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7:00 PM
Hah
It's funny because of context
 
Ok, I've got the pings! :-)
Finally..
 
@IonicăBizău You owe me a cookie.
 
@qwertynl What you mean?
 
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Q: How many spaces should come after a period/full stop?

PopsIn the past — or at least, when I was in elementary school — periods/full stops were followed by two spaces. Lately, it's become more and more common to see just one space. In the modern world, should we still use two spaces between sentences, or is just one okay? Does it depend on the situati...

cc @TCPMAN.EXE @jadarnel27 @LanceRoberts @3ventic (and yes, I know I'm late to that party, I somehow lost my Tavern tab yesterday)
 
I think I've read that.
 
7:14 PM
\o/
Someone mentioned me!
 
@TCPMAN.EXE ...are we not supposed to do that?
 
\o/
 
You are absurdly good at asking interesting questions, @Pops.
 
All the easy ones are still available early in betas.
 
7:29 PM
@Pops I like to go through the A51 sites about to launch into private beta, take the highest voted example question, research it like crazy, and write an awesome answer. When the site goes public, I use the A51 link to get in, then post and answer the question.
I need a hobby :P
 
I agree.
I mean, uh, thanks for helping!
 
Hehe
It's primarily a ploy to increase my network rep by using initial site enthusiasm :P
 
I have no idea where to ask this/how to ask this, so I have come here! Is there a feed for all of a users' activity across StackExchange? There are RSS feeds for all of the individual sites but there does not appear to be one for all of them together?
 
Good question.
 
@meiamsome You mean like this feed?
 
7:35 PM
@3ventic He's asking for a user activity feed over the network.
 
I can't find it.
 
Oh
 
I am back! Well I got killed here:
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Q: Shouldn't I be able to flag while suspended on chat?

qwertynlI was (for some reason or another) suspended in the tavern. I am trying to flag a random message for a moderator, but the system is not letting me because it thinks it is a "vote" and I get this message: What is going on here? And if someone can, can you remove my suspension? :-) Side poi...

Thanks @IonicăBizău lol
Why did I get flagged?
 
@qwertynl He didn't exactly ask for that response, ya know :P
I wondered if it would get flagged.
 
7:41 PM
@UndotheSnowman twas a joke. Why? You flagged?
People have no humor...
 
I didn't.
I wasn't even here to handle the flag.
@qwertynl Meh, twas a poor joke at best, and quite offensive at worst.
But we can move on now.
 
... thanks.... now i am down 10 fake rep points :-P
yay fake rep! ^_^
 
@qwertynl What?
How...
 
2 mins ago, by qwertynl
-5
Q: Shouldn't I be able to flag while suspended on chat?

qwertynlI was (for some reason or another) suspended in the tavern. I am trying to flag a random message for a moderator, but the system is not letting me because it thinks it is a "vote" and I get this message: What is going on here? And if someone can, can you remove my suspension? :-) Side poi...

 
they actually remove SE rep when you get chat-suspended? I though that was some kind of hollow threat.
Oh, on your question.
 
7:43 PM
@UndotheSnowman silly you...
 
7:56 PM
@ElfSlice When are you going back to being a Gnome?
@Undo Did you get your swag mail yet?
 
@hichris123 I have to wait until Jan 12 before I can change my name again.
30 days and all that
 
@hichris123 Nope. Today, though, says the pinned message.
 
@ElfSlice Me likes you being an Elf. Me can abuse you! :P
@Undo Are you checking your email like every second?
 
@ElfSlice No. you can revert very easily by pushing you name on a different site to all other sites
It used to work.
 
I tried that, gave me the same message.
 
7:58 PM
@ElfSlice When did they change that?
 
@hichris123 Every minute.
 
shrug
I didn't try very hard.
I only tried on Meta SO.
 
@UndotheSnowman Write a script to do it for you, every milisecond.
 
@ElfSlice lol so try on a diff site
 
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Q: Name Change Limiting can be Broken

TreeSteps to reproduce: Change your name on Stack Overflow. After some time it won't allow to change your name again for one month Create user account in Super User or change your name on Super User with the same OpenID Go to Stack Overflow and associate your account with Super User Now the n...

 
7:59 PM
@hichris123 I bet Google has something special in store for those that do that.
 
@ElfSlice Meta Stack Overflow: the least you can do!
 
> Oops! There was a problem updating your profile: Display name may only be changed once every 30 days; you may change again in 10 days
From English.SE
 
Try on a site where you're not yet registered
 
@3ventic ding!
 
