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3:43 AM
Not so morning
 
4:42 AM
@SonictheMaskedWerehog was, some time. I have no idea what happened to it
@Rob Well, things are extremely cheap here, so a McDonald's employee's monthly salary is the monthly salary of a well-off job here.
Regardless, such comparisons and salary calculators terribly fail at grasping the whole picture. Our worlds are so different that a lot of work payments here don't make sense and a lot of benefits there don't make sense here either
 
Rob
5:03 AM
@M.A.R. Apparently you have: "Mash Donalds, Boof Burger, Subways, Sheak Shack, Pizza Hat, etc.", so I'd compare how much is a hamburger or pizza there vs. here. How much does a comparable car (or bicycle, if that's more reasonable) cost. How much is a home with a tiny bit of land (if there's such a thing). Basically compare the cost of living vs. earnings. If everyone is guaranteed a job and a home (as in another country) that changes
things compared to where one must pay for everything - even medical can make you broke.
 
Medical don't make you broke here
 
Rob
I understand that the comparison isn't simple, nor is moving to the so-called greener grass (which isn't in North America).
 
Some people apparently prefer to be treated here than the US :p
@Rob Well, if we're going with 20k dollar prices, a nice hammy burger with all the stuff in it costs 1 dollar.
There are no big franchises here like the MacDonald's, so even that comparison isn't simple
There's incredibly heavy tariff on foreign cars here. For the normal chap, if you don't have connections. They want to encourage us to buy the amazing products Iranian car companies montage, so natural selection is sped up.
And we have many millions of Iranian citizens below the poverty line, and I think it's getting worse. The economic gap is ever widening.
I think you're starting to see why I don't go out too often. Even a physiology textbook counts as escapist.
And finally, everything is more expensive in Tehran compared to even other 'big' cities.
Tabriz isn't that big I guess, especially by western standards. I really love this city though
 
Rob
@M.A.R. Average daily US hospital cost is: 165932677.94 IRR (U$3,949). Source: debt.org/medical/hospital-surgery-costs
 
HOLY MOLY
The money we paid the donor aside, my kidney transplant cost around 10M tomans, I think.
(100M rials)
I was hospitalized for twenty two days
BBL breakfast
 
Rob
5:15 AM
@M.A.R. McDonald's has a special ATM, where all the big meals are U$5 (so, Big Mac burger is $5).
@M.A.R. We have cities where the prices for everything is unreasonable, mostly an area of the city; example everywhere sells tiny coffee cup for $1.50, where you should at least get a medium. Places that have long hours charge more than places that are only open 8 hours a day. Etc. Many ways to be ripped off if you can't be bothered to travel for better deal.
@M.A.R. but not at Mash Donald's ;)
Here donor can not be paid, but it will cost you a kidney (figuratively) to get one put in.
 
starting to help development on backend...
in addition to mobile apps --> compile time = increase!
 
6:00 AM
@MetaAndrewT. Ugh. Is it at levels of time yet where you can at least do something else, or is it at that in-between stage where you're stuck doing nothing for seconds/minutes at a time?
 
Rob
It used to be that you could eat while the compilation and test suite ran, now you'd be lucky to get to make a coffee. The cost of progress.
 
I still can work on another, if only I remember to go back and continue the original task :|
not so good at multitasking...
 
6:18 AM
"I need a PC with EXACTLY 2 cores not faster than 1.5 ghz... for the purity"
 
Rob
JG, A modern cellphone is a bit faster and can accept a full size screen and keyboard:
Samsung DeX is a feature included on some high-end Samsung handheld devices that enables users to extend their device into a desktop-like experience by connecting a keyboard, mouse, and monitor. The name "DeX" is a contraction of "Desktop eXperience". Samsung first included the DeX feature on Samsung's Galaxy S8 and S8+ smartphones, and has continued to support the feature on all of its latest flagship smartphones, including the Galaxy S9, S10, S20, Note8, Note9 and Note10 series throughout Android Pie. The Galaxy A90 5G is the first Galaxy A phone with DeX support. It has also been introduced...
 
