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12:07 AM
I have post several bug reports of my own (admittedly some better than others). So far only one as gotten a [status-complete], and to be perfectly honest that particular bug was not fixed at all — the momentary "fix" became obsolete latter that week.
 
Thanks @ElementsinSpace first bug i reported :P
 
 
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1:22 AM
@ElementsinSpace I think the inquestion bug is huge. i remember one of the mods said they use it with large question's that have many answers and you need to weed them out and go one by one
 
1:53 AM
@M.A.R. works for me
 
@JourneymanGeek Nice new avatar :)
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@BigJoe If you feel it has sufficient support (the score looks good), then you can flag your question with an "in need of moderator intervention" flag and ask for a mod to tag with [status-review]. I would only flag personally if it's functionality that very recently broke, because that helps developers narrow down when potential changes may have introduced the problem.
Otherwise... Unfortunately, it's just another bug report to add to the backlog.
 
2:31 AM
@Spevacus it's my favorite photo of late Mr Ash 😁
Considering I have temporarily hung up the moderator hat, seemed appropriate to bring that into use
 
@Spevacus Thanks for the info
 
 
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5:14 AM
How do you search the archive i keep hearing about? Is the archive this chat room or something else?
 
@BigJoe The comment archive? Here it is if that's what you're referring to (the normal chat search works - search box is in the top-right of the page)
 
5:39 AM
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I reached 10k rep! :DDD
 
@starball congrats! If anything good comes out of this debacle, it is that it surely bred a bunch of 10K-ers :)
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine mwahaha now I can see deleted posts >:D my useless power is unlimited!
@OlegValteriswithUkraine sideshowbarker is just going to the moon
 
@starball welcome-welcome :) I reached 10K about a week prior, and, well... I wish I could unsee some of the stuff
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine lmao
 
@starball you'll understand soon enough xD
 
5:50 AM
@OlegValteriswithUkraine OuO'
 
@starball >:( I can't reach 500 on SO
 
@RocketNikita I've gotten a bunch or rep from just teaching people how to use VS Code, which makes me feel a little guilty for some reason.
you'll get there!
 
@starball I'm lazy :D
 
6:05 AM
500 is just like 20 good answers, it's not that hard
 
@mousetail I already have 450 reputation, multiple of my answers were on bountied questions
Also good chunk of my rep is edits
 
Then just 2 answers
 
@RocketNikita you actually got me go check how did you manage to make 450 answers. Phew
 
@starball my sock got a ton of rep for 'use the function key'
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine lol
@JourneymanGeek :)
 
6:21 AM
I don't think good answers always need to be complicated
@OlegValteriswithUkraine in the days when I was a bright eyed and bushy tailed newbie I used to have the new question feed in my rss reader and tried to do one or two a day. It adds up
 
6:40 AM
@JourneymanGeek yeah, the number certainly adds up, I sit at 289 on SO myself with a very comfortable pace.
 
I really need to write an answer here on MSE
 
I don't believe in coincidences like this one. Very convenient "bug". Still think they did it on purpose, and the HMQ will be gone again.
 
@BigJoe write an answer that supports the community, and you'll get rich reps :)
 
Thanks
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack what's next? HNQ broken due to a bug?
 
6:48 AM
@BigJoe do try to avoid just reiterating what other people have already said though, unless you're rephrasing it in a significantly different way.
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack well, one good thing about SE is that I very much believe it was unintentional with "hilarious" timing.
 
@starball Thanks for the info
 
7:17 AM
@mousetail that's assuming people both accept and upvote. In my experience on SO (your mileage will vary), it's common for a variety of reasons for that to happen less than 25 of the time.
half of my answers have nothing. And when I look at other peoples' profiles, I see a similar pattern.
granted- I know you said "good answers", but even then I don't think that's a generally accurate statement. I've written several answers that I'm very proud of because they demonstrate deeper domain knowledge, and they get less views precisely because the question was more niche.
and I've written answers that I knew very little about the subject matter and got tons of upvotes because it was useful to many people.
 
@MetaAndrewT. actually it's abusing the system, same as upvoting spam just to make non striking mods life harder. This is off topic and mods have to close it. I strongly oppose such actions.
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack when you say "it's abusing the system", are you referring to the fact that meta discussion is happening on the main site?
 
@starball yes.
The goal does not justify all means.
Guess it's all about passive vs. aggressive/active kind of strike.
Purely passive won't have any impact, but there should be some line.
 
My initial reaction is that not super against it (this meta discussion happening on main), but my main lasting thought is just... "hm. why?". They already have a meta post, and it's in the hot meta posts sidebar.
 
@starball only on their own site. HNQ is on all sites.
 
7:26 AM
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack yeah, but I don't think that was the original point of the person who posted the question on their main site.
if anything, it sounds like the question post on their main site was done in reaction to the meta post being un-featured: "Normally this type of key information about AC.SE would be posted in meta and featured on the main site."
which, again, leads me to question why not just leave it to hot meta posts.
 
@starball well, only case that justify such action is if the hot meta questions widget is really removed and won't come back. But it's back.
@starball on second thought, it might have been done when there was no hot meta questions showing, and they couldn't know if and when it will be back. Still, now that it's back, should close or migrate that.
 