@ElfSlice Go to a random site, change your name to GnomeSlice, click 'apply to all acounts'
 
8:00 PM
@Undo At least they can't keep you from flagging comments. :P
 
I just changed mine back to Undo
 
@UndotheSnowman I did. English.SE
@3ventic Oh.
I don't want to make a new account on a site I don't give a shit about.
 
@hichris123 They are Google - they can lock me out of SE by invalidating my OpenID.
 
I'll just wait till the 12th. ;]
 
@ElfSlice You can delete it if you don't vote or post with it
 
8:01 PM
@Undo You don't use SE as your OpenID?
 
@hichris123 I think I have an SE openID too, but Google is what I always use.
 
I use Steam
 
I use SE for sockpuppets
Google for my main, I guess.
 
eh, I downvoted two answers from the same person in a short while because they were poor, and left comments how I would improve it, or why they do not address the concern.
 
I don't remember.
 
8:02 PM
I haz a sockpuppet!
 
and I got 3 downvotes in a queue, including the alternative answer I provided, and two other (otherwise upvoted, and also accepted answer). :)
 
I have a sockpuppet.
 
@ElfSlice You mean sockpuppets to get you out of that word?
 
I don't know how to log into it
 
8:02 PM
@UndotheSnowman So does everyone. Join the bar mitzvah :-D
 
@Undo Backwords.
 
and I don't know how to log out of it.
 
@hichris123 No, that's not what I use them for.
 
@ElfSlice Then what?
 
Usually I use them for chatting because I like how much nicer people are to me when they don't know who I am.
 
8:03 PM
Hehe
 
But they always figure out it's me pretty quickly.
 
I have a sockpuppet too! (Never use it though)
 
Poor ElfSlice
 
Why are people mean to Elves?
@ElfSlice Did I spell it right?
 
8:04 PM
@3ventic InPrivate
 
@hichris123 Yes. :P
 
Hehe. I was expecting to see a suspended user :P
 
lol
 
it will not probably be caught by the serial downvoter script since it is just three downvotes.
 
I can't log out of it anymore
Maybe the login will expire before I try next time
 
8:05 PM
worth reporting though? I do not mind -6 reputation, but I would like the person to stop it in the future.
 
@3ventic Idea: Reinstall Windows. Or trash your computer and buy a new one. Problem solved.
 
@LaszloPapp How far apart are they?
 
I don't have any sock puppets.
 
@jadarnel27 Liar. :P
 
@UndotheSnowman Is he pregnant or something?
 
8:06 PM
@hichris123 the only thing I'm going to do with my computer in the near future is install a new graphics card.
 
@animuson ???
 
@UndotheSnowman: what do you mean by they?
 
@Undo We have a mod.
 
Le downvotes.
@hichris123 Oh yeah!
@animuson, wanna head off a bunch of flags?
 
@Undo That's the first thing doctors ask when a woman calls them and they're concerned they're going into labor.
 
8:07 PM
@animuson sigh
 
@animuson How do you know this?
 
Have you never watched The Cosby Show? Sheesh.
 
@animuson We like to give mods options: Either we hand them SEDE query to nuke comments from, or we flag them with our flagger scripts.
 
@UndotheSnowman: you are asking the difference between the time, i.e. how many minutes?
 
Good, I thought you were a stalker. @animuson
 
8:08 PM
@LaszloPapp Yes
 
Shouldn't the have something like DON'T USE THIS TAG? as I assumed was agreed based on this
 
Hmmm my Internet speed isn't top notch right now so I'm not sure how well I could keep up. I'm downloading all the Grand Theft Auto games from Steam.
 
@rene Doesn't it?
 
@UndotheSnowman: two in the same (including one of them being a very long thread with very long reply), and the third is about 5 minutes away.
 
Not for me
 
8:09 PM
@LaszloPapp Possible they're not from the same guy.
 
@animuson Is blacklisted or just burniated?
 
@UndotheSnowman: it happened right after I downvotes two poor answers from a low-rep person.
 
@LaszloPapp You can't downvote if rep<125
 
@UndotheSnowman: one of the downvotes is the compelling answer for his poor answer (of course I was leaving a comment, the downvoter did not)
@UndotheSnowman: he has 300
 
@animuson ThiefMaster wrote a nice script for the mass-deletion of comments. No fast internet needed.
@LaszloPapp Meh, I would say that 3 isn't anything to worry about.
 
