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1:38 AM
 
2:16 AM
For the featured post about user roles can I suggest a specific idea that's in the question what 30k users should get even though somebody linked to that question already?
 
2:33 AM
@Ethan I think there's two aspects here
one is 'what reputation independent privileges would be useful' and 'what gaps does the current system have?'
and sure, you could if its a full answer describing its benefits
and how it would be useful as a standalone role
 
Got it. Thanks
 
 
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@tripleee its an image of a watch face, and its chocolatey brown
legit user but NAA
 
yeah, probably the OP attempting to update their question - left a comment
 
8:26 AM
Two smoke detectors? ;)
@tripleee k, still up
 
8:46 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard correct.
 
@SPArcheon that's rare to see from you to me. ;-)
!!/Chimnify old messages
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'chimnify'.
 
:(
BTW @tripleee forgot to ask yesterday, what's your record in your "rep bubble game"? To how much rep did you get it to show before it got reset? ;)
I do it with the profile bubbles:
:D
To be honest, not even sure what's the "Responses" tab, never went there. lol
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard well, it is not like it was that hard to find out what I was talking about.
as you said yourself, it was indeed quite pathetic.
 
@SPArcheon hard? No. But it took whole minute to read. :P
 
8:52 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard Edits to your posts, comments on your posts/@ you, answers to your questions.
 
@Tinkeringbell how is it listed?
Wait, all those are in the inbox, so isn't it redundant?
 
Your rep is in your inbox too.
Looks like that.
 
@Tinkeringbell fair
@Tinkeringbell so better caption the tab as "inbox"
 
No, because it has no rep changes :P
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard wowee
@ShadowTheKidWizard lmao
 
8:57 AM
@Tinkeringbell "Mini Inbox" then? :D
@starball bows
 
Or just... responses. Since you know, it kinda lists all the ways other users have 'responded' to a post or comment :P
 
@starball glad to make you laugh! :P
 
Which reminds me though. Today is the day they're going to destroy the inbox.
 
@Tinkeringbell boring :P
@Tinkeringbell nah
That's rare case when I actually think they'll do something good.
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard yah. Having to manually dismiss notifications is never a good thing. They're now adding an extra step to that.
 
8:59 AM
@Tinkeringbell that would be awesome for people like @trip, @rene, and me who love to stash numbers. :D
 
Go play cookie clicker instead of SE then.
 
also, good morning, shadow!
 
@starball like someone here taught me... ello!
 
@Tinkeringbell SE is my cookie clicker ):<
@ShadowTheKidWizard jello!
 
@starball I never clicked the cookie dialog
Still didn't.
 
9:01 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard WHAT
 
See my bug report about blank spaces in blog posts.
 
~pics~ screeshot or it's not real
 
I stash banners. :D
 
*of the cookie dialog
@ShadowTheKidWizard but it takes up so much screen space!!
 
@starball Clears browser history (including cookes), sends screenshot. You're way too gullible.
 
9:02 AM
oof
 
@starball nah, it's fine.
@star ^
Whole screen so you won't say I photoshopped it
:D
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard it's real :O
 
@starball yup
Few times it actually got in the way, think in review, so I hid it using dev tools.
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard lol I spy an IE in the taskbar
 
But usually it just sits there in the corner quietly.
@starball that's a must, need it to connect with one of the clients. :/
 
9:06 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard I have smallish laptop screen, so in incognito, mine sits there loudly blocking things ):<
@ShadowTheKidWizard ah :/ o7
 
@starball yeah, rare case where size does matter. ;)
@starball haha, had to Google "o7". I'm so old. :-D
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard hehe
 
I prefer this though:
:P
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard I thought you would get it because I've seen you do o/ .... or was that someone else...
maybe it was bad_coder
 
@starball I'm using the \o/ stuff but actually not sure what it means, I just follow along others. :-D
 
9:10 AM
 
looks like gym class, hands up in the air.
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard I prefer this though:
 
@SPArcheon yay!
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard lol
 
still here, @ShadowTheKidWizard, still here...
 
