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1:35 AM

Morning

Alex

2:19 AM

@Mithrandir Still wouldn't beat this:

in The Restaurant at the End of the Universe on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, Mar 10 at 15:00, by Mithrandir

Nooooooo I just accidentally clicked on a "user was removed" rep notification and got taken to my reputation tab. Now I've lost my building up of that number :'(

Journeyman Geek

5:29 AM

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No Distraction Wizard

6:10 AM

Morning(?)

Journeyman Geek

6:32 AM

afternoon

Shadow Wizard

No Drama Morning?

Is this the same Evan? That avatar was his trademark... checking

oh.. check ended

@ShadowWizard shhhh

ssh?

shhhhhhhhh

Not secure enough

No Distraction Wizard

6:36 AM

shhhhhh

Journeyman Geek

but hellier

Shadow Wizard

hiding secured channel for backup escape plan

Journeyman Geek

pfft

I HAVE TWO! MAWHAHAHAA....

oh wait, I just revealed my nefarious plan

Shadow Wizard

lol

@Alex classic!! LOL

@Mithrandir pffft n00b

And it was at -20k

And I misclicked too at some point actually. :(

forest

17k responses? O_o

Shadow Wizard

6:56 AM

Yup. Never clicked that.

To be honest, not sure what's in there. lol

Random trivia time! Who is this?

:D

No Distraction Wizard

It's not me :(

Shadow Wizard

It's not me :(

forest

It's not me :(

Shadow of the Shadow's Shadow

It's not me :(

Mithrandir

7:13 AM

It's not me :(

Journeyman Geek

Its not me :(

Shadow Wizard

8:16 AM

plz-delete IP ban meta.stackexchange.com/questions/328683/… @rene @Bart @Glorfindel

Journeyman Geek

8:26 AM

@ShadowWizard woof

Shadow Wizard

8:38 AM

@JourneymanGeek thanks!

heh Google isn't good with gender detection...

(tried to see user age so I might flag, didn't find something obvious though)

forest

Now that's some sketchy sleuthing lmao

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I think age is one of those things that unless the user explicitly states, we'd rather not know

the ava might not be him.

I mean, your ava is one of your kids ....

forest

I, too, use random children who I do not know for my profile picture.

Journeyman Geek

and @forest is not a monochrome anime girl

forest

lel

Journeyman Geek

8:45 AM

OR IS SHE?

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek even if e.g. that same person has social media account where they state their age?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard we don't dig or dox

not worth the effort

forest

Everyone knows doxing children is the best past-time. Wholesome and fun.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek sure, but if you "happen to see"? ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard sticks paws over ears and attempts to hum loudly

Shadow Wizard

8:46 AM

@forest that's what Evan does... or did?

forest

lmao really?

Journeyman Geek

plausible

I always assumed it was him when he was younger

forest

I did that kind of thing once, and only to troll someone (on another site).

Shadow Wizard

Anyway @Journeyman my goal is to keep underage person who act like one from using SE and likely get into trouble by their low quality posts.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard the low quality posts will cause trouble enough

We don't really need to be vigilantes

forest

8:47 AM

@ShadowWizard Judge them by their posts, not by the number of times the Earth has made a full orbit around the sun in the time since they were brought into this world.

The former is highly relevant. The latter is not.

Journeyman Geek

I knew a few teenagers who're mature

and a few adults who weren't.

Shadow Wizard

@forest oh, I do.

> So my friends and I recently decided to troll around. We went to a site and started to book all the time slots available (basically spamming the time slots)

forest

My daughter is 10. I'm 99% sure she could formulate better programming questions than half the adults on SO. If someone is interested in programming, don't stunt their growth!

Journeyman Geek

@forest or general maturity

one of the best mods I knew off SE was a 16 year old

one of the worst was a 30something

Shadow Wizard

Such person and his "friends" can easily use same methods to create sock rings and abuse SE.

forest

8:49 AM

I had a 16yo mod for a site I used to run. He was absolutely insane. Like legit wacko.

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard let us deal with that

we have the tools.

the CMs have bigger tools.

forest

@ShadowWizard Fun fact: So can adults!

Don't be ageist (oh god I hate that word). Don't stunt people's intellectual growth. It's cruel.

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek who got the biggest tools then? (Sorry... couldn't help it.... ;))

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard that's a good question

I don't know ;p

Shadow Wizard

Shog? Tim?

forest

8:51 AM

The sysadmins. The guys with root.

Shadow Wizard

Let's make a duel!

