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Somewhat Memorable Name

1:41 AM

Morning

Somewhat Memorable Name

4:12 AM

Ooo, I just saw the more verbose upvote & flag button on comments...

and I like how comments on CoC feedback post is consistently cleaned up :)

Shog9

Me too, that's why I keep cleaning 'em up

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

4:46 AM

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312809/…

Somewhat Memorable Name

5:31 AM

sd del piero

Journeyman Geek

0_0

The footballer?

Somewhat Memorable Name

:)

Journeyman Geek

@SomewhatMemorableName I really thinK TPTB want answers rather than comments :)

I'd say shog, but I'm sure a good chunk of the CM team would agree.

Somewhat Memorable Name

yeah, because, really... seeing a glimpse of yesterday's comments (at the time Thorsten was here), I don't think those "feedback" on the comment would go well...

Also, this is like you are doing spamming. please read the guidelines. I've already added a comment on your previous question why these questions may get closed and how those are against the rules. please be kind to read the guidelines. Welcome to Movies and TV SE :) — Vishwa 18 mins ago

Welcoming spammer!!1!

Journeyman Geek

lol

Maaan

I once was nasty enough to a spammer they self deleted ;)

(Then they made me a mod, so I can't do that no more ;) )

Well not nasty, I pointed out it was counter productive and they should fire whoever thought spamming was a good way to promote their product.

Journeyman Geek

5:53 AM

cause I'm too lazy to work out smokey... (sorry)

can someone feed smokey the answers from this user? superuser.com/users/597818/lizzy-smith

then let me know so I can nuke ;p

Somewhat Memorable Name

@JourneymanGeek both of them??

Journeyman Geek

hmm

actually no

One's innocent

0

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deffo spam

superuser.com/a/1341396/10165 is sneaky, but I smelt that one first cause it mentioned stellar...

who I know are spammers

(guys. We remember. We never forgive. And sometimes even scooby snacks do not satiate our doggy rage.)

@SomewhatMemorableName If anyone asks, say I said so ;)

Now I'll go flag and set em on fire.

I appreciate the long con, the posts were two years apart

Somewhat Memorable Name

"you're spam banned. Please wait for 6 months until you can spam again"

Journeyman Geek

oh

No one noticed ._.

and this is a situation where it was a mix of folks remembering spammers (me!) and... stuff just smelling wrong ;p

I give 'generic anglosaxon' names a second look. As racist as that sounds ._.

Somewhat Memorable Name

and 'pretty female profile'. As sexist as that sounds >_<

Journeyman Geek

6:01 AM

naw, spammers are equal opportunity ;)

though, ya stock picture good looking probably dosen't help

... I don't even know what to call that bias.

The joke is...

they could save a lot of work and go with a gravatar

(cue all the spammers using pictures of dogs as their ava...)

Somewhat Memorable Name

So, I was trying to search about the spammer's experience on Stack Exchange (and failed miserably). Though, I found this instead: How to Block Webmasters.stackexchange.com Referrals in Google Analytics

Somewhat Memorable Name

6:19 AM

@HankyPanky I disagree and have reverted the title to a neutral one. We don't need a clickbait title to get good questions or answers. — JonathanReez ♦ yesterday

My faith in Travel.SE is (slightly) restored...

Magisch

6:31 AM

Anyone got any idea what this is: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312816/…

Whatever this is, it's either gibberish or beyond my english speaking skills

rene

looks like a test

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch That reads a little like a rant on a closed question

Magisch

cv-pls Blatantly OT for meta - meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312813/…

cv-pls Blatantly OT for meta - meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312814/…

Somewhat Memorable Name

Browsing his past activity, it doesn't look like the user has some grudges against SE... So I'll agree that this is a test.

... or this answer

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@SomewhatMemorableName Guy's a troll, don't feed them.

Somewhat Memorable Name

6:42 AM

I didn't really feed them. I asked curiously and moved on.

Okay, I kind of agree it's a troll. Alright, moving on fast...

