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12:00 AM
@JourneymanGeek oh I understood. How sad, my condolences, he was beautiful. What was his name?
12:37 AM
@Marco The little dog’s name was Ash.
@ElementsInSpace nice, thanks!
12:53 AM
@SmokeDetector ok, and what's the problem?
@Marco Smokey is suspicious if a post starts or ends with a hyperlink.
@ElementsInSpace yeah
@ElementsInSpace why write 'f'?
false alarm?
Yeah, that’s me telling Smokey that that’s a false positive.
ok
 
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6:11 AM
@Marco there's rooms for non-English sites, but not here
7:06 AM
@Marco it's alias for "fpu-" which means "mark this as false positive, remove user from blacklist, and make it silent i.e. no feedback back for this command".
so e.g. just fpu will cause the bot to reply something like "marked this as false positive"
the "k" alias is for "tpu-" which is like "f" but the opposite: mark the report as true positive, i.e. spam or offensive, and adding the user who posted it to the blacklist of the bot, meaning any future post will be reported, or more accurate any post being scanned.
(edits also trigger a new scan.)
Now let's see what happened in Happy Hour...
@Marco ahh oops! Bot it was, and broken is was as well, sorry for that. That message was supposed to be sent at 3am my time which was 9pm your time, when you said you're going afk. The bot should have served couple of things when Happy Hour began, this is the soda:
And the snack:
So I'll try to fix it for the next Happy Hour, if you'll still be around to enjoy it. ;) @Mar
Oh hey, @M.A.R you have a competition now!! :D
M.A.R vs. Mar
@JourneymanGeek I'll say cross network, for sure.
7:50 AM
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8:13 AM
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda as usual. Misery and mutual self recriminations :D
 
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12:30 PM
hm
I mean I guess that post could be seen as R/A
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hmm
A/R (angry rant)
 
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2:44 PM
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda gifer.com/en/2S5
@JourneymanGeek "recriminations"? Are you all right Journey
@M.A.R. am I ever? >_>
@JourneymanGeek I don't care if you're ever, I care if you're all right
Oh, I'm alright. Just that my humour is a little dark :D
55%? 72%? 77%? 89%?
2:48 PM
99% some days
Just don't be depressed bro, it's not so hard
I wasted 12 hours in my day in various classes and learned nothing
Am I any upset about it?
. . . Well, maybe a bit.
I actually wanna punch something.
But I'm too sleepy to do it.
If I'm sleepy I can't be upset.
Opens an SE site's homepage
Oh there's a whimsical post about Saddam Hussein killing thousands of people. My day is already improving.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok, thanks for the explanations!
Here's another SE
A charming question titled "Poop in a loop"
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok, no problem, I was just kidding... thanks for the sodas and snacks!
2:53 PM
How 'bout some good ol' meta
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok, combined!
"Is it just me, or is StackOverflow getting toxic?"
The betterification of my day continues
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda Yes!
@JourneymanGeek that does look like poop but not in a loop
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda the snacks and the soda are really nice!!
2:59 PM
@Marco don't encourage him
@M.A.R. ?
@Sha gets even more hyperactive when encouraged
Compliment with extreme caution
haha
ok
@M.A.R. who lol
@Marco lol don't believe him!
3:25 PM
@Petəíŕd The Spring Wizard @Sha
@Petəíŕd The Spring Wizard lol ok
3:38 PM
@Petəíŕd The Spring Wizard this I know, but is there any room where you can write in Thai?
4:03 PM
@Marco I'm by no means an expert, but as far as I know you can just create your own room :)
I wrote it wrong, I'm sorry. I meant SE website.
@Marco ah, sorry, I don't know then
no problem
4:47 PM
ah so many pings!
basks in the glory of pings from @Marco ;-)
oh and @M.A.R :D
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda of course!
@M.A.R. giving something to punch
@Marco well, I love pings, but keep in mind it's rare and I'm odd... most people don't like pings. (But I think you already know, and I'm glad for that. :))
Now let's see if there's anything need a reply...
10 minutes!
@Marco you're welcome. :D
@M.A.R. sounds familiar in an odd way. :P
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda I get it... I know most people don't like it, but I actually only use it when I see that it's really important, to specify what I'm responding to.
@Marco my pleasure, and hopefully next time it will be served fresh, on time! :D
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda haha
4:51 PM
@Marco yeah that's a direct reply, I mean even "normal" ping, e.g. when I say @M.A.R. love pings. ;)
So e.g. I won't use ping for Tink as she... well, doesn't love them as much.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok haha
nor JNat, I think.
But if you stick around here, you'll get to know us all quite well. @Marco
of course!
@Marco correct. Also note using correct pronouns, so Tink is "she/her", JNat and @Mith are "they/them", etc. When not sure try to look around or ask before, you can e.g. ask me in the Den.
(sometimes it's in the profile)
@M.A.R. too late!! :-D
becoming Super Shadow
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok
4:56 PM
@Marco nope, we could suggest such language sites in Area 51 once, but at some point SE stopped accepting new suggestions for language sites.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda haha, I have no intention of suggesting a website specialized in the Thai language...
See here:
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Q: Are there any banned subjects on Area 51?