@Rob whooosh
the joke is using a slower system so compiles take longer
 
Rob
Ah, it wasn't clear that you were replying to my comment from earlier; I'm using the milliseconds between commands to switch to this tab.
 
@Rob oh the conversation in general
I actually use my windows tablet as a second screen for my work PC when on night shift for more efficient work. miracast is awesome
 
Rob
6:35 AM
A big laptop tablet is nice for home use, watching videos without squinting.
 
@Rob 11ish inches
though the SP7 is a different aspect ratio than most, so feels bigger
 
Rob
Ha, my phone is 6.2"
I have the widescreen 18.5:9 ratio, barely sticks out of my jean's pocket.
 
the SPs are 3:2 ?
so almost like an oldschool monitor
won't fit in a pocket
 
Rob
Need cargo pants :)
 
not big enough
I'd need a work apron ala adam savage :D
 
Rob
6:50 AM
Wouldn't be comfortable.
 
I can fit a VHS tape in most of my pants' pockets
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask There was cake involved. Of course I get notified if there is cake involved.
 
@SonictheMaskedWerehog either you have big pockets or small tape, the standard tape I know from 20 years ago won't fit in standard jeans pockets.
 
I don't wear jeans
 
So cargo pants?
Well that can indeed explain how it fits.
 
6:55 AM
Athletic pants
 
You run a lot?
 
Not that much; they're comfortable though
 
I have cargo pants, and carpenter pants, won't fit.
 
@Sonic something like those? asos.com/nike/…
The pocket does seem handy, never thought to buy such pants, always used pants without pockets while running. (in the distant past.... ;))
 
Yeah, kind of
 
6:59 AM
@Bart oh..... you have the CakeDetectAndNotify3000™ installed, of course! How could I not see it sooner..... :D
Historical moment: both @Bart and @Meta are in the room together.... :P
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask actually someone turns on a searchlight with a cake on it
 
Now we just need Norm back and all is back to its old self.
 
@@583091 ping
 
Rob
Most disgusting food in the world, fly cheese: youtu.be/M7jto1u_YqE
 
@MetaAndrewT. Doesn't work for you on this server
 
7:03 AM
@MetaAndrewT. u haz noo powerz hir!
@Rob surely there's something more disgusting, plus there are people who love it.
I mean, some people love to eat things that aren't even food.
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask not very many things...
rotten shark meat maybe?
 
What I mean, is that "disgusting" is relative and per-person, so statements related to this can't be 100% accurate. ;)
 
Rob
There's rotten fish, but is that really worse than maggots? Whale poo doesn't sound good either, but it's served with eggs (which I don't eat anyways, so no harm there).
 
Why go far with the poo?!
:D
Wait, let's serve some...
Here you go, bot gave a nice amount:
in Shadow's Den, 17 secs ago, by KennyBOT
~ 💩 💩 💩
:-D
 
Rob
Go far, or forgo?
 
7:08 AM
I think @rene's bot is the only active bot on SE with such commands. :P
@Rob far, when we all have it closeby.
nah not spam
 
Rob
ambergris is around $10,000 per pound
How much is Shadowgris?
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Nor a good question. It has been closed now.
 
7:25 AM
@Rob bag of coins.
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask don't blame me, I implemented what the customers asked for ...
 
Rob
Amber's is better.
 
@GarimanSingh might be, but if not spam or offensive, should be marked as false positive. No?
@Rob better in what way?
 
Rob
Y
 
@rene of course, and did it wonderfully. :D
@Rob Z
 
Rob
7:27 AM
That was an answer to the line prior to your next question. Amber's wouldn't have hair in it.
 
I also don't have hair in it.
Back to sanity...
@Journeyman @Tink there are over 140 questions on MSE with , maybe better consider removing the tag from older questions that aren't relevant anymore?
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask I'd rather leave it for the staff
 
Since that's now the official queue, better have it as small and focused as possible, with what we really want.
 
Rob
Yes, they should remove or delete, rather than the mods flicking them on and off.
 
> Questions with this tag from across the network will be automatically added to an internal tracking system.
 
