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Laszlo Papp

3:00 PM

anyway, that thread will go to oblivion in 1-2 days hopefully ... ;-)

Blue Ice

@bart damn. That's nice :)

Laszlo Papp

/me is lacto vegetarian, not eating egg

Jason C

@LaszloPapp That's fine and I agree but, taking your side for consistency, I fail to see how my comment there was any different from you telling me that you flagged my comment here? Hypocrisy attracts revenge. I'm not saying you're a bad person, and I don't feel any angst towards you at all. But if you're wondering why you seem to be a revenge target for others, perhaps you shouldn't consistently have that attitude towards others... Anyways.

Laszlo Papp

What attitude, JasonC?

Jason C

Actually your question ("What attitude?") raises a good point. It's just the way you are, so it doesn't seem out of the ordinary from your point of view (but hint: reflect on why you're a target for revenge, for example). I don't think this is a rabbit hole I want to go down any further than I already have, but I'll try to be more constructive the next time you get upset.

Laszlo Papp

3:06 PM

I suggested not to reply to an offensive post on Stack Overflow, just flag it. If that is bad, that is alright, that is still my personal opinion. I apologize if this had hurt you.

Jason C

@LaszloPapp No I'm not talking about that at all, really.

Laszlo Papp

OK, well, apparently I do not know what you are talking about, and you do not seem to share it, so just let it go, then.

Blue Ice

@LaszloPapp veggie coaster?

Laszlo Papp

:)

Jason C

I don't eat vegetables. I'm non-bacon intolerant.

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Braiam

3:10 PM

WELP!

@TimStone ^

Tim Stone

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Q: Captcha is missing in Data Explorer when connected over https?

When I tried to run this How many upvotes do I have for each tag?, I got the below screen Here the captcha is missing? I tried in other browsers too. Updates: From @Oded 's comments, I changed to http and it was working perfectly. Out of curiousity I would like to know why captcha over h...

I'll try and find out if the pending changes can be deployed sometime soon.

Jason C

@TimStone I noticed that, at least yesterday, sometimes links to questions and comments posted in the chat room didn't expand to pretty previews. Was that also related to switching to HTTPS?

3ventic's Shadow

Doesn't login skip the captcha?

ProgramFOX

@3ventic'sShadow Yes, it does.

3ventic's Shadow

So login then! :p

Tim Stone

3:14 PM

@JasonC Chat doesn't onebox HTTPS links for the network for some reason, I assume that'll be fixed at some point.

Jason C

I thought so. I tried to post an issue about it on meta last night but confused myself and cried in the corner instead. Again. :''(

Blue Ice

@JasonC Amazing! How does that happen? :)

Jason C

@BlueIce I don't know. I never have the presence of mind to observe whether I look at meta, start crying then go to the corner, or move to the corner first before weeping, or if I start crying before looking at meta. The order of events is fuzzy.

@LaszloPapp In the other room; which proposal are you referring to?

Braiam

@TimStone yay!

Blue Ice

@jasonc i was talking about the bacon message lol :)

Jason C

3:22 PM

@BlueIce Oh, haha.

Blue Ice

@jasonc but that is so sad waaah

Tim Stone

@TimStone Actually let's ask @balpha really, really nicely right now.

balpha

when HTTPS is officially supported, I'm pretty sure we'll have oneboxes

now if you'll excuse me, I'm making bold & italic 230% more awesome

I hope :)

hichris123

@balpha Let me guess: 6-8 weeks?

rene

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/23016564/… lack of information

Jason C

3:26 PM

@balpha You're switching all our bold and italic fonts to Comic Sans (because it's awesome)?

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hichris123

@JasonC Eeek!

rene

Comic Sans is the best thing ever happened to mankind

Blue Ice

Who are you and what did you do with the real @rene?!?

The Guy with The Hat

$('b').css('font-family', '"Comic Sans MS"');
$('i').css('font-family', '"Comic Sans MS"');

Jason C

@BlueIce Maybe that room should just be called Happy Chat Message Upvote Circle-Jerk Fun Time.