Journeyman Geek

I suspect shog might

Shadow Wizard

Shog use scripts, that's for sure.

Journeyman Geek

yup

he makes his own tools

forest

He's evolving! :o

Shadow Wizard

8:52 AM

and using olden tools written in the Age of Heros

Journeyman Geek

and I suspect a few (lots?) of CMs are capable of it

well many of the few at least

Shadow Wizard

Found it!

Sep 22 '17 at 22:38, by Shog9

yes. I got to use a tool I've never touched before and wasn't sure actually worked. Good times!

lol

user315433 was Telkitty? Or one of Norm's incarnations?

Mithrandir

@forest That's something you deal with at any age, though.

forest

That's true. I've known a lot of very... insane (both violently and just damn weird) people.

Mithrandir

(Note: I am biased.)

Journeyman Geek

9:05 AM

@forest the mod I try to be the opposite of was in his 30s, angry all the time, and dropped dead

forest

hah

I used to be a lot crazier and more angry than I am now. I'm glad I've straightened up.

Otherwise I would have gotten banned^Wsuspended here a long time ago.

Journeyman Geek

erm...

TECCCHHNNICAAALLLYYYY

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek That wasn't a long time ago though :P

forest

Well yeah but that was an accident :^)

Journeyman Geek

It isn't an accident if people warn you ._.

forest

9:08 AM

Oh I thought you meant that hotlink protection thing.

Journeyman Geek

oh

that was just carelessness

forest

I blame my browser cache for not clearing even when I press ctrl+shift+R.

But yes stupidity was absolutely a factor. :P

Totally unrelated: If you visit your own question, does that count as a view?

Tinkeringbell

@forest Yep

Sometimes

forest

Sometimes?

Tinkeringbell

@forest Hitting F5 doesn't always work.

forest

9:15 AM

Just wondering because sometimes I refresh a question to see if it got views. When it goes up by one, I can never tell if someone viewed it or if it was my own refresh.

Tinkeringbell

@forest Well... 50 percent chance it was you ;)

forest

What an inconsistent system.

Tinkeringbell

15

A: Does viewing your own question add to its view count?

Actually, it does, but we're extremely strict in the way we track viewcounts so it ends up not mattering a whole lot. (as a point of reference, if we say a question has 1,000 views it probably has at least 2x real world views, and potentially as many as 5x real world views) We do, however, supp...

forest

I saw a forum once where every GET requested counted as a view to the thread, regardless of the IP, and after hammering it for a few days, it went negative and the forum software crashed.

Tinkeringbell

@forest Meanie. I should write a userscript to boost the views of my questions :P

Journeyman Geek

9:18 AM

@Tinkeringbell FRAUD!

forest

As much as I like to complain about SE's software, at least it's not that bad.

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I mean, that's been possible since '10. Don't tell me no-one had that idea before! :P

Journeyman Geek

@forest I think your main frustration is that its closed source

forest

Nah my main frustration is that themes are being butchered.

Being closed source just makes me hate it even more.

Journeyman Geek

Well, other than Jin's gloriously beautiful but apparently hard to maintain skins...

they have been pretty plain Jane

forest

9:20 AM

"apparently"

I'll refrain from voicing my opinion on that given that you don't like me accusing people of stuff. :^)

(I do like that Arqade and WB still have nice themes though, even if they lost a lot)

Oh yeah also forced arbitration. That's another thing I like complaining about.

meta.stackexchange.com/q/12744/384528 / meta.stackexchange.com/q/12766/384528 Huh apparently your views to your own profile count for profile views. Now that's just strange.

Oh nvm, says [status-completed].

Shadow Wizard

10:22 AM

throwing bread on @Margarine so he won't feel neglected

No Distraction Wizard

@ShadowWizard Norm's

Shadow Wizard

10:42 AM

oh

Oh no so it means all his past names are nuked even in transcript.... D:

crying over spilled soup

Margarine

Well, I think I took one of his past names now.

Shadow Wizard

nah

Margarine

Or was it one of Andrew's? Dunno

Shadow Wizard

@Vote you were never a Margarine, right?

One was soup and the other was Meatballs

That was their best match, IMO

Margarine

Marshmallow.

Shadow Wizard

10:45 AM

hmm.... let me see....

YES!!

Aug 5 '16 at 16:53, by hichris123

Apr 9 at 3:15, by Marshmallow

That was a joke.

Margarine

Oh no rene. EVERYONE RUN

rene

@ShadowWizard I was the 1st delete voter there.