Rob
7:33 AM
Close no-repro if it's that old.
 
So I'm pretty confident in saying that we shouldn't touch those tags, they're tracked internally.
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask even if I had, wouldn't work either, if you know what I mean...
 
@Tinkeringbell but you can add the tag to questions, so why not remove it where you see fit?
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Because I have a list of when to add them, but not one of when to remove them.
 
Rob
Like a donation bin. Deposit only, no withdrawals.
 
7:35 AM
@Tinkeringbell so there should be one.... going to write feature request
:)
 
The idea is also that we can add the tag, no one ever mentioned curating the list to remove those. If you want that, probably write up a post we can tag status-review XD
 
@Rob maybe at your place.... here not so much. They're totally two-way.
 
status-almost-reviewed
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask They were "two-way" but so many people got stuck inside or hung upsidedown that they padlocked them until they could redesign them.
 
7:42 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask The question was promoting a different unit for mass, so I had marked it as spam when reviewing. However, I am awaiting a moderator response.
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask you could bring it up on meta :D
 
@JourneymanGeek or down. ;)
@Rob people will always find ways to take money out of places.
 
Rob
It will be 141
 
-1
A: Submitting a question directly when there is no feedback

Gariman SinghFirst of all, the possibility of submitting a question without a review was a bug not a feature and the bug is now gone for good. There is no harm in having a review process check our questions. Spending just a few extra seconds for another click is nothing compared to the time the community will...

 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask it's unlikely, and not the intended purpose, that people put money in a bin:
Many have signs now saying not to use, closed due to COVID.
Now rags and literally garbage.pile up around the bin, no climbing in (when possible) necessary.
If the poor go to these places and ask for clothes they are provided with a fairly decent and washed set of clothes.
 
7:58 AM
@Rob ohh, it's for clothes.... thought you meant those small bins for money.
e.g. this one:
 
Rob
We have "give a penny, take a penny", but then the penny was abolished.
 
lol
Well here they're not meant to give, just take, but people take anyway from it.
 
Rob
^ That doesn't look like it's intended to be opened and money fished out
.
 
@Rob it's not... usually kids do it.
I personally didn't, but got a friend who did.
He didn't open it, just shook it upside down until the coin(s) fell through the slot.
 
Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Well, I guess they have that everywhere; it's called theft:
 
8:21 AM
8 messages moved to Chimney
 
Rob
8:58 AM
1 hour ago, by Rob
@ShadowWizardWearingMask They were "two-way" but so many people got stuck inside or hung upsidedown that they padlocked them until they could redesign them.
 
<cue shredder noises>
 
10:13 AM
We really need to do something against these Robo-Upvoters: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/350843/…
Recently I've seen even Spam upvoted :-(
 
Expose them. In a cage at the town square. Just like in the old days.
 
Tar and feathers at hand ...
 
@JohnDvorak didn't they just burn witches using big bonfires?
 
Capital punishment is no longer practiced these days, now that there's a possibility of judicial mishaps
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask they got ducked first
 
10:18 AM
getting discovered.
 
@DavidPostill ducked?
!!/coffee Gar
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask brews a cup of Affogato for @Gar
 
> In medieval times until the early 18th century, ducking was a way used to establish whether a suspect was a witch. The ducking stools were first used for this purpose but ducking was later inflicted without the chair.
 
If they survived it was the proof they're witches.
 
> In this instance the subject's right thumb was bound to her left big toe. A rope was tied around the waist of the accused and she was thrown into a river or deep pond. If she floated, it was deemed that she was in league with the devil, rejecting the baptismal water. If she sank, she "was cleared. And dead"
If they didn't they were not witches but dead anyway ...
 
10:22 AM
@DavidPostill I don't know the meaning of the word "ducked/ducking" itself, as you don't mean the usual meaning which is to dodge something.
Is it slang?
 
