hehe, Amy makes edits Ano-style... that was funny, in a way, to see. :D

@Somewhat it's just decoration! :P

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Stop calling me Ano.

I didn't call you Ano, just mentioned that name. And same way I can mention past names like Jeff, Oded, and any other, sorry but you can't tell me what to talk about.

If you don't want to ever see that name again, ignore me, and anyone else who might be using it.

(unless a message with it get starred, then it's a problem.)

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Mornin'! Not much; still half asleep and haven't had breakfast yet

Here, that's a start.

huh? Well, if Smokey will behave...

except, not starting...

oh no....

lag!

That's @Undo server? ^^^

Huh? Why error when joining? :/

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Just ping an RO to clear the stars

I won't, but yes, you can, I guess.

It's your full right to not want to be called something, I get it, but you can't demand people to not even mention the name, or talk about past events related to that name.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog you are right. Custom render. Yet, I'm not sure it is a custom render of a custom model.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog never said the opposite. I just said it looked "meh" :P

@JourneymanGeek @rene Please move this message and the above Smokey messages to Chimney.

I don't see a reason to move that specific message. I'll clean smokey later

@rene I didn't press the "delete" button in time

JG moves such messages to Chimney on request

→ 54 messages moved to Chimney

sigh such drama

No need for a move. Flagged for a mod to delete instead.

@Derpy that seems doge

Gah! Where did she come from?

Dude, Its clearly your sock

Ok

@JourneymanGeek Putting on a performance

There, she's gone

This isn't an RP chat ._.

@JourneymanGeek Thanks for the "for science" kick

@JourneymanGeek You also realize you went along with the (now concluded) story, right?

Oh right

@Somewhat hello

@Somewhat hi!

It is really as much your fault as the sock...

kicked

what's with all the kicking here?

@balpha ._.

@balpha wee bit of excessive drama, and a tiny bit of negative reinforcement.

We've had a few issues with sonic, and really are trying our best :(

anyway, darn, the dangerous 4pm... soo sleeeeepyyyyy......

hah. Had a snack?

@JourneymanGeek Why are you allowed to use alternative accounts in chat when I'm not?

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I'm not RPing

@JourneymanGeek "now concluded"

I'm not causing drama.

Is saying "hello" RPing?

I'm basically mostly going "oh snap, wrong keyboard"

Was the second kick towards Amy, and the first kick towards me, really needed? (That latter one was overturned by balpha.)

Yes

I didn't overturn anything

Well the second kick wasn't me

I don't even know what's going on

Then why was I allowed to post even before the minute expired? The page loaded normally after I refreshed...

sigh I can kick you again if this really bothers you

@balpha we now have to deal with two accounts, operated by one user, that doesn't seem to be able to understand that they are annoying. @JourneymanGeek talked more then enough to drive the message home that we are not fond of the behavior. Not much changes though.

and ask that you be chat suspended.

She's gone.

@rene Evidence to the contrary.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog yes, it was.

That second kick would have been prevented if Amy hadn't said "hello".

If folks think aibo is an issue, I can log out - I just use it to monitor things from my work laptop when I'm waiting to hand over to the next shift

And I don't have that much patience as Journeyman. A lot less then 6 to 8 weeks

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog let me put it this way. We've got 3 ROs needing to deal with mostly you, and we'd rather go back to dealing with cleaning up after smokey

this is not... working

This tension.

is mg + ma

@JourneymanGeek It's been more than a minute after the kick expired. Has Amy returned? No.

Ya, tbh, sonic, if this was main chat, there would be a very short discussion and an appropriate suspension for both accounts.

it's weird that sometimes "silence is golden"?

It seems strange that you're continuing to ask me to remove Amy even after I've already removed her.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog It isn't about AMy

Its about the longer pattern of behaviour

It seems strange that you're continuing to refer to that even though we've already discussed it at length.

Discussion does no good if there's no change.

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Yes, the fact that we constantly have to watch you, correct you, guide you, reprimand you without much visible sign it helps at all is a waste of my time. And stop deleting messages.

