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rchern

12:01 AM

I've given up attempting to answer his questions. Chances are he'll answer it within 10 minutes if not 2. (;

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@Shog9 I believe "chevron" implies orientation as well as the pointy shape.

Shog9

hmm?

Popular Demand

Wikipedia disambiguates them to guillemets, though.

Grace Note

That doesn't sound like good crazy

Shog9

@PopularDemand ah

Guillemets

Guillemets (, or after French ), also called angle quotes, are line segments, pointed as if arrows (« or »), sometimes forming a complementary set of punctuation marks used as a form of quotation mark. The symbol at either end – double « and » or single ‹ and › – is a guillemet. They are used in a number of languages to indicate speech. They are also used as symbols for rewind and fast forward and in some programming languages. A common colloquialism for guillements is "carrots". Etymology The word is a diminutive of the French name Guillaume (the equivalent of which in En...

^^^ now, why didn't the image come through on that?

The Unhandled Exception

12:07 AM

@Shog9 The onebox? It did for me...

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Is there nothing you will leave un-oneboxed?

Shog9

refreshing...

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My guess is because it's somehow located in a generic table of contents.

Shog9

no image

The Unhandled Exception

I have been meaning to review source and figure out how oneboxing works :-)

Popular Demand

12:07 AM

@TheUnhandledException, no, Shog meant the picture of guillemets.

The Unhandled Exception

@PopularDemand Oh, I see no picture either

Michael Mrozek

It's not actually a picture, it's actual guillemets in a very large font size

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Winner!

Shog9

Ah! So it is...

rchern

12:23 AM

:o wth. i'm putting in twitter.com and i'm ending up at myspace.com

how...fun?

well, it says twitter.com, but the page itself is myspace

Joe Phillips

myspace still exists?

rchern

that was my 2nd thought, hehe

Shog9

@JoePhillips of course. You can't kill Satan. He just keeps coming back in new forms.

rchern

can someone ping twitter and give me an ip?

(putting in the ip i get from a ping leads me to myspace)

Michael Mrozek

128.242.240.244

Shog9

12:28 AM

I get 128.242.245.148

Michael Mrozek

Mine is better

Shog9

indeed. All even digits (well, apart from that pesky leading 1)

rchern

what does 128.242.240.116 give you?

Michael Mrozek

Twitter

Shog9

twitter

rchern

12:29 AM

both your ips get me to twitter and ^^ is what i got from ping

strange.

Shog9

huh. Both IPs point to NTT America, so maybe they just hate you.

rchern

i'm so lucky

Shog9

Trying for Twitter and getting MySpace: selecting Almond Joy but the vending machine gives you Mounds.

The Unhandled Exception

12:53 AM

Damn, finally done. 3 times longer than that should have taken!

Time for some food and to take the rest of the night off

I'll catch you guys later!

Shog9

so long...

Jon Galloway

Wondering if this works in IE9 Beta

Yay, it totally does.

Okay, that's all. Bye!

David in Dakota

1:35 AM

Anyone out there using MVVM and Silverlight?

Michael Mrozek

2:39 AM

What is with this question? stackoverflow.com/questions/2670117

Shog9

must have some serious google guice

also, wtf are "christian shoes"?

Michael Mrozek

Apparently something nobody can ignore the existence of, if my sources are correct

Michael Mrozek

3:15 AM

SO spam flags have been reaching new heights the last week or so

Apparently the flags list has pages; I wasn't even aware of that until now

Shog9

3:34 AM

i blew all mine on user424257 yesterday; thanks for the reminder, I'll go blow more...

well, that was fast.

hello

HOW DO YOU DO?

well thank you shog9

'evenin', alex

how are you doing today -

Shog9

3:44 AM

distracted

Keep settling in to reproduce a bug, only to get dragged away by something

and then, when I return, I've forgotten what i was doing...

This has happened about a dozen times now, so I'm taking a break to drink for a while & see if that improves matters.

alex

Ah, yes. Reproducing bugs can be boring.

Web app ?

Shog9

naw, some byzantine set of labor estimation rules

alex

joy

Its 2pm Fri here, so I'm just taking it easy

Shog9

it's not my bug, and probably not anything I can even fix... and knowing that up-front doesn't exactly improve my motivation

It's pushing 10PM Thur here, but I intend to be busy elsewhere tomorrow so...

alex

Ah late night debugging.

I unfortunately don't work alongside any other programmers so all bugs are mine

Shog9

3:49 AM

my favorite time to do it... If i get stuck, chances are i'll somehow figure it out during the night

alex

well good luck

Shog9

thnx

random reading: everything2.com/title/Kit+Kat+Konspiracy

alex

Do you use Twitter Shog ?

looks like an interesting read!

Shog9

@alex nope.

alex

theres a lot of links in that article

just wonderin'

Shog9

3:53 AM

ever used E2 before?

sort of a "proto-wiki"

linking is strongly encouraged

Michael Mrozek

@Shog9 This level of linking is specifically discouraged on Wikipedia though, because it makes the document look ridiculous

Shog9

the links way down at the bottom are auto-generated based on where folks navigate to after reading the page

alex

Nope

Ah, I'll have to buy some kit kats next time I'm overseas - or perhaps the Aussie ones are different to the US ones

Shog9

@MichaelMrozek depends on the stylesheet. Wikipedia has the much bigger problem of including (an often huge amount of) meta-data inline with the text.