Shadow Wizard

Name is preserved in onebox forever!!! :P

rene

@Margarine Yes, run!

No Distraction Wizard

RUN!

Shadow Wizard

10:46 AM

CATCH!1!

No Distraction Wizard

or else, get RUNBA'ed!

Shadow Wizard

@rene couldn't know that.... :D

rene

I run as quick as my roots will carry me

Shadow Wizard

Flower has light roots

Margarine

Fickle.

Shadow Wizard

10:48 AM

kATCHI.

Non catchy title.

Watermelon scene is the best.

Margarine

3

Q: How can I see the post rendering without MathJax formatting?

While I'm studying Math, Physics or any other topics which uses a lot of formulas, I'm taking notes using Anki which supports MathJax formating. Since I'd like my notes to be properly formated, I want to copy the MathJax-code. As it currently stands, I have to try and figure out how it is formate...

No Distraction Wizard

Shoopi Doobi Doo? Where are you?

Margarine

Dang. If this was Binter Wash I would have gotten that Baron hat probably.

When I posted my answer, the question was sitting at -3.

Shadow Wizard

lol

@Margarine nah the hat should be awarded to @Catija who made a good edit. ;)

Margarine

@ShadowWizard Pfft. That was after my answer.

Shadow Wizard

11:01 AM

Without it, question would be at -8 or so now. :)

Margarine

11:26 AM

29

A: Four boys and four girls

Each boy was sitting next to a girl from the very beginning: ┌──> 8 adjacent seats ┌────┴────┐ │ ┌─┐ ┌─┐ │ ┌─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┐ │ │ │♂│ │♀│ │ ├──┐ └─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┘ │ ┌─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┐ │ │ │ │♂│ │♀│ │ ├──┤ └─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┘ ├──> each boy next to a girl, in pairs ┌─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┼─┐ │ │ │ │♂│ │♀│...

Wow that took some effort

No Distraction Wizard

┼─┼─┼
┼─┼─┼
┼─┼─┼

Shadow Wizard

12:44 PM

Tuesday is a magic day, or so it seems...

@ShadowWizard I'll get that fixed (will probably have to wait until Tuesday) — Yaakov Ellis 1 min ago

The Day Where All Things Are Fixed

No Distraction Wizard

Did you mean: Reset button?

Shadow Wizard

lol

Rob

2:30 PM

@ShadowWizard Check this out:

YASKAWA BUSHIDO PROJECT / industrial robot vs sword master

►

Shadow Wizard

Nice!

nicael

3:46 PM

what's going on

No Distraction Wizard

nothing

unless you want to also share the joy of losing rep :)

ItamarG3

4:27 PM

@ShadowWizard Ollo.

Marshmallow

4:57 PM

Well good late evening @Nic and @Ita. What brings you here?

ItamarG3

Procrastination, mainly...

user302202

It's SEDE Sunday, and the topic is, naturally, up/down votes. Comparing January-April of this year to the same stretch of 2018.

user302202

+--------------------+------------+------------+--------+
|       Site         | Jan-Apr 18 | Jan-Apr 19 | Change |
+--------------------+------------+------------+--------+
| musicfans          |        696 |       2342 | 236.5% |
| workplace          |      64426 |     150110 | 133.0% |
| 3dprinting         |       1664 |       3179 | 91.0%  |
| ham                |       1771 |       3322 | 87.6%  |
| quant              |       3965 |       7192 | 81.4%  |
| pm                 |       2211 |       3945 | 78.4%  |

user302202

An unexpected winner: Music Fans

Marshmallow

People are tired of politics and have gone back to listening to music.

No Distraction Wizard

5:05 PM

The MusicFans.SE is kind of understandable when a few (1?) users suddenly became very active, as can be seen from their meta

Marshmallow

Holy crap, hehe

user302202

Yeah, so far in 2019, that one user has more than 10x the votes of the runner-up: 1644 vs 152. musicfans.stackexchange.com/users?tab=Voters&filter=year

Marshmallow

@VoteDukakis They're the guy that keeps upvoting the answer in the site tour

user302202

5:19 PM

Bonus data point: most active voters all-time are: gnat 563117, PeterJ 242257, Gilles 155267.

Marshmallow

@VoteDukakis Oh I'm slacking. I'm gonna make up for it though

user302202

Argh, that's one of my former usernames. Granted, it may be difficult to find a name I haven't used yet.

user302202

TBH I don't remember at all why I had that one.

