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12:13 AM

It's not completely clear what you mean by "reset the bounty as many times as necessary", but I suspect that you'll be able to do it once for one of those questions, unless you mean try again elsewhere. A minimum of 500 is required on those two, 2x the last amount.

Magisch

7:11 AM

morning

rene

morning

user58

7:38 AM

→ 16 messages moved to Chimney

rene

7:55 AM

I initially flagged this as rude: meta.stackexchange.com/q/339320/158100 but retracted that for now. Let's close it first

Magisch

eyeballs-plz seems off topic, 1 more delete to go - meta.stackexchange.com/questions/339295/…

rene

gone already

Hitodama

8:33 AM

@CptEric N'cha!

@Magisch in a world where an user tried to remove an emoji of a chicken from the title of a question about a chicken, and then got "angry" when the edit was reverted..... This is gonna work great.

Hitodama

9:05 AM

YAY! The portable refiner is finally actually portable!!!!!!!

Magisch

9:36 AM

both a good and a bad day today

Shadow The Princess Wizard

9:52 AM

@Magisch quantic day?

Magisch

@ShadowThePrincessWizard the christmas bonuses of the IT and processing departments were substantially higher this year (about double) from last year but were eliminated for apprentices and warehouse workers

wrong direction imo

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Magisch not nice... But you got the double?

Magisch

yea

we're currently discussing just pooling our bonuses and distributing them

Shadow The Princess Wizard

That would be noble.

How many in the "we"?

Magisch

all of us in processing and it

it's a real downer at the moment

doesn't look right now like the pooling idea will have everyone participating since tax implications are apparently complicated for people with kids. I don't understand why the owners would pull a move like that though, in the end it costs them more >_>

JAD

10:36 AM

hmm, seems like they understand the Christmas spirit

Journeyman Geek

the ~~ghost~~ shambling zombie of corporate greed?

Hitodama

Too soon for Christmas

this week is overseen by the Spirit of Black Friday Spendings

Raedwald

10:57 AM

On a related note, my friend the Church of England Vicar advises me that you can not be hit by Whamageddon until advent begins. I feel it's right to get expert clerical assistance in these matters.

Hitodama

@Raedwald they just started the original game remake, and if the first "episode" is really just Midgard, good luck waiting for Advent

CptEric

11:27 AM

gitlab just imploded.

status.gitlab.com

Hitodama

@CptEric they should check if any of the UPS is plugged back into itself....

Shadow The Princess Wizard

11:55 AM

> firewall misconfiguration

ouch

"Let's close all the ports, see who shouts first"

fire all the firewall people

:P

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek they overall spent more on christmas bonuses this year then last year, as it is a % of your salary

corporate classism?

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Magisch oh, so it's a 13th salary?

Magisch

not exactly

a % of the salary, for some more then one, for some less

Shadow The Princess Wizard

That one is common in hitech companies, I think, and not everyone get it in the same company, just those who are "worthy".

@Magisch based on what?

Magisch

12:11 PM

@ShadowThePrincessWizard don't know. I always assumed it was x1.5 salary

guess not

Shadow The Princess Wizard

This gives me wild idea: "Stack Exchange Staff Evaluation" on MSE, where the users will evaluate/rate each employee, and highest ranking employees will get bonuses. :D

rene

Sounds like a fair process

Shadow The Princess Wizard

Shog will get a fat bonus for sure.

Speaking of Shog.... where is he??

@Shog isn't even pingable... cries

Bought 150 capsules of Espresso. /cc @Rob (sorry Robert!)

> 3 x 14 strong espresso capsules

2 x 100% Espresso Capsules Indonesia

3 x 100% Guatemala Espresso Capsules

2 x 10 Espresso Capsules

1 x Espresso Capsules 09

1 x 100% Columbia Espresso Capsules

1 x Espresso Capsules 07

1 x 100% Brazil Espresso Capsules

1 x Hazelnut espresso capsules

djsmiley2k - CoW

12:30 PM

@Magisch I work for a tech company

never got a bonus here.

>_<

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@djsmiley2k-CoW :(

djsmiley2k - CoW

12:43 PM

Meh?

I get a good wage. It's like.... if I was a waiter, and i got a good wage, I wouldn't worry about people leaving tips (though this is technically different).

Hitodama

> mwhahahaha you all assumed we would remove the meta site, but we will remove the chat instead

Magisch

@djsmiley2k-CoW it's supposed to be for buying christmas presents

as if I would spend north of 3 grand on christmas presents. My family doesn't even celebrate christmas or give each other presents

@ShadowThePrincessWizard are you attempting suicide by coffee?

motosubatsu

@Magisch I assumed Shadow was attempting to recreate this

rene

@ShadowThePrincessWizard none of those numbers add up to 150 ...

