The rest of the exchange exhibits problems that came and went at Stack Overflow as it grew. At scale, those problems are solved, so it is just going through phases at times for the rest of the exchange. However, what should be clear is that Stack Overflow itself faces unique challenges that you will not find anywhere else on the exchange.
Its gotten a bit better, but that's ore a general realisation that stuff got pretty bad
and here's the thing
We kinda mostly run things with very little attention from SE
And often when we go "it would be nice to have more X", its stuff shared between everyone, SO included
SO - I complain about the new SO landing page? I did the same thing for SU's design, in a very similar way. For most part the critique was in the interests of a lot of the things I felt fundamental to how SO and SE do things.
SU dosen't benefit, or MSE. It was just the right stand to make.
As well, noting that SO is just one site of many, and that the rest of the network is luckily unaffected, paints the rest of your post as disingenuous.
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Super User
As a long term user, and a moderator on Super User, I'm pretty frustrated with the approach taken, and as a lot of folks pointed out, we got stuck with what's basically a beta theme. I'm frustrated, and actually a little angry with how this turned out, and I actuall...
It kinda seems like the rest of the network is just using Stack Overflow as a work horse and only paying attention to everything else. It is truly disheartening.
@Aibobot It really begins to feel like that is the case if you are at SO.
@KevinB I don't mind that the site is used for profit. Like, at all. But when it starts to have a negative impact on the site, on the ability to use it, and on the community base; that is where it gets troubling.
for example, i was all for Docs, just wasn't very happy with what it ended up being. it was a tool for the community to use to better the community. Jobs i'm ok with, it's free for the community to use, and costs for businesses to advertise on, that's fine. It's helped a number of people.
Teams is... well, not for the community, it's a separate thing entirely designed to generate content that specifically isn't for the community. I have no problem with it existing, or ads being placed for it, but i'm just tired of seeing it everywhere i look.
It has already lost 25% of its questions asked per day. Answers per question are at an all time low. Abandonment is a REAL issue. And constant blunders only make these issues worse.
Of course everyone here already knows SO should be the main drive. Journey's beef is probably because other sites are excluded, not that SO is included.
@Aibobot I was reading a sentence, and just when it was starting to roll smoothly, you inserted a random "Well" or "erm" in the middle.
I also have the same impression at this very moment that things got shitty when the Docs drama started and stuff, but not sure if it's association fallacy or it really was because of those.
The first instances of SO U SUK I remember are from then
I'd rather things that are built for the community, that have both a free version for individuals and a paid for teams. but what "things" could be built that haven't already been done better elsewhere?
Docs had issues with organizational structure, and the stress points played out in different ways. It tried to represent a graph with a hierarchy and failed.
The purpose I invisioned for docs was it being designed around being used in place of existing canonicals. A place we could link commonly asked questions to that guided the user through what they were doing wrong and how to fix it.
using it for canonical though has a particular problem. would it feel better to the user if they were pointed at a guide, or if their post was just answered.
The answer will never live up to the canonical. But since it is hand catered, it provides a better first step.
I think that the outlook towards improving the preview or linking of duplicates allows for a merging of the two issues you raise. A canonical example, with a catered explanation of how it fits in.
i'm kinda torn. like, i feel like SO is going in a direction that will be more helpful for the community at large... but it's in a direction that i'd not like to be a part of. it's weird.
<tinfoil-hat>Anyone suppose that SO is merely a public demo for the purpose of establishing platform familiarity and brand-awareness for private sale of the platform, i.e.: enterprise? It might make sense how little attention the public Q&A product seems to get from our vantage point... enterprise users don't need the same things we're asking for because they don't operate at a comparable scale. So, development time is spent where it will be profitable...</tinfoil-hat>
I remember someone mentioning that enterprise was ridiculously lucrative. It may have been Shog. Though, I have no sense of how profitable it is against advertisement across the public sites. :P
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