Magisch

cv-pls Blatantly OT for meta - meta.stackexchange.com/questions/312817/…

Shadow Wizard

6:58 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName until next clash...

Journeyman Geek

That's a new one.

Off topic question. Self answered within a minute.

And it was not a simple answer solvable in one minute ._.

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

7:23 AM

Is there an SEDE query to find posts by a specific user whose last comment was made by a specific user?

rene

not ready made I would say. Not hard to create.

Magisch

Not that I know of, do you want one?

rene

amaze me @Magisch

Journeyman Geek

That seems... specific

Magisch

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog data.stackexchange.com/meta.stackexchange/query/876332/…

For you & shog

Journeyman Geek

7:33 AM

@Magisch ._. I'm not even sure why you'd assume he'd need that XD

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Magisch What makes you think so?

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog could just change the UIDs I guess

Magisch

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog You asked that specifically in the past

They're variables, you can change the UIDS without editing the query

I just used posts by shog with comments from sonic to test since he asked about it specifically in the past so I knew there were at least some

Which saved me from finding a instance where there's more then 1 by sleuthing on MSE

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Magisch Would you mind adding another column for the time of the latter users' comment?

Magisch

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog data.stackexchange.com/meta.stackexchange/query/876332/…

@rene I know you could probably do it in 1/4 of the time as me, but still, fun exercise :P

Somewhat Memorable Name

7:41 AM

SQL golfing?

Journeyman Geek

The difference between golfing and optimisation is.. whether you get paid? ;p

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shog9 Still waiting for your responses to my comments here, here, and here.

Journeyman Geek

._.

Magisch

I'm now regretting having made that query

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I now imagine Ash making that face :P

Journeyman Geek

7:52 AM

@Tinkeringbell We call it the "Great Granma's Soap opera face"

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek That sounds as if you need that face a lot in real life

Journeyman Geek

cause as a pup, he expected everyone to go to bed at half past ten, and would stare angrily at my granma until she went to bed

cause if little ash went to bed, everyone needed to go to bed.

Somewhat Memorable Name

OTOH, I'm curious if Anime.SE will get rep privilege bumped or not some time in the future ...

Tinkeringbell

is ._. an angry face then?

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell its a bit of a we are not amused face

Somewhat Memorable Name

7:53 AM

emojipedia.org/neutral-face

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Huh... I always looked at it as an 'I'm not sure what to think of this' face

Journeyman Geek

(I don't really approve of pinging CMs to get /demand responses for non life and death situations)

even as a mod, sometimes i go "flag plz"

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek sometimes? :P

Somewhat Memorable Name

need eyebrow, like （´・_・｀）

Tinkeringbell

Have to do that a lot ;) Dangers of hanging out in the chat room. Must admit it's my own fault as well, because I'm not very consistent at enforcing it. If I'm there and have the time, I handle it ;)

Journeyman Geek

7:54 AM

Well there's the "Its hard enough to get acceptedf flags" and there's the "dude, I'm on my phone, someone else can deal" flag plzes

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek I think it's OK, because the team has explicitly stated in a meta post that they're OK with people using the contact form to get attention for unaddressed bugs and FRs.

Tinkeringbell

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog contact form is hugely different from chat pings?

I'm... not following that jump

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek Ash is running the household confirmed

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Yeah. True :) There's also the 'there's already enough flags. Just keep the rest for tomorrow' XD

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

I did list pinging an SE employee in chat as a way to get attention for such requests in my answer on how to get attention for unaddressed requests for the team. While I did bow down to community pressure to remove it, I still believe it to be an effective method.

Magisch

8:00 AM

No such thing as enough flags. Always more flags until you don't have any left

Then, repeat

Somewhat Memorable Name

Capture the Flags

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Shadow has waited years for some of his custom flags on meta to be handled.

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog "contact form"

Somewhat Memorable Name

TBH, every time Shog was talking about foods in here, I couldn't undestand most of them...

Perhaps lemonade is still the simplest

Shadow Wizard

@JourneymanGeek even longer waiting.