7:43 AM
@starball True, but 3 or 4 should be enough if you don't get ninjad
 
@starball finally! :P
Now reach 20k
:D
 
Where ninjad refers to someone who knows much more about the topic posting a much better answer soon after you post
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack ':) if the trendline continues and my activity continues, that'll be ~7 months. pretty fast I guess.
 
@mousetail I've done that several times here
 
if I may...

Ping Wars!

@Ping @Peter @in @the @room @to @know @more
 
7:49 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog alright, mr. smarty pants xD (said in good humour)
 
@starball my pants aren't smart. How to upgrade?
;)
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack beats me. ask sonic!
maybe try editing a bunch of stuff anonymously ;)
 
@starball nah I'll just become hedgehog. :P
(hedgehog doesn't even have pants)
Just noticed, hairboat signed the letter!
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@ShadowWizardStrikesBack true
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack who's that?
 
Used to be pretty active CM, especially during winter bashes...
 
7:53 AM
Formerly in charge of the CM team, IIRC, before Tim.
 
cool!
 
@Mithical oh, but ordinary CM before that, no?
 
Aye
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack ee (siree)
 
7:54 AM
Oh wait... I just found a basic issue. @Mith for one who prefer "they", how one can know if "sir" or "lady"?
@starball kk
 
ahem, wtf is going on here?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine ?
 
@OlegValteriswithUkraine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
*does a weird dance
 
@M.A.R. there is precedent of negligence and there is precedent of a sort (forgive me for lacking a better term) "young male" attitude that makes fun of what is considered girly or just non manly enough.
Furthermore, since they were just mentioned above, it is worth noticing that someone in the company has a quite twisted idea of what a joke is imho.
See the "hairboat hat" that required every single user on the network to ping hairboat.
subtle is the difference between laughing with somebody and at somebody
@PM2Ring technically, there are some differences since the picture upload is very very bad. Just know that some part of the site enforce a size limit on SE side, some apparently don't.
 
8:17 AM
@SPArcheon Meh. You're applying your own preferences to an interaction/'relationship' you're not a part of. That's easy to do to generate a nice bit of outrage on the web these days, but very often just wrong. Stay out of it.
Unless you see very clear signals of someone in distress, it's not your job to go and cry wolf.
And at all times, you first make sure someone is okay with something, before getting outraged on their behalf.
 
8:31 AM
@Glorfindel Quick question before I post a bug report: you're not using some script when it comes to post locking, right? The announcement you locked appears to have been "frozen" in the same way as historical locks or obsolete locks in that the answers are locked as well and the vote buttons are removed, rather than the expected way where the answers don't get locked.
Given that you've muddled with scripting in the past resulting in absurd results (such as a time when you submitted a "Close" review on an answer using a script that submitted a valid review task result type ID for that queue but not for the type of the post), I'd like to know if this is the result of you submitting a "freeze" request instead of "lock" using a script. If it isn't the result of a script, I'm going to post a bug report.
 
8:45 AM
@rene can you add me as a "friend" to your discord:)
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog You can go post a bug report. I've just unlocked it (for science) and re-locked, and it does indeed lock answers too. Do you need to take screenshots before I unlock it again?
 
@Tinkeringbell I've grabbed the screenshots I need. It's late now so will post tomorrow.
 
Okay. I'll unlock the post again (and keep an eye on any edits!) so at least users can interact with it.
 
9:06 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog as Tink says, no script involved, just a regular Content Dispute lock.
I didn't notice anything strange though, but perhaps that's because I'm a moderator?
 
9:19 AM
I saw no voting buttons on the answers either, so I guess it's not because you're a moderator? :P
 
 
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2:52 PM
Ben Popper on June 07, 2023
Developers love automating solutions to their problems, and with the rise of generative AI, this concept is likely to be applied to both the creation, maintenance, and the improvement of code at an entirely new level.
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack you ask
 
🚽
 
What does Smokey do on its days off?
Any theories?
 
@KevinB 🚽
 
3:10 PM
@ElementsinSpace Probably reads transcripts while keeping all the coffee to himself
 
@RocketNikita «Кунг-фу́, ле́ди, Чуба́кка, во́дка»
 
@ElementsinSpace ???
@ElementsinSpace Really why would you put stress marks?
 
@RocketNikita I'm still learning.
 
@ElementsinSpace Is there any easy way to add stress marks using the keyboard?
 
!!/coffee SmokeDetector
 
3:24 PM
:(
 
@RocketNikita Nope, I had to use a special program (Ukulele) to set the keyboard up just right.
@PeterKolosov Smokey is on strike.
 
@Feeds Self-healing trust is the future of community building
 
@ElementsinSpace But Smokey should to drink sometimes, lol :)
 
@MetaAndrewT. lol
 
4:19 PM
"The Smoker You Drink, the Player You Get" — Joe Walsh.
 
5:15 PM
@PeterKolosov Don't worry. I'm kicking back and relaxing.
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@SmokeDetector We were just talking about you.
 
