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jadarnel27

1:41 AM

I remember having a lot of trouble learning recursion in college. Professionally, I have only used it once I think. It feels like a lot of wasted effort.

I should go punch that professor guy.

animuson

I use recursion quite often...

Sometimes without even thinking about it. Then my friend will see the code and go "how the hell does this work??"

mootinator

I mainly use recursion in SQL.

jadarnel27

I remember using at my last job because we had some kind of tree data structure to populate, and it made sense to use recursion.

@animuson For what (just curious)?

@mootinator Yeah, I can definitely see that being more common.

Laszlo Papp

2:07 AM

@animuson: simply that I would not like to have two tags.

mootinator

Parenthood means being relieved when your daughter randomly jumps on your foot.

jadarnel27

Relieved?

mootinator

Yeah, I thought I was getting gout or something.

jadarnel27

Haha, I actually laughed out loud at that.

mootinator

3:11 AM

I have a "boil water advisory" beard.

Mat

3:36 AM

That's a fearful beard. Trim it.

jadarnel27

I think I just heard gunfire in my neighborhood.

What am I supposed to do about that? I guess there's no way to know for sure if that's what it was.

animuson

5:37 AM

@LaszloPapp What do you mean two tags? Is qt-quick synonymous to something else?

@jadarnel27 Generally if you have no information on where it might have come from or confirmation that it was actually gunfire, it would be classified as low priority because all an officer can do is drive around the area and see if they spot anything. Likely an officer would not even be sent out there and the call would just be logged in case something comes up later.

Manishearth

6:03 AM

@Bart /cc @LaszloPapp We can merge tags, and that can be used for renaming.

animuson

Welcome to the party!

Manishearth

looks around for the pina coladas

Laszlo Papp

@Manishearth: ok, so what should I ask on meta then? Whether we can merge them?

or we need a step before that?

Manishearth

Just ask for a renaming on meta

Note that if you want the mods to use the rename tool it has to be pretty clear that all questions with the old tag can be tagged with the new one

Laszlo Papp

@Manishearth: ok, and in that case the threads will not be bumped?

Manishearth

6:14 AM

Yep. But I'm not sure how they do it on SO

For smaller retags they go through manually I think

Just ask, the SO users will tell you

Laszlo Papp

6:27 AM

@Manishearth: fair enough, thank you.

Laszlo Papp

7:32 AM

what happens when close votes happen with different reasons? Will the question still be put on hold, or it has to get 5 close votes with the same reason?

Mat

5 close votes => put on hold, regardless of chosen reasons. What gets displayed as a close reason depends on the mix though.

Laszlo Papp

the reason with the highest score?

Laszlo Papp

7:59 AM

@Mat ^

Sumurai8

@LaszloPapp I have seen questions where 2 close reasons were displayed (e.g. Offtopic as main close reason with a description where 2 users are for 'minimal understanding' and 3 users are for 'questions concerning problems')

Laszlo Papp

@Sumurai8: strange, so how does the algorithm work then, it picks up the latest?

Mat

meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/188688/… @LaszloPapp

Laszlo Papp

@Mat: I am still not sure I understand which reason is picked up for displaying.

Sumurai8

All reasons that have at least 2 users voting for it is how I read it

Laszlo Papp

8:14 AM

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Q: Don't choose the best close reason, allow multiple close reasons

Currently, if multiple off-topic reasons are chosen, all are displayed as a bulleted list. I don't see why the same shouldn't be done for the other close reasons. Sometimes posts have multiple issues, being able to close something as "too broad AND vague" (or "too broad AND opinion based") sound...

this somewhat clarifies further down.

but that thread does not mention two though

Mat

8:56 AM

In short: mod close, display mod reason. One top-level close reason has majority (no tie), display that. Tie in top-level close: display last reason selected. Special cases if top-level close is off-topic: >=4 migrate votes to same site: migrate, otherwise display all close reasons with >= 2 votes, if none displayed so far generic off-topic.

Laszlo Papp

9:43 AM

@Mat, ok, thanks

is it possible to get a list of my close votes?

Sumurai8

stackoverflow.com/review/close/history <-- that?

Laszlo Papp

no, my casting.

Mat

@LaszloPapp: in your profile, where all your other votes are listed

Laszlo Papp

@Mat, ah, ok.

@Mat: can I choose group sorting, or so to easily localize all of them?

Mat

10:11 AM

@LaszloPapp: the only options you have are those on the screen. Note that you'll see "(deleted)" below "closure" if the post gets closed or your vote expires.

Laszlo Papp

@Mat: yeah.

perhaps Pekka

12:43 PM

For some reason, the page for the Google Driving Directions widgets contains 30 recommendations for spell casters.

google.com/ig/directory?type=gadgets&url=www.google.com/ig/…

Sumurai8

1:24 PM

It does?

Apparently not translated into my language :(

Laszlo Papp

2:19 PM

is there a more strict ban after a 7-day occasion for further audit failures?

Mat

2:30 PM

What does the review audit FAQ say about that?

Laszlo Papp

not sure which one you are referring to, but this one says nothing about it: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/157121/…

Mat

It does.

Laszlo Papp

I do not see any relevance to that.

