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hichris123

12:00 AM

@animuson I would ask you to post a screenshot... but you can't... :(

Undo

wants screenshot

Flyk

@animuson how much damage have you done?

I'm pretty sure that's anonymous enough to tell us

especially if you portray the numbers as a percentage

-509

out of 510, right?

out of about 2,000

12:02 AM

that's only 25%, he must have plagiarised some content as well

animuson

Sometimes, when I'm bored, I actually sit there and go through all of their answers expanding the vote counts so the scores will fix themselves...

Undo

how cruel!

Undo

12:26 AM

0

Q: Software to split one display into two or more virtual screens?

First: this is going to sound weird at first. I might be the only person that wants this. I've used two-screen setups every now and then, and I find that the separation between them helps me be more organized. On OS X, especially (and probably other platforms), maximizing a window causes it to...

^ Am I absolutely insane in wanting this?

animuson

Hmmm I've slowly knocked the queue down to 137. :x

Doorknob of Snow

anyone want to help me pick the best of the 8 domain names I've thought up (and not buy them all to troll me :P)?

Undo

@DoorknobofSnow Sure

animuson

gets his wallet out

Doorknob of Snow

here's the form I've made (to give to friends IRL): i.imgur.com/5DR078f.png

@animuson :P noooooo!

Undo

12:34 AM

I kinda like crispbit.

animuson

What is the site about?

Doorknob of Snow

@animuson programming :P

programming in general (not one specific language)

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow What about it?

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 not really anything specific... just a place to put my programming stuff and maybe a blog or something.

animuson

I agree with Undo, crispbit sounds pretty nice.

Definitely not keyboardthunder...

That just sounds... awkward...

hichris123

12:37 AM

Erm... someone approved this? stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3988181

Doorknob of Snow

they were generated automatically :P by bustaname.com

@hichris123 You should drop a comment to the reviewer who approved; he/she only has 2696 rep so maybe doesn't know.

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow I feel kinda awkward if I do that... I don't know.

Doorknob of Snow

How else is the reviewer supposed to learn?

hichris123

Mod fire? :P @animuson tell us what to do, O Master. ;)

animuson

hichris123

12:44 AM

@animuson Why are there so many comments deleted?

animuson

Like you don't already know.

Doorknob of Snow

@anim @undo Okay, thanks ;) I'll give that one an extra 2 votes

hichris123

@animuson I don't flag that much...

Doorknob of Snow

1:19 AM

it is now a tie between #4 and #5 :P

Doorknob of Snow

1:51 AM

how does this have an upvote and is not closed?!

1

Q: What is the single most influential book every beer enthusiast should read?

If you could go back in time and tell yourself to read a specific book about beer, which book would it be?

brewing taste storage serving

asked 1 hour ago

Laszlo Papp

2:05 AM

hi, close vote help? stackoverflow.com/questions/6445816/measure-bandwidth

-7

A: What is backend and frontend programming?

If you are working as a server(back end)then you only can make changes in the data base as a administer. The browser(Front end) or client can see the changes in the data and he only insert the data and cant do any changes.. EXAMPLES: FRONT END: HTML,ASP.NET BACK END:MS ACCESS,JAVA

hichris123

@LaszloPapp I would if I could... but it's deleted now and I can't CV. :P

Laszlo Papp

if you mean the former, yeah, animuson purged it. :D

animuson

Idiocy at its finest.

Doorknob of Snow

@animuson it would be better if it said "Do I have to use jQuery for this?" at the end.

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/21592767/1223693

hichris123

2:20 AM

@animuson I see you deleted my plz don't use read the manual as a close vote converastion. :P

animuson

I deleted a lot of comments there.

hichris123

Am I supposed to be happy about that?

animuson

He read it, so I'm not worried about it.

Doorknob of Snow

cv-pls stackoverflow.com/q/21592792/1223693

Braiam

where is the post that says that CW are not about the quality/propose of the question but about the "help us to improve this"

Shog9

2:24 AM

Blog - Stack Exchange: The Future of Community Wiki

Grace Note on August 19, 2011

When you mark a post community wiki on a Stack Exchange site, that means …

this post can be edited by anyone with 100 reputation

this post does not generate any reputation for anyone when upvoted or downvoted

The main advantage of community wiki — more editing — was nerfed when we introduced suggested edits. With suggested edits, anyone, even an anonymous user, can edit anything — so long as another experienced user reviews and approves their edit.

