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10:04 PM

@DoorknobofSnow I think I saw a post about the effectiveness of silverware on force fields. Let me see if I can find it.

Doorknob of Snow

ok

Tim

smbc-comics.com/?id=277

RyanCarlson

@DoorknobofSnow Aha! Found it: ryancarlson1.wordpress.com/2013/12/19/…

Doorknob of Snow

@RyanCarlson clearly that was not posted today, on your blog. :P Okay, I am convinced.

RyanCarlson

@DoorknobofSnow Of course I didn't just post that on my blog!

I posted it a few minutes ago! That doesn't qualify as "just", does it?

I mean, Of course! I had nothing to do with that post!

Doorknob of Snow

10:17 PM

:P

RyanCarlson

@jadarnel27 You do agree that the effectiveness of silverware on force fields is indisputable, right?

ElfSlice

Today is such a crappy day

3ventic

Today was my last day of school this year

Doorknob of Snow

@3ventic tomorrow is for me

ElfSlice

7 hours ago, by ElfSlice

Today's Listening

This is so dope

hichris123

10:33 PM

@3ventic Tomorrow for me as well

RyanCarlson

@3ventic According to your profile, you earned the "Winter Is Coming" hat. The description for that hat is: "post a starred message in chat on December 20"

But it's currently the 19th

20th here

???

8

I just got awarded the "Winter Is Coming" hat - it's still the 19th? The hat is for the 20th! What is going on?

3ventic

00:34

And that ^

ElfSlice

10:34 PM

oooo

Monstercat's Best of 2013

I should stop posting this shit in here, nobody cares but me.

RyanCarlson

@DoorknobofSnow hmm... interesting. So you can earn the "Winter is Coming" hat as soon as it is the 20th anywhere in the world?

@RyanCarlson yes

Wierd

why?

I'd think it would be the "20th" in 81 minutes.

Doorknob of Snow

10:39 PM

it's already the 20th

RyanCarlson

But it's SE's midnight in 80 minutes

Doorknob of Snow

but for some people it's the 20th

RyanCarlson

Yes, but for some people it's the 19th

Doorknob of Snow

doesn't matter, posting on 20th and getting star and not hat seems like bug :P

Anna Lear

We're trying to be inclusive more so than pedantic (like we usually are with UTC) when it comes to fun events. :)

hichris123

10:43 PM

So... is there a room just so people can star each other's messages?

RyanCarlson

@AnnaLear It would make sense for it to be the 20th to start when the StackExchange™ SingleCollider NotSoSuperDropdown™ says 00:00 UTC Time.

Anna Lear

Chat operates on user's local time.

Except in the transcript because consistency is for suckers. ;)

But seriously, more people getting a hat? That sounds like a win to me.

RyanCarlson

XD

When does the "20th" end?

24 hours after it starts?

Because then technically more people wouldn't get the hat, only different people.

ElfSlice

What is so hard about getting messages starred?

Honestly, it's like you people never even chat. :P

3ventic

They're not on the bridge where anything that can be taken out of context is starred...

RyanCarlson

10:51 PM

@ElfSlice out of the 100+ messages here, 3 are starred.

Anna Lear

@RyanCarlson no way: chat.meta.stackoverflow.com/rooms/info/89/tavern-on-the-meta/…

RyanCarlson

I meant the 100+ messages currently visible on this page

Anna Lear

well, not everything needs to be starred. I dunno, say something funny?

RyanCarlson

something funny

Anna Lear

see? that wasn't so hard.

RyanCarlson

10:54 PM

Literally and figuratively

Now I feel like I didn't deserve that star, though.

But thank you anyways

Anna Lear

Eh, better than people outright asking others to do whatever thing a hat requires. :)

Bart

Could someone upv..... ah ... never mind

hichris123

Could someone please give me teh codes... I mean starz?

ElfSlice

If I don't get the Doge hat I'm going to delete my account.

Doorknob of Snow

@ElfSlice There is a doge hat?!?!

RyanCarlson

10:58 PM

@DoorknobofSnow possibly

Doorknob of Snow

such hat
very doge
much winterbash
wow

RyanCarlson

animuson

I demand a star. Not a chat star, a real star. I want to start my own solar system.

hichris123

What's the solar system going to be called?

ElfSlice

animuson

11:00 PM

I haven't thought that far ahead.

How about The Aniverse?

hichris123

Seems like a good name.

Anna Lear

@animuson Not unimuson?

Undo the Snowman

@animuson You would need to call it something non-universy. Because a solar system is not a universe.

animuson

My name has a history of taking the "ani" and appending things to it.

Doorknob of Snow

@animuson what's a muson?

3

3ventic

11:02 PM

Uni = sleep

animuson

Nothing, people just more often use the "ani" part of my name rather than the "muson"

RyanCarlson

@DoorknobofSnow Muson = "accusative singular of Diminutive of musician".

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/muson

en.wiktionary.org/wiki/muso

gtg

Doorknob of Snow

lol

hichris123

That's Esperanto. Not English.