^^^ this

@rene Why stop deleting messages, if I may ask? (As an RO, you should be able to see deleted messages.)

Cause it is troublesome

.... I think I will return after this skit is ended ... Have fun fighting over it.

@Derpy sorry to hear that. started baking popcorn

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog so.. Shog quit cause this place was no longer fun.

And well, at this point ...

And if someone really feels that I'm out of line for saying this - I kinda feel the same way, cause of needing to deal with this all the time

Let me see...your original request was for me to stop RPing, so I stopped, and made it clear that I stopped by using the words "now concluded". But my alternative account was kicked again, for saying "hello".

and I'm someone who loves being an RO - even if it was accident by last time, and take pride in being patient, and in helping folks

and...

I'm bloody tired

Could you please take a break? Maybe a week or two?

Cause I can't suspend you, and I really feel that the room could use it.

I've violated my own break for the last couple of days. No messages unless I'm pinged or making a moderation request.

--> Sonic's Den

Don't even do that. You'll get sucked in

Just stay out the chatroom a week please

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog because it loads the evidence on you that you're posting here only to disrupt. This is not a game between you and the RO's/Staff, this is a public chat room for everybody to join and discuss SE stuff. By you posting and deleting messages that can't be seen by all of the participants here makes you a seem like a jerk. Like it or not. You can try to reason that away but I guarantee you none will take it.

@rene I only self-delete if I realize immediately after posting that the tone was bad, or that it implied the wrong thing.

Please stop arguing that what you do is okay. It is not.

Hhh... this is almost reaching to the point that "you're not welcomed on this room anymore until you show that you have changed" on many meta drama...

We have been patience enough? I don't know...

@Somewhat Overly patient. Three days (or more?) of discussing someone's chat behavior is more than enough.

So, back to those slippers and socks? :P

I don't wear slippers on socks :S

@Somewhat I do, sometimes. When I take out the garbage for example and I don't feel like putting on shoes :P

0_0

@Tinkeringbell why wear socks at all?

Your feet get sweaty in the slipper otherwise :p

nuuu

Fresh air between your toes man

Anti-slip slipper?

Are talking slippers or sandals?

Ain't no fresh air in slippers!

@JourneymanGeek Because mom and dad put in a wooden floor. My feet get cold inside.

Thanks for being patient with me. As someone who's mildly autistic, I can get behavior wrong from time to time, and depend on external feedback.

I've already put 'carpet' on the wish list for my own apartment :D

0_0

@Tinkeringbell I guess there's that

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I hate having cold feet. It makes me very grouchy without realising why :p

cdn1.thehunt.com/app/public/system/zine_images/177475/… < I usually wear those inside :)

I'm the opposite

but warm climate I guess

I miss being able to work in sandals

@JourneymanGeek Even when it's warm here, I don't really like bare feet. I always wear thin panty like socks. Just because it'll make me stick to the floor less

erm... pantyhose like?

@JourneymanGeek Hah! Perks of being female :P If you buy cute sandals, you can wear them together with a shortsleeved dress on hot days ;)

@JourneymanGeek Yep

@Tinkeringbell I'm sure in a few societies dudes can do that.

Just not mine ;p

(and for some odd reason, that dosen't quite appeal to me)

@JourneymanGeek :P I think if some dude showed up in a dress and high heeled sandals here, no one would technically be able to do anything against it? There's been some fun protests IIRC. Last year when it was hot bus drivers protested against long pants being required attire by wearing the skirts that female drivers are allowed to wear :)

(Oh wait, those were technically in France)

Ah well... I'm sure I've seen the same thing over here somewhere, I just can't find a source.

And then there's Ladybeard... (warning: potentially NSFW, might bleed eyes)

A school did that IIRC

@Somewhat The Eurovision Song contest version: https:/en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Neuwirth (same warning: potentially NSFW, might bleed eyes)

Sorry for all those pings, but I fixed the link :)

Eh, that shouldn't make any eyes bleed...