This leaves many wondering — what’s the point of Community Wiki? …

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Give me the cv powar plz. :P

Doorknob of Snow

serial upvotes @hichris

hichris123

I'm over a third of the way there from 2k to 3k... so bounty anyone? :)

burn-plz-now meta.stackoverflow.com/a/219816/237685

Braiam

@Shog9 btw, can you kill this? aparently there's fun again in AU

hichris123

@Braiam They posted a mSO answer... burned within a few minutes on mSO. :P

burn-again-plz meta.stackoverflow.com/a/219817/237685

I... just got mentioned by them...

And flag the comments too.

Doorknob of Snow

2:35 AM

@hichris123 wat? O_O

animuson

With an open finger? What does that even mean?

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow You don't want to know...

Doorknob of Snow

lol

hichris123

@animuson Your guess is as good as mine.

Doorknob of Snow

Does he realize that if he posts another answer that it will be auto-protected, and he won't be able to post here anymore? — Doorknob of Snow 15 secs ago

"it will be auto-protected" - intentionally being vague to scare him off :P

I'm not really lying...

hichris123

2:36 AM

@DoorknobofSnow This user (not sure if the same one or another account) posted... fill in the blanks...

Doorknob of Snow

@hichris123 I can see deleted answers too -_-

animuson

I'm not 100% sure the auto-protection pays attention to deleted accounts. I think it might require an actual number there. We'll find out I guess.

hichris123

@DoorknobofSnow Well then, nevermind. Good thing I don't have to deal with that...

@animuson T-3 ish minutes for another post maybe?

Doorknob of Snow

@animuson I thought it was 3 deleted posts by <10 rep users.

animuson

@DoorknobofSnow But a deleted account doesn't have a reputation.

Doorknob of Snow

2:38 AM

ah, yes.

hichris123

He posts like every 6 minutes... so now ish.

Doorknob of Snow

maybe my comment stopped him! (hopefully)

hichris123

Pingy me if you need a flag...

Doorknob of Snow

@DoorknobofSnow Well, he probably does now. Not sure you did anyone any favors by cluing him into that, honestly. — HopelessN00b 2 mins ago

that's got to convince him :D

(not sure if that was intentional or just actually expressing disagreement, but it could have the same effect either way)

hichris123

@Doorknob Can you see deleted comments?

Doorknob of Snow

2:42 AM

@hichris123 Only mods can.

hichris123

Oh, okay.

I still see the comment in my inbox...

@Undo is going to be sad he missed this. ;)

user202362

I thought anyone who has certain amount of reps can see deleted comments too ... or is it only deleted answers?

animuson

Only deleted posts.

user202362

deleted posts = deleted questions & answers?

animuson

Yeah.

Braiam

2:55 AM

@hichris123 that gravatar creeps me out D:

hichris123

@Braiam It should. :P

Laszlo Papp

-5

Q: make all textviews scrolling

how to make all textviews scrolling at once i have 6 textviews i want them all scrolling

android textview marquee

hichris123

> voluntarily removed by its author

I'm suprised they were smart enough to delete it...

0

A: How to zoom in display of device for android?

This question is inappropriate as it's not a programming question. However what you want is magnification gestures. This was included into Android 4.1 but may not be included by all manufacturers.

... so why'd you answer it?

Braiam

3:11 AM

@hichris123 huh? nope...

> Post Undeleted by Kelvin
occurred 1 min ago

Post Deleted by Kelvin

hichris123

What? Why?

Braiam

'cuz OP is smart

hichris123

I just rolled it back, it's a completly different question.

joeytje50

guys

stackoverflow.com/questions/20830755/…

@mods please freeze this question

OP keeps vandalising it

I'm getting a bit tired of reverting it

see edit history

hichris123

@animuson ^^ locky maybe?

joeytje50

3:14 AM

also guys, don't downvote, you'll just feed the trolls

I've already flagged it

Braiam

now DV is feeding the trolls... this is getting ridiculous

joeytje50

but mods haven't responded yet, so I decided to come in here to report it for faster action

hichris123

@joeytje50 When you ping mods... stuff happens. :P

joeytje50

idk who the mods are

hichris123

Animuson is a mod... he just rolled it back again.

