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12:00 AM

@Mr.YouKnowWhoIAm Just seemed funny at the time.

user495830

I am just spectating this conversation. I do not even know what this is about. Also, shouldn’t posts like that be marked off-topic (or something similar to that)?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Mr.YouKnowWhoIAm Okay, and yes, hence [cv-pls].

"close vote please"

user495830

How? I am still relatively new on SE. Do I have to be a mod to do so?

user495830

Never mind that.

Journeyman Geek

2:19 AM

@Mr.YouKnowWhoIAm you get enough rep to ;)

It's just a way to get eyes on a problem. It's an old way of doing things from before we got review queues

user495830

2:44 AM

@JourneymanGeek You mean the off-topic flags?

Journeyman Geek

3:04 AM

Oh folks asking for close and delete votes

user302202

3:15 AM

Hm. Is moderator retirement supposed to affect possibility of undeletion? is status-bydesign. Looks like Deletion votes from users who later become moderators shouldn't prevent community undeletion should be too, then?

user302202

I don't like this behavior... it's like releasing the prisoners when the judge who sentenced them retires.

user302202

Fresh instance, on math meta: Undeleting a deletion by an ex-moderator

user302202

But yeah, by-design. The system has practically no memory of "this user was a mod at the time" in any circumstances, like when it comes to displaying close votes.

No Distraction Wizard

3:51 AM

Can posts deleted by Community◆ be undeleted by regular users?

Shog9

yes

No Distraction Wizard

oh, okay, never mind then...

Shog9

@VoteDukakis ironically, we do track this for close votes - we just don't display it (and there's no residual behavior then anyway). We don't track it for delete votes, where it would be kinda handy.

user302202

@NoDistractionWizard By a pure coincidence, the undeletion was enabled after some absurdly named user Roomba'd a bunch of answered & closed questions on Math.SE

No Distraction Wizard

Great... now I can't propose to delegate mod's post deletion to Community when they step down... ;(

user302202

4:07 AM

@NoDistractionWizard Let's attribute them to Joel instead.

user302202

2

Soap Making

Proposed Q&A site for those interested in making soap

Currently in definition.

user302202

I don't think I know any such people, Fight Club nonwithstanding.

user302202

Their negativity only served to push me deeper into the realms of soap making.

Tweeted by Horse_ebooks on February 9, 2012 at 12:09 AM

Pandya

Possible duplicate of chat.stackoverflow.com/ != chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/?tab=site&host=stackoverflow.co‌m — Pandya 17 mins ago

user302202

> This also is what scares the hell out of me about Stack Overflow. It's critically important to developers, and it absolutely needs a solid business plan. I hope the "We should take this public/acquisition target" idea goes away ... -- George Stocker at 12:28 PM - 26 Apr 2019

user302202

4:15 AM

Looks pretty solid to me with all the B2B stuff developed lately.

user302202

Public SO may eventually become more of a free demo thing.

Journeyman Geek

5:20 AM

and I'm clearly really tired an missed all the context

@VoteDukakis in a way it already is

though I liken it to a F1 car - its basically a halo product that sells the other things while not being something people would drive to the grocery store...

speaking of slack... theverge.com/2019/4/26/18518022/…

> n an unusual move, the public offering won’t raise money for Slack; it’ll just allow existing shareholders to begin selling their stock.

rene

8:44 AM

→ 31 messages moved to Chimney

John Dvorak

12:51 PM

TIL that a cheeseburger isn't a hamburger, but it's still a sandwich.

Journeyman Geek

1:43 PM

→ 8 messages moved to Chimney

Olivia

2:21 PM

Is there a way to track down code fence formatting before it was supported? Those posts don't render it properly

rene

2:31 PM

you mean with a search? or a date?

Journeyman Geek

I think she means questions with borked code fences

rene

@NoDistractionWizard I stumbled on this question. Would you mind checking if there is anything peculiar in this questions timeline or the accepted answer that is not revealed in SEDE

@JourneymanGeek what is a borked code fench? Too many ``````` when it was not yet supported?