Jan Dvorak

3:41 PM

EEEK stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/4555691

Jason C

@JanDvorak Wow; that one approval, no good

The Guy with The Hat

> 2rs2ts has approved 185 edit suggestions and rejected 217 edit suggestions

hichris123

@JanDvorak Probably a misclick.

demongolem

What's happening (or not happening) with the tags count? Neither the total upvotes nor the total count of questions+answers has been updated forever it seems on my page.

rene

@demongolem meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/226681/…

demongolem

3:50 PM

Thanks @rene that looks like a good read. I'll check that out.

TGMCians

4:16 PM

hey everyone !

Hey @TGMCians !

Hi!

\o

@TGMCians can you leave a message here: chat.stackoverflow.com/transcript/message/15790163#15790163

TGMCians

yes , let me check

rene

4:21 PM

cv-pls-migrate-superuser stackoverflow.com/questions/23017778/…

or maybe crap...

Braiam

I'm in the crap camp side

The Guy with The Hat

Yeah, definitely not worth migration.

TGMCians

4:34 PM

so when I vote "reopen" any question then it goes in review after min/hour/day ?

ɥʇǝS

Yeah.

5 I think.

TGMCians

what 5 min/hour/day ?

The Guy with The Hat

5 units

ɥʇǝS

@TGMCians minutes

The Guy with The Hat

It constantly amazes me how almost nobody formats their code correctly.

ɥʇǝS

4:37 PM

It is so bad I'm always temped to upvote new user posts if they even just format it properly :P

TGMCians

can you get review link of any question that has been reviewed ? I want to see

The Guy with The Hat

@TGMCians What type?

TGMCians

reopen

The Guy with The Hat

stackoverflow.com/review/reopen/4556077

Louis

@rene I opened that link to the question you suggested to migrate but then got pulled into a different direction. When I came back it was already closed. I've stopped proposing migrations. Everything I've come across in Meta discussions makes me think that I have 99% chance of being wrong, so...

TGMCians

4:40 PM

@TheGuywithTheHat 4556077 is your question ID, right ?

ProgramFOX

@TGMCians No, 4556077 is the review item ID.

The Guy with The Hat

^^^ that

TGMCians

Then I can't find review link of any question which I want to see

Louis

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/23017980/…

The Guy with The Hat

@TGMCians Yes, you can. Just a moment.

rene

4:43 PM

@Louis OK, point taken...

The Guy with The Hat

@TGMCians data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/182473/…

TGMCians

@TheGuywithTheHat Nice ! Thnx

TGMCians

5:06 PM

0

Q: Reopen vote count not showing

I am trying to reopen the closed question but I am trying to do then it displays the message "You have already voted to reopen.." but see in the screenshot question does not show reopen vote count. I think this should show here like also reopen(1) and it does generally but not for me.

discussion bug

ProgramFOX

@TGMCians That's probably because your reopen vote is expired.

TGMCians

OK

ProgramFOX

I only can't find when reopen votes expire.

TGMCians

hmm

Jason C

@ProgramFOX @TGMCians meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/123784/do-re-open-votes-expire/… (For expiration rules FYI)

Laszlo Papp

5:15 PM

@rene: I almost always miss your cv request :)

Oliver Schöning

Where would I ask about something Windows related? I want to know if stopping windows 8.1 from rebooting after a BSOD has any negative impact

Jason C

@OliverSchöning superuser.com

Oliver Schöning

ty

Jason C

There are 3 identical cups of coffee on my desk. All are half full. All are cold. One is from this morning. The other two are from a week ago. I can't tell which is which. Which one do I drink? Why are these even here? Ugh... I'm disgusting. :(

Oliver Schöning

Sounds like some riddle

Louis

5:22 PM

@JasonC So long as there are no cigarette butts in them, it's okay.

Jason C

Haha yeah it does. @OliverSchöning "You may cross the bridge, but first you must pass the test."

Oliver Schöning

:D

Jason C

@Louis Lol, true. Plus if I mix them all into one cup, it's kind of like having coffee that's only 2/3 of a week old.

