it's also the reason I haven't been getting involved in the discussion here much

I'm here moderating the discussion instead

If you have an issue with that, feel free to use the contact us link at the bottom of every site page, or to find a place where you feel you can speak more feely

@JourneymanGeek I only asked, were these rules written previously to anywhere. If I interpret your answers well, they were not.

correct, they were not

because most of them are common sense

@peterh in good times they do not matter

and the rest are rules or guidelines that are in place while this chaos is going on

@peterh also these are hard times for everyone and every single RO is going above and beyond. So, please have a little faith in them

You don't have to be good at guessing rules of adequate behaviour, but then you have to diligently listen to those who are

Admittedly the former is an interpersonal skill

@AndrasDeak It only means, this room is quite far away what we could call a place enough worthy for any discussion.

we'd be sorry to see you go

@peterh We can discuss

We have an RO room for the tavern. Before this exploded, it's always been pretty quiet. Since this happened, it's been busy with people coordinating responses and making sure someone's around to cover this room. Everyone in there is a volunteer. They're not even all moderators. It's just people attempting to keep the peace and ensure the discussion here respects everybody.

@AndrasDeak I would translate it from English to English: "There are no rules. Except: if we don't like what you write, we will ban you."

but we do need to have a civil discussion

where people are protected

@peterh well, yes.

We don't really do rules lawyering here. Just try to abide the spirit of the rules and err on the side of caution. Right now there's a lot of turmoil (a lot!) and tempers run hot. We need this room to be free of line crossing attacks at all times

@peterh to be honest - you're here by your choice. If you don't think you can say what you wish to say here - feel free to say it somewhere else.

@peterh actually - we provide plenty of warning, and explain why

This is not and will not be the equivalent of a youtube comment section or a reddit thread. We need to be better then that

@peterh What about the other ROs? What about Journeyman? What about me? Are all of us too young?

shrug

@ArtOfCode No, you are just evil. :-)

@peterh Not too young? Excellent. By the way, Mag is older than I am.

;)

@peterh heads-up: that's very rude and personal

@AndrasDeak Then, I think, here is the time to ban me from this room, isn't?

Exactly the kind of thing that gets you booted

@peterh it's not up to me

We're not aching to ban everyone. If you dwell here a lot you'll notice we're a lot more lenient then other chat rooms on SE. We just want civil discourse

@AndrasDeak Ok, but you know, my personality unavoidably will lead to boot me from this room. Even if I work hardly to remain here, earlier or later you will find a reason to boot me. It is only matter of time, and I know it so well as you.

allow me to refer you back...

@peterh does that mean you're leaving?

Okay

@AndrasDeak What also means... that there is no reason for me to be cooperative with you.

@AndrasDeak I hope, someone with such a strong math vein, understands well my rationality.

Math vein, Nice one

I have Shadow Vein

There is every opportunity to have a constructive discussion about current events in here without running afoul of the rules. There have been thousands of perfectly OK messages of people who are all kinds of annoyed or hurt in here.

Yup

Like I said, we're not aching to ban anyone. We expect an effort and some consideration, as is at least implicitly expected in any social conversation. We also have to abide the house rules of SE, as this chat is on their server, and those include the code of conduct, which forbids personal attacks for one.

any kind of reasonable discourse forbids personal attacks

@Shadow Nurses always have a devil of a time finding my Math vein when I go for shots.

I just remembered I have to urgently do something else

@Rubiksmoose so they look in the wrong place! :P

@Rubiksmoose that must be a rough bar where they keep nurses around

@Rubiksmoose I've forgotten where the math vein is, do remind me?

@AndrasDeak Hahaha. Well its a moose bar. We're a tough crowd.

@ArtOfCode It's right around the physics vein if I recall correctly.

@Rubiksmoose sounds scary :D

Uhm

@peterh you need to calm down please

@Rubiksmoose ah, of course, how could I forget? They're both offshoots of the logical vein, I seem to remember.

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@AndrasDeak If you think it's scary you clearly haven't had enough shots yet! Another round for you my good fellow.

into my physics vein please, make it spherical and in a vacuum

the vein or the shot

not sure which is worse

@AndrasDeak Well obviously. And I did say a round of shots so naturally they are spherical.

;)

good foresight

Assuming a spherical shot....

got a backsight to go with that?

that's my geographical vein talking, of course

@ArtOfCode I think there was an xkcd "what if?" (about glasses half empty) that investigated vacuum-filled glasses...

Why has SmokeDetector joined the Trashcan room?

because it likes it there

spam and trash, natural buddies

to Smokey the trash can is a step up

Cause we need to keep an eye out for trash fires

Because it's been too long... is @410 Normal?

@AndrasDeak I can't remember who did it anymore, but someone (xkcd? Mythbusters?) did an awesome explanation of why smacking the top of a half-full beer bottle breaks the bottom off

tl;dr: vacuum

in a sense, spam is also trash

I'm not sure how normal they are, but yes.

@hichris123 no, 410 is Gone

I suppose the answer would depend on whether you think that's normal then...

@ArtOfCode sounds like mythbusters

might also have been the slow mo guys

@hichris123 long time no see :)

I remember something about that and I follow xkcd and MB but not slow mo guys

@Magisch Yeah, it apparently takes a lot to get me back into chat. :)

or perhaps it was just experimental physics lectures...

could also have been that

it's cool, though

my sister didn't believe that worked until I did it

There's also a variant with a glass jar...someone I know had the jar rupture in his hand so he's got a nice scar now :D

@PaulWhite k

Sorry about that

not that I know of

they may have meant "we're sorry to see you go" meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/389906/…

@PaulWhite far as I know, no.