Eh, that looks very mild to me :p

bleeding eyes

You're a flower. You don't have eyes.

Oh

@Mithrandir Says who? Plants are know to grow towards the light, how else would they differentiate light and dark? :D

That one looks absolutely terrified! What did you do to it?

uhh,, I just put the eyes,, and it got terrified all of sudden (this is suddenly dark...)

Ahhh. Next time, don't wear socks and sandals when you do that kind of stuff :P

I blame my socks :(

Good news: They found a 2000 year old Roman road near Utrecht. Apparently you can visit and take a piece home! Guess what I'm doing this weekend, I'm hoarding Roman road :P

Woohoo!... huh, year 2007?

wait... this is a WordPress content for Washington Post?

@Tinkeringbell are you sure? Or is it just a cheap way to get rid of the rubble ...

@rene Ssshhh.. it'll just be some pebbles, but they'll be special pebbles 😉

@Somewhat Probably a different road ;)

:p

TIL Bachelor of Education is B.ED...

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@SmokeDetector user has legit posts as well. Why are they blacklisted?

hmm, they spammed on earlier posts. But this would be the first spammer that responds to comments.

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oh. Finally the room has returned to its intended purpose. Smokey's reports repository

@Derpy Err... the sidebar says it's supposed to be full of stars, chicken and a wheel of blame.

I've yet to see any of those :P

@Tinkeringbell Well, who's fault is that?

I don't need a wheel of blame to answer that one, looks pretty clearcut to me 😉 But I thought we switched topic XD

That's why Derpy came back :) How's your day?

@Somewhat I could totally recommend some things that would make you hate your life

@JourneymanGeek Awww.. let's not do that. Let's cheer them up instead :)

;p

@Tinkeringbell the chicken was a winterbash thing

@JourneymanGeek Ohhh... somethingsomething backlog?

more like no one has changed them

Well.. I can't ;) So maybe someone needs to get creative XD

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Hahaha :P

I do not think anyone can argue with that

I do worry... maybe it's not very welcoming XD

No developer feels welcomed by a room full of backlog XD

I feel putting welcoming might seem a bit sarcastic to some

True... I was being a tad sarcastic myself there ;)

of course it's also full of love... Summer it is...

It is already meteorological autumn though....

Come to think of it, yeah... it's beginning to rain more often here...

From Summer season to Flood season :/

Here too... I got soaking wet yesterday. I travelled from the east to the west Netherlands... at home it was sunny and fine, at the office it was pouring and thundering :/

And I of course didn't pack an umbrella

Does anyone else here get that Expired Hubspot account: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/373711/578411 ?

Nope, different view

Not that what I get is much better ....

strange

404 error, isn't it?

yeah

There's <!-- Start of HubSpot Analytics Code --> in the source though, but not expired (yet?) for us?

sigh

I get a 404

I get a 404 too

GUUUYYYSSS... you need that to make money to keep us running ;p

Without that scribble in the top of rene's screenshot there

okay, only Enterprise works because it redirects to SO domain, not SOB domain...

SOB...

@Tinkeringbell yeah, that scribble occurred before: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/366566/578411

@rene Oh nooo... they tracked me :(

My Logitec mouse RIP so I picked up one I found in a drawer. Now I remember why I put it away: It double-clicks by default. Trying to select text or snip a screenshot is impossible ...

It double-clicks by default? What kind of monstrous eldritch horror is it, exactly?

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Guess what? The OPCW granted me access to their database.

@Tinkeringbell WUT?

Unfortunately, it does not contain any manufacturing information nor ingredients that might be prohibited as well, only the Chemicals themselves...

@rene I'm wondering what kind of brand it is that thinks it's a good idea to double click on default

@Tinkeringbell Magic! Mouse! From! China! (Cheap! Price!) is the actual brand name.

:D ;-) :D

@Tinkeringbell it is also a Logitec. I assume it got handled badly but when you press charges I will deny I ever saw that mouse ....