Journeyman Geek

8:15 AM

@ShadowWizard might do good to learn patience ;)

Unless its a security issue...

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek I used that twice, and didn't get a response for close to a year, until I said it wasn't necessary to respond anymore

Shadow Wizard

But I am. ;)

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard I admittedly treat the contact form as fire and forget.

@SomewhatMemorableName food isn't universal

Magisch

I imagine some employee setting the prio to -10 and then it gets lost in the ever growing ticket backlog

Journeyman Geek

Other than polenta analogs

Tinkeringbell

8:18 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName Wait. You're having trouble understanding food? :P Perhaps this helps:

> any nutritious substance that people or animals eat or drink or that plants absorb in order to maintain life and growth.

Martin James

@Tinkeringbell ...except anchovies/sardines.

Tinkeringbell

@MartinJames Oh. If we're going to limit it to stuff we like, I'd like to rule out tomatoes as well

They're not a fruit, not a vegetable and not a food. Solves a lot of problems :P

Somewhat Memorable Name

So... it must be nutritious , for whatever "nutritious " means...

Martin James

@Tinkeringbell So, tht's most types of pizza out. Now we have to worry about users leaving the site because they have starved to death:(

Tinkeringbell

> efficient as food; nourishing.

I'm not going to google the meanings of efficient or nourishing :P But I guess it's enough to say that if you eat it, it won't make you starve to death :P

@MartinJames I have been assured that there's a way to make pizza without tomatoes :)

I just need to find a pizzeria that's crazy enough to do so ;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

8:36 AM

Hmm... given an on-topic "list" question, is posting an answer to get rep, then later change it to CW so others can participate.. a questionable behavior?

Tinkeringbell

@SomewhatMemorableName I don't think so. The FAQ on community wiki posts says the original author of a post that's made community wiki gets to keep their rep... that must be there for a reason?

Maybe they didn't know what community wiki was, or the benefits of having such a status.

Journeyman Geek

@MartinJames death by starvation is hardly welcoming

Well cws are semi obsolete

@Tinkeringbell white pizza is actually traditional iirc

I would look it up but I am on my phone

Tinkeringbell

9:08 AM

@JourneymanGeek I've been told that before. Personally, I like sprinkles on bread better than vegetables, so I never really looked into it ;)

Shadow Wizard

9:23 AM

Pizza without tomato sauce is just bread with cheese

@JourneymanGeek exactly how I treat MSE custom flags! ;)

Magisch

pizza in general is rather unpleasant

Unless without cheese

Shadow Wizard

Cheese is the core of pizza...

Somewhat Memorable Name

Cheese-based pizza with bread topping?

Magisch

I've eaten pizza without tomato sauce or cheese before and it was still fine

Shadow Wizard

I often eat pizza for lunch. 🍕

Somewhat Memorable Name

9:26 AM

Not topping... umm, bottoming?

I eat pizza without tomato/chili sauce though. Prefer the original taste than the tomato.

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch that... Wasn't pizza. ;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

(but then, I either eat Pizza Hut or Domino Pizza...)

Shadow Wizard

@SomewhatMemorableName that isn't a noun

Somewhat Memorable Name

uh oh, apparently bottoming can be NSFW

(halp! request RO to trash dat)

Oh yeah, anyway...

Monty Wild and L.Dutch joined WB's mod team~

Derpy

9:46 AM

The travelling lamp rises on a new day and the beldams hunteth continueth

Tinkeringbell

@Derpy Yeah. Good morning to you too. :D

Derpy

Valorous morn to thee, mine own loyal parrot. Doth thee wanteth a holidam biscuit?

