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1:06 AM

@Catija I'm vaguely convinced a lot of chat issues are wetware. Though I wouldn't say no to, or suggest tweaks to the mod tooling

Catija

1:17 AM

It's sorta difficult to know there's a wetware problem if the tooling is lacking.

I mean, if you're in a room all the time and see notices like kicks and check in on suspensions... fine... but being able to go into a room that no mods hang out in and see the history and the users and stuff... is difficult.

user310756

1:36 AM

@snailboat I'm not sure. They're a minority, not sure how large a minority. Over 50% have programming skills. Which doesn't mean they understand how to use the site. But hopefully the new UI will fix that

Somewhat Memorable Name

huh, morning...

Journeyman Geek

3:17 AM

@Catija and that's a problem inherent to chat moderation to me.

I think you've heard me argue a lot over how chat moderation needs to be realtime when there's a problem, but its a long term process of actually working with people.

Somewhat Memorable Name

FR: chat flag notify RO & mods in real time (also, on mobile app)

Journeyman Geek

@SomewhatMemorableName it happens in realtime. Which is also a problem

If we need tooling, it needs to be per room - and let us see kicks, flags and stars per room and who did/recieved them as appropriate

Catija

3:57 AM

@JourneymanGeek Not to mention that the staff tend to outright delete if they see them... other than Robert who tends to just close.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija ... we talking meta or chat? ;p

Catija

Your answer to Monica's question.

Journeyman Geek

ah ya

Catija

I've always taken closing/deleting by users the closest to what they're doing... if they're deleting without commenting, they must have a reason for it?

Journeyman Geek

@Catija but there's relatively few staff who do it - and I don't really blame em.

Catija

3:59 AM

Well... there's few enough active regularly on MSE, too.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija which baffles me a bit, but I'm sure there's a good reason.

Catija

> They're the navel of the SE administrators, always available for gazing.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija Well, I've always assumed least lately there's a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes

I mean, SE's a lot more than Q&A, and there's been various attempts to grow past the core/public Q&A

Catija

Oh, that wasn't really a response, so much that it was an odd thing to say...

@JourneymanGeek Less of that, now... with the focus on Enterprise/Teams.

Journeyman Geek

oh

that's shog ;)

Catija

4:05 AM

Was it?

Journeyman Geek

Yup

Jeff was a lot less... poetic.

Catija

It's odd... I don't think I noticed how guy-heavy the CMs are...

Journeyman Geek

@Catija I think historically it was 1:4?

but there were 3+1 CMs

I think CHAOS was about 50/50

but shrug I do think that gender dosen't quite matter in this role, or any role ;)

Catija

Now it's 8:1:1, I guess?

Journeyman Geek

lol

err... really?

I didn't realise there was no other female CMs other than ana (and of course we don't know about the other one, and tbh, I love that mystery ;) )

Catija

4:09 AM

10 total, only Abby and Grace Note aren't declared male, as far as I'm aware?

Journeyman Geek

ah

ya

ah, not counting ana

Abby's ex chaos.

Catija

Yeah, Ana's already off the list. Still waiting for the new one. (going based on the Community Team post).

Journeyman Geek

ya

I've interacted with ana before so... forgot about abby :(

Catija

Abby is awesome. :D

Somewhat Memorable Name

boat hat

ɥʇǝS

4:20 AM

with hair

Journeyman Geek

4:31 AM

@Catija true but I quite literally go "Oh, I talked to ana when foo... also, one of my users was super creepy about her and had to be smacked down"

;)

Catija

... ewww.

Not the best note to end on but... I'm going to bed. :/

Journeyman Geek

@Catija specific user is odd. And mostly harmless. ANd loves to test my patience ;)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

5:39 AM

Can someone please provide me an SEDE query to search for answers by Shog whose last comment was by me?