And... he locked it. Yayz!

Braiam

3:15 AM

@joeytje50 just keep pinging everyone in the room until you get a mod

joeytje50

tyvm

mk

Braiam

(PLEASE DON'T!)

joeytje50

next time I'll just ping one random most-recently active person

hichris123

@Braiam I should make a tool to do that... gets idea :P

joeytje50

and then perhaps they'll know

stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3988745 stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/3988775

animuson

3:17 AM

Generally just posting a message here will get someone to ping a moderator for you, if you're not aware of who they are.

joeytje50

those are kinda worrying though

Braiam

@joeytje50 don't do that either...

joeytje50

both those edits are really very good, and it's good this Jim guy spotted it

Braiam

sometimes the more recent user is someone saying "bye"

joeytje50

mk

so what I did was best?

hichris123

3:18 AM

@joeytje50 Reviewers need to actually look at the edit. Those are good edits...

joeytje50

@hichris123 I know, that's why I approved them both ;)

but what I'm saying is that others didn't, which is worrying

hichris123

@joeytje50 Yeah, if it's an extreme case like that don't hesitate to bother us here. ;) If, of course, it's not a private matter.

joeytje50

well, a little bit

it does show that reviewers are just hastily going through the list without paying real attention

hichris123

@joeytje50 It is a real problem... people are trying to figure out how to fix it... it's an ongoing discussion and a hard problem to solve.

Laszlo Papp

@hichris123: nah, the question is back now. :)

animuson

3:20 AM

I have a feeling if he had used a more detailed and clear edit summary, like "Destruction of own content, rolling back to original version" - those edits might have gotten more approves.

joeytje50

perhaps, probably the summary on the second rollback edit was particularly bad

animuson

"Please stop the madness" certainly isn't a very good edit summary.

joeytje50

indeed, but still the first one should most definitely not have been rejected so easily

hichris123

@LaszloPapp Yeah... the first question still isn't a good one either. ;)

@animuson Curious, if they gave me a diamond would your life be a lot easier? :P

binarysubstrate

Hey all. Where would I report suspicious behavior?

animuson

3:23 AM

What kind of suspicious behavior?

hichris123

@binarysubstrate Depends what kind.

binarysubstrate

Two, brand-new, users posting code, then editing, then re-rediting it. Has nothing to do with the question:

String scriptExecute = "cmd /c start d:\tryCommand.bat hi sun"
Runtime.getRuntime().exec(cmd);

http://stackoverflow.com/a/21593326/3182836
http://stackoverflow.com/a/21593263/3182836

hichris123

Darn, I just flagged the wrong answer. :P

joeytje50

@binarysubstrate where does it say that?

binarysubstrate

@joey, check the edit history on this one: stackoverflow.com/a/21593263/3182836

joeytje50

3:25 AM

ah

hichris123

Or, no I didn't. Nevermind.

binarysubstrate

Seems like he's fishing for an exploit or something.

joeytje50

flagged them both.

@binarysubstrate in the future when you see suspicious behaviour, and it's not urgent, you can just flag it and a mod will get to it.

animuson

From what I can tell it seems to be two random users that just happened to post utter crap on the same question.

The fact that they both just deleted their answers within a second of each other makes it look even more suspicious though... Hmmm

joeytje50

@animuson perhaps 2 friends who decided this would be a fun waste of time

binarysubstrate

3:31 AM

Yeah, it feel really dubious to me. It's the same person using two accounts, editing, re-editing, deleting before it become a community wiki and then probably moving on to another post.

user202362

3:45 AM

Manishearth

4:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: Accept user input and multiply by 0.00000116414, copy results to clipboard

hichris123

@Manish That's not a phone number...

Undo

Meh, close enough!

hichris123

Ooh, @Undo fun stuff happened while you were gone.