Marshmallow

@VoteDukakis Sorry, it started with "Mar" and wasn't as ridiculous as "Marmalade".

user302202

NP

user302202

5:30 PM

Jan 20 '15 at 17:37, by bjb568

Hmmh, tylenol tastes better when inside jumbo marshmallow.

Marshmallow

7 hours ago, by Margarine

Well, I think I took one of his past names now.

No Distraction Wizard

All your name are belong to us

But considering I don't remember that name... perhaps that's when I was ~~searching the purpose of my life~~ inactive on the whole SE...

user302202

The name was chosen on April 7, 2016.

user302202

OR site will launch either Tue or Wed

user302202

(Context: Monday is a U.S. holiday)

Rob

5:41 PM

Preferable to Marsupial?

John Dvorak

6:07 PM

@JohnDvorak Ah the joys of language, where one only has to be wrong so many times before it stops being wrong anymore — Freddie R 14 mins ago

Marshmallow

@JohnDvorak If enough people use "irregardless", it stops being "wrong". That's kinda the definition of descriptivism

BUT.

What the hell do you mean with "irregardless" anyway? TRIGGERED BIG TIME

John Dvorak

I mean "regardless"

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:36 PM

@ShadowWizard Things used to be better back when chat profiles weren't nuked on user deletion...though it makes it harder in case the user later rejoins the site with a new account

Marshmallow

8:10 PM

> Hi, my name is bla, this is my phone number.

user302202

> so call me maybe

user302202

Q&A could work without votes at all, just by amount of clicks. Sorry, but I have brain and you want to kill it. — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 27 mins ago

user302202

After this flood of comments, I kind of do.

user302202

Someone has put VERY much effort to tell the truths and you suckers try to close it down! YOU downvoters and banners put effort on destruction! Is it good feel for you? — Pauli Sudarshan Terho 17 hours ago

user302202

Repeat ad nauseam under various MetaSO posts.

Marshmallow

8:20 PM

First thread was . . . poetic.

Lemme read the second one.

JESUS CHRIST THAT QUESTION

@VoteDukakis This one was boring. Maybe I'd read the question though, sounded like an effortful rant.

At this rate they should either write a meta.SO post or go to Twitter and Reddit.

I like how the net result of the past 1.5 years has been that "I'll go to Twitter" has become a threat.

John Dvorak

The biggest sin of that question is we aren't allowed to downvote it twice

Marshmallow

@JohnDvorak at least the OP used "seems to vote" not "votes"

Shadow Wizard

10:27 PM

@nicael just nostalgic about the rep loss you caused in the good old days, ya know. :D

@ItamarG3 Oreo!

forest

11:02 PM

Which question?

user302202

> When analyzing the presence of violations in our dataset, our first observation was that just one of the 336,643 studied code snippets was free of violations (stackoverflow.com/q/51594048). However, a closer look at this particular code snippet revealed that the author who created it intentionally suppressed all warnings raised by ESLINT by commenting the code with the /*eslint-disable*/ instruction.

user302202

Research shows that perfect JavaScript code does not exist., at least on Stack Overflow

user302202

> We manually removed this comment and reran ESLINT on this code snippet. This new execution reported 96 violations. Therefore, the first finding of this work is that no single code snippets in our dataset was free of violations

forest

14

A: Please update the text in help for "User was Removed" reputation changes

So reading a lot of the confusion around this system, I want to clarify some things just so that they're all in one place, before continuing on: As far as the "special deletion" - I've no idea where that terminology actually came from. It's weird and unsettling, and makes it sound like we're wa...

> Note that we will not define the exact thresholds for how many votes will trigger review.

I wonder why. It's not like it'd be difficult to find out.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

111

A: Don't throw away all votes when a user is deleted

I'm not gonna call this completed; as you and everyone else reading this know, we do still throw away some votes for some user-deletions... and probably always will for the reasons you noted in your proposal. But we have a system in place to prevent the most disruptive forms of vote deletion, a...

> The exact values of those thresholds don't particularly matter; they're pretty low, but not so low that you could hit them easily while still hiding fraudulent activity.

forest

11:16 PM

ah

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

11:42 PM

@Glorfindel Would you mind adding mrozekma.com to your list of "known image hosts"? It seems like the user who owns that domain (and embedded images from it pre-HTTPS) doesn't like the "source: mrozekma.com" that your script adds, and consistently edits it out. Ex: meta.stackexchange.com/posts/59370/revisions

See the last 5 edits by this user: meta.stackexchange.com/users/145982/…

They're all to remove the source link your script is adding.

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