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TL&DR: Yes, do flag link-only answers. The user perspective In the past, on such link-only answers, I used to just leave a comment asking the answerer to provide context for links. I would only downvote or flag as not-an-answer (or spam if applicable) if the content of the link was not relevant...

Carrie Kendall

yeah, i found this just now: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/167953/… thanks

ProgramFOX

6:10 PM

Probably NAA flags fit too, but I never had a declined custom 'link only answer' flag, so I always flag it like that.

Jeroen Vannevel

Sidenote: link-only answers that are somewhat informative (e.g. a link to documentation that mentions the method like this: getMethod() are allowed

Carrie Kendall

@JeroenVannevel although i generally wont flag documentation link-only answers, there is still a lot of link rot on those or inaccuracy due to versioning

i usually just downvote, simply because IMHO its lazy not to include the useful information in the answer

Jeroen Vannevel

Oh I agree, even a link to the docs should have a snippet that says what the methods do and stuff

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Q: My flag on a link-only accepted answer got declined. Why?

13 days ago I flagged this answer for the "not an answer" reason. This got disputed. I asked in the chat about it and I was told by a moderator (I can't recall who it was exactly) that it probably got disputed because after all it did attempt to answer the question. He advised me to flag it as "V...

Carrie Kendall

hmm, i wouldn't really qualify that as a link-only answer

Undo

I was expecting an age-related comment on my nomination, but one concerned about my grades is awesome.

Manishearth

6:29 PM

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: DUBAI ??D?P??D??T ?S???T,(TTT)(+971555186969)(STAR))

Jan Dvorak

@Manishearth is Unicode support on the roadmap?

Undo

It should be.

rene

6-8 weeks?

Undo

More like 8-10 weeks. manish is busy

ProgramFOX

Does chat support Unicode? Let's try it: ហ

Oh yes, apparently it does.

GnomeSlice

6:33 PM

Today's Listening

Jan Dvorak

@ProgramFOX I only get a square

ProgramFOX

@JanDvorak It works fine for me in Firefox

Undo

Works on My Machine

rene

NP here

We have no sites for legal advice any more? I see an area51 proposal that got closed...

animuson

I don't think SE wants to get involved with a legal advice site.

I think there once was a Law proposal that made it to (or close to) full commitment, but they never launched it.

rene

6:46 PM

Ok, tnx

jrand

Hi, does anyone use Lynx and google open id to login to stackoverflow? It does not seem to be working for me. I am typing google.com/accounts/o8/id into the open id box and lynx browser is not logging me in. I can confirm the openid works in chrome.

rene

Is https working in lynx?

let me try, hold on

Manishearth

@JanDvorak It's a simple fix that I keep forgetting to make

rene

7:08 PM

@jrand it works for me.

I did go to https://google.com/accounts/o8/id

You did enter the url in the openid field?

jrand

@rene : yes. I assume I'm not logged in because I'm still seeing "sign up", "log in", above the top questions on the front page

I changed it to https

rene

@jrand, hmmm strange

jrand

maybe lynx is using a cached file?

jrand

8:00 PM

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Q: Why can't I log in to superuser with lynx?

I just tried to log in to superuser.com with Lynx. When trying to log in with my StackExchange account, it first gives a HTTP 418 message I'm a teapot and then Sorry, your request could not be completed because it looked suspicious. If you meant to perform an action on Super User, pleas...

support

rene

9:35 PM

Lynx is virtually useless beyond reading posts. None of the features that require javascript are available. I can't even chat from Lynx.

Doorknob

hmmm, so h2co3 really was deleted?

quite a plot twist in the election :P

rene

Looks like it, wasn't there a 7 days grace period?

Ryan Carlson

9:59 PM

@Doorknob Yeah. He'll probably regret it in a few days, though.

Doorknob

probably.

Ryan Carlson

I was sad to see him go.

Doorknob

apparently he's not the best fit for mod. -_-

rene

That depends. If you want posts up to the highest standards I would vote for him. If you're more interested in the journey other candidates might be a better choice...

hichris123

Honestly, I'm confused why you would delete your account after this...

animuson

10:11 PM

All I can say is... wow...

Doorknob

so wait, what made him do this in the first place? I wasn't around to see all the fun :P

rene

He attracted some negative comments that somehow got accelerated

hichris123

@Doorknob Basically, mad people. Read his twitter....

Doorknob

@hichris123 ok...

animuson

What's his Twitter?

Doorknob

10:18 PM

@animuson twitter.com/H2CO3_iOS

hichris123

@Doorknob Thoughts?

Doorknob

idk, kinda unclear what actually happened :P

hichris123

I'd have to find the tweet, but basically he got into a huge fight with someone over them downvoting their post, sent an email to their company, tweeted some nasty stuff... etc. @Doorknob

Hiya @Undo!

Doorknob

:/

Undo

Hiya @hichris

reads drama

Holy crap, they did delete him?

could I have all his reputation reassociated to me, plz?

Doorknob

10:24 PM

lol, I'll take 10%; that's still a lot

Undo

We lost a great player in the knowledge field. But the attitude field... no comment.

animuson

He emailed their company? What on Earth for?

hichris123

@animuson Basically saying Remove the downvote, downvotes should not be used in this case... etc. It was on the nomination...