Undo

@hichris123 What did I miss?

I'm having a hard time in my transcript-parsing

TCPMAN.EXE

888-867-5309

hichris123

4:32 AM

Go to the post I put burn-plz beside...

Undo

Also, I have returned to once again find SR still in existence. So it has been a good day and I am happy.

hichris123

@Undo Also, I'm 70 rep from 2500

Undo

@hichris123 Do I really want to click those links?

Nope, I didn't :P

hichris123

Not really, no. But clicky anyway.

I got that as a comment to me too...

Undo

A comment? But how?

hichris123

4:34 AM

I don't know. It still shows in my inbox though... :(

Undo

:(

Should I ping you a bunch and make it go away?

hichris123

Nah, that's annoying, and you don't want to be annoying, right?

:P

Undo

No.

I suppose not.

Drat.

hichris123

I did get 1 more flag/day on Meta because of it. :P

Undo

No one's removed that pesky SR nomination yet. ;(

hichris123

4:37 AM

And? :)

Undo

... I still can't figure out what to do with it.

hichris123

Sleep on it. Again.

Undo

I suppose...

animuson

You have a couple of weeks to think about that.

If the site is still even around at that point.

Undo

Yeah, forgot about that part.

hichris123

4:39 AM

And then you commit to the Moderators site. :D

Undo

Meh, I'll lay off deciding on it until I can see just how much help SR needs.

TCPMAN.EXE

5:17 AM

silkroad.stackexchange.com?

Dennis Meng

5:40 AM

Do we have something like catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html, but tailored to StackExchange? The ex-TA in me is itching for something that elaborates on everything that's touched on in the help center regarding question asking

Manishearth

5:56 AM

@hichris123 improve the regex then!

:p

Manishearth

7:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: INSTALLING WINDOWS PROGRAMS AND LEXMARK X4650 PRINTER

Manishearth

7:50 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: CAN NOT MAKE A BOOTABLE UBUNTU ISO IMAGE

Manishearth

8:09 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SNORT NOT SHOWING DROPPED/BLOCKED PACKETS

Flyk

morning

Tim Post

Good golly miss molly, people SURE love their caps lock keys

michaelb958

Evening.

Tim Post

I worked with a guy that used caps lock for shift. He would not press shift, he would press caps lock, the key he wanted shifted, then caps lock again. The nerd rage I felt from seeing that was legendary.

Flyk

@TimPost definitely a strong case for adding caps filtering to the quality filter

both title and body

maybe I'll make an MSO post and steal some easy internet points

There, consider internet points stolen.

michaelb958

8:22 AM

@Flyk Here, have internet points.

Flyk

thanks

I shall add them to the box I keep the rest of my internet points in

Pops

@TimPost I've known good software engineers who do that, just because they developed the habit very early on and it's now so muscle-memorized that it would actually not be a productivity gain to learn the right way at this point.

jmac

@TimPost This is a lot more normal than you think. At least in Japan. My personal pet peeve is the Japanese habit of adding formatting seemingly at random every other word in a sentence to show that it is important

On Japanese keyboards you usually have to hold down shift-caps to actually get it to switch over, my personal theory is that whoever designed keyboards here was equally peeved and realized he could do something about it.

SPArchaeologist

@jmac - you never played Zelda, didn't you? :P

Bart

I wish I could say that the subsequent ALL CAPS comments weren't predictable @Flyk :)

jmac

8:33 AM

@SPArchaeologist I seem to be missing the punchline here. What does Zelda have to do with caps lock?

Flyk

@Bart well, I aim to please

SPArchaeologist

@jmac - formatting- formatting everywhere.

they feel the need to make every "important" word in each sentence red

I love the games, but that is the only thing that still gives me nerves each time.

jmac

Yeah, that's a Japanese thing.

Bart

jmac

They love it. Red underlined sentences everywhere. It's like a disease.

Flyk

8:36 AM

@TimPost is just a troll restrained by his Stack Exchange masters

holy buzzing, this meta post is turning my phone into a vibrator

SPArchaeologist

@bard - was just going to upload that. Kudos for preceding me :P

jmac

My favorite part of my last job was when I was asked to translate presentations, complete with proper red underlines. I pointed out that in English it's bad form. They said, "But you need to include the red underlines, they are in the Japanese!"