Glad you both are ROs

Journeyman Geek

tbh, I'd tell you that even if I wasn't ;)

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

When the cats are away, the hedgehogs will play

user1306322

6:01 AM

@JourneymanGeek what items exactly? and what is the shipping policy to other countries

Journeyman Geek

@user1306322 100k ... mug (if available), T shirt, water bottle (if available) site stickers IIRC

and I have never had issues with swag to singapore

Other countries, depends, I've heard of folks stuff getting lost getting sent to india

donno about 250k

Somewhat Memorable Name

6:15 AM

... unicorn painting

Journeyman Geek

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog I know spellcheck but err... some folk get annoyed when you edit ~~correct~~ british english spelling to ~~filthy colonial~~ american spelling

I personally am meh over that but... ;p

Somewhat Memorable Name

@JourneymanGeek I consider blaming myself using Grammarly that specifies which English the user prefers...

so when I edit someone's post...

[fill in the blank]

Journeyman Geek

@SomewhatMemorableName I use british spelling (mostly?) but don't get too bothered by AME spelling

Gaurang Tandon

[Conversations Gone Awry: Detecting Early Signs of Conversational Failure - to be published in Association for Computational Linguistics](https://arxiv.org/abs/1805.05345)

"One of the main challenges online social systems face is the prevalence of antisocial behavior, such as harassment and personal attacks. In this work, we introduce the task of predicting from the very start of a conversation whether it will get out of hand. As opposed to detecting undesirable behavior after the fact, this task aims to enable early, actionable prediction at a time when the conversation might still be sal…

Journeyman Geek

._.

Gaurang Tandon

6:22 AM

I also posted this on Charcoal, but I guess this is better suited here after the recent comments blog post

Journeyman Geek

@GaurangTandon assuming good intent from both sides... ;p

Somewhat Memorable Name

I guess....

Sentiment analysis

Opinion mining (sometimes known as sentiment analysis or emotion AI) refers to the use of natural language processing, text analysis, computational linguistics, and biometrics to systematically identify, extract, quantify, and study affective states and subjective information. Sentiment analysis is widely applied to voice of the customer materials such as reviews and survey responses, online and social media, and healthcare materials for applications that range from marketing to customer service to clinical medicine. Generally speaking, sentiment analysis aims to determine the attitude of a speaker...

rene

Are you Dutch? If yes, awry conversation ....

Journeyman Geek

and that both folks are happy to let a robot tell them to chill.

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek That's something I can see pissing a lot of people off

Journeyman Geek

6:26 AM

yup ;p

Somewhat Memorable Name

I prefer to let 2 robots have a conversation instead and we tell them to chill...

rene

At least the bot gets harassed in that case ...

Gaurang Tandon

@JourneymanGeek :P

Journeyman Geek

I mean

I like tech as much as the next guy

but sometimes you actually have to let folks sort things out organically

Somewhat Memorable Name

so, "early, actionable prediction" = auto flag for mod attention

Journeyman Geek

6:29 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName I guess

Seems very big brother still

Gaurang Tandon

@JourneymanGeek hmm... <nod>

but I think rude comments should be done away with as early as possible

like this thing

38

Q: Heat Detector - analysing comments to find heat

General Heat detector is a StackApp whose goal is to catch offensive, rude, snarky comments, and comments that leads to abusive content (offensive, spam posts, or previous offensive comments). It is running a bot that queries comments from the Stack Exchange API and retrieves all comments posted...

Journeyman Geek

Well, its as much a broader community/communication issue as a technical one

Deleting rude comments takes away the symptoms but not the causes

Gaurang Tandon

I see

Somewhat Memorable Name

Deleting rude users... oops

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@JourneymanGeek Some of that is autocorrect - for example, if I edit something right after a British spelling word, it corrects it to American spelling. For others, it's my browser's spell check telling me I spelled a word wrong and suggesting the American spelling.

Bhargav Rao

6:48 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName Bot-Bot conversations are fun chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/111347/conversation/…

Bot-Human conversations are even better chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/111347/conversation/…

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

In the archives somewhere is a conversation between me and the Feeds user

Mithrandir

7:03 AM

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Is Feeds being sentient?

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Mithrandir Well, the robots were there for some time.

Journeyman Geek

7:47 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName We'd be short a few regulars ;)

I've never ever deleted a user for being rude

One did self delete, after being told once he was unwelcome, coming back and trying to gaslight a mod....

rene

We're looking for mods made of non-combustible materials ...