Somewhat Memorable Name

I appreciate the high-level vocabulary used in this post, but some of us are not English native speakers and had a difficulty in digesting the meaning of this post. — Somewhat Memorable Name 3 hours ago

s/post/chat message

but I want biscuit

Magisch

Oi squirt, look 'ere. If thee posts bin fodder, they shoudst 'spect dat fowks wi' chuk yer bum effrets in te rubbish tin were de sun dinna shine. — Martin James 2 hours ago

Derpy

@SomewhatMemorableName yep, sorry, have been listening to Gaelic / Scottish traditional music for the latest... 3 hours? and the effects are starting to show

Tinkeringbell

10:27 AM

@Derpy Nah thanks. I just ate lunch :P

Just tried my hand at my first close-vote: meta.stackexchange.com/q/312835/369802 is off-topic, right?

@Magisch I'm tempted to say that's not very nice ;)

rene

@Tinkeringbell I would say so, yes.

Tinkeringbell

10:42 AM

@rene Good. I'm never sure when to pick just the top one (off-topic) or the bottom one that screams 'blatantly off-topic'? What's the difference?

meta.stackexchange.com/q/312834/369802 Also, wasn't this one posted already?

I'm having a deja-vu

rene

@Tinkeringbell yes

@Tinkeringbell left a comment

Tinkeringbell

@rene Huh. Nice :) I was still wondering if to do so, and how to point that out nicely ;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

@Tinkeringbell left a comment. Expect "Meta SE is unwelcoming"

Well... I know that user was active on Anime.SE and had actively participated on child meta before I became active on there...

Tinkeringbell

@SomewhatMemorableName Well, not yet ;) Also, I think your comment is okay ;)

@SomewhatMemorableName And on a second thought. Is that person asking for getting something implemented that makes the answers across SE (all hardware related sites) more environmentally friendly?

Because that might just be a bad idea then, not off-topic

Somewhat Memorable Name

11:03 AM

I don't think so, I think he just wanted to cross-post the same Meta Photo post to other hardware-related sites asking for the same input.

Which could be seen as asking a solution to a non-existence problem on other sites...

Tinkeringbell

@SomewhatMemorableName But... then it's good they picked MSE? Because it would address policy on multiple sites. (I must admit I'm waaay too new to be having close-vote privs)

rene

@Tinkeringbell I'm raging behind my keyboard but the New CoC Filter™ smoothens everything out into fluffy wording ...

Tinkeringbell

@rene Hmmm. That sounds like something you could sell to at least the entire Dutch population on SE

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch tempted to reply I am groot

Somewhat Memorable Name

There's a close reason "specific to some sites", which I chose for that question. A policy on Meta SE can be seen as "general policy/guideline" that should be followed as possible, but I see that question pertains only to Photo.SE. SuperUser could have different policy.... or ServerFault (throwing server?)

Journeyman Geek

11:07 AM

@Tinkeringbell it's ok. You can get lots of practice

I close and delete here more than anywhere, even SU

rene

@Tinkeringbell yes, they are an awesome testgroup.

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek I'm already trying ;)

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek you are dog

Tinkeringbell

@SomewhatMemorableName You're right. I could probably better have picked that one

Somewhat Memorable Name

@Magisch we are all dog, aren't we?

Derpy

11:09 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName who are you calling a dog?

Martin James

@SomewhatMemorableName Well, those that aren't bi... never mind.

Somewhat Memorable Name

@Derpy dog buster?

Journeyman Geek

True but that dosen't open things up to a joke about vocabulistics

Somewhat Memorable Name

oh, you didn't call some ~~one~~ thing

Magisch

@Derpy you are gray pony

Somewhat Memorable Name

11:12 AM

(my dog joke was too risky... one wrong word and it could be fatal)

Derpy

@Magisch I'm Muffin

user1306322

yo

Derpy

kai watch

Somewhat Memorable Name

howdy

didn't watch...

user1306322

didn't watch either

@rene do you understand the issue I'm trying to bring attention to in my question? The way you phrased your comment makes me think you don't

rene

11:26 AM

Thanks for that feedback. I leave it to others to sort out then.

Derpy

is Catija pinned post a devious plot to get us hungry?

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy what pinned post?

Derpy

I clicked it, only to be greeted by a gallery of various candies and sweets.