No Distraction Wizard

@rene okay, wait...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

2:47 PM

@rene Questions which attempted to use code fences before the Markdown renderer supported them (whose rendered HTML is cached from before that time)

No Distraction Wizard

@rene Hmm... nothing unusual though, the question was posted, then the first answer was posted and accepted. Nothing strange with the answer too...

rene

@NoDistractionWizard okay, thanks. Must be an SE code/script glitch then

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog so basically any post with a code fence that didn't get edited after the introduction of code fenches.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@rene Yes.

No Distraction Wizard

Well, except that 2011's answer entered Late Answer in 2015, nothing unusual...

Olivia

@rene probably SEDE

@rene that when it wasn't supported

It renders like a single backtick, all you really need to do is poke it

@JourneymanGeek yeap, those.

Someone mentioned several <pre> tags earlier, that query didn't go anywhere and I kinda forgot about it xd

Journeyman Geek

3:00 PM

@rene more or less but a fence not a fench

No Distraction Wizard

A French finch on a fence

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

3:39 PM

@Glorfindel Is there a chance that you can rewrite images on older posts that use HTML hacks to "resize" images from the time the official resizer wasn't working? The HTML hack breaks the layout for mobile users, so it would be great to have a script that, on all posts using HTML hacks for resize, re-uploads those images and replaces the hack with the official resizer.

rene

3:52 PM

@Olivia try this one but it is timeout critical so you can only do batches of roughly a year.

user271002

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog What do you consider "the official resizer" and what an "HTML hack"?

Olivia

@rene Wow, that's really impressive owo Thanks ^^

user271002

There is no official resizer, and using HTML is often better. HTML also works on mobile when used correctly.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

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Q: The Stack Imgur service is no longer resizing images correctly

I noticed at the start of August 2018 that new images like https://i.stack.imgur.com/MJrvX.png no longer resize when an m is placed before .png. Original image: https://i.stack.imgur.com/MJrvX.png Auto shrunk by page formated to about 609 pixels (desktop), but still full size. l suffix: https:...

@Loong I once employed the width hack, and my edit was rolled back by a user who complained of issues in their mobile browser.

user271002

We have tested various versions. Using HTML is clearly better than the Imgur function.

user271002

4:00 PM

user271002

But you should only use Width.

user271002

Not Width and Height together.

user271002

(see picture above)

No Distraction Wizard

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I wonder what the issue is, because it's both rendered as <img> in the end

user271002

@NoDistractionWizard Here you can see the difference:

user271002

4:02 PM

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A: Formatting Sandbox I: please test stuff here

Hazard pictograms a) Each image is resized to ‘small thumbnail’ (160 × 160) by appending the single character suffix ‘t’ to the end of the image id, and before the file extension. b) Each image is resized to 160 × 160 using HTML. (To better see the difference, use the zoo...

user271002

3

A: Formatting Sandbox II: please test stuff here

Image size test for small mobile devices 1) width and height 2) width (test results) Resolution Normal resolution (6.25 KB): 2 subpixels per pixel (10.74 KB): 2 or 3 subpixels per pixel (34.56 KB): (test results)

Olivia

Almost disappointed there weren't any chemistry puns in the sandbox title

No Distraction Wizard

4:35 PM

-1

Q: A "translation exchange" site?

Sometimes, you find a complex piece of text in a language you don't speak - or do speak, but not well enough for poetry, or metered prose, or an archaic / high-brow dialect etc - or perhaps the opposite - some non-standardized vernacular transliterated onto the web, or even text with many typos. ...

culture discussion languages translation

rene

Maybe useful to translate from C to C++ ..