8:10 PM
@UndotheSnowman: also, it seems his reputation dropped as much as the downvotes
 
@hichris123 Just burned.
 
anything is worrying that is serial for childish revenge.
 
@3ventic Where is that? link?
 
8:12 PM
@3ventic Because meta.
 
@animuson does that mean that every time that tags popups again I retag those question?
 
@3ventic you already commented, it was a reply to your comment
no @ required
 
@LaszloPapp When it gets like this, then you start worrying:
 
It's probably because I'm the only one who commented before it?
 
 
8:12 PM
@rene Well the tag no longer exists, so it would require a user with 1,500 reputation to be able to create it again.
 
@Undo SOMEBODY WUBS YOU
 
hehe
 
@UndotheSnowman: no, that is not worrying, since that will be reverted.
 
I want to go view my reputation history but at the same time I don't.
 
@animuson That happend I just retagged 4 questions
 
8:13 PM
@Laszlo That's August 20th.
 
(it was reverted)
 
@UndotheSnowman: when someone is trying to trick the system with only limited downvotes (3 in a row and nothing after or before for a while...), that looks suspicious to put it mildly.
 
Still could be a coincidence - stranger things have happened.
 
and especially after two downvotes, and accidentally, changing reputation with the downvote rep loss. :)
 
Is @balpha around in here? @TimStone let the Chat Feedback room get frozen again, and I wanted to make a minor complaint.
 
8:15 PM
meh, if it is ok, I will follow this strategy, too.
since it seems to be encouraged.
 
@jadarnel27 Just make it here and ping me. Or post on meta. The Chat Feedback room really has outlived its usefulness.
 
Ah, fair enough.
@balpha When I click "load older messages" on mobile, and a message where I was pinged gets revealed, it shows the "mention" icon (even when I've already dismissed it).
 
@balpha Can we have a way better version of mobile chat, possibly on the app?
2
 
Yes yes yes yes
 
@balpha See what happens when you're helpful? You should've just said that chat is finally perfect, and therefore you will neither need nor accept any further feedback.
 
8:19 PM
@jadarnel27 okay, I'll look
 
Sorry, @balpha. Didn't mean to open the flood gates of whining about the mobile chat interface. And thanks for taking a look.
 
Whine whine whine
 
@Pops I'm creating work for him. He needs to earn his paycheck, right?
 
Don't be ridiculous! That's a slippery slope to them making me do work for my paycheck!
3
 
@jadarnel27 Meh, it's not that I disagree. I don't think mobile chat is horrible, but its far away from perfect
@hichris123 For the next six weeks you're out of luck :)
I'm on parental leave
 
8:21 PM
@Pops What do you do, anyway? Just sit back and watch the other CM's do stuff?
wants job
 
@balpha Aww...
So 6-8 weeks?
 
I prefer to refer to it as "training."
 
@Pops relaxing cough
 
@Pops Do you have access to all the shiny CM things?
(next question: can I haz screenshotz?)
 
@Undo Nice try. :P
 
8:23 PM
Things only get shiny if you polish them. And that counts as "work."
 
@balpha Oh wow, I didn't know that. Congrats!
If "parental leave" means what I think it does.
 
@balpha That Jeff hair suits you very well. Scarily well.
 
@jadarnel27 Yeah, I'm a bit private about these things. And he's already over a year old.
 
@jadarnel27 Yeah, his parents made him leave the site for a while for a time-out.
5
 
have a star for that
 
8:24 PM
Yaaay
 
If anyone is interested:
in JavaScript on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 mins ago, by qwertynl
Document for NYC meetup : https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OMo8Ps1-FN_9haXJu8Qf8ypFi3GtTGgpg024mSNOE5E/‌​edit For some reason google is not letting me share
:-)
 
The reason is probably that Google knows Stack Exchange is not a social network.
 
No, Stack Exchange is a person's life.
 
"get agoob"???
 
@Undo: I warned the person constructively in private while apologizing for the bothering if it was not him (although it is very suspicious). It is likely better for him than a moderator doing it if it is really him and he continues it.
 
8:35 PM
@DoorknobofSnow It was probably Tim Post's 8-year-old-daughter that wrote that, give them a break :P
 
@Undo But what is it even supposed to mean? :P
 
@DoorknobofSnow Job.
 
That Tim Post gives his daughter lined paper for drawing instead of proper blank drawing paper. Tisk tisk.
3
 
ooooookay... I'm not sure how "agoob" turns into "job" but I guess that works...
 
