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12:10 AM
@cairdcoinheringaahing that's brilliant, only in the US would a pair of socks have left-right markers...
@JourneymanGeek I suppose Singapore has tropical climate, I certainly don't wear socks during Summer... But right now I'm loving my socks and my new pair of cozy winter slippers.
 
@bad_coder also since I work in a 'remote' office (but not from home), no one 'really' cares how I dress for work
 
@JourneymanGeek my kind of t-shirt!! But I'm planning on not getting to 100k anywhere, it's way to much work on the tags I specialize in.
 
@bad_coder I didn't plan to either :D
 
@JourneymanGeek lol you just have that kind of magnetic personality and prolific posting tendencies to go with it :)
 
@bad_coder I've had a decade to work it out :D
 
12:24 AM
@JourneymanGeek I hadn't considered the possibility of integrating over time...
more code, I have to be off o/
 
 
5 hours later…
Rob
5:25 AM
@bad_coder Please note that proposed FAQs and FAQs, which that post is not, are to be created with inline links (and editing them out would be rolled back). Rather than the reason being an ease for anyone but yourself you should have said the reason was the non-standard practice of making such an edit. I would reject such edits on my posts. [steps back out of the conversation]
 
5:56 AM
@Rob well then I didn't see those FAQs (or probably I read them and missed the rule you're invoking - for which you give no reference). But I also know for a fact most of the prolific editors choose to use lists for their links (especially on Stack Overflow and the lengthier the post more so). If you look at the canonicals it's rare to find one with inline links, and those posts have had the most significant number of editors overall (so that speaks for consensus).
 
Rob
6:07 AM
You offered no reference to support your preference. It's not a case of prolific editors preferring it's a case of the old editor using the old format; and as has been pointed out, the new one doesn't. It's not a consensus that dinosaurs rule the Earth, even if they lived here much longer than humans; same for the horseshoe crab. As to your removed comment, you realize that isn't correct. --- The FAQ about editing can be found by searching, that you didn't read it doesn't mean it's not
applicable, or that the FR you propose above would be well received.
 
@Rob I don't need to offer a reference and I find your style of arguing pretentious if not condescending.
 
Rob
7 hours ago, by bad_coder
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog that's an interesting idea, but then I'd be at increased risk of no one understanding the edit summary. (I actually developed the habit of the introductory sentence on SO because it tended to be a preemptive counter-argument to the "no improvement" rejection reason, and it worked.)
See, you are incorrect; you already said so
 
@Rob there are in fact plenty of reasons why classic Markdown style inline references are generally avoided in the modern MD derivates like ReST.
@Rob well no, because of the thousands of edits I've made organizing inline references to lists you've been the only one to turn it into an argument.
 
6:38 AM
@Rob I know you mean well but I dislike argumentativeness, if you want try starting you sentences with some agreeableness and I'm more than likely to respond well to that.
 
7:20 AM
hmm?
looking at popcorn
!!/hats
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 No such command 'hats'.
 
!!/popcorn
 
@MetaAndrewT. No such command 'popcorn'.
 
):
wait think I've seen underwear lying around...
digging
 
7:22 AM
boom
 
@Rob oh my underwear drawer? @rene knows. :D
 
!!/socks
 
@rene No such command 'socks'.
 
no no not socks
Ok I'll look for it. If I don't come back send rescue team in 6-8 hours.
 
You're not telling me you wear socks on your ears, right? Socks are underwear
 
7:25 AM
@rene wait, really?? Socks are undergarments, not underwear afaik.
going to ask on English.SE
@rene Sonic fastest
 
No, socks are undershoes.
 
hmm think I understand what went wrong. In the past, I had socks and underwear together in same drawer, as can be seen here. But later each moved to its own drawer, and I posted only the new socks drawer, causing the underwear to envy.
@rene I win :-P
 
7:53 AM
:D
 
8:28 AM
@Rob @bad_coder As the primary editor of the FAQs, I can state that such a "rule" isn't firm. For me, inlining links makes it easier to ascertain while reading which specific post a given link links to, especially with source links. It's definitely not a hard, fast rule, though, and it's perfectly fine to have footer links in FAQs in my opinion. It just makes that process a little harder, but it's still possible.
Inline links aren't the only way to get such info easily, though. Sometimes I also do so by hovering over links in the render preview, which works for both forms of links.
In my years of editing FAQs, I've used both forms of links, and if there were such a rule, I definitely would have run into it at some point
 
9:15 AM
Are there any written rules for editing at all?
AFAIK, there aren't. Each editor edits as they see fit, and of course there's common sense. People can disagree about editing habits, and it's fine.
And when agreement can't be reached and both sides insist they're correct, that's when a moderator should make a final decision.
 
9:33 AM
Well, my final decision is that it's a waste of time and effort to go bumping posts just because you think the link should be somewhere else. Whether you use inline links or lists is primarily a choice of the person who wrote a post, and when you edit a post you just leave that alone. Changes like that are truly 'no improvement whatsoever', and disguising them as 'ease of reading' is just... I can't even.
2
 
10:27 AM
@Tinkeringbell well I'm also very annoyed with useless edits bumping ancient posts back to the front, just had discussion about that in comments under such post, the other person claiming that any edit is super important. (They just changed SO to Stack Overflow in 9 years old answer.)
Feel free to check in my activity, won't link here, but anyway I didn't think that's the case here.
 
11:00 AM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 The post in question had already been bumped earlier by a more substantive edit I made
A bit of a question, though: is it OK to make a non-substantive edit if that post ((parent) question or any (other) answers) had already been bumped earlier by a substantive edit?
 