Robert ColumbiaI know of the following rules for creating a proposal on Area 51: The scope must be reasonably well-defined, not too unclear (e.g. "cool stuff"), too opinion-based (e.g. "car reviews"), too broad (e.g. "life on Earth"), or too narrow (e.g. "The 1995 academic misconduct scandal at East Oak Mews H...

anyway, do you really like Zelda games?
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ohh
> Communities in foreign languages: Stack Exchange has announced that due to resource constraints, they will not be accepting any new proposals for sites in languages other than English. (This does not cover sites about foreign languages whose language medium is English.)
There were several attempts for Hebrew site, which failed.
interesting
4:58 PM
I took part in one.
@Marco ah, I played couple, yeah. Remember only one though, the Ocarina of Time. You played as well?
played couple? What do you mean?
Also, take a look at my avatar, what do you spot as being strange in it? @Marco (see the full version. ;))
Well, Link is a little bit different...
@Marco couple of games, meaning around two. (Not sure, as I don't remember all games I played, I sometimes started playing a game and didn't finish.)
@Marco yup. AI
I asked AI to add sunglasses. :D
So it added, but also made some changes to the image itself.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ahhh, I understand it now
Yes, I've played Ocarina of Time, of course, although I haven't finished it, it's one of my goals...
5:02 PM
Jan 2 at 16:44, by Shadow Wizard Love Zelda
This is the original ^
great!
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda :D
I imagine you're a big fan of Zelda, despite not having finished the most legendary, Ocarina.
@Marco heh, nice! So go ahead and finish it, it's a good game. :)
@Marco oh, I did finish this one, that's why I remember it.
oh, I ended up getting confused when reading, sorry.
which ones did you clear?
5:05 PM
The game I remember most details from is Final Fantasy 8 though, which was my first "real" game.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda interesting, even though I don't really like RPGs, I need to finish at least one FF to see if I start to like the genre more and learn to like FF more too.
Played it when it was still pretty new, around 2000 or so.
@Marco well, I can recommend 8 then. I finished it twice, and later played some more, but that one was the best.
Thanks for the recommendation, do you like the 8 more than the much talked about 7 (considered legendary)?
@Marco with Zelda? Think the Ocarina of Time was the only one I finished, don't remember out of the top of my head which others I played, can look in the list of games and I'll probably remember.
yes, the Zelda ones. Ok!
5:09 PM
@Marco I played the original 7 and finished it, and started playing the Remake and got stuck in the middle, forgot why. Liked the original more, though 8 still beats it. However, might be just "first love" phenomenon. ;-) (i.e. I prefer 8 only because it was my first, and it doesn't mean it's really better.)
ohh, I got it
But the best game overall, that I ever played, is Okami.
I mean best as in combo of story, characters, and battle mechanism.
interesting, I've already played the beginning of it, but I didn't really understand its feel, I still want to try to understand it and play it.
@Marco which? Okami?
yes
5:12 PM
Nice, so yeah play it, and I can try to explain if you want to understand something better.
What you mean "didn't understand the feel"? @Marco
Mith arrived.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok, nice!
You play the wolf which is a goddess, and save the world from darkness. @Marco
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda about the gameplay, what to do, etc.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda hmmm, nice!!
@Marco yeah, that's unique, and what made it so great for me. You draw the moves.
You draw a bomb and kaboom! There's a bomb. :D
nice, cool, I'll play it, I think there's even a Wii version (I have one)!
5:15 PM
@Marco probably, I played on PS.
nice
What is your favorite game of all time?
BTW, even asked in SE about Okami. ;)
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Q: Undiggable area even though I have proper skill