Somewhat Memorable Name

starred, not yet pinned...

Derpy

@ShadowWizard I said pinned, meant starred

Somewhat Memorable Name

11:28 AM

just one step before world hunger domination...

Journeyman Geek

@user1306322 you might want to choose to phrase things a little less agressively. People might react better to them that way.

@Derpy the haribo one?

user1306322

@JourneymanGeek like what?

I'm just straightforward in my phrasing and there's a character limit too

Journeyman Geek

Well.what I replied to.

user1306322

yea there's a whole mess under my question on meta

people seem to think I'm looking for a "recommendation"

rene

Yes

Journeyman Geek

11:31 AM

It's up to us as communicators to make ourselves understood

user1306322

I want to know if it's cool to ask the same question on different metas

rene

No, it is not

user1306322

I often have this problem on the main SE meta

it seems like other sites understand me more

my experience with the global meta so far has been dramatically worse than with other metas

Journeyman Geek

Cross posting is discouraged heavily

user1306322

discouraged how?

Journeyman Geek

11:33 AM

People get annoyed

user1306322

with downvotes? by mods deleting copies of the question on other metas?

Somewhat Memorable Name

The problem with cross-posting your meta post is because, there's a possibility that there's no issue on that site regarding your post.

rene

@user1306322 yes, both

Journeyman Geek

There's no explicit mechanism against it, sure

user1306322

so I'm asking for community input

do you think there's an issue with people recommending to throw tech away if it can be easily repaired by someone else, but a repair shop will ask ridiculous cost for it

see I could have just asked in chat

Journeyman Geek

11:34 AM

But it works better when you have a specific post to ask abot

user1306322

but I'd like it to be a more permanent and localized discussion

not many people use chat on those tech related sites, it's pretty empty most times

@JourneymanGeek I linked to it, on the photo meta

Journeyman Geek

Or better yet you post an exceptional answer glorious in it's construction

user1306322

I was not planning on posting an answer

I just want to hear what people think about this

Shadow Wizard

@Derpy no link in @Catija's starred message, so... still confused.

user1306322

I posted a comment though

Journeyman Geek

11:36 AM

Boring

user1306322

not sure it won't be deleted but I don't have enough on-topic info to post an answer to that question

Journeyman Geek

So learn :)

user1306322

see this is the extent I'm willing to go about this

I want to know people's opinion on something, and you propose to post my thoughts to one post as an answer. That's just awkward

Journeyman Geek

Cause I have taught myself to diagnose and replace caps on old monitors

Somewhat Memorable Name

What I saw: you read a post on Photo.SE and saw a problem. You asked it on Meta Photo.SE (okay). You generalize the issue to all other sites by posting on Meta SE (questionable). You almost posted the same issue on other meta sites (questionable, since those sites might not have a problem with that).

Or.... you see Meta SE as a general discussion site?

Journeyman Geek

11:38 AM

So I can post an answer and complain in good faith is someone is unhappy

user1306322

I see Meta SE as a site to post a question suitable for a number of other metas, when posting to >1 of them is discouraged

is that wrong?

should I post to those N sites' metas instead?

Journeyman Geek

Not reeaaslllyyy

user1306322

well, yea, this is why we're here :p

I'm trying to figure out the best course of action

Journeyman Geek

But broader network issues are rare

Catija

Meta is not where opinion-based questions go... it's where questions about the site go. The relevance of cross posting is a red herring... it's not a meta-appropriate question at all. It's better for a completely different site entirely, like a forum.

Journeyman Geek

11:40 AM

And you're best off asking on per site meta's as you find posts you can answer with such answers

Magisch

Morning Catija btw

Journeyman Geek

We do not like polling questions mostly

Catija

Morning.

user1306322

the main issue is not really so big that everyone would agree that it exists and a meta discussion about it has a place on meta, and that is why I'm asking about whether it's an issue people see as real issue, and also I don't want just Photo's input, since this could be recognized as an issue on other hardware sites.