Doorknob

wat... o_o

animuson

Why can't I view deleted nominations? ):<

Undo

10:27 PM

@animuson To remind you that you are still a mere mortal even with the diamond.

hichris123

Aha! Google cache to the rescue! i.imgur.com/cTDuZJl.png is the email... i.imgur.com/GB68FNc.png is the tweet.

Doorknob

Okay, I'm actually really glad that he withdrew from the mod election now... :O

that tweet...

hichris123

Yeah... the tweet...

Undo

The Internet never forgets...

animuson

You can only say things like that about users behind their backs in the Teacher's Lounge!

hichris123

10:29 PM

@Undo goes to break into TL

Doorknob

:P

Ben Collins

@Undo even devs don't really have a convenient way to view a deleted nomination

Undo

@hichris123 I've tried. I think the weakest link in TL protection might be the people that hand out the diamonds.

hichris123

:P

Undo

And to exploit that, you have to look helpful and nice. At which point you might as well be helpful and nice.

Hmmm, I wonder if there's a way to get the iOS app early...

hichris123

10:34 PM

I did ask Shog for diamonds.. :D

Shog9

►

Undo

Anyway, I've got to go now. Cya folks!

hichris123

@Shog9 I'm not sure if that's a true diamond... it doesn't onebox to a diamond shape.

Shog9

@hichris123 you have to rotate the outer ring a few times until the chips align correctly.

hichris123

@Shog9 And how do I do that? :P

Shog9

10:38 PM

@hichris123 you want me to explain how to use a kaleidoscope? Sorry, go ask on kaleidoscope.stackexchange.com

hichris123

> Couldn't find kaleidoscope.stackexchange.com
The Q&A site kaleidoscope.stackexchange.com doesn't seem to exist…yet.

You can vote for it to be created through our democratic, community-driven process at area51.stackexchange.com, or see a complete directory of all our Q&A sites at stackexchange.com.

You lied @Shog9!

Ooh, nice kaleidoscope...

Ben Collins

@Undo have you signed up for the alpha?

rene

10:55 PM

@Doorknob stackoverflow.com/search?q=%22please+accept%22 399

Doorknob

@rene wow meta is awesome :D

rene

I'm done for today.

Doorknob

oh, btw, this is literally a direct quote from a test I took today in school:

> Who is Baba?

@Undo @hichris ahem Did you have anything to do with this? :P

rene

At least you had his phonenumber

Doorknob

lol

hichris123

10:59 PM

@Doorknob Not that I know of... Maybe I did. I can't remember... :P

Undo

11:15 PM

@BenCollins yes. But I don't have anything to show for it yet ;(

Doorknob

anyone understand the downvote here? -_- anyway, off to do annoying valentine's day stuffs :P bye

hichris123

@Doorknob Valentine's day? :P

Doorknob

11:37 PM

lol, what did I do? I was pressing random keys in irb and I got nesting level -1 somehow...?

irb(main):014:0> }{?
irb(main):015:0> ">:}?}">}';}
irb(main):016:-1'

Ben Collins

@Doorknob the downvote happened before you edited, if that helps. Maybe the downvoter spotted your error and was just too lazy to correct you ;-)

hichris123

@Undo So what are you doing for Valentine's day? ;)

Doorknob

@BenCollins it was a minor error anyway! oh well :P

hichris123

@BenCollins What's with the Tavern watch now? :P

Ben Collins

@hichris123 I'm almost always lurking in here, just only active sometimes. Been watching pretty closely since iOS went alpha to watch for useful feedback.

also, with elections happening, it's a possible chance to interact with future mods

Doorknob

11:40 PM

like @hichris or me! :P

hichris123

So... can I report any bug I have to you on anything? :P

Ben Collins

sure - but I may just tell you to post on meta :-)

The Guy with The Hat

@hichris123 You should participate in Arduino.SE

hichris123

@TheGuywithTheHat I created an account... user 35 or something. I've been busy recently though...

You changed your name. :O

The Guy with The Hat

@hichris123 That I did

Okay, wow. I was randomly browsing SO, and I just happened to see this:

Hi Chris - if you're ok with it, I can cut and paste this into my answer and credit you. B — Michael Mullany Apr 18 '13 at 15:23

Braiam

11:52 PM

@TheGuywithTheHat cuz, ya know, accepted answer :P

The Guy with The Hat

@Braiam I was noticing that it starts with "Hi Chris -"

Undo

@BenCollins if you send it to me I would apply developer bug-finding magic to it liberally.

The Guy with The Hat

And then there's the user hichris123 in this room currently

Doorknob

"edge-cases" <-- I see what you did there. *slow clap* — Adam Maras 56 secs ago

Undo

And then Tim Stone wouldn't be able to taunt me anymore.

Doorknob

11:54 PM

uhhhh okay, that was completely unintentional, but I'm glad to get credit for something I didn't even mean to do! :D

The Guy with The Hat

@Doorknob I must be stupid, 'cuz I don't get it

Doorknob

I think it's because "edge-cases" can mean both "cases with special conditions" or "letters on the edge of the keyboard," but I'm not sure I fully get it either :P

hichris123

@TheGuywithTheHat Not anymore. :P

Doorknob

ok, walking my canine now. bye all

hichris123

Cya people.

Ben Collins

11:57 PM

@Undo I don't see that you signed up

Undo

@BenCollins really? I should have used my mSO profile link. I used the form in the Android app blog post.

Braiam