Cucking stools or ducking stools were chairs formerly used for punishment of disorderly women, scolds (people accused of being troublesome and angry and who habitually chastised, argued and quarrelled with their neighbours) and dishonest tradesmen in England, Scotland, and elsewhere. The cucking-stool was a form of wymen pine, or "women's punishment," as referred to in Langland's Piers Plowman (1378). They were both instruments of public humiliation and censure primarily for the offense of scolding or back biting and less often for sexual offences like bearing an illegitimate child or prostitution...
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Not really, but not common usage any more.
 
@DavidPostill true, first time I hear about that word with such a meaning. I did know that witches were also tortured a lot, just didn't know all those gory details. ;)
 
2. push or plunge (someone) under water, either playfully or as a punishment.
"Rufus grabbed him from behind to duck him under the surface"
 
@DavidPostill saw this on Google, but since it mentions water didn't pay much attention to it.
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Yeah, well that's what the ducking stool does.
 
10:25 AM
Anyway, duckface is much better to think about. :D
 
@SmokeDetector I am not sure what it means, but this message pinged me.
 
@GarimanSingh it means you got a free coffee from our loyal bot. Enjoy! :-)
!!/welcome Gari
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Welcome to Tavern on the Meta @Gari! I'm SmokeDetector, a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, and posts alerts to chat. You can find more about me on the Charcoal website.
 
@DavidPostill isn't that just waterboarding? I didn't know the practice was this old.
 
10:27 AM
hmm.... @ArtOfCode as one of its developers, what you think about adding another part to Smokey's welcome message about coffee and tea?
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Ah! How does it send messages? Do you give some sort of commands?
 
e.g. "a bot that detects spam and offensive posts on the network, posts alerts to chat, and serves hot beverages on request".
@GarimanSingh it can both post all by its own, triggered by spam posted across the network, and follow commands.
 
@JohnDvorak I guess so ...
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Ok. Now, I get it. So, earlier when you had written "why sd", was that command as well?
 
Again: What to do against those Robo-Upvoters? Ideas anyone?
@GarimanSingh Check here: charcoal-se.org/smokey/Commands
 
10:38 AM
do nothing... mods can't check, need CM, but is it that serious?
 
It's an increasing phenomenon as far I observed.
 
@GarimanSingh yes, it was "sd why", the "sd" in the beginning means a command directed to Smoke Detector's latest report, followed by the actual command.
@πάνταῥεῖ as long as it's a single user/vote it's not that bad.
If you'll notice more than one upvote on spam/off topic question it's a different story.
 
sdc why
 
@MetaAndrewT. No such command 'why'.
 
sdc is only for non-report commands...
 
10:52 AM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask No such command 'is'.
 
lol
i.e. sdc is just a synonym of !!/
 
!!/lick
 
@DavidPostill licks ice cream cone
 
!!/wut
 
@DavidPostill Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...
 
10:56 AM
sdc wut
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...
 
sd is a play bot :-)
 
 
1 hour later…
12:14 PM
!!/blame
 
@Spevacus It's ThiefMaster's fault.
 
12:29 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Don't forget, it blames people too
 
12:51 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask Yes, I saw its site. I have just one word: "ingenious".
 
"several years of hard work by a dozen people"
 
1:12 PM
@Mithical We should have something like:
sdc applause
 
*clap clap clap clap*
 
What did happen just now?
 
Someone signed into the Smokey account and edited the message
 
Smokey has momentary bouts of sentience.
 
Momentary?
 
1:22 PM
Relatively frequent*
 
!!/tea @Smoke
!!/coffee
 
@Spevacus brews a cup of Macchiato for @Spevacus
@Spevacus stirs and sips despondently at apple tea
 
Aww, now you're making me depressed.
 
@SmokeDetector Sad bots don't get under my skin, they're only just bots!
 
1:29 PM
...and then of course I've got this terrible pain in all the diodes down my left hand side...
 
That said, I spoke with a really impressive customer service one last weekend, that was very pleasant...
@SmokeDetector If I were you, I'd send an error report to your maker ;)
 
I mean I've asked for them to be replaced but no one ever listens.
 
@ArtOfCode Your bot is complaining, please do something about it :P
 
Call that job satisfaction, 'cause I don't.
 