9:11 AM
@starball looks painful
That's O777, i.e. having 777 airplane hitting your head
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard actually loled at this
 
@starball :D
@SPArcheon but how screen size is uncouth? ;)
 
on a completely unrelated note: has anyone ever floated ideas for ways to have some friendly casual interactions with staff members? I've kind of thought it would be nice to get to know them and have friendly chit chat like we have here. maybe even play some online games together like skribbl.io. But timezone and work scheduling would probably make that difficult.
WAG is a nice asynchronous-able game :D
*I mean like- staff members that don't usually do any meta interactions
 
Has anyone ever asked staff if they're interested in being labelled 'friends'?
 
@Tinkeringbell I feel like this is implying something, but I think I'm too naive to know what. what?
 
9:18 AM
@starball well, we have some friendly staff members here already, but I don't expect any new staff members to appear. And even the friendly ones are usually busy, games are out of the question.
@starball she means they're not our friends. :)
 
aw ok
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard That too, but also: you can float all the ideas for ways to have interactions, but you first need to know if the other party is even interested in having such interactions too.
 
I can consider e.g. @g3rv4 as a friend, and feels fine to ping him sometimes like that, but that's rare, and I even won't ping JNat just for fun. It's complicated.
@Tinkeringbell very true, and problem is that even just asking might place them in awkward situation, so better not go there.
 
I see
 
The most friendly and chatty developer here was Oded, but even he didn't take part in games or WAG.
 
9:23 AM
I'll settle for what interaction there is on MSE then
 
@starball that's good ;)
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard I think around 2k
 
@tripleee not bad!
 
rene has shared screen shots with like +25k IIRC
 
@tripleee yeah, I didn't find it, but remember something like that either. lol
 
 
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10:53 AM
returning spammer, previous spam on Stack Overflow a couple of weeks ago was never entered into metasmoke superuser.com/questions/1755195/…
 
@tripleee See the profile. Looks like spam to me.
 
@tripleee well there's nothing to add to metasmoke and honestly it's just crap, can't see the spam there.
 
I did see their profile, they are webmastering a few sites but it could still be a user in Paris who is asking about Lyon ... though I personally regard it as highly suspicious
 
@tripleee -8, still up :/
@tripleee pure spam, need to add that domain to Smokey blacklist.
(pretty sure I don't have that privilege.)
 
my money would be that the crypto one is a spam seed but only time will tell (and probably not if it's deleted before they post the "answer")
 
10:57 AM
@ShadowTheKidWizard while I get the underlining sentiment, I still wonder how silly our world is when "friend" is almost perceived as a menace yet we are quite fond of expressions like "bro, guys, pal" etc etc.
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard blacklist no, watch already done
 
@tripleee don't think it will be deleted until Roomba takes care of it.
@tripleee oh, yeah, meant watch.
@SPArcheon I never use "bro" or "pal" IRL, and rarely online as well. But in our case here, having staff as friends is problematic even if just because putting them in awkward position when we need something.
 
 
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12:08 PM
@ShadowTheKidWizard and this is even more weird. Would make sense if the word "friend" actually carried a strong value and your "friends" were Mane Seven level. Yet, more often than not "friend" is just little more than "we are in the same class at school" and still we value the word like it was just the word to give value to the relationship instead of the relationship itself.
So, now some use "friend" online to mean that they are in "friendly terms" with someone, others take offense by that with the usual "I don't know you, who you think you are calling me friend?" and...
often neither one values the real friends how they deserve.
 
@SPArcheon ah, that's true, and kind of language barrier, I guess.
@SPArcheon that's also true.
Problem is it's different in each culture, each language, and even often each person.
Some people use "sir" when approaching others, and some find that odd too.
 
@SPArcheon Same class at school is definitely not equal to a friendship. Or there would never be bullying within a single class.
 
12:25 PM
@Tinkeringbell some have no problem to bully their friends
 
Then they're not friends. The two simply aren't compatible.
 
Friend is probably one of the words with most different meanings. Like I said, each person can take it in totally different directions.
 