With two o's and a questionable J - it's perfectly reasonable.
 
8:37 PM
@TinyTim respond to this? :P
 
Do hats go off in two + hours?
 
@hichris123 In a day and two + hours, methinks.
 
@Undo "until January 3rd"
 
> the hats get put back in their boxes on January 4th!
 
@Undo That's 2012...
 
May 16 '12 at 14:29, by Tim ManishEarth
On first page:
No clue if it still works
 
Neato.
 
@Undo Huh.
 
Anyone else work in NYC? :-)
 
@Mr.Peanut Why did everyone have Tim at the beginning of their names then?
 
@hichris123 see the many memes of meta post
 
@Mr.Peanut Thought it was refering to that, wasn't sure though.
When are you changing your name back?
 
@hichris123 look closely
 
@Mr.Peanut I guess that means F5.
Nope, chat still is caching your old name.
Oh, and did this really get upvoted: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/214712/…?
Apparently it did... upvote.
 
9:19 PM
Since @TinyTim historical-locked meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/212433/…, I have to put this here now:
    To the melody of The Mamas & The Papas - California Dreamin'
    (youtube.com/watch?v=N-aK6JnyFmk)
    ------------------------------------------------------------

    All the hats are gone
                     All the hats are gone
    Did the site just crash?
                             Did the site just crash?
    I'm surfing the web
                    I'm surfing the web
    Without Winter Bash.
                         Without Winter Bash.
    I'd wear "Do the Swim!"
                     I'd wear "Do the Swim!"
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@balpha Congrats! :D
 
@balpha Do the hats disapear today or tomorow?
 
@hichris123 tomorrow iirc
 
you have about 26.5 hours left
 
Why's it say until January 3rd then?
 
9:23 PM
it's inclusive
 
@hichris123 timezone math
 
Maybe you need to hire an English major? :P
 
Technically saying "until January 3rd" allows you to end it at any point of time on January 3rd..
 
Or right before January 3rd starts.
 
9:26 PM
Ahh, wasn't that linked in one of the last broadcasts?
 
@balpha Your point is invalid because none of us have said the words well actually, actually, or well.
 
(Don't have the time to listen to it, but I always read the summary)
 
Well, actually, you can say "well, actually" without saying "well, actually" either actually or well.
 
Don't you have more important stuff to do? :P
Rather than debate the English language?
 
I like my new hat.
 
9:30 PM
@JohannesKuhn I'm skeptical of that.
 
@balpha Giving me a dedicated place to rant and rave knows no end to its usefulness!
 
I ran out of flags yesterday. Today, I got this hat.
 
yawns
 
Hey guys, anybody know how often tag scores refresh on StackOverflow?
 
Around 03:00 UTC each day.
 
9:36 PM
How come it's a scheduled task? Seems like it could be an instant update kind of thing (granted, I don't know how it works internally)
 
We got a lot of new users on Programming Puzzles & Code Golf, so I flagged a lot of the new posts as VLQ and downvoted them. Welcome.
 
@RUJordan Caching
It's always caching.
 
Caching is good.
 
@RUJordan There are associated badges (which can be revoked), so it has to check the conditions for all users.
 
@RUJordan No. If you have to execute several statements instead of a single one (or 2) for each up/downvote, things would be slower.
 
9:38 PM
Word, gotcha. Thanks, that's all I needed to know
 
(on the post is a score row, and there is a vote table with all the votes - they shouldn't be chached, so 1 UPDATE and 1 INSERT).
 
@Undo The problem with me getting rep is I flag almost everything I can answer. :P
 
rofl
 
As duplicate?
 
No.
Take for example this:
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Q: How can I fill an array with sorted integers...e.g {0,1,2...10.....1000}

user3155191I would be grateful if you could help me with a small question I have. I would like to know if it is possible to fill a new array with already sorted integers :/ e.g {0,1,2...10.....1000}, but when I have a large number of integers, for example 12000

 
9:40 PM
My problem with getting rep is that I downvote too much answers.
 
Hrm. I just wrote an answer, and the OP deleted the question like 60-90 seconds later.
That's frustrating.
 
An array is a bad idea if you want to loop over 12000 numbers.
Use a collection. (And is better)
 
I have been ripped off of somewhere between 0 and 25 points!
What a great injustice.
 
I don't think I've ever heard this statistic framed this way, and it makes a lot of sense. cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/…
 
Dammit SO, why do you have to strip me of my see-vote-counts privilege :(
 
9:44 PM
@3ventic Where? You don't have anywhere near 1k on SO.
 