Braiam

@OliverSchöning IMO... no

Louis

@JasonC sounds like a plan! :)

Oliver Schöning

5:25 PM

@Braiam Can you explain why :o ?

rene

@LaszloPapp I'm used to being ignored... no problem...

There is no api to change the chat events? Because this is going to take a while I guess...

Jason C

This is on the 6-8 years timeframe? — rene 3 mins ago

@rene Lol ^

Laszlo Papp

@JasonC: heh, right after the debate with you, I got an unupvote and immediate downvote, funky.

The Guy with The Hat

0

Q: How do i unpack a .dat file and see what's inside

I know this might sound dumb but how do i unpack DAT files, like for instance i have this DAT file that has a sprite in it that i want to edit, how do i unpack the DAT and get the sprite?

file pack

...

Laszlo Papp

was that really you if I may ask, based on a technically irrelevant debate?

Jason C

5:32 PM

@LaszloPapp On what?

Laszlo Papp

on the performance madness which goes to oblivion in one day.

Jason C

No, I believe you still have my pity upvote there.

Incidentally, that question has 3 reopen votes (why...?).

Laszlo Papp

huh, it got reopened

Jason C

Are you serious

Custom flag time, lol

Laszlo Papp

wow

Braiam

5:34 PM

@OliverSchöning Windows brings the system to a halt (no disk spinning, etc.) but doesn't need to shut it down when the BSOD occurs

Laszlo Papp

btw, interesting to know the the SE team can check who downvotes you.

right, so that thread apparently will not get deleted any soon....

Oliver Schöning

@Braiam thx. got an answer in root access too, basically I have to restart if I want to use the pc again

Bart

Deleted? Custom flags? Close votes? WHERE CAN I DO EVIL!?!?!

Jason C

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Q: Virtual function performance: one large class vs many smaller subclasses

I am in the process of refactoring a c++ OpenGL app I made (technically, an app that makes heavy use of the thin OpenGL wrapper in Qt's QQuickItem class). My app is performing ok but could be better. One of the issues I'm curious about relates to the use of virtual functions in very time-sensiti...

c++ performance

Laszlo Papp

@JasonC: btw, there are such questions on stack overflow already. I found two.

Jason C

5:38 PM

@Bart ^ That needs to die.

Oliver Schöning

Man.. I love the word Tavern. Feels so cosy. I just want a stone of Mead and sit by the fire

Jason C

@LaszloPapp You mean questions that are like the virtual function one? They need to burn too.

Bart

@JasonC say the two guys who answered it?

Laszlo Papp

@Bart: L. O. L.

:P /me hides

Jason C

@Bart Silence!

Bart

5:41 PM

The answers are awesome enough to justify not voting to close the question. So nope.

Jason C

FSV of "awesome".

hichris123

@JasonC voted to close.

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Laszlo Papp

@hichris123: oh, noooes! blasphemy :P

@JasonC: well, one thing I was obsessed about is really performance critical code. On desktop, none of the variants makes any difference, and hence the question is N/A.

hichris123

Can some CM migrate this to meta since it's now available?

Laszlo Papp

can a question be reopened any times by different voters?

Bart

5:55 PM

sure

Jason C

@LaszloPapp I really wish he would give us more info. For some reason I'm super curious about where his actual bottlenecks are. I think it's because the OP seems like a reasonable person, unlike most of the micro-optimization askers I usually see.

Laszlo Papp

I think he is an academic

wondering about performance on non-performance critical systems.

Jason C

Not sure why it's a secret though. I suspect he is just asking out of curiosity but posed it as an "actual" example to make it fly here.

Laszlo Papp

what is the point of that? :)

Jason C

Yeah exactly.

Laszlo Papp

6:03 PM

oh, wait... academic people like working on theoretical stuff that is interesting, but not necessarily useful ... :)

I guess most of SO is desktop devs without doing performance critical embedded. It is amusing to me how people talk against fundamental principles that Sony applied to the PS series. :)

Blue Ice

@jasonc you should see my micro optimization question :P

I've only kept it for posterity.