Journeyman Geek

1:10 PM

i assume each is a 10 pack

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Hitodama Tavern without Shog is not the same as a Tavern with Shog.... :(

Magisch

shog being absent is sad

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Magisch well my average consumption is 5 capsules per week. So, no. ;)

CptEric

if we had capsules instead of a coffee machine the company would be broke soon

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@rene it adds to 15, those are the packages, 10 capsules in each.

@Magisch it means things are truly bad, yeah.

CptEric

1:14 PM

we run on bean 1.5kg bags

Magisch

@ShadowThePrincessWizard What's a capsule in that frame?

Also, is the hazelnut coffee good and how much sugar is in it?

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@motosubatsu lol

@JourneymanGeek smart! :D

Magisch

I toyed with the idea that flavored capsules could make coffee palatable for me

CptEric

@Magisch 1) it's sweet. 2) yes.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@CptEric of course, lol.. though I gather prices for a company would be very low, or they can charge the employees

CptEric

1:16 PM

unless they changed recipes most hazelnut coffees are coffee-flavoured sugar

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@CptEric someone said yesterday they had a machine at home, was it you? Still not familiar with all the new faces. ;)

CptEric

mine's at work. at home i have a spanish kettle

-> sgfm.elcorteingles.es/SGFM/dctm/MEDIA03/201803/20/…

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch eh, if you don't like coffee you don't like coffee

Shadow The Princess Wizard

Journeyman Geek

I do wonder how you would react to proper iced milo. They have a bottled version that's almost as good as my platonic ideal version of it

Shadow The Princess Wizard

1:21 PM

Capsule and package ^^

CptEric

googled iced milo

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Magisch no idea! There's no sugar (I think?) it's just espresso inside the capsule. I just love to try new things. :)

CptEric

by the malt i guess it's toasty ish?

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Magisch and?

@CptEric oh, you tried? Which brand?

Magisch

@ShadowThePrincessWizard the ones that I found had too many calories

CptEric

1:23 PM

Nestlé one and one from Lavazza

Magisch

I'm a bit neurotic about calorie consumption

CptEric

both were extremely sweet

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@JourneymanGeek wrong. My wife likes instant coffee but to this day doesn't like black or espresso coffee.

(I like them all)

CptEric

instant coffee in milk or in water?

Mgetz

@ShadowThePrincessWizard there are places in the world where Nescafe packets are de-facto legal tender

Shadow The Princess Wizard

1:25 PM

@Magisch but even if there is sugar, it won't reach the actual cup, the coffee machine runs hot water through the capsule, and it gets the taste of the coffee inside. No?

@CptEric both... instant coffee powder plus sugar, then boiling water, then milk.

CptEric

why are calories trustworthy? because a lot of people count on them

i'll let myself out

Shadow The Princess Wizard

rofl

@Mgetz what do you mean?

user58

My opinion on calories: "I need more food"

Mgetz

@ShadowThePrincessWizard There are parts of the world where NesCafe packets trade so reliably that they can and are used as means of barter

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@user58 Wait until you're 40, then the calories will start to be much more visible. ;)

I used to be like you, but... not anymore. :/

(i.e. no matter how much and what I eat I didn't get fat)

CptEric

1:30 PM

lucky you.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

Luck is over. :(

@Mgetz what?? lol... never heard of that. Where for example?

Anyway those aren't NesCafe, they're of local brand.

user58

@ShadowThePrincessWizard I literally have fewer fat cells than the average person because of being born prematurely. And I have a really fast metabolism. And I'm an athlete. My parents complain I eat them out of house and home.

Magisch

@user58 I want to trade with you

I have to count them, I put on extremely quick when I go above 1800 or so in a day

CptEric

i'd steal your metabolism

Mgetz

@ShadowThePrincessWizard parts of africa IIRC

Shadow The Princess Wizard

1:32 PM

@user58 interesting, I was also born prematurely. And had fast metabolism. And that's about it. lol

CptEric

luckily i got into a sport that values strength and perserverance over body shape

and beer

Hitodama

@CptEric Sumo :P?

CptEric

Rugby :D

Shadow The Princess Wizard

lol

Car lifting might also work.

CptEric

been there, done that.

it's surprisingly easy to lift any vehicle with just 4 players and enough drinks.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

1:37 PM

Are you a Flanker? @Cpt

CptEric

good guess

usually 6/blindside.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

hmm

Do you know John-James Lüdcke? @Cpt ;)

CptEric

yes

Shadow The Princess Wizard

So I found your team... lol

CptEric

how do you know him?