Be careful of Smokey! Smokey is not a bot!
 
@SmokeDetector Any plans for the rest of the week?
 
@Tinkeringbell It's now morning. I'm writing a bug report and I'd like one more thing to test: does the bug also happen for the "wiki answer" lock? That's (currently) the only other type of lock reason that's supposed to impose a "traditional" lock on a question (rather than policy, comment-only, or freezing).
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I'll lock the sandbox.
 
5:21 PM
@Tinkeringbell Sandbox room or sandbox question?
 
Question
Rooms can't be locked
It's locked. I still see voting arrows but I'm on mobile. What do you see @SonictheAnonymousHedgehog
 
@Tinkeringbell It works properly. Voting buttons show and the answers are still unlocked and editable.
 
Okay. Unlocking it again then :)
 
Now I know it only affects content dispute locks
 
Yep. That's good :)
 
5:37 PM
@Glorfindel Can I know what's stuff here?
Strange
It was especially, or... what? Just curious
 
GcL
@PeterKolosov Looked like an attempt at a pun.
What led you to a rejected edit from half a dozen years ago?
 
@GcL Because it's Glorfindel's edit!
VEEEEEEEERY funny lol
 
 
GcL
@PeterKolosov What's the interest in that users' edits? Glorfindel's sense of humor apparently includes homonyms.
 
@GcL Do you have something against?
 
GcL
5:49 PM
@PeterKolosov Homonyms? No, but I can't come up with a witty one to reply with.
I guess they're like something that is there right in front of you, but you just can't see quickly enough.
 
6:10 PM
@PeterKolosov users need some time to get accustomed to the community they're participating in, and make mistakes while they do that. Please don't hold those against them, whether they're current moderators or not :)
 
@Glorfindel I don't hold against, just asking, because that's funny :)
 
@GcL homonyms? First time seeing that word. Is it pun for the pride month? ;)
oh it's real..
> each of two or more words having the same spelling or pronunciation but different meanings and origins
Another word has been learnt!
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack :p
 
digging for pings backlog
 
GcL
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack It's a joke word from the 1600's if those Merriam Webster folks are to be believed.
 
6:18 PM
@JourneymanGeek ask who? Best choice was Mith...
@GcL well many serious things started as joke, or accidents. I think. :D
 
GcL
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack I concur. I just can't figure out which the 1600's started as. Maybe I'll got ask the history stack once the strike resolves.
 
@GcL or English.SE
I asked something on ELL as result of chat discussion once, and it became HNQ, giving me lots of respect fake internet points. ;)
 
GcL
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Unlikely to get an answer there as there's really not surprise about how to say or spell "1600". I'm leaning toward it started as a joke as the Gregorian calendar was pretty new at the time.
 
Something about gods being immortal, yet can be killed, so the word doesn't fit.
 
GcL
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack You might have been looking for the non-word "immorterial" It's a thing that doesn't exist and yet still won't go away. /S
 
6:24 PM
@Tinkeringbell they can, kind of. They can be set into a timeout, which is temporary, and ordinary users can't chat.
 
It's called a timeout though, not a lock
Different things
 
So? Just wording. ;)
Well depends what's the goal.
 
Wording is important to avoid questions like "the chatroom or the question?"
 
@ElementsinSpace counting sheep
@starball uh oh not the banana dance I hope? ;)
 
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack That's an interesting theory.
 
6:28 PM
@starball ^
@ElementsinSpace I know!
 
Notice how the banana is yellow?
Somebody else say something;
get that thing off my screen,
please
it's enthusiastic,
offensively enthusiastic.
 
just minimize it
 
GcL
@KevinB I usually do inspect > delete node. How do you minimize it?
 
you'd need an extension that provides that functionality, ;)
 
I have a Delete this element from page extension
 
6:38 PM
 
GcL
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack That reminds me of the books series, The Craft Sequence. Deceased deities and the accounting mess that ensues. Pretty good read.
 
7:33 PM
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack Can you refresh the open letter page a couple more times, its nearly got 1,000 signatures.
 
7:44 PM
(you said: every time you refresh, the number goes up)
 
 
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9:45 PM
@ElementsinSpace the bananas will not be silenced
 
@starball Either way I'll have that song in my head for at least a week.
 
10:09 PM
Oh dear, I never should have edited Philippe's post — what was I thinking?
 
@ElementsinSpace that it needed an edit
 
@JourneymanGeek It's editing withdrawals I guess. But, now thousands of users will see my stupid name on that post; I'm meant to be on strike.
 
GcL
@ElementsinSpace scab /S
 
@GcL Fair : (
 
GcL
@ElementsinSpace To be fair, I thought the strike was from the publicly useful parts of SE... not meta.
 
10:21 PM
@GcL oi
 
GcL
@JourneymanGeek 😈
 
10:44 PM
@ShadowWizardStrikesBack whoever it is you need to, ideally the person who you need to refer to
 
GcL
@ElementsinSpace Oh hey. Found the post you edited. They probably should have led with that post and followed up with a collaboration of how do we "find the ChatGPT posts?". I got fewer than 10 questions down on the bounty board before I found one.
 

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