Not sure if that line will hold in court

we'll see

Hmmmm... I think people can get away with saying a lot of stuff by 'I was just saying stuff'... it seems to be mr. Holleeders main defence

@rene I remember this... that's why I used MouseKeys at that time...

:D

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grumbles at SEDE again

SEDE grumbles back at @Mith

@Fabby cool! So now you have all their secrets? ;)

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Nah. only a list of what is prohibited: no manufacturing details, nor when it was fisrt used / how / when it was banned / ...

Totally useless and that's probably why I was granted access without any questions asked.

(I was expecting a chemistry exam)

:D ;-) :D

lol

My wife learned Chemistry at university and worked as a chemist in Teva company for several years.

@Fabby is that a read only access?

I have a degree in Chemistry but never worked in the Chemical industry except for my first job, which was at the time "EDP-Production Liaison Officer" and would nowadays be called "IT support"

@OptimusPrime I haven't tried to update anything by manually doing a post instead of a get...

(yet...) ;-)

@Fabby it's the guy who install the monitors and printers, no? ;)

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Actually, it was the guy calibrating Photospectrometers, Gaschromatographers, reprogramming PLCs, using SQL on DB2 for any queries that the built-in IQF (Interactive Query Facility) on the IBM Mainframe coudn't do, program in PASCAL to glue everything together,

EEHLAPI (integration between OS/2 1.3-2.0 and said mainframe), ...

but any Chemist or Chemical factory worker (and not only their Managers) could always ask me anything.

Open door policy that I've maintained all through my career

@Fabby open door anywhere? Even when you were in toilets? :D :D :D

But yeah.... sounds like you were the "do it all" guy which is nice. Don't think workplaces got such people these days. Every employee is focused on their own specific role.

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Actually, now that you're talking about that, back when I was furbishing my flat, the toilet was the first thing I installed...

... long before the doors were!!!

:D :P :D

@Fabby makes sense, one needs to use them without notice... :)

Well, at your own house it's kind of expected to be in toilets with open door. :D

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard I'm an old fart and the job just created itself as no one of the other EDP people (Electronic Data Processing, what IT was called before it became IT) knew anything about the stuff I was doing...

Why bother to close if nobody can see anyway? Just waste of few seconds and power.

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard I agree with you, but my girlfriend at the time disagreed.

@Mithrandir cough, cough chat.meta.stackexchange.com/rooms/1223/data-explorer-sede

@Fabby ohh

She hated me walking into the bathroom and kissing here while she was sitting down on the toilet and then just walk out...

@rene yep, was going to go there but figured it out

Good, good.

@Fabby that's gross even for me.... and believe me, I like most gross things..... :P

My wife has no problem with open door in toilets, but it has its limits. :D

To me, that's one of the three signs of real love (If that one is already gross to you, the other 2 will be gross as well, so don't ask or I'll answer...)

@Fabby Gross doesn't mean I don't like to know/hear about them... do tell! :D

Worst case @rene can move the messages to Den if they turn out too gross for ordinary people. :P

Oh you posted there already, lol. You're smart! :D

@ShadowtheWelcomingWizard Hah! Beat you and decamped to the Den

@kId Looking for your notebook? I don't know who took it, sorry.

@Derpy lol

looking for something else :P

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog No. It's been triaged in our bug and feature tracker but I don't have an updated ETA.

foreach (var task in backlog){
     RealizeTaskIsMissingInfoAndCantBePerformedRightNow();
     continue;
}

The first one, can't be implemented with the current DB model....

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the second one, require non-existing api it does

the third, doesn't make sense currently and probably is to be rewritten...

and so on.

What a nice day has it been so far.

@Derpy usually, cursive can be used to indicate sarcasm. So... not nice? What's happened?

@Tinkeringbell should be clear :P A list of task I had, none is doable right now.

So no tasks for you... go home! :D

@Derpy Sounds a bit like my life this week

I've spend some "idle" hours this week just waiting for people to fix my tasks :(