Shadow The Princess Wizard

1:38 PM

Secret spying tools

:D

j/k

Eric got his real name on his profile. :)

CptEric

i do

Shadow The Princess Wizard

And Google is, well, a search engine. ;)

Hitodama

@CptEric just so do you know.... Shadow basically works like those old "guess what I am thinking in 20 questions" games

CptEric

fastest googler in the west

Shadow The Princess Wizard

lol

CptEric

1:41 PM

i am fine with people stalking on me, at this point probably even my roomba knows my darkest secrets anyway :D

Shadow The Princess Wizard

Anyway that John-James looks likes someone who can lift a car all by himself. :D

CptEric

Ando is stronger though

Shadow The Princess Wizard

You don't have a picture there, sadly. @Cpt :(

CptEric

bigger than john but with the strength, speed and agility of a since--small-kid judoka.

seem him get trough the other team's defence is like watching the rohirrim at helm's deep.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Cpt while we're at it, you have a link to a deleted Twitter account in your SE profile.

CptEric

1:46 PM

it's not deleted

Shadow The Princess Wizard

It is

Oh, on SO you got it right. But on other sites it's probably your old account?

CptEric

i have no clue

Shadow The Princess Wizard

(e.g. on MSE)

CptEric

pressed update on all sites

just incase

djsmiley2k - CoW

@Magisch Is it?!

I budget for Christmas presents...

Magisch

1:51 PM

yea, it's called a christmas bonus, and we get it at the end of november

djsmiley2k - CoW

Making it Merit based is even weirder then, why do the people who work well, need the ability to buy more presents? If anything, other people should be buying THEM more.

Ok that's..... not what I expected (not sure if it's the norm). I've heard of people getting a christmas bonus, just before christmas. (as in days before).

And I always thought of it, as a 'thank you' from the company.

Sameway I see my yearly payrise that way (and I'm told my payrise is scaled to how well I'm doing).

'Back in the day' you used to get a Turkey, I believe...

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@CptEric didn't work.... think it only save changed fields. :(

Rob

@ShadowThePrincessWizard We are all "Rob". Also, calling them capsules makes them sound like they're suppositories; fortunately the photo dispells that belief.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@djsmiley2k-CoW living Turkey? That makes lots of noise and mess. ;)

CptEric

i'll let people complain at me then

Shadow The Princess Wizard

1:56 PM

@Rob suppo what? lol

So how you call those? :)

CptEric

they are capsules

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@CptEric so consider yourself officially complained at. :D

CptEric

grumpy noises

Shadow The Princess Wizard

lol

Cerbrus

@Cerbrus stfu stfu boy — Pavel Rakowski 15 mins ago

In reply to a comment I posted in February...

Someone doesn't do notifications xD

Shadow The Princess Wizard

1:59 PM

@Cerbrus kaboom

Cerbrus

Yay

Shadow The Princess Wizard

also against CoC to assume you're a "boy", no?

Cerbrus

Meh

Idgaf, I'd be opposed to users getting in trouble for misgendering me

CptEric

> insurance company: "you owe us 20€ for (flat in spain i left 2 years ago) 2019 fees".
me: "i didn't live there in 2019. i told you by mail early 2018.".
insurance company: "Doesn't matter. you owe us 20€".
me : "is it correct to insure a flat where other people are living?"
insurance company: "wait, you are not living there? send us our address so we can make you a new insurance"
me: "berlin, Germany."
insurance company: "Oh. Consider your home insurance void then, sorry."

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Cerbrus well to be honest, until you provide a way to refer to you, it's fine to use anything. :)

I was more kidding.

Cerbrus

2:01 PM

@ShadowThePrincessWizard That's exactly what I'm saying

Shadow The Princess Wizard

:)

Cerbrus

Well, not exactly

Shadow The Princess Wizard

Wait, we agree! Hooray!

Cerbrus

Oh shoot, better find something we disagree on

Magisch

unsweetened coffee without milk is revolting to me

Cerbrus

2:02 PM

Liquorice <3

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@CptEric LOL

@Magisch agree

CptEric

i know i went a long length of silly emails to not pay 20€, but... worth the laughs.

Cerbrus

What is this madness?! You can't just agree with everyone?!

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Cerbrus one should go to sleep with socks when it's cold. Agree or disagree?

Cerbrus

Nooo, no socks in bed

Raedwald

2:04 PM

@ShadowThePrincessWizard "Prefer gender-neutral language when uncertain"

Shadow The Princess Wizard

Yay!

See? We found.