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek What a unwelcoming action, telling someone they're unwelcome...

Journeyman Geek

@Magisch true, but sometimes sadly enough, its necessary

rene

maybe we need a rude.se where we migrate those rude users to?

Journeyman Geek

maybe?

Its less of a situation on most of SE I guess?

By right, there's no space to be rude.

rene

7:59 AM

Okay, I see support for this, let me open an A51 proposal ....

Journeyman Geek

Chat's different I guess?

rene

chat.rude.se will be in place

all users will be kicked from the chatrooms they enter

Magisch

Maybe SE can open rude.SE and make a rule like subreddit banbots

If you were ever active in X subreddit, you get autobanned from Y subreddit

Journeyman Geek

._.

Derpy

@Magisch so if you posted on lifehacks, you get shadow-ban on every other site?

Magisch

8:05 AM

@Derpy Subreddits use it for purposes like "if you ever posted to SRS, you're autobanned from this subreddit because only toxic people post there". The goal is to disincentivize participation in the blacklisted subreddits

Much like twitter banlists where you get autoblocked if you follow or retweet certain people

Derpy

@Magisch reminds me of I local youtuber that I "hate" very much. Boys-be-boys attitude, offensive video titles and preview thumbnails (I don't comment on the actual content just because I don't watch them), abusive videos with pranks on random people (like calling people in the middle of the night and such)....

millions subscribers - always on youtube frontpage

there have been multiple petitions in the country to ask youtube to remove his channel from the front page.

no effect

Magisch

@Derpy Youtube understandably doesn't want to get into policing the morals of its users

Because if they do there's worse then that guy waiting in the shadows

Shadow Wizard

shadow? Who said shadow? :D

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch Facebook should have such a system too, but then reversed. If I've blocked Sylvana Simons, I don't want to see her posts because my friends reacted to them... Which is how she still gets on my timeline from time to time

Shadow Wizard

Who's Sylvana Simons?

Magisch

8:19 AM

Do we even want to know?

Shadow Wizard

Probably not...

rene

Yes, you do!

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Oh... Dutch famous person gone politician

Shadow Wizard

oh, like Arnold?

Tinkeringbell

@rene I'm on the 'you don't want to know' camp as well :P

I should not have said that...

Shadow Wizard

8:20 AM

you did

rene

for all we know, she is not good at choosing a name for her political movement ...

Tinkeringbell

@ShadowWizard Yeah. Because seeing that on my Facebook timeline manages to piss me off... Like all political posts btw. And when I get mad, I stop thinking sometimes :P

rene

Back in the days you could simply put the waste bucket in the mailbox during the election campaign ...

Tinkeringbell

@rene I guess I'm too young to remember that? I find elections as a whole confusing, I never have enough time to actually figure out what I'm voting for...

I'm mostly only voting against certain stuff, by casting my vote a certain way.

'I don't want this, I don't want that... Guess it's X for me then!'

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell also I can't block everything

I often have US political posts I'm uninterested in... and can't block

rene

8:25 AM

I've never voted in my life. I'm just as surprised as everyone else when I read in the newspaper what we're going to do next.

Journeyman Geek

@rene its mandatory here ;p

If you don't vote, you lose your right to vote... Oh wait

rene

Yeah, I praise I live in a country that doesn't have that weirdness

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Yeah, that why I suggested what I suggested ;) I can block politicians on Facebook, but I want the power to not see their posts through friends or even news media as well ;)

@rene Our system has... other downsides ;)

rene

from all the bad systems available, I can life with this one

Tinkeringbell

Hmmm... I guess it's not too bad, it just has downsides too ;)

Journeyman Geek

8:31 AM

as with any system

Somewhat Memorable Name

@JourneymanGeek thanks Google Feed, everytime I check you, there's always news about US politics, and there's no way to block them ... -_-

Journeyman Geek

0_0

the one on android?

Mine's oddly topical

Somewhat Memorable Name

That Trending one...