:)))

Jason C

@BlueIce Oh god.

Blue Ice

@jasonc you like?

Jason C

Ok, in C++, would I get beaten to death if somebody saw me use if (!this) to check for member function calls on null objects?

@BlueIce stackoverflow.com/questions/17908811/… ?

Laszlo Papp

not sure why it got so many downvotes, but I gave an upvote.

@BlueIce do you personally believe you can do a better job than the compiler? If you do, you should be writing compilers. If not, you shouldn't waste your time with topics like this. — mah Jul 28 '13 at 13:44

and that is IMHO not constructive.

and not even ultimately correct... you do write intrinsics because compilers suck.

Looking at the user's profile and description, I am not that surprised.

hichris123

6:24 PM

-4

Q: Is there a way to get free mobile network without wifi and a sim card?

Is there a way to get free mobile network without wifi and a sim card? Is there a way to get free mobile network without wifi and a sim card? I have a rooted BLU STUDIO 5.5S and I want to get free mobile network I don't have sim card and I want it without WiFi.Is there an app or anything?

bug google internet-explorer-9

sigh

Louis

It's really annoying when you try to get an OP to update their question so that the necessary information is there and the reply you get is "the information you are asking about is obviously not relevant". "Yes, right, I don't know that I'm talking about. On the one hand my application works perfectly but your can't even load!" Well, I did not say this but I sure thought it.

3ventic's Shadow

Isn't it annoying when you get +1 rep and you have no idea where from?

Louis

@3ventic'sShadow You should give me that +1 to stop the annoyance. :)

3ventic's Shadow

I'd have to downvote you twice and upvote a question

too much trouble.

Jason C

@3ventic'sShadow Probably because something you downvoted got deleted. In your profile reputation page, down at the bottom, click "show removed posts". Then the +1's will show in the reputation timeline and you can see where they came from.

3ventic's Shadow

6:27 PM

Yeah but I have no idea which site

Jason C

Oh. Yeah. That part is super annoying.

3ventic's Shadow

I have a few -1 from downvoting in the dropdown but all of those posts still exist

OH RIGHT

I'm dumb.

I literally just looked at the few minutes ago deleted question where I had downvoted an answer ._.

Jason C

@3ventic'sShadow Yeah. Good job, MORON.

3ventic's Shadow

:P

Jason C

Lol

Jason C

6:39 PM

Aw man, it's too bad you can only get Tumbleweed once. It kills the "Awkward Moments" data.se query I just made.

Blue Ice

6:53 PM

@laszlopapp Yeah, that was long before I got into assembler lol. I might write a compiler someday, we'll see :)

@jasonc yup, that's the one!

@jasonc I kinda asked it just to see what would happen. I didn't really know what the community would think :)

I figured that out pretty fast. Good times.

The Guy with The Hat

New A51 proposals don't get much traffic.

I made one about 40 minutes ago.

> viewed 4 times

Blue Ice

@theguy Yeah, the sex toys one was kind of funny a couple months ago :)

The Guy with The Hat

@BlueIce Uhh... what does that have to do with anything?

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Trolling

Proposed Q&A site for this site is for any part of Trolling. For those who want to prevent trolling, design systems that discourage trolling, or for people who want to successfully troll others.

Currently in definition.

lol

Jason C

7:18 PM

Whoops. Java's got me typing "throw new" all over the place in C++. Thank god for find/replace.

That was almost a debugging nightmare waiting to happen.

Blue Ice

@theguy it got tons of traffic :))

Louis

7:42 PM

Well.... I managed to zap my development database. I can recreate it without too much trouble but still...

Laszlo Papp

hehe, trolling ...

Jason C

8:10 PM

@Louis Nice. I love accidentally destroying stuff.

Laszlo Papp

-2

Q: Adapt QMessageBox size to its text size

I would like to create a QMessageBox::critical which would automatically adapt its size depending on the size of the content (the message text). How can I do it?

qt qmessagebox

cv pls.