Journeyman Geek

Unless you work here... :P

@user1306322 so. Bring it up as you find it's an issue

user1306322

11:41 AM

alright, I asked on photo, and I'll say that's enough headache for me already :p

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek even then, not always

user1306322

sometimes I ask "do you think this is an issue?" and people get defensive and aggressive and I'm like wtf and I leave SE for a while

this is like half of my meta experience

the other half is quite pleasant and informative

guess that's human interaction for ya

Magisch

tis' your tone

Somewhat Memorable Name

But well, what's the purpose of that meta post, once again? Is it to prevent certain answers?

user1306322

"In my opinion we should ... blah blah blah". Then go write that as your answer, instead of trying to preach to others that they should write it as their answers. — Olin Lathrop 13 mins ago

oof my tone

@SomewhatMemorableName I want to find out if people think it's a worthwhile issue to take into account when recommending what to do in case where a damaged item costs more to repair than buying a new one

if people think it's worth discussing, then maybe someone would create a meta question asking whether we should advise something specific, you know, for the betterment of the world, ecology, recycling, etc

if people think it's a non-problem, do nothing

but I wanted an "official" discussion on meta

so that this could be referred to in future

right now I just got my question closed on the global meta as not appropriate for the global meta, but I got an answer on the photo meta, essentially saying "this is your opinion, don't waste our time"

I guess that's an opinion of one high rep user on there

I'm awaiting for more input

Somewhat Memorable Name

11:48 AM

Okay, I think I can grasp the situation now.

user1306322

I'd ask on their respective chats but I'm looking to have a permanent discussion to which users can be referred to in the future, and also chat isn't a great format for such discussions, with the lack of votes and localization of topics

usually I ask on metas and it's cool

I'm not sure why this specific question is so controversial though

maybe it's a sign of how people think it's not a real issue

but see, this is what I don't like about metas - if they don't think it's a real issue, instead of saying so, your question gets deleted and if someone else looks for it, you can't find it via search all closed and downvoted

sometimes at least

Somewhat Memorable Name

I guess why it looks "controversial" because they couldn't understand the broader situation at the time it was posted on MSE (me neither). I only understood know after you explaining all of this.

user1306322

I'd be perfectly fine if it was answered as "the community at large seems to agree this is not an issue or something we should be concerned about" and closed, and stayed there for all future users to find

well, I'm just glad it's finally cleared up a little

in my opinion we (the SE community) should strive to advise users to act more ecologically friendly, but if it's such a problem, I'd like to know why exactly it is a problem

Somewhat Memorable Name

Also the "topic" you're explaining looks too narrow (it's about throwing vs recycling/sell), so some users might be hard to understand if this is a big issue on most SE.

user1306322

like you know with some tech it might be very dangerous to re-use, like something containing dangerous chemicals which might break and spill

rene

11:54 AM

waffles

Somewhat Memorable Name

But I guess what you really wanted to ask is: "Should we reduce tangential opinion-based suggestion when answering?"...

Journeyman Geek

It's a non issue cause 'its fixable' with sufficient backing information is an answer

user1306322

@rene if that is the answer most users agree on, nothing would change in that case. If the majority of users agreed that is an issue, then a post with recommended re-selling sites or something could be compiled to which users could be linked when something is too expensive to fix but it still of use. Just because we're nice.

Somewhat Memorable Name

(I haven't read the underlying Photo.SE question though, I assume that's the problem)

Okay, I have read the answers, and I think I get the issue right.

user1306322

for example, on anime we don't give people recommendations or do identifications but we've compiled a meta post with out own recommendations and a meta post for self-help in identifying anime pictures and gifs. I think it's nice and most of our users there agree. Nobody forced us to help more than we need to outside of strictly answering questions as asked.

@SomewhatMemorableName uhh not sure I understand

rene

11:59 AM

So it is a bit similar to this

user1306322

@JourneymanGeek the question and the answers on that Photo post are not what concerns me, it's that one recommendation to throw it away instead of reusing something that largely works aside from one malfunctioning part.

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