Michael Mrozek

I suspect this is all a ploy by Nestle to make me buy more kit kats

Shog9

3:57 AM

@alex you're australian? pretty sure you get the nestle ones then. You also get a wide variety of Cadbury chocolates, of which I am rather jealous

Michael Mrozek

I've yet to ever eat a Cadbury Creme Egg; based on the addictions others I know have, it's probably better that I not try one

Shog9

my sister brought a bunch of stuff last time she was home... timtams, of course, but also these funky bars of chocolate drizzles

(not sure how to describe that; as though someone had managed to make shredded wheat, but out of chocolate)

@MichaelMrozek they're ok. I used to make & pack similar but inferior confections. But cadbury has much better products, that for some reason just don't show up often in the US

Of course, if you're going for Easter candy, you really can't beat Peeps

AGED TO PERFECTION AND TOASTED OVER AN OPEN FLAME!

Michael Mrozek

Peeps I have eaten, in alarming quantities

alex

@shog9 Yep australian

Tim tams are pretty good - but I'm jealous of your pop tarts. I can buy them at a specialty store 2 1/2 hours drive away, for $4 for 2 :S

Shog9

wow

I pretty much lived on PopTarts while I was in school

pop tarts, stale pretzels, even more stale hard rolls, gummy bears, and massive, massive amounts of chocolate

kinda ruined my appreciation for them, to be honest

didn't help that I never had access to a toaster

alex

4:07 AM

haha I'm trying to ween off the junk food

Shog9

They're actually pretty easy to make, if you're so inclined (and if you're paying $2/ea, cost-effective as well)

alex

I was about 1/2 the size I am now when I was labouring (I've had a strange road to programming...)

Shog9

i know how that goes

alex

food or road?

Shog9

went from factory to office, gained about 60 lbs in a summer

that was going from a steady diet of junk food to real meals - didn't quite know how to handle it

alex

4:09 AM

ah yeah. I've joined and quit a gym twice. I kinda suck at that

Shog9

i just started doing my own cooking. much easier to stay balanced if you just eat what you're actually hungry for, vs. what's convenient

alex

I've got access to my own kitchen again in 2weeks so I think I will too

and living with my gf for the first time - hopefully a perk will be healthy dinners (she loves to cook)

Shog9

excellent!

alex

so tell me, I'm new to this chat - is this the official SO chat or only the meta?

George Marian

4:55 AM

Mmmm...finally, some scotch!

Michael Mrozek

@alex Just meta. They've rolled out SF and SU now, but they're waiting on SO since it's such a large user base

Benjol

5:33 AM

morning/evening all

George Marian

@Benjol evenin'

Benjol

@GeorgeMarian, all moved and cosy now? (with scotch, I see :)

George Marian

Yes, sir. That is the way to warm a house. :)

And, with a fine cigar, of course.

Benjol

Eric Lippert is playing with my mind again...

Is is as or is as is?

George Marian

@Benjol huh?

Benjol

5:46 AM

@GeorgeMarian I only ever tried a cigar once, yeurrch

@GeorgeMarian that was my reaction too

George Marian

@Benjol Do you remember what it was?

Benjol

not really. Something cuban :)

George Marian

Well, that's a shame, though not all Cubans are necessarily good cigars.

That said, cigars are not for everyone. :)

It was a good Cuban cigar that got me interested in cigars. A friend suggest I quit smoking cigarettes, in favor of cigars, about 10 years ago. However, at the time I had only smoked crappy cigars.

Then a another friend of mine let me smoke one of his well preserved Cuban Cohibas. Mmm...mmm...mmm. That was so tasty, it lit my fire. ;)

Benjol

@GeorgeMarian, yeah, well I don't smoke at all, so maybe it was expecting too much.

George Marian

They're an acquired tasted, for sure.

@GeorgeMarian I must say, that Graycliff Blue Label pairs well with The Glenlivet 12 year old.

Benjol

6:02 AM

currently timing out SEDE with a request for posts with

   body like '%thank%' or
   body like '%thx%' or
   body like 'Hi%' or
   body like 'Hello%'

Michael Mrozek

It's incredible how often I check this room to find George is talking with someone about cigars

George Marian

@MichaelMrozek :D

Shog9

yeah, wildcard body searches really don't work on SEDE

need full-text index

Benjol

@Shog9, my sql is too rusty for that :)

George Marian

I will likely put in a proposal for a cigar SE soon. I think I'm well suited for it. :)

Shog9

6:04 AM

@Benjol well, unless you want to set up your own server, you're stuck anyway.

George Marian

On a related note, I find it odd that I recently fulfilled my commitment for programmers.se, but I have yet to do so for money.se.

Benjol

@Shog9, oh, ok, I thought you meant it was full text indexed (closes msdn tab)

Shog9

I think waffles mentioned something about FT and azure not playing nice or something; that or he just hasn't gotten around to turning it on

George Marian

6:19 AM

"Comfortably numb" would be a good way to describe my current condition. A good thing, after working my tail off helping a friend power-wash moss of their roof yesterday. Talk about a PITA!

Benjol

odata.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/s/524/…

Apparently, there are lots of them :)

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