Jason C

Like that time I typed rm -rf * ~ instead of rm -rf *~ by accident. :(

Louis

@JasonC Yikes... hope you had a backup.

Jason C

@Louis Nope; that was years ago before I had that kind of foresight. I pulled the drive and spent two days recovering data from it. I learned that lesson the hard way.

Louis

Ha. Well, one year I was working on an end of semester paper and had experienced a HD crash. I had a backup but it set me back about two fscking weeks. Now I have a system that backs up my ~ every 2 hours. I've made some stupid mistakes since but I've always been able to recover without much pain.

Jason C

8:18 PM

alias rmtemp='rm -rfv *~' has been a staple of my Linux setups ever since.

@Louis Ouch. Another good lesson learned though, heh.

I'm a back-up freak now too. Although I have not set up my backup system at home since I moved a month ago and I know I've got another lesson coming to me if I don't get on that. I had my first SSD read error on my laptop the other day. It was disturbing.

Braiam

@JasonC heard about rm -i

btw, I don't know why you need -f

Laszlo Papp

@Braiam: would not make much difference without -f in this case, though.

Braiam

8:36 PM

exactly, is irrelevant the use of -f

Jason C

@Braiam I name temporary directories with a ~ sometimes; and -f is needed with -r when they're not empty.

Braiam

@JasonC who told you that?

Jason C

I don't know. I might have just been mistaken a long time ago and not cared to look it up since. Let's see...

Braiam

-f, --force
  ignore nonexistent files and arguments, never prompt

Jason C

Oh

I know why I use -f, because it avoids an error message if *~ doesn't exist.

Braiam

8:38 PM

the only thing that will prompt about is in case you are removing write protected files

Jason C

Sorry I just forgot why I put it there to begin with, I got so used to typing it.

Jason C

9:18 PM

I have a terminology question. Say I have a network protocol where one type of message is a response sent only by request (e.g. a state query), and another type is sent on its own, without needing a request (e.g. a heartbeat). What word do I use for: "A status packet is only sent in response to an explicit request, but a heartbeat packet can be sent ___________ly."?

I know "at any time" but there's got to be one word for this - the purpose is to make it very clear that the packet can be sent without being asked for, in direct contrast to a request -> response mode.

ɥʇǝS

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/12874184/align-two-divs

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/12578480/…

rene

10:29 PM

@ɥʇǝS done that ^^^^

HamZa

11:04 PM

@robertharvey Did you consider/have a look at the following suggestion?

Undo

^ My Insta-Browser-Stack-Exchangifier button for Chrome opens these pages.

3ventic's Shadow

I always have these open: i.3ventic.eu/20140411231017759.png

Louis

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/questions/23019243/…

Jason C

11:20 PM

@Louis Check out the misspelled "encyption" tag.

Louis

Hmm.. yeah, I missed that.

Jason C

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Q: Burninate [encyption]

Burninate encyption, for hopefully obvious reasons. All current questions in the tag should be retagged encryption. There are only 27 at the time of this writing. Going down the list now.

discussion stackoverflow burninate-request

Lol, I misspelled "burninat" by accident in the title.

Louis

Burninate [burninat]

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Jason C

For serious.

HamZa

11:36 PM

I find the string tag most of the times useless. Also the following combinations:
match ~ regex
replace ~ regex
pattern-matching ~ regex
pattern-recognition ~ regex
And a lot more ~sighs~

dem tag spam ...

Jason C

@HamZa Yeah, I hate string almost as much as I hate loops.

Braiam

@JasonC me too...

is a descriptive tag, not a category

HamZa

Speaking of string ...

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Q: I am trying to arrange strings in alphabetical order that user inputs randomly, but nothing shows

So I am trying to do this using the string.compare method and my conditions are that if the methods finds out that the upcoming word is alphabetically behind the current word, their position changes with the help of the temporary string strWordTemp. The code seems fine, and when the last number i...

string

A one tagged question !!!

Jason C

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/228150/…

3ventic's Shadow

on SO a one tagged question is a wonder

on Arqade a 3+ tagged question is a wonder

Jason C

11:48 PM

Lol

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