@Tinkeringbell read that again, that was kinda the point. We give so much weight to the word and yet so often we give so little value to the actual relationship.
 
Saying the word requires zero effort, actually doing something with it already requires actual efforts.
 
@SPArcheon Eh, no. That really should be the other way around: The word is used like it means nothing, while the actual relationship comes with a whole lot of responsibility.
 
12:31 PM
@Tinkeringbell Yep. Should.
still, plenty of people doing the exact opposite.
proud of the word, yet valuing them so little for the sake of personal gain
 
@SPArcheon politicians love to call anyone in their favor a "friend", yeah.
The latest Trump scandal is related, and super annoying.
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard Or 'middle class'. No reputable Dutch statistics office will give you a hard number on what's middle class (salary wise), but politicians will keep saying they will make everything better for the 'middle class'.
 
I can easily envision he and Musk work together, using money to win elections again, and rule the world together. A dead world.
 
(Or, more correct, they will make everything better for the lower class and middle class, or for the lower class without it being detriment to the middle class)
 
@Tinkeringbell yeah, that's a good point. Here they ditched it in favor of other things though.
@ShadowTheKidWizard they'll both be President in rotation, and Kanye will be the Minister of Defense. :P
Whoever piss him off will get the Red Button.
That's what the world needs:
!!/ambulance
 
12:41 PM
@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'ambulance'.
 
World needs less homo sapiens.
Not an ambulance that keeps more of them around for longer
 
@Tinkeringbell only the good guys :D
 
And who determines what is good/bad?
 
@Tinkeringbell me, duh
The Great Shadow
buwahahaahaha
 
12:45 PM
Well, it's nice to know the world can't be saved.
Makes no difference then, I can stop trying to save it.
Perhaps even actively make it worse... take a plane to go on holiday or something.
 
@Tinkeringbell buy clothes, I read yesterday that's the worst thing for environment.
Let me see if it's available in English...
 
Oh, I just did. Needed a new shirt.
Bought it yesterday.
 
Ah yeah, those were in the news here too... bad company.
 
@Tinkeringbell indeed, and they only grow
 
12:50 PM
nu.nl/economie/6232112/… < Dunno what translate makes of that. But it's been a thing since at least october.
 
1:02 PM
@ShadowTheKidWizard indeed! I'm always happy to see these pings :)
@starball I like to have random conversations :) and the nice thing about this pings is that I don't feel guilty about missing them, I can come back to them days after. I'm not up for playing games, but def happy to chat
 
@tripleee already flagged, probably only SU mod can help at this point. :/
 
it's only been an hour; there will be more flaggers eventually
 
@tripleee where from? Those who read Smokey reports already flagged, and the report is buried deep by now.
Ordinary site users rarely flag, from what I see.
They might downvote or flag as NAA, but not spam.
@g3rv4 that's good to hear! :D
!!/ping g3r
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard No such command 'ping'.
 
:(
Well there's a bot who can actually do that...
in Shadow's Den, 8 secs ago, by FOX 9000
@ShadowTheKidWizard @g3r
 
1:16 PM
I post "still up" notices in Charcoal too, where there is more turnaround over the hours
 
@tripleee oh. Nice!
Maybe we should add this as Smokey feature, so that it will post e.g. after two hours, if the post is still not deleted and of course only if it has at least one tp feedback.
 
1:38 PM
New inbox is on - anyone want to refresh, poke around, confirm for me it is working for you?
 
@YaakovEllis on what site is the "go to full" link suppose to send you to?
 
@SPArcheon on all sites it goes to StackExchange.com
that is the only place where the global inbox is hosted (and we didnt change much with that on this round)
@SPArcheon is it working for you?>
 
@YaakovEllis nope, probably because meta.stackexchange is trying to use some cookie that I didn't allow to.
making an exception just for that domain isn't enough apparently...
and if I try to login the site tells me that I am sus.
I know I am yellow, but I'm a pony, not a crew member from Among Us.
 
shouldnt require any special cookie, though would need a page refresh at the least
 
1:54 PM
Yep. That was the cookie.
Anyway, funny to see the old avatar still there...
Will have to try to purge it again.
 