Shadow Wizard Love ZeldaOK, one vid is worth 1000 words: This is in Kamui. Cherry Bomb did not have any effect either. I do know it's the entrance to the third and final devil gate. I do have the Digging Champ dojo technique. I was able to dig the other two devil gates just fine. I ...

@Marco Okami and FF8 kind of together, but FF8 more due to being first so.. Okami.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda nice!
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ohh, great!!
However, I think I spent more hours on Bubble Bobble when I was in the ages 10 to 20. :P
ohh, I think I know that game
5:21 PM
Rings a bell? @Marco ^
That's not a "real" game, but rather arcade, but heck.. it was so much fun. :D
This game is famous, I know the name, but I probably haven't played it
I thought his favorite game of all time was some Zelda, to put a profile picture of Link is something very strong.
Well can still find version of it, and even the original using DOS-Box or the like.
of course
@Marco ah, not really. It was quite random actually.
I switch name and avatar every couple of months.
surprising
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ohh
5:24 PM
So it's time again, still don't know what to choose, but it will arrive. ;)
But @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog is always Sonic.
Maybe Shadow The Bubble Wizard, with avatar from Bubble Bobble... hmm...
ohh
@Marco Well, I used to...but I've lost track of that recently
Maybe I might again?
I think Okami Wolf is a good idea
5:25 PM
@Marco now he is, but he also switched many names in the past.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog ohh
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog maybe
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog sure thing, can be fun. ;)
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda extremely surprising
I know it got the people in Charcoal confused for a time
e.g. see here:
Jan 11, 2021 at 5:59, by Sonic the Curiouser Hedgehog
@JourneymanGeek Can you please unfreeze the syntax highlighting room?
@Marco ^
Sonic was always Sonic as I'm always Shadow, but changed the rest of the name.
5:26 PM
well, there is Shadow from Sonic, that would be a good idea, then there would be Link's Shadow and Sonic's Shadow.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda I understand now!
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog well you can change only here on MSE. :)
@Marco The whole thing, including my name here, started from an off-hand comment I made that Shadow's username reminded me of Shadow the Hedgehog, and him changing his name in response.
Nov 18, 2022 at 7:02, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog
@starball It's a bit of a story. I rejoined this site in Winter Bash 2017, noticed Shadow's name in the chat, and made an off-hand comment that his name reminded me of Shadow the Hedgehog from the Sonic series of games. He then changed his name to "Shadow the Hedgehog Wizard". As a nod to that, I changed my name to my current one, with the "Anonymous" referring to my previous life as the anonymous editor. The rest is history.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog yup. :D
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog ohhhh, nice!
If you have an idea, I might follow as well and change according to it. @Marco
5:28 PM
Also, context link for my previous life: meta.stackexchange.com/q/302471/377214
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda haha ok
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog yeah, I already read something about that.
Are you two part of the group that hates Stack Exchange?
I have nothing against them.
@Marco I don't hate Stack Exchange the site, I hate the way management is going, and the way they treat the users.
That's what I meant.
hmm
Name 3 things that bother you most.
But as you see, I prefer having fun while I can, so all good... for now. :)
@Marco AI, AI, AI.
(in SE)
Detail it
5:32 PM
And with that, gtg... will share details sometime later, hopefully.
gtg?
@Marco Got to Go
Ah, ok
I got it now
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok, no problem, thanks and bye!
5:48 PM
@Marco No
I've always loved the system. I just haven't necessarily agreed, at all times, with the people running the system.
5:59 PM
@Marco SE management is putting AI as their first priority. The shifted all resources towards it. The result is lack of resources for everything else. To make it worse, they ignore the community who keeps trying to tell them it's a mistake.
AI is good as concept, and in its current state, good as a toy, e.g. to generate funny images and even music. However, people think it can do more, and there lies the real issue with it worldwide, not related to SE.
But on that I can expand at some later point, if you want.
@Marco
Or just link to some good articles which echo my thoughts.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda What do you mean about "putting AI as their first priority"?
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog ok, I meant the people running the system, sure.
@Sha is unsolicitedly promoting Final Fantasy again
flags
@SquareEnix
@Marco the main issue people have with SE is empty promises, after quite a few dramatics, of listening to them on ways the community can improve. Instead, SE has focused on shoehorning AI into a product that exists in the first place because automated tools were insufficient. People felt the need for online fora and Q&A sites because there was nothing computerized that could replace them.
It's not a matter of 'being part of a group that hates SE'. You either cared enough about the way the sites were run that you got involved in the drama, or you didn't care.
6:21 PM
@M.A.R. I didn't understand the explanation about AI and SE
To be fair, neither did I, and I wrote the message
@M.A.R. I don't agree, it's something simple, there are those who agree with SE and there are those who disagree.
Cut me some slack. My brain is running on overtime,.
@M.A.R. ok, no problem
@M.A.R. haha, ok, no problem
@Marco agree as in, they think trying to integrate AI into the sites has been a success?
I'd like to see how they're assessing that. By what metric has AI improved something on SO since it's been half-assed-ly implemented?
Has the rate of well-received questions, purportedly improved before being posted thanks to AI, increased?
I don't have the numbers but I doubt it
6:28 PM
@M.A.R. I'm uninformed, in what sense did SE put AI into the system?
@Marco I think it was being used to suggest duplicates, which probably wasn't superior to the algorithm already in place, and it was being used to generate (or edit?) posts, and I don't think that has stopped
hmmm
I understand it now
anyway, I barely know about these discussions, so I don't have much to say.
 