Cerbrus

Pfew, that was a close one

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Raedwald "prefer" is not "must use"

Magisch

I sleep fully clothed

Cerbrus

@Raedwald Yea, let's not turn that user calling me "boy" into a gender debate

Shadow The Princess Wizard

2:05 PM

Too late

Cerbrus

That's so 2019Q3

Shadow The Princess Wizard

runs away

Raedwald

Sure, if that poster had said "you", it would have been fine. ;-)

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Magisch hopefully not jeans??

I also have pijama

@Raedwald "shut up you" doesn't make much sense

;)

Cerbrus

@ShadowThePrincessWizard That's the joke

Shadow The Princess Wizard

2:08 PM

lol!! twitter.com/jzy/status/1200052131568455681 this person worked for SE for years, as a designer. :D

People used to bribe him with bacon.

Magisch

@ShadowThePrincessWizard no, pajamas

Raedwald

Provide an algorithm for cutting a pie/pizza and choosing the slices that maximises fairness.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

@Magisch good. :)

Good old times...

Aug 5 '10 at 18:52, by balpha

say hello to Jin everyone -- he's responsible for the looks of all of this

Raedwald

I'm still bitter that my mother insisted on "one cuts, the other chooses" with my brother, because it was always me that did the cutting.

Shadow The Princess Wizard

resisting temptation to ping @balpha by replying to the above ;)

@Raedwald lol.. poor you. :D

Hitodama

2:22 PM

@Raedwald I kinda remember a similar logical problem with that solution.

Rob

@ShadowThePrincessWizard It would seem that those capsules are available in a larger size:

djsmiley2k - CoW

@Raedwald you cut the slice the next person will take

Raedwald

@djsmiley2k-CoW Fails for the case of someone who wants to force the next person to have a small slice, when there are 3+ people.

Journeyman Geek

2:42 PM

Design a robot that cuts slices of pie to sub millimetric accuracy taking into account proportions of crust and filling, using a neural network, AI and blockchain?

Magisch

@Raedwald the pizza is cut entirely. Slices are given numbers and allocated at random using a cryptographically safe PRNG

unpredictable and ungameable unfairness is in effect fairness

rene

I just declined an offer to be interviewed on camera for a re-make of a dutch TV series called Ontdek je plekje. It doesn't need to become much more crazy.

djsmiley2k - CoW

pizza is given to first people to get to the kitchen and cook it.

Raedwald

Place the pie in a blender and pour out equal volumes.

djsmiley2k - CoW

oh dear your slow? you're also now hungry.

Get Fast. Get Pizza.

Journeyman Geek

2:46 PM

@djsmiley2k-CoW I think in the case of pizza...

I'd go personal pizzas

everyone has different tastes, and I don't want to share ;p

actually when I move out, I need to work out a good, afforable option for that.

Raedwald

@JourneymanGeek My partner is vegetarian. I'm not. Pizza sharing problem solved!

Journeyman Geek

@Raedwald I believe pizza needs to be nothig but tomato and cheese. And lots of cheese

my mom believes in going light on the cheese.

I like mine on the verge of being burnt too

(also, I have a pizza steel)

user58

lots of cheese and mushrooms

Journeyman Geek

oh

depends on the mushrooms

but still. If it isn't covered in cheese...

JAD

cheese, mozarella and bacon/chorizo/salami :)

and tomato sauce of course

Journeyman Geek

2:56 PM

"If the question is "is there enough cheese, the answer is usually no"

also, preheating an oven is a concept my folks have trouble with

also, the pizza steel ... arguement

My mom was convinced it would damage the oven

until one day I got fed up and told her I'd buy her a new one if this one broke

Raedwald

Wow. Almost every recipe that needs an oven says to preheat the oven.

Magisch

cause the recipe maker can't predict how long your oven takes or how evenly it heats up

I'm not particularly fond of pizza to start

JAD

I'm not a fan of storebought pizza, that's for sure

self-made or from a restaurant though

rene

3:13 PM

From a restaurant are also self-made

There are no pizza trees

Hitodama

I am starting to think that SharePoint.SE should be shut down and the content merged back into SO....

JAD

@rene the self pointer points to a different person though

rene

self->self ?

Hitodama

3:31 PM

@rene well, you may think that is obvious, but I want to remind you that long ago a certain country fell for a "Spaghetti tree" April fool.

BBC: Spaghetti-Harvest in Ticino

►

Raedwald

(A classic)

CptEric

3:44 PM

isn't there one of those for the internet?

Hitodama

@CptEric Web sites growing on trees?

CptEric

i remember once scrolling trough facebook and watching a 1970-ish looking ( but obviously fake) documentary of a internet factory. one of the lines was something like
"here is where the internet is mixed, packed and sent to australia for refinement..."