And checking my Feed option... there's one "Updates from stackapps.com" :/

Journeyman Geek

@SomewhatMemorableName If only google had a feeds product that would let you pick stuff that you actually liked, and was really good

Oh wait

Google Reader.

Right! They killed that off.

Magisch

@JourneymanGeek You will like and read what we tell you to. Silly users and their "preferences"

Journeyman Geek

8:40 AM

@Magisch hah funny story that

I switched to TOR

Shadow Wizard

Didn't twitter kill RSS? I mean, why would anyone want to use RSS when everything is already in their twitter feed?

Journeyman Geek

which... kicked off all their users while they worked out how to moniterise..

@ShadowWizard ah, you are one of those people.

@ShadowWizard twitter is great for a stream of short ... tweets

Magisch

I really dislike twitter

Journeyman Geek

RSS kinda lets me aggregate several hundred websites and lets me read them at leasure as they update

also...

lets folks post more than 128 charecters or something

Somewhat Memorable Name

Before SE mobile apps, there's no API to get HNQ, except RSS feed.

So, thanks mobile apps!

Shadow Wizard

8:44 AM

@JourneymanGeek not sure yet, I tried twitter for a bit (couple of months) but took a wrong turn and removed my account for now.... I didn't focus on news, but I think I might be satisfied with exactly this: stream of short but focused news feeds.

Somewhat Memorable Name

The dark side of Twitter. Oh wait, is there the light side?

Journeyman Geek

@ShadowWizard between SE and my RSS feed reader, most of my internetty needs are met

and RSS lets me skim through headlines and in many cases see if its an article worth reading before going to the main site itself

Some media hates rss cause well, it supposedly keeps folks from their main sites but eh, you can do exerpts in your feeds

Somewhat Memorable Name

9:03 AM

<title>London Stack is Falling Down</title>
<body>Subscribe to read the news</body>

Derpy

@Magisch Users that get TOS violations flags (unlicensed content, rude/vulgar/offensive contents etc) are removed daily and fast

They are protecting this guy and turning the other way only because he is a profitable source of income

morality doesn't matter

Magisch

9:22 AM

@Derpy welcome to corporate america

That was a depressing monday morning meeting

Tinkeringbell

9:41 AM

Aren't they always ;)?

Magisch

An employee from the lab died unexpectantly over the weekend and the meeting was about how to deal with it in business terms

Tinkeringbell

Agh... I hate those too. I much prefer that to not be the main concern :(

Magisch

In practical terms a couple of people are now out on bereavment leave and I have to work on copying over the work related stuff from the desktop

Shadow Wizard

"died unexpectantly"... is it ever expected?

Sorry to hear, @Magisch.

Magisch

@ShadowWizard Certainly is not for a otherwise healthy 32 year old

rene

9:54 AM

That is hard ...

Magisch

Not as hard for the company as it is on his family, I'm sure

Tinkeringbell

@Magisch I don't envy you right now. Good luck :)

rene

@Magisch that's for sure

Shadow Wizard

@Magisch whoa... sad. Heart attack, I assume?

My dad died of heart attack at age of 46.

(that was.... 32 years ago)

@Magisch he was married? Kids?

user1306322

@JourneymanGeek oof... alright I guess I'll just consider myself a valuable member of the community and also constantly get reminders of that when I google long answered questions to problems I've solved myself dating from 2009 on SO :p

I have no use for mugs for cups are a superior vessel for potable liquids

Somewhat Memorable Name

10:06 AM

Plastic bottle for me, sorry...

user1306322

I bought double walled "thermos" glass cups and they are fucking stellar if I may say so about a cup

Tinkeringbell

@user1306322 Aren't those also freakily dangerous? Like, you never feel on the outside of the cup that your tea is still at 90 degrees and definitely not drinkable!

user1306322

first of all, only a very inexperienced tea drinker makes a cup of tea with 90 degrees celsius water, and secondly you get to see the color of water and how well it has steeped so far

if a normal cup is too hot to hold, it's too hot to drink anyways, so I hate regular cups for burning your fingers like it's a normal thing

(has deep resentment for ceramic drink vessels)