But I have on MSO and Arqade and I'm too used to it
which is why going on other SE sites sucks
 
Oh, yeah. Terrible, isn't it.
 
I'm just clicking numbers and all it does is highlight it for me
 
I know that feeling. Had them on SO and PCG first, but missed them on meta
 
I want it on mSO.
 
9:45 PM
That's one privilege that would probably be better as a network rep requirement rather than per site..
 
40
Q: "View Vote totals" without 1000 rep

Rob W Screenshot About The vote counts are a great tool to determine whether an answer is disputed or not. Unfortunately, not many of us have enough time to join all Stack Exchange websites and get 1000 reputation. This script unlocks the "View Vote counts" feature for those who are not logge...

I can always see vote counts :-)
 
@qwertynl thanks
 
@3ventic Happy to help :-D
 
People sure seem to love QWERTY, but nobody gives any mention to UIOP. What's up with that?
 
I use the ZXCVBNM keyboard.
 
9:51 PM
I use a neural interface
 
@Pops Because 6 and 7 8 9
 
I just encountered Meta in my computerized Boggle. It didn't think it was a word. I had to add it to the dictionary.
 
Unfortunately my neural interface takes the form of typing on a qwerty keyboard
 
You got nothing on my jklöä
 
@3ventic Your what?
 
9:54 PM
jklöä keyboard layout
 
Why do people upvote answers to questions like this one:stackoverflow.com/questions/20892393/…?
 
@hichris123 Probably because they're correct answers.
 
@hichris123, seems like a fine very basic question.
I would have thought he wanted a one-line way of doing it, not a for-loop though.
 
Also I've noticed that people tend to upvote answers more on really downvoted questions. Out of spite I guess.
 
I don't think questions should be downvoted because they're basic.
 
9:58 PM
They're actually trying to downvote, but got stuck with jklöä keyboards. (Sorry, 3ventic, couldn't resist.)
 
what is bad about jklöä# keyboards?
 
Probably nothing. I've never even seen one. But 3ventic said "You got nothing on my jklöä" so I figured it was a valid target for a joke about it being confusing.
 
@JohannesKuhn the fact that it's ' after ä
 
The German keyboard layout is a QWERTZ keyboard layout commonly used in Germany and Austria. It is based on one defined in a former edition (October 1988) of the German standard DIN 2137-2. The current edition DIN 2137-1:2012-06 standardizes it as the first (basic) one of three layouts, calling it “T1” (“Tastaturbelegung 1” = “keyboard layout 1”). The German layout differs from the English (US and UK) layouts in four major ways: * The positions of the "Z" and "Y" keys are switched, this change being made for two major reasons: :* "Z" is a much more common letter than "Y" in German; the lat...
 
@Lance Wasn't talking about the fact that it's basic, it just shows no minimum understanding.
 
10:10 PM
' comes after Ä, but # comes after ä
 
A lot of basic questions will look like they show no minimum understanding to those of us who understand.
 
In fact there is regularly a question in that uses a $ where it shouldn't use one.
 
@LanceRoberts | Questions asking for code must demonstrate a minimal understanding of the problem being solved. Include attempted solutions, why they didn't work, and the expected results. See also: Stack Overflow question checklist
 
The rules when to use $ and when not are basic knowledge. Really basic. (For Tcl). But still.
 
10:13 PM
@JohannesKuhn ew german keyboard
 
Game about programming
Gah
I should have paid more attention in school
 
@ElfSlice How much of your day is spent listening to music?
 
@hichris123 Lots, why?
 
Curious.
 
If I'm not doing something that has audio, I usually have music on.
My parents even got me a really nice wireless bluetooth speaker for christmas
 
10:18 PM
Create a feed to show what you're listening to.
 
@hichris123 I used to broadcast on mixlr, but I haven't in a while.
I wouldn't know anything about creating a 'feed' or whatever.
Wow, mixlr has changed a lot
They have a desktop app now
 
@balpha Make it so. Historically unlock, add and re-lock the post, it deserves such prose.
... and you still look like a violently pointed Q-tip with that hat, I'm just sayin'
 
in The Bridge on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 1 min ago, by ErraticFox
@ElfSlice, I'm sick of you.
lol
No context
 
10:56 PM
@jdarnel27, here's an example of a appropriate close as dupe of a FAQ
 
 
1 hour later…
11:59 PM
I thought the example earlier was appropriate, @Lance.
=)
 

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