No Distraction Wizard

Or Java to Java...nese

Glorfindel

5:21 PM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog The HTML hack breaks the layout for mobile users - do you have an example (or maybe you can create one in the Sandbox)? Right now the bot preserves whatever formatting was used by the OP; if no formatting is used, it might convert an HTML image to Markdown.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Glorfindel To be clear here, I'm asking for a new script, for images uploaded during the Imgur image resizer shutdown

I'll try and find my edit that was rolled back on this grounds

smileycreations15

How can I advertise a chatroom?

Glorfindel

@smileycreations15 link to it in your profile page?

smileycreations15

@Glorfindel Good idea

Glorfindel

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog OK. I still don't have a clue whether the bot can detect those images in the first place, but we'll see once you have an example :)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:27 PM

@Glorfindel Unrelated: out of curiosity, why did you review this "Leave Closed"?

Glorfindel

This discussion has been conducted many times, no need to rehash it all again. Moderators are elected/appointed to have binding powers, and there are plenty of workarounds (e.g. using a sockpuppet, asking in chat, VLQ flags on questions).

smileycreations15

Can someone help me? (looking for more answers (more than 1 answer))

No Distraction Wizard

Yes, you just got your answer.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Glorfindel Maybe you should comment on this question indicating why you believe the answers in your proposed target are still relevant, despite the actual requested features not being the same.

No Distraction Wizard

If it's about chatroom, then the only non-aggresive way is to use your profile. Other than that... it's a bit hard, unless it's something that can be useful to the whole community (which meta announcement might be okay)

Otherwise, it can be seen as spamming, might annoy many users, and might get you suspended

smileycreations15

6:14 PM

It is clearly spam.

user302202

SEDE Saturday: question deletions by month. SO peaked in March 2018, the only month with over 100K questions deleted.

user302202

(Ignoring pre-2014 history as I tend to do.)

user302202

Another notable example: same graph for Movies & TV.

user302202

I recently had an idea: what if there are other "podcasts" out there, besides those about Stack Exchange? Turns out, I was right - they exist!

user302202

But I am yet to find one that I wouldn't stop after ~30 seconds.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

6:28 PM

There is Techmoan's podcast, but that's only available to his Patreon supporters

user302202

I'm not interested in news, business, politics, sports, entertainment, or tech.

user302202

So far, the best bet seems to be language podcasts in a language I do not speak.

Margarine

@VoteDukakis IKR, best Xanax ever.

Catija

@VoteDukakis bunch of ID questions got removed.

No Distraction Wizard

6:44 PM

Podcasts in the Tavern

user302202

Also, the plight of SoftwareRecs continues after a reprieve in March. It's not even all of April there.

Magisch

7:35 PM

This is a hall monitor:

user302202

8:07 PM

0

Q: On moderation, moderators, quality, value, and alienation

A few days ago I came across a question from Dec 2017, asking: I am getting this error "Unknown host 'dl.google.com' You may need to adjust the proxy settings in Gradle" in android studio 3.0. I have checked my auto proxy option already. There were already several answers; one of the existi...

discussion moderation specific-answer moderators answer-quality

user302202

+1 for the title (the post itself is tl;dr)

user302202

Too much effort. There is no rhyme or reason to "broken toolchain" questions: the votes and answers they get cannot be predicted or controlled.

user302202

Obviously, the people who find their toolchain broken in 2019 probably have a different problem than that one person in 2017. The original post serves merely as a meeting point for an inevitably random collection of problems and ad-hoc solutions.

user302202

Possibly involving aliens, as I gather from the title.

user302202

9:06 PM

Jay Hanlon

@JayHanlon

EVP of Culture and Experience at https://t.co/WFPvbUT0HW. Amateur Dad. Internet Street Name: Jaydles

1.5k tweets, 1.1k followers, following 378 users

user302202

unsuccessfully tries to suggest an edit

user302202

Apparently, VP of Community also falls into "too important to just list on /work-here" category of jobs.

user302202

Also, thanks Twitter for the clear hyperlink t.co/WFPvbUT0HW

Journeyman Geek

10:49 PM

@VoteDukakis I actually hope that's an internal hire.

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