Undo the Snowman

I shall henceforth refer to @animuson as @SleepyAccusativeSingularOfDiminutiveOfMusician

hichris123

11:05 PM

I like the Turkish version better.

muson (definite accusative musonu, plural musonlar)
 1.(weather) monsoon

Undo the Snowman

@SleepyMonsoon

@FlagHandlingMonsoon

animuson

He said musician, not magician. Jeez.

Pëkka

The Muson was a remote cousin of the Bison that inhabitated the Canadian steppe.

The peaceful giant went extinct in 1855, though. Sorry.

hichris123

@Pëkka Is there a possibility that @animuson is, infact a decendant of that animal?

Pëkka

It was christened Muson because it looked like a Bison, but always had a deep, thoughtful look to it, as if it were musing over something.

Undo the Snowman

11:08 PM

@hichris123 No, bison aren't known for their skill at handling flags really fast.

Pëkka

They were very gentle, good-hearted beings.

hichris123

@Undo How do you know?

Pëkka

@UndotheSnowman good point

hichris123

Maybe we should have a day where bison are mods on all of the SE sites.

Undo the Snowman

@hichris123 They went extinct, so they must have not been handling things very well.

Things include flags.

hichris123

11:09 PM

Probably.

I can just see someone coding in a bison hat for @animuson next year.

Undo the Snowman

Quick! Someone make a feature request!

hichris123

Ah, you should get the rep @Undo

Undo the Snowman

I don't want the rep.

hichris123

Your idea.

animuson

Am I only the person that puts cinnamon on their eggs?

Undo the Snowman

11:10 PM

@animuson No.

ElfSlice

I put ketchup on mine

I put ketchup on like everything though

animuson

Eww. o.o

Anna Lear

@ElfSlice even ice cream?

Undo the Snowman

Eww. o.o

ElfSlice

@AnnaLear Actually no.

animuson

11:13 PM

Of course, my brother used to put peanut butter on his pizza...

ElfSlice

Sometimes I eat it by itself

Undo the Snowman

@animuson That sounds great, actually.

3ventic

I don't eat pizza

Undo the Snowman

@ElfSlice EWW!

Anna Lear

Peanut butter on a burger is a surprisingly decent idea.

animuson

11:13 PM

Oh gosh, what kind of weird food trend have I just started?

hichris123

Vegetarian here.

Undo the Snowman

@animuson I don't know, but you should probably stop it.

ElfSlice

When I was in highschool I used to get a plain burger at the caf and then put a giant gooey chocolate chip cookie in it

It was actually really good

Undo the Snowman

Freeze the room for 10 seconds or something

Doorknob of Snow

must get last message before freeze

Undo the Snowman

11:14 PM

No! Me!

me!

me!

me!!

whacks doorknob with hammer

hichris123

He's not going to freeze it.

3ventic

11:15 PM

It's freezing enough outside, no need to freeze the rooms too

2

hichris123

So don't worry.

Doorknob of Snow

resists blow as made of metal

Undo the Snowman

acquires sack of thermite

Doorknob of Snow

runs

animuson

I'm pretty sure a hammer would put a nice dent into metal.

Doorknob of Snow

11:15 PM

realizes has no legs

Undo the Snowman

doorknobs run?

Doorknob of Snow

locks self hoping it will help

animuson

@UndotheSnowman Why not? Fridges do.

Doorknob of Snow

agrees with @animuson and runs again

Undo the Snowman

beats on doorknob with @barts smiting stick

smite

Doorknob of Snow

11:16 PM

is already gone

stops talking in italics

animuson

>:D

Undo the Snowman

casts a curse on doorknobs of the world to take away their ability to type the letter E

3ventic

yells liar

Doorknob of Snow

@animuson??? Was that you?! :P

animuson

I thought that was funnier.

Doorknob of Snow

11:17 PM

hy! why'd you do that? that's a good lttr...

3ventic

Undo the Snowman

hehehe

Doorknob of Snow

tris to laugh: hhhhhh

animuson

History is clearly a lie!

3ventic

History is written by the victors.

Anna Lear

11:19 PM

@animuson Wait, history is cake?

animuson

And cake is history.

Anna Lear

That's deep.

RyanCarlson

Just did some more research: ani is "a glossy black long-tailed bird of the cuckoo family, with a large deep bill, found in Central and South America." muson is, in esperanto, "accusative singular of mouse." Therefore animuson is an animal that is half "a glossy black long-tailed bird of the cuckoo family, with a large deep bill, found in Central and South America" and half mouse!

I have discovered your secret, @animuson

Undo the Snowman

@RyanCarlson Now dissect casperOne's name.

animuson

pulls the connection to your computer

Undo the Snowman

11:29 PM

Bad @animuson

You drove him away!

animuson

Mwuahahahaha!

Undo the Snowman

@animuson That 'kick' button has consequences, you know :P

RyanCarlson

puts connection to my computer back

animuson

There's a kick button?