I think we're trying to rules lawyer a bit
I'd say use your discretion. And consider the spirit, not the letter of why its bad to bump
"I came across it "naturally" and something is fundamentally broken to the reader" - fix
"Its on the front page - and I can tweak it a little with little disruption" - means new posts arn't displaced by it - fix
"I want everything to fit a certain model whether or not anyone sees it!" uhhhh
and TBH - I occationally do the "it bothers the hell out of me" edit but my primary goal here isn't just "trimming the bushes" :D
 
11:23 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I think it's fine, yes. (Full edit, not suggested.)
 
11:36 AM
@JourneymanGeek just don't polish turds and all should be fine. ;)
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 That comes with the assumption that whatever is being done, is a polishing
Sometimes, it isn't even that, it's more like just moving turds around
 
@Tinkeringbell aka too minor, yeah, I totally agree, like changing SO to Stack Overflow when it's the only change.
(to 9 years old post that was not bumped shortly before)
Also, moving turds is gross. Eww.
:D
Read today about Germany case where 5 people found dead in their home, of which 3 are just kids. But police gave no details, so something there is odd. @Luuklag @Tink @rene you're all from Netherlands, right? Not Germany? (Not that it really matters...)
hey JD
!!/coffee JD
 
12:00 PM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 brews a cup of Macchiato for @JD
 
This doesn't ping, is it? ^
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 they're all from the Netherlands.
 
@JourneymanGeek yeah... Bart is from Germany... who else?
oh @Magi
Not pingable :(
 
Also in situations like this - I think waiting to have details out is good
 
@JourneymanGeek of course. Note that unlike past cases, I didn't write any speculation of my own. Though it's tempting...
It's just... sad. Really sad.
!!/remove sadness
 
12:04 PM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 No such command 'remove'.
 
:(
@Glorfindel do we really need the "Imported from this uservoice item" part of an old question? Does it still have any value?
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 linkie?
 
Appears only thrice meta.stackexchange.com/…
Maybe put in a request on meta, I'll rubber stamp it, and we'll get it sorted :D
 
yeah, well, I'd just remove it, making sure the question stands on its own of course.
@JourneymanGeek nah, not important enough IMO ;)
 
12:08 PM
I mean i could do it
but I don't feel comfortable self answering matters of policy
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 News here said there's rumors the family was quarantining due to Covid, and that there was a suicide note. So probably just another of those family dramas
 
I'll do it
@Tinkeringbell ugh
 
Yep.
Oh well I can rant about crazy people hurting others and not just themselves but it brings nobody back... So life goes on.
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 TBH, I think I'll do the edit when I'm free and just use the scream test to see if anyone minds
 
Rob
12:36 PM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Writing proper edit summaries is not only good behaviour: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/303220/3648282 meta.stackoverflow.com/a/303244/3648282 but may help getting your edit approved (not the other way around). --- You can see 99.9% of the links are inline: meta.stackexchange.com/posts/7931/revisions - find the FAQ explaining why / why not, yourselves.
 
12:49 PM
@Tinkeringbell oh that really sucks
@JourneymanGeek lol @ scream test :D
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 good question. I guess it's nice for future SE archaeologists but they could use the revision history as well. FWIW, those UserVoice edits (one every three days) are fully automated.
 
@Glorfindel I edited out the ones I found :D
 
@Glorfindel oh. lol, nice!
screaming
 
Rob
1:54 PM
Thanks Glo, I went through them all. @JNat cross-site spammer: stackexchange.com/users/22948735/emchang6969sibal?tab=accounts
 
2:39 PM
@Rob cross has been crossed, single site now. (and suspended)
 
Rob
Thx
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 last I heared was murder suicide.
 
@Luuklag makes me super sad to know parent(s) can reach such a situation... and over that?? Such a waste.
I mean.... well, you might think it's all over, but the kids...
meh... need..
!!/coffee
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 brews a cup of Macchiato for @ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3
 
@SmokeDetector so? It is tasty.
 
Rob
2:50 PM
^^^ Only two weeks on Chem, lucky.
 
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 and even worse, the ages... just like me and my own kids... :(
@Rob hmm so good chance it's automatic, case of a spammer that was already nuked and got back.
 
Rob
I think Math and Bio had too many enormous posts and were simply tired of it, and ☢️ the account; while Chem's decision was much less severe.
 
user1110136
@Rob no
 
Rob
Still, JN can see them all, and the history; make his own call.
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 @Loong yes it's a new account, the two weeks is re-creation-auto.
 
user1110136
We know. That's what we are trying to tell you.
 
Rob
3:02 PM
22 mins ago, by Shadow Wizard Is Vaccinated V3
@Rob cross has been crossed, single site now. (and suspended)
7 mins ago, by Loong
@Rob no
 
@Loong well I just assumed, but it does make sense.
 
Rob
So clearly, it was transparent; invisible.
 
3:30 PM
How can I find the highly voted question with no answer on a site?
'Unanswered' filter gives ' no upvoted or accepted answers' :-/
 
Probably something like SEDE, find all questions not linked to any answer and order by score?
 
Is there a query?
Does the Konami code work every year on the winter bash website?
 
@Mithical Thanks :)
 
3:58 PM
@ShadowWizardIsVaccinatedV3 scream test triggered
 
Maybe I have a laisse faire approach over licencing, but attributing 'dead' content feels ... wierd
 
Rob
4:45 PM
@Wolgwang No, and it's been known to work here as well:
 
5:06 PM
@Rob It worked last year IIRC ?
 
Rob
5:24 PM
Easy to search on MSE, that word doesn't come up often for other reasons.
 
@Chicken ⬆️⬆️⬇️⬇️⬅️➡️⬅️➡️🅱️🅰️
(Not expecting it to work)
 
Rob
5:52 PM
🐣
 

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