2:14 PM
Also, I think @ShadowTheKidWizard was volunteering some days ago to take my place pestering you about something...
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard we have a feature request for that, but it's not entirely clear what the design should look like
the browser plugin for managing SOCVR requests looks pretty close to what I think I would like, but I'm no Javascript person, so I will probably not waste time trying to adapt it
this one ^ I think
@YaakovEllis some glitches for me, it's showing messages I have already seen
maybe it was just fallout from the transition, looks good now (though I can't say I prefer the new design)
 
@YaakovEllis up and running. Just a quick question, I sometimes see "Refresh" link appears, with (0) or (1) but clicking it does nothing. Bug, or something I miss?
(and no new items after actual page refresh.)
@SPArcheon not anymore
@tripleee you happen to have screenshots of the old design? I'm not sure if the captions were distinguished before or not. (Now they're not which looks bad, but not sure how to report it.)
@SPArcheon nah, it was just part of my rants about lack of winter bash command for Smokey. ;)
@tripleee oh, didn't mean userscript or adding buttons, I meant that Smokey itself should "re-post" reports after a while.
Same as you do, just automatic.
 
2:31 PM
yeah, I created a Github issue about that a while back, but it's sort of in limbo because there are different opinions about what exactly it should look like
 
@tripleee look like? Sorry I miss something.
Smokey should post the same report again, maybe with some indicator that it's a re-post, that's all.
No special design or debate is needed.
Only way is using a timer, so maybe it's technically impossible, depends what language is being used.
(some probably don't have timers.)
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard sorry, don't seem to have any old screenshots around
 
@tripleee no biggie
 
ISTR there might be some in old meta questions of mine but really nothing concrete
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard You need to determine things like timing... every 2 hours? every hour? faster? Only in Charcoal or in here too?
 
2:37 PM
Also, just found out there are 48 inbox items which is weird, expected 50
 
@Tinkeringbell in Charcoal I have been converging on 2 hours by practical experimentation, hourly seems too often there
when something was particularly egregious I sometimes expedite it
 
@Tinkeringbell the accurate number is less relevant, would leave that for the dev who'll do it, and it should re-post in the same place it posted originally.
 
or if I know I will be in meetings the next hour+
 
@tripleee what're the debates about then? ;)
 
@Tinkeringbell that's what I wonder about as well. :)
 
2:39 PM
@ShadowTheKidWizard Ah yes. Because every developer's favorite number is 42.
 
@Tinkeringbell umm, so what's the added 6?
Oh, 6-8
Anyway, marked all as unread, for science. :P
 
the FR was actually for a view in metasmoke which I think would be less intrusive than automated reminders github.com/Charcoal-SE/metasmoke/issues/875
 
@tripleee ohh, well, that's not what I'm after.
Re-post after two hours shouldn't be intrusive IMO
oh wait there are 50, I missed two when mass clicking. :D
haha the inbox ran away!
 
@ShadowTheKidWizard how did you get that to happen?
 
@YaakovEllis F12
Tried to debug the blank space bug
 
2:51 PM
norepro. you just hit F12 twice and it stayed stuck over there?
 
But looks like it's not CSS issue, rather the code thinks there are more items.
@YaakovEllis 1. Open the inbox, 2. click F12, 3. Watch the inbox running away
Also, not sure if related, getting this:
@Yaakov any change in the page size while the inbox is open cause it to lose position.
 
 
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5:22 PM
@YaakovEllis Do the fixes on the inbox mean you are finally rerunning Hairboat hat?
(sorry, first and last joke on WB for me, but this was too coincidental to ignore)
 
6:16 PM
🚽
 
6:26 PM
@g3rv4 nice you meet you :)
 
@starball well anyone meets themselves every day
 
6:56 PM
Hiya, I feel like I have been a minor victim of cross site serial downvoting that wasn’t reversed by the automatic algorithm - what should I do?
 
personally, i'd take it as a badge of honor and move on
but otherwise, you'd need to get a mod involved
 
7:20 PM
@starball o/
 

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