RyanCarlson

He didn't kick me

Undo the Snowman

11:30 PM

@animuson 'kick user from this room'

or something like that.

Manish has a script that continually pushes the button, effectively banning the user from the room.

animuson

I don't ever moderate in chat, so meh.

ElfSlice

Kicking someone is the non verbal equivalent of 'fuck off'.

RyanCarlson

@UndotheSnowman "The first city of east central Wyoming on the North Platte river"

ElfSlice

Really rude.

Undo the Snowman

@RyanCarlson That's awesome.

How about mmyers?

RyanCarlson

11:33 PM

google.com/#q=define+casper, google.com/#q=define+one is how I dissected casperOne's name

mmyers... hmmm...

mmyers is unique

Undo the Snowman

Ok.

Shog9?

If you can decipher Shog9, you win one internet.

* void where prohibited, maybe be a lie in some jurisdiction.

Doorknob of Snow

The nine tails of a pig-like animal.

(if S counts as a tail glyph)

RyanCarlson

Easy: "The ninth jolt/shake" google.com/#q=define+shog

Undo the Snowman

hehehe

jmac

@AnnaLear Well had I been a bit more intelligent, I would have had you take a mouthful of mouse instead. But sometimes the most obvious things slip by... And anyway, now I have proof that you eat monitors you think may be mice, so, there's that.

Undo the Snowman

11:43 PM

Ohhh, SE has such a nice office ;(

Me want go there.

Can I go there?

Please?

I would be good!

Anna Lear

It's ... an office.

I mean, it's a very nice one, but still. Mostly we just work here. :)

Undo the Snowman

@AnnaLear Yeah...

Anna Lear

@jmac I mean, who doesn't?

Undo the Snowman

but it's really nice.

And you have hexagonal cubes!

(do the CMs get hexagonal cubes?)

Anna Lear

@jmac I'm not sure if taking a selfie-while-biting-a-monitor is any easier than taking a selfie-while-biting-a-mouse.

@UndotheSnowman yep

Undo the Snowman

11:46 PM

I'm currently walking around the SE office looking for Anna's office

Google maps is cool!

Anna Lear

I'm actually in my office for that shot. It's downstairs.

Undo the Snowman

goes downstairs

wait, I am downstairs!

Pëkka

Do flags deemed invalid by your fellow 10k+ users have negative consequences for you eventually?

Anna Lear

@Pëkka no

Pëkka

I sure hope so. So many bullshit flags in the queue all the time.

Undo the Snowman

11:48 PM

@Pëkka Not really.

Pëkka

That sucks

Undo the Snowman

Well, you don't get a helpful flag, but it isn't declined either.

Pëkka

If I were a mod, I would be angry at all those pedantic jerks flagging all sorts of stuff "not an answer" just because it's an answer they don't like

Anna Lear

there's a decline reason for that :)

Pëkka

But when 10k+ers shoot the flag down, then the mod will never see it, correct?

Anna Lear

11:49 PM

@UndotheSnowman i.stack.imgur.com/kfxtx.jpg - the "hexapod" Ana Hevesi and I share. My desk is the messy one.

@Pëkka The mod will see it... but regardless of how they dismiss the flag, it'll be marked as "disputed".

Pëkka

@AnnaLear ah cool

Undo the Snowman

@AnnaLear That's... not messy.

Pëkka

Then everything's fine

I thought the flag just goes away and never makes it to a mod if disputed by enough people.

Anna Lear

@UndotheSnowman I'll rephrase. The messier one.

@Pëkka Not that I know of.

Undo the Snowman

That's better

jmac

11:51 PM

@AnnaLear I believe that's what the scientific method was designed for.

RyanCarlson

Sorry for the randomness, but I just found this: xkcd.com/217

So hilarious

jmac

I believe there is a summary in Science Made Stupid. There is the Bacon Francis method, and the Francis Bacon method.

Francis Bacon Method:
1) Devise Hypothesis
2) Conduct Experiment
3) Revise Hypothesis to Match Data
4) Publish

Bacon Francis Method:
1) Devise Hypothesis
2) Conduct Experiment
3) Revise Data to Match Hypothesis
4) Publish

5

Undo the Snowman

Ha!

jmac

(the entire book is pretty funny, and there is a PDF available, but it does contain cartoon nudity so at-work browsing is strongly discouraged)

RyanCarlson

Revise Data to Match Hypothesis happens too often in real life.

jmac

11:55 PM

@RyanCarlson It's a Western Thing. The Japanese are a bigger fan of the Francis Bacon method.

RyanCarlson

Yes

jmac

"I think we should foo the bar. Underlings, go gather data on fooing the bar."
"Boss, after conducting painstaking work, it looks as if the bar is the one doing the fooing."
"Exactly like I said, we should be focusing on the bar doing the fooing. Good work."

RyanCarlson

@jmac "It's Popular Demand's fault!"

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