the code source of a program (which aren't inside a post). His program is a library for multiplying integers with OpenCL and advanced mathematical, which maybe the only software for doing this. While I have the mathematical level for understanding how he did, I can't write something like that myself. So I need to talk with him to see if I can get the whole source code or (at least) the binary.

Blue Ice

@ShadowWizard Upvoted, haha

Bart

@user2284570 His personal website has contact information. Might be an easier route than dragging him into chat.

Doorknob

@user2284570 You should probably comment on one of his posts instead of trying to force him into your room

user2284570

@Bart Where he used his stakoverflow account...

Bart

3:26 PM

@user2284570 That doesn't mean "contact me on SO". His email address seems a more obvious point of contact.

user2284570

@Doorknob It would be off-topic (since it has nothing to do with his post) and a comment like this is likely to get flagged and deleted.

Blue Ice

yup, agreed

I'd use his email. He put it there for a reason, so people can contact him with specific issues.

Doorknob

@user2284570 Can't the same be argued for the chatroom itself?

user2284570

@Doorknob Yes, please delete it (since he can't come on it).

Doorknob

Okay

user2284570

3:42 PM

Hey this was all simply! Nothing is needed (no need to create a chat room manually). I just used the feature "talk with this user" which is present on every profile. @ShadowWizard : Why didn't you tell me about it?

Bart

Cause @ShadowWizard is evil. EVIL!!!

user2284570

@Bart mdr :)

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3:57 PM

@ShadowWizard: the question got reopened, apparently.

@Bart: not enough question marks; do not be so friendly.

user2284570

Ok, the result is here.

Bart

4:12 PM

@FinalContest I'm having a positive day.

Shadow Wizard

4:25 PM

@user2284570 it exists only in chat profile and as far as I could see that user did not have one

@Bart oh yes, this too ;)

@FinalContest can't fight Lance!

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told ya :p

user2284570

@ShadowWizard He have one and I found it.

Andy

5:24 PM

eh, never mind, just low quality

TGMCians

\o

ProgramFOX

o/

Shadow Wizard

@user2284570 yup, nice find!

TGMCians

@ShadowWizard That day moderator on chinese stackexchange ignored my message and even I had a chat with him, after that he did so, Anyway

but later StackExchange Team replied me that we have deleted those accounts

Shadow Wizard

6:31 PM

@TGMCians that's not the issue. Something is rotten in the moderation of that site.

TGMCians

yeah

Bart

@ShadowWizard I'd love to help out, but it's all Chinese to me

Shadow Wizard

Anyway guess we better just move on, nothing more we can or should do.

@Bart Google Translate for the rescue ;)

Jan Dvorak

6:54 PM

@ShadowWizard we can still sit there and flag offensive

rene

7:12 PM

I didn't pass this audit because the OP updated his question that it now works. So I wanted to vote: no repro. Thoughts?

Bart

@rene I like icecream

Jan Dvorak

@rene you can recast.

rene

@Bart imgur.com/4KLl8

Bart

Yay! Wait ....

rene

@JanDvorak not sure....now that I visited the question and try to understand the answer it might be a response that the answer works?

Jan Dvorak

7:16 PM

as in, a thank you edit?

rene

Yeah...

Jan Dvorak

he's also adding information, so a rollback isn't entirely great either.

rene

I left a comment

Shadow Wizard

7:36 PM

@JanDvorak I had a look in the morning and noticed all troll accounts were deleted and no new trash. Found one possible NSFW picture while roaming the place, but no trolling.

So, hopefully he got the hint and moved on, leaking his virtual wounds.

Andy

0

A: sending email via HTML form using php script

This is easy go to w3schools, You'll find your desire answer. I think w3school is best solution ever.

user163250

Duplicate question, please close:

user163250

0

Q: git reset / unstage new file(s)

I've accidentally staged a lot of changes including new files that I do not want to commit. How can I unstage or reset only new files? I am not looking for a script of any kind; I am looking for core git functionality to be exposed and documented here on SO under a meaningful topic title.

git

rene

@Andy Anna to the rescue

Anna Lear

Ceiling moderator is watching you link to not-an-answers.

Bart

8:09 PM

"Spider moderator, spider moderator, does whatever a spider moderator does"

rene

8:25 PM

I believe deleted answers/questions shouldn't be used in an audit?

So this is wrong?

Based on this answer from Oded...

Anna Lear

@rene Depends on the queue.

Oded's answer says nothing about questions and that was a question audit.

rene

In the CVQ it is ok?

Anna Lear

Was there something weird with that audit or are you just idly curious?

rene

No it was reported here but as Shog9 said that some stuff in the queue needed tweaking I wondered if this was also something that slipped through

Based on Oded's answer that is...

Anna Lear

Oded's answer is about something else.

I'm not sure off the top of my head what we're doing for the close votes queue, but it seems reasonable to not necessarily exclude deleted (and closed) questions

That said, might be worth a separate meta post if you'd rather have a more definitive answer. (I could also be wrong. :))

rene

8:33 PM

@AnnaLear We might have found it: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/202033/… and you're correct...

Thumbs up for Anna!

Anna Lear

:)

rene

9:12 PM

@AnnaLear did you notice this isn't this issue related to/ has a root cause after a fail-over to the other DC?

Anna Lear

@rene possibly... I'm not sure off-hand.

rene

I'm reading the post-mortem on the outage of yesterday. If I find anything I'll let ou know :-)

Anna Lear

Searching for posts that contain "opengl" isn't the same as viewing questions tagged [opengl], but I'm not sure how search works vs just looking up a list of questions in a tag.

rene

I assume that there is some lag but 8 hours seems to me some job is not running...

Anna Lear

@rene Nick's looking into it.

rene

9:19 PM

OK.

I like this bit ...see syntax changes without logging into production equipment

GnomeSlice

Does anybody know where I can find an SE press kit or something

Anna Lear

@GnomeSlice What for?