Flyk

A lot of people voting to close it without realising it's a different question

c'est la vie

Pops

@Flyk It's hilarious that you think we have any control over Tim.

Flyk

@Pops I see, this is interesting information that I can use in the future

jmac

8:38 AM

@Flyk the contrast between this sentence and the one that follows really makes me fear for the future of humanity. Please tell me that these two are not related.

Flyk

I am now less than 100 reputation away from 4k rep on MSO

@jmac oh... er... I... :$

Have you seen @TimPost?

no, let's quickly change the subject before this escalates quickly as well

so, them cakes

Pops

Ahh, 4k rep. Notable because it's the first thousand-rep threshold that is in no way notable.

Flyk

so tasty

@Pops yes

I am going to get to at least 10k on MSO this year.

jmac

@Pops 4k rep is actually 7640 rep, if you're missing two fingers.

Flyk

because 10k is another boring rep threshold

Bart

8:40 AM

4k rep. The first time you think "That's quite some rep .... what am I doing with my life?"

Tim Post

I love it when people give me unexpected outlets for purely juvenile behavior. Thanks, @Flyk.

2

Flyk

the only interesting privilege levels are at 125 rep and 20k

@TimPost no problem, I hope you're going to reopen this post as not a duplicate when it gets closed :P

oh, that's not going to happen, people are retracting their close votes

Pops

@Bart I thought that was "rep-capping on meta."

Flyk

what a good feature that is

now, if only you could retract delete votes

wait a minute, that sounds like a meta post

@Bart eh, I got 30k rep on gaming in "6 months"

wink

Bart

Nooo @Pops. No, that is a good and very useful thing that happened to me 60 times now and is by no means a reflection of how miserable and empty my life really is ...

jmac

8:43 AM

For April Fool's can we remap everyone's keyboards to dvorak?

Pops

@jmac Too far, man. Too far.

Bart

Jan Dvorak @jmac?

Tim Post

@Flyk Behold the power of caps.

jmac

Okay @Pops, you're right. That is too far. Can you unsuspend all users who got question banned for a day but make that change just to them? Or is that cruel and unusual punishment?

Tim Post

I've got a Razer black widow (2013) - I disabled caps lock, and re-mapped other useless keys to be useful.

Like programming m1 - m5 to hold links to memes, because that stuff is important.

Flyk

8:45 AM

@TimPost -.-

I heard a song for the first time yesterday

it's not a new song

but it contains the lyrics "I am a fire, you're gasoline"

jmac

@jmac slaps @TimPost around with a large trout

Flyk

which I felt was symbolic of the relationship I have with certain people on here

but then it followed on with "come pour yourself all over me"

and well... that's just dirty

my phone is still buzzing

jmac

Know what's even worse than saying it without acknowledging its dirty nature? Saying you acknowledge it's dirty nature while still sharing it.

Flyk

I think I have that bug @FEichinger had the other day?

@jmac I acknowledge the dirty nature

Tim Post

Wish I could figure out how to map alt and ctrl bindings for the m1 - m5 macro keys on this keyboard. It seems like it should be possible.

SPArchaeologist

8:48 AM

@Flyk - they just sent me a notice about a new pc game... you could post that on Arqade and see the reaction

jmac

What I don't get is why peripherals and wireless routers are so bloody user unfriendly.

SPArchaeologist

Goat Simulator - alpha stage: youtube.com/watch?v=WgTQglGvNUs

jmac

You need to be a rocket scientist to figure either one out. The concept of plug and play has become plug and pray. Totally worthless user interfaces that require an internet engineer™ to figure out.

Flyk

@SPArchaeologist oh, @GnomeSlice already posted that

you can't beat @GnomeSlice at finding the weirdest games

SPArchaeologist

..... mumble... I really should extend my account to that site and have some fun.

Flyk

8:52 AM

careful, we're a picky bunch

SPArchaeologist

they had compared me to James AVGN so...

Flyk

ah, I guess I'm getting closed afterall

Bart

Ping me if that happens @Flyk

PeeHaa

9:10 AM

Any SO people awake yet?