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7:45 PM
@Marco what @M.A.R. said. I also don't have specifics of what exactly Stack Exchange put into Stack Overflow which was driven by AI, and how it affected the quality, but I don't care as that's not the point. They work against the community, and that's what annoying me.
And I just heard unconfirmed news Iran shot several hundreds UAVs on Israel... @M.A.R. can you please send them all the self destruct signal? Thanks! :D
And before you ask, @Marco that's a UAV:
An unmanned aerial vehicle (UAV), commonly known as a drone, is an aircraft without any human pilot, crew, or passengers on board. UAVs were originally developed through the twentieth century for military missions too "dull, dirty or dangerous" for humans, and by the twenty-first, they had become essential assets to most militaries. As control technologies improved and costs fell, their use expanded to many non-military applications. These include aerial photography, area coverage, precision agriculture, forest fire monitoring, river monitoring, environmental monitoring, policing and surveillance...
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok, I barely know about these discussions, so I don't have much to say
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda :(
@Marco all good. If/when you read, feel free to talk about it, ask, etc.
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda haha, but I know what is
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ok, thanks!
@Marco nice! I didn't know until now the English acronym actually.
(Well, knew, but forgot. lol)
lol
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda I really hope that Israel is not REALLY attacked by Iran. This will not lead to good things, it will escalate this war extremely.
7:59 PM
ah looks like they're aiming on military bases. So shouldn't arrive to where I live, but if it's only the beginning.... well, I'm in a problem. Anyway, life goes on! :)
As the US warned Iran: "DON'T DO THIS."
@Marco Biden cut his holiday, and Israel imposed emergency rule aborting all non critical activities so looks like we're going into something big. :/
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda is this emergency rule rare?
@Marco well technically it's ongoing and we're still officially in war, so it's just part of that - but last time it was so extreme was soon after the October 7th attack, and lasted for couple of weeks.
No schools at all, people can't gather outside, etc.
:(
Take care!!!!
8:03 PM
Thanks.
I'm in a rather good place, but many others aren't, so I worry more about them, and for Israel in general. Anyway... will keep being around as long as I have power on and internet connection. :)
And... I also worry for the citizens of Iran, who are not to be blamed for their leadership actions. :/
!!/coffee world
:)
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda I understand
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda yes
 
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10:13 PM
@ShadowWizardLoveZelda ugh, looks like iran confirmed it
10:28 PM
@JourneymanGeek yes, sure
10:40 PM
Yeah ETA 20 minutes
 
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11:45 PM
pokes shadow
You good?

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