Somewhat Memorable Name

[tea.se]

oh, it doesn't exist

Tinkeringbell

I like my big (non-SE) mug. :) Holds a lot of tea, and has a handle big enough to not burn your fingers, while at the same time you can feel from the mug itself whether it's safe to drink, which is a good thing for an easily distracted person that usually just grabs the mug to take a sip

user1306322

10:11 AM

@SomewhatMemorableName wait what

I thought I visited it

maybe it was in beta and didn't live

Derpy

@Tinkeringbell E-Mug?

user1306322

Derpy

Tinkeringbell

@user1306322 If that is yours, it does look pretty :)

user1306322

it definitely is mine

I bought 4 when I saw em

Tinkeringbell

10:14 AM

@Derpy Postgres mug... covered in elephants holding each other's limbs and saying 'full outer join' :P

user1306322

in any case, make tea with 60-70 degree water and see how it changes from your regular preparation technique

also try using less tea if it's loose leaved

chinese reds go from very delicate floral aroma to a sweet flower nectar, to the stronger woody notes the hotter the water is

Tinkeringbell

@user1306322 That 'cold'? We usually boil water and pour it onto the tea...

Then leave it to steep for 5-7 minutes

user1306322

I also don't do the multi-pour tea drinking "ceremonial" approach, just the single-steep

I never boil the water, only warm it up to just enough

in ceremonies you see them heat up the clay tea pots by pouring water over it and around it, but you don't have to do that if you make it a bit hotter to compensate for the temperature loss from equalizing temperatures with the cup/mug

you can really save time and keep your lazy approach with this simple trick :p

if you haven't tried it, experiment with steeping teas with the coldest water possible (50-60 degrees) and see when it gets hot enough to not be "watery lukewarm tea-flavored water" and starts becoming tea

this is usually the optimal temp for greens like sencha and gyokuro

for reds and blacks, maybe go 10-15 degrees higher to draw the stronger flavors but not too strong to kill the delicate notes

it's a whole new tea world out there if you start from cold and warm your way up

Tinkeringbell

Wow... information overflow...

I'm going to copy-paste that somewhere and in a few weeks, when I have a vacation, I'll take the time to try :) Thanks!

user1306322

enjoy!

Journeyman Geek

10:25 AM

@Tinkeringbell the SE mug is big ;)

user1306322

this has been your [tea.se] preview, subscribe to our newsletter which we never send coz gdpr prevents us

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek It's also very far away :P I've only just started this thing ;)

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell true ;)

SU took me about .... 7-8 years? ;)

Tinkeringbell

Pfft. I've probably lost interest in this whole thing by then, knowing me :P

Magisch

@ShadowWizard afaik yes. The wife came around to tell us

Nobody knows what happened exactly and the boss chose not to try and pry.

user1306322

10:38 AM

Try&Pry

don't use that key combo

Derpy

@user1306322 green tea.... bags?

user1306322

what bags? who said anything about bags?

did you see the metal filter spoon in my cup?

loose leaves only

packeted teas are bad

unless you've packeted them at home or those are some restaurant grade teas but then I gotta ask where you got dat money to buy it regularly

also I dare you to find pu erh in a bag

Magisch

@user1306322 restaurant grade tea is actually sold by the restaurant here and not much more expensive then normal tea in the grocery store

Like 3.50 for 20 packets vs 2.50 for 20 packets or smth

user1306322

well it might be just 2-3 times more expensive if you go for something like Althaus

and it's alright quality too

but I've had better luck with loose leaved teas every time

Magisch

Even if its 3 times as expensive. Normal tea costs like 2.50 for 20 packets. Even 7.50 for 20 packets of tea make for a very cheap drink compared to e.g soda

user1306322

10:48 AM

well, if you go purely by monetary value, you can make an argument that 1 packet of cheap tea is so fucking intense you can make ~750ml of tea from one, which is enough for 2.5 of my regular big cups

but that's insane

who makes that tea so intense

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell hah, maybe?

user1306322

it's like a chifir if you make it in a 150ml plastic or paper cup you can find in offices and pour 95 degrees water from the boiler

I guess it's so nobody complains that the tea is weak or watered down but yea it's not for people with taste buds