Mat

Do you see where it talks about bans at all, and how it describes the duration of such bans? I'm not sure what additional info you would want.

Laszlo Papp

No, I simply do not see any of the information I need.

and actually, "ctrl-f: ban" does not even find anything.

Laszlo Papp

3:01 PM

@Mat: feel free to point me out with the right answer based on that thread.

Bart

"Repeated failures, especially in short succession can lead to your review privileges being suspended for a week or longer, depending on the frequency of the failures"

Laszlo Papp

That is off-topic to my question in my book. My question was:

"How does the algorithm work? Is it possible to get more strict penalty after one or two, etc, bans to get, say, a month long ban or more?"

That sentence above is way too vague unfortunately, and does not provide any accurate reply to that concern.

Bart

I think you're unlikely to get the full details of that algorithm.

Laszlo Papp

it is very far from full details.

it is the most top level details IMHO the ignorance of which leads to people not caring about one week ban if they do not more "punishment".

Note, I do not ask in any way, how the algorithm is coded.

nor how it is designed.

I only ask the feature (use case)

Bart

Then I'd say the quote answers it. Yes, you can be banned for longer durations depending on the frequency of your audit failures. But if that is not clear enough, perhaps Shog could provide more details if inclined to do so.

Laszlo Papp

3:08 PM

longer can mean 7 days 1 hours, so can it mean 100 years.

that is totally unclear.

to be honest, it is even more unclear than the current situation actually is.

it does not mention the first ban is always 7 days which I have been told to be the case.

that sentence interprets as the first ban can even be longer.

animuson

3:29 PM

@Shog9 Any idea how this happened:? meta.stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/18497

^ I should note - that edit didn't have any of the view-switching buttons, which is what really threw me off. It was as if literally nothing had changed.

Mat

meta.stackoverflow.com/review/suggested-edits/18499 <= repro!

Edit tags, replace [notifications] with [notification] (synonym)

Bart

4:22 PM

Anyone have any problems logging in to Careers at the moment?

animuson

@Bart Let me login just fine with my Google account.

Bart

:( Okay. Google here as well, but no dice

SO and MSO are no problem

Let's clear everything and try again

Hmm, that seems to have done the trick. Strangely, Chrome is giving me a lot of trouble with anything Google related lately. Even search stops working every now and then.

Laszlo Papp

6:36 PM

Is there a way to set favorite accounts so that I can see them at the top of my profile?

for instance I can only see this one after clicking on "view more": Musical Practice & Performance, but I would like to see at the top of the list on my profile page because I more regularly visit it than some others.

Bart

Nope, they are ordered by reputation

Laszlo Papp

has anyone requested a favorite site feature yet?

Bart

4

Q: Sorting user's Stack Exchange accounts

On the users/{user_id}/{username}?tab=accounts page of a Stack Exchange site, all the linked accounts are displayed. It appears that they are sorted by the user's reputation on the particular account. There should be an option to sort the view of a user's Stack Exchange accounts. It is frust...

feature-request user-accounts linked-accounts sorting

Laszlo Papp

/me has just left a comment in there.

thanks.

Mat

6:53 PM

Don't forget to upvote feature requests you care for, @LaszloPapp

Laszlo Papp

@Mat: do not forget the daily vote limit. ;-)

@Mat: I planned to upvote within a few hours when I get further vote quota.

Bart

Heh, I don't think I ever hit the vote limit on Meta

Laszlo Papp

well, I had to read a lot of thread today before considering proposing new ones.

and I was too lenient to give upvotes. :)

Laszlo Papp

7:22 PM

lots of threads*

Laszlo Papp

8:13 PM

hmm, this is interesting. I kept voting today on stackoverflow, but got 2-3 votes again the last 1-2 hours when I tried to vote. How come? What changed this?

Can this be because low-quality questions were deleted that I downvoted and also voted for closing?

heh, moreover, I was just withdrawing a vote to see if it makes a difference, but I cannot put it back on the same question.

I had an upvote on a question, I withdrew for a bit, and when I tried to put it back, I got the "limit reached" text. What is the explanation for this?

ThiefMaster

if you vote on questions you get up to 10 additional votes for that day

but not if you already exhausted all your 30(?) votes on answers first

Laszlo Papp

I was mostly voting on questions... bad ones as I tried to exercise my fresh closure privilege. :)

ThiefMaster

35

Q: Separate vote pools for questions and answers

In the recent podcast Jeff and Joel talked about the idea of having separate vote pools for questions and answers. So, for example you would have 10 question votes a day and 30 answer votes. A quick analysis of 10 days of recent data at Stack Overflow shows that we are seeing that about 23% of t...

feature-request status-completed voting

Laszlo Papp

but it would be still strange to me that I can withdraw a vote, but I cannot put it right back.

(which is what happened to me literally)

is that a known issue or should I ask on meta?

ThiefMaster

That might be the case because you already used some of those extra votes today. So removing the vote kept you above the daily vote limit - and in that case extra votes for questions are not taken into account at all

Laszlo Papp

8:24 PM

that sounds strange if you ask me, i.e. bug, not feature.

but perhaps there is a rationale for it?

I have 48 votes now, but I presume some of them are the close votes.

has there been a discussion for this on meta yet?

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