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@M.A.R. erf I mean, there's practical alternative medicines, but homeopathic isn't it
My grandad had a broken kneecap. Western medicine took one look at it, and went nope. He went to a Unani (basically indian/muslim school of alternative medicine, as opposed to ayurveda) doctor... who was like
"I'm going to rub this stuff on your knee, and wrap it up with this other stuff. You MUST take a bus here and back, standing up"
the stuff basically melted his kneecap, set it together, and standing up let it heal right.
@JourneymanGeek It’s not Western medicine, it’s scientific medicine. You got science in Asia, too.
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact in a sense asian/alternative medicine sometimes has science too
Then it’s not alternative medicine.
Well yes and no. A lot of it is emperical, and western medicine probably has more standardisation.
Homeopathy is Western, just so you know.
1:37 AM
But its not medicine
its nonsense
It’s «alternative».
its not practical :D
It is for the salesman.
I don't think western medicine as practiced is compatible with "I'm going to smear some snake bile on your knees"
Well, why not?
I went a year or two through the public health system. In the end, they gave me up and sent me off to psychologists saying it’s all an illusion, and some guy doing acupuncture, drawing lines on the skin, and other idiocy. All paid by the public. Well, mostly.
Drew a cross with his finger on my neck. «Oh, dear, that came out red. It means you’re allergic to milk».
Well, intolerant, but what difference would it make.
1:42 AM
I could have told you you were intolerant..
oh of milk
Waaaait
I thought north europeans didn't get lactose intolerant?
So, yes, I’ve had a fair share of needles through my feet, legs and ears. Probably some in my hands and arms, too. What a pointless waste of time.
@JourneymanGeek We aren’t racist towards the molecules.
 
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@JourneymanGeek documenting stuff in scientific articles and sharing it with the world has a history spanning only 300 years. These medicines that belong to different nations have thousands-year-old histories. Of course there is useful stuff there for anyone who's willing to go digging, but the right attitude about it is sharing your finding in a convincing, reproducible manner to the rest of the world, not trying to bunch the useful stuff up with a bunch of nonsense
These "Unanis", I bet for every useful remedy, and they no doubt have useful remedies, they give loads of useless or harmful advice, as demonstrable by a proper scientific study.
That's just how my experience has been so far with Iranian, Chinese, and Ayurvedic medicine.
@M.A.R. Well yeah
its partially the "chasing the cat with a stick before prayers" problem - the point I was going for though is - unlike homeopathy, some of this stuff may work
If you have a plant growing in some part of the world that demonstrates antimalarial properties, you should purify said compound and document it. If you don't purify it, you won't know that there isn't another compound in the said plant that's hepatotoxic or carcinogenic, and plants have loads of those.
I'm pretty sure done wrongly the same stuff that they did to my grandad woud turn your leg into a lump of misshappen bone :D
Of course, within the same school of practice, you will find an antimalarial arrhythmogenic plant used for something totally irrelevant, like diabetes. Looking at you, China.
@JourneymanGeek well thankfully, as we are deforesting the entire world, soon the medicinal plants will all go extinct and we can go back to overdosing on painkillers
 
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What the hell is that newest question
Maybe spam seed
 
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9:46 AM
@M.A.R. which?
9:58 AM
@ShadowWizard Witch
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Broom
@ShadowWizard Wipe
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact Kenny
oh he's alive!!!!
lol didn't check my Den until now. @rene thanks!
@ShadowWizard Kenny can wipe himself.
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact sadly no, it's a downside of those who die often.
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I ain't here to clean up his blood piles.
10:36 AM
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact blood? Kenny has no blood, he's a bot.
Duh.
@AndreasmovedtoCodidact which can't form piles, only puddles.
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