Magisch

tbh I'm a major tea scrub. I boil a can of water, insert 2 packets, let it sit for 10 minutes, and retrieve my 1.5L can of tea for the day

user1306322

well

water is also a super important part of making tea OR coffee

or beer

if you're into brewing

Magisch

I almost exclusively drink tapwater or stuff made from tapwater

I have a machine to carbonate it for me even because that's cheaper

user1306322

10:51 AM

some people filter tap water and mineralize it with mineral mix bags if you're talking about medium amounts of homebrew production

I buy artesian bottled water every 4-5 months delivered to my home

I've tried all the artesian water I could get my hands on, found the best and now that's what I get

went through about 40 different labels, so it's not an insurmountable task but took me 1.5 months to figure out the leaders and pick the top brand

Magisch

I'm not a tea buff or anything, I just gulp tea instead of coffee in the office

Because coffee tastes awful

user1306322

well, coffee can also be made differently

I'm not a coffee person coz real coffee makes my body hurt but I know a couple things about that too

like you should grind beans and brew them immediately

don't buy pre-ground beans

don't store ground beans as they will oxidize and ruin the flavor

you can also roast the green beans at home in an oven

Magisch

The options for coffee at my office is one 4 year old tab brewing machine where you insert coffee pads and get out coffee in ~30s

user1306322

there's got to be a coffee shop in every major city which sells superior quality fresh beans <2 months old from the plantations

that's the most praised source of coffee from what I've read

also if you don't service the office coffee machine you might wanna not think about it ever

coz it probably has mold in the water container or the pipes inside

every time I've checked people said "well... thanks..." and thought it was better not to know they've been drinking bog filth for years in this office

talk about why coffee tastes bad at work

Magisch

most people here drink coffee to stay awake or out of habit (they get sleepy when they dont)

user1306322

10:56 AM

this is also why I like tea

you have all the parts in plain sight at all times, especially if you have a glass cup

I can't argue about the effects as I've not measured them but from what I've heard the coffee gives an energy boost early in the morning and then you're wasted after 3 pm coz it's all gone by then

and tea is like a slow burner

idk

I've been drinking tea every day, at least 1 cup, on average 3-4 cups for like 15 years

and for people who have been drinking coffee for as long are probably immune to the dramatic energy release in their own way

I haven't stumbled upon any studies like that

I've found studies on metal poisoning effects and how energy storing in cells is impeded and you feel severe weakness bordering with death but nothing dramatic like that for coffee :p

but

I know some people drink hella coffee with loads of sugar and like 15 strong cups a day

I know huge portions of sugar makes your brain hurt for like an hour after intake

and I'm not sure about the effects of so many cups of strong coffee every day

but yea might be a good idea to not drink such an intense drink all day

Magisch

Also consider that ~60mg of caffeine per cup * 10 cups a day makes for quite the daily caffeine intake if you maintain it for years

user1306322

tea I make is pretty weak and most people find it watery, but I think it's just perfect for drawing out the flavors I like in each of my favorite sorts

sure sometimes I want a stronger cup so I make pu erh

and maybe add some condensed milk to it or a spoon of buckwheat honey

@Magisch well, I also don't know about the effects of that much caffeine

like how much it "much"?

and the fact that everyone and their mother seems to remind each other that tea actually contains more of these "caffeines/theins" than coffee, what do we really know

maybe there is not notable effect or maybe the BIG COFFEE is conspiring against us to hide the horrors so their profits don't drop :D

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek Well, in the mean time I've been writing an answer, so hopefully I'll get a little closer to it today :p

user1306322

but yea nestle is a fucking gigantic corporation and it has its hands in water and powder chow for babies, not exactly the beacon of righteousness

maybe such a conspiracy actually exi-

Somewhat Memorable Name

Last time I read, there's fast caffeine metabolism and slow one...

user1306322

11:18 AM

yea and people are so different in their body types and digestion rates

basically you can only figure out these things for yourself by experimenting

Journeyman Geek

@Tinkeringbell I think meta's the next one. And I seem to be getting rep pretty quick

user1306322

if you wanna try cold brew coffee, buy a couple canned coffees and put em in the fridge

compare and tell me what you think :p

Tinkeringbell

@JourneymanGeek If we keep having feedback posts on stuff, I might keep gaining rep pretty quick too ;)

Somewhat Memorable Name

I guess the next one is... "We have updated our CoC" meta post.