8

Q: Crawling the chat transcripts

I want to make a usable chat search and in order to do this I want to gather the chat messages from SO. AFAIK chat is not in the data dump nor is it available through the API. So I want to crawl the chat transcripts for messages. As a test I will start with the transcript of room 11 by starting...

support chat

rene

@PeeHaa you would expect that if you implement something to back-off when you get 503's and have a useragent that is tied to your effort you should be fine. I experienced ip based rate-limiting once when I was hammering as a 'normal' user on the new login functionality on meta.

PeeHaa

Yeah I assume that too, but I would like to prevent 503 when possible and just want to be a nice guy and ask before starting up the crawler :)

Manishearth

9:27 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: IIS 7.5 / WFF / ARR

SPArchaeologist

@Flyk - The goat simulator game has opened a door that should have remained closed. I have discovered that "The you testament" had a sequel. Way to go... Offensive for a bible based game, total nosense as a game.

Manishearth

10:08 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: WINDOWS 8 FONT CACHE

rene

I put a suggested edit in the queue ^^^^

Tim Post

THANK YOU

Manishearth

10:29 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: JQUERY DIALOG BOX ERROR

Flyk

@Bart it happened

Bart

Done @Flyk

Flyk

how disappointing

wtb less roboreviewers

@Bart ta

Manishearth

11:16 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: QUESTION ON LINEAR PROGRAAMIONG PROBLEM

[ SmokeDetector ] Phone number detected: asp.net mvc 4.0 linq query with datetime field returns something like this /Date(1391600738810)/

Bart

^^^nope @Manishearth

Flyk

need one more reopen vote

for great justice

Manishearth

11:46 AM

[ SmokeDetector ] All-caps title: SAS PROC MIXED RANDOM STATEMENT

rene

12:21 PM

Great, page 9 of the formatting sandbox breaks IE11...

I assume microsoft does something usefull with the memorydump WER just send to them?

demongolem

1:00 PM

Don't the tags counts update on a daily basis at the end of the day? I thought so, but my answers from yesterday have not updated my tag counts.

Bart

And you did get votes?

rene

Which tag?

Bart

All your answers from yesterday (if we're talking SO) are 0-score.

demongolem

Yes but there is like x80 for java and acm-java-libraries x 2. The latter should be x6 I know.

The former x85 now

Bart

Ah, you mean the "number of posts" figure

demongolem

1:08 PM

yes that is it

Bart

Not sure on what schedule that updates.

Or if there are other reasons. Are there some that are community wiki?

demongolem

No, none were community wiki I don't think

rene

Did questions or answers get deleted?

demongolem

No still there

Or at least other q and a would not be deleted at that clip

Bart

There are 10 that are community wiki. So that wouldn't explain it either. stackoverflow.com/search?q=user%3A236247+%5Bjava%5D+wiki%3Ayes

Can't find any info on this. I'm guessing something that should have run didn't. Maybe see if it's still the case tomorrow.

demongolem

1:17 PM

Ok I'll check back then.

rene

If I look at the answer times for your acm-java-libraries tag they are not answered yesterday but today

2 are 1 day old, 4 are answered between 22 and 23 hours ago

The stackexchange day has not yet ended for those answers

Jeroen Vannevel

I have the feeling some text is missing on questions. Didn't there used to be some text right above the 'asked', 'viewed' and 'active' statuses on a question?

Bart

Hmm, can't see I find anything to be missing

Jeroen Vannevel

I could've sworn that upper right spot used to be more populated

rene

On SO or meta?

Jeroen Vannevel

1:23 PM

aha!

You're right

Meta shows the tags in upper right corner

SO doesn't

I knew something was missing

Bart

I'm seriously surprised by how much stuff I just ignore on sites.

Tim Post

1:47 PM

I'm a little blind to the right sidebar after five years of practically ignoring it. These days I notice it mostly just to check if a feature post had propagated to the bulletin.

Bart

@TimPost meta.stackoverflow.com/users/251105/please-make-me-mod-or-i-cum

Left a comment here: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/219862/…

Tim Post

Lovely