So like...
What exactly is the metasmoke review queue
And why is it 22,000 posts long
 
1:33 PM
@Spevacus Because no one ever reviews?
 
Posts with less than two feedbacks that have been detected by Smokey go into the queue.
 
I see I see.
@Tinkeringbell ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
Also where do you see the number? I'm only seeing 50+
 
Just on metasmoke.erwaysoftware.com/review while logged into my MetaSmoke account.
 
Ah, I see, 22323 items.
 
1:35 PM
Clicking on it is probably foolish as I'm not a reviewer, but it takes me to a routing error message.
 
22296 for me, close enough
 
@SonictheMaskedWerehog yeah but that's used less than coffee and tea.
 
!!/tea !!/tea
 
@MetaAndrewT. brews a cup of jasmine tea for @!!/tea
 
1:41 PM
!!/tea Sha
 
@Spevacus brews a cup of passionfruit tea for @Sha
 
@SonictheMaskedWerehog It's Sonic the Masked Werehog's fault.
 
nice
 
reminded me of Chain Ping of Bots™ back then..
and also our lovely bjbot...
 
1:43 PM
I wait for BartBot.
Let's test his detector...
!!/cake
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask No such command 'cakw'.
@ShadowWizardWearingMask No such command 'cake'.
 
urgh
hmm... that answer is poor, but honest attempt to reply, not sure it deserves to be deleted. Its quality isn't much less than the other answer with negative score. /cc @Sonic
oh, which also has delete vote now.
 
@ShadowWizardWearingMask It was redundant to that answer.
 
hmm.... fair enough.
 
Is "Related links" still buggy? Missing on me..
 
1:53 PM
@ShadowWizardWearingMask I'm on the fence to whether the poster is made of meat
 
cries in just under 10k
 
@MetaAndrewT. same
 
> -1

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Internal linking is basically for the good customer experiece and we all know that google promote it so we have to do it.

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Yeah that... Hmm.
Doesn't really contribute a whole lot in that context.
 
concur with JMG, almost looks like spam seed...
 
2:00 PM
So, I'll give the user the benefit of the doubt
 
They are spared... For now. ;)
 
2:13 PM
Is ongoing review shown on the timeline?
 
This question is currently under reopen review here and doesn't appear to feature that in its timeline.
 
Thanks, looks like I can't cheat review stats... :/
 
@MetaAndrewT. Maybe mod only?
I can see the reopen review task in the one Spevacus linked.
 
@Tinkeringbell ah, seems like it
 
2:28 PM
now, the follow-up is, I don't think a userscript to show latest/pending reviews on the post taken from the timeline is a good idea :?
inb4 I can't write userscript...
 
@MetaAndrewT. no, not for mortals. Only once finished
 
Darn mods and their darn timelines.
 
@MetaAndrewT. I already did that for you: github.com/SO-Close-Vote-Reviewers/UserScripts/blob/master/…, kind of
corresponding meta post: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/306412/578411
 
@rene cool thing!
now, goes to learn writing a userscript and not getting afraid of web programming...
 
3:23 PM
Evening
 
Yes
 
sdc tea M.A.R.
 
@GarimanSingh brews a cup of green tea for @M.A.R.
 
Rob
" Now, if one cucking-stool was for each scold,
Some towns, I fear, would not their numbers hold." - Wikipedia articles, uncredited
@MetaAndrewT. @rene for your voting pleasure:
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Q: The list of related questions is shown empty

MartinAt the moment, any question that I check returns empty list of related questions. I see just a header called "Related" but no questions shown below that. I have checked this on multiples sites and also while not logged in. (At the moment I do not have the possibility to try it from a different co...

 
3:41 PM
@Rob thanks. Now I'm satisfied
 
Anyone knows how to "force" a gravatar change?
@GarimanSingh Hey there, how you doin
 
Rob
3:58 PM
^^^ It's gained a dozen upvotes, I'm fairly happy too. SE should want to fix it, since the click-thrus generate another AD in some cases; it's helpful for spotting dupes, etc.
 
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