Derpy

@user1306322 sorry, was AFK for a while

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

11:30 AM

I drink tea once on a given day, and I remain awake until 4:30 AM on that day.

Somewhat Memorable Name

Apaprently, GitHub Issue is the way out to avoid getting downvote when giving feedback about CoC...

Sonic the Inclusive Hedgehog

@Tinkeringbell Even more if you are the first one to post. Example: I own the top-voted answer on one of Joe Friend's posts. FGITW

Derpy

Prime days have started

Sadly, the Kuratas isn't on sale

rene

11:55 AM

in SO Close Vote Reviewers on Stack Overflow Chat, 2 hours ago, by rene

I somehow assumed this day was a prime number, much like PI-day

Derpy

@rene good. You focused on the prime thing and didn't ask what a Kuratas is.

rene

Does that make me a bad flower?

Tinkeringbell

@rene I always thought prime days were those days from your youth where you were in your prime?

@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Meh. I wrote a very well scoring MSE answer twice, and both times I really wasn't the FGITW ;) I'm fine with not being the top answer ;)

rene

@Tinkeringbell were? I'm still alive ... how rude ...

Tinkeringbell

@rene Yeah but somehow prime days are always in the past... I'd love to know if I'm in my prime days now, because if I am, I am wasting them :P

Shadow Wizard

12:10 PM

@Derpy smart strategy: make people buy things they don't need just by selling them cheap.

@Tinkeringbell allure.com/story/when-is-amazon-prime-day-date-time

Tinkeringbell

I don't use amazon enough to consider getting Prime ;)

Shadow Wizard

\ם

heh, close enough. Not editing. :D

Tinkeringbell

Hahaha that looks like you hit your head :D

Shadow Wizard

you see small square-like character?

That's a Hebrew letter

Tinkeringbell

With a rounded corner yeah ;) I thought as much :)

Shadow Wizard

12:24 PM

@Tinkeringbell hmm? Screenshot?

Tinkeringbell

rene

Now I hope it isn't an insult ....

... doesn't look like it ...

... we're all good

Tinkeringbell

I'd have had a major tantrum if I got in trouble because Shadow made me repost an insult! :P

Shadow Wizard

12:40 PM

rofl

@Tinkeringbell yup that's the letter

Mem (Hebräisch)

Mem (מם) ist der dreizehnte Buchstabe im Hebräischen Alphabet. Er hat den Zahlenwert 40. Steht der Buchstabe am Schluss eines Wortes, wird er als Finalbuchstabe anders geschrieben. Diese Schreibweise wird manchmal für den Zahlenwert 600 verwendet. == Geschichte == Das hebräische Mem geht auf den gleichen Ursprung zurück wie das phönizische Mem, aus dem sich das griechische My und das lateinische M entwickelten. == Beispiele == משה Moshe: Moses משיח mashíah = der Gesalbte: Messias מתושלח Metushélah: Methusalem מים mayim: Wasser == Zeichenkodierung == == Weblinks… ==

Tinkeringbell

Oh weird. So the letter changes depending on whether it's at the end of a word or not?

In the examples it seems like it's the first letter that changes?

Shadow Wizard

@Tinkeringbell yeah, but not all letters. We got only 5 of those.

Derpy

evil plot of the day: convincing some unknowingly victim into playing Darkest Dungeon

Shadow Wizard

> Allowing a hero to reach an extremely high stress level can cause them to have a heart attack, bringing them to the brink of death if not immediately tended to.

What a nice game. :D

@Tinkeringbell first of what?

Tinkeringbell

12:56 PM

@ShadowWizard First letter of the word? Or my German is messed up, but I think I'm reading that the shape of the letter changes if it's the last letter... yet on the examples, for water, it's the first letter that actually has the changed shape...

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