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8:01 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body: Requesting interviews with bitcoin entrepreneurs by Oskar Kader on bitcoin.SE

Fabby

@user1271772 :D

Link?

rene

please no

user1271772

meta.stackexchange.com/posts/312303/revisions

rene

le sigh

Magisch

8:03 PM

yknow what, no. I had a nice friday evening so far. Peace out.

Shog9

@user1271772 looks like he's trying to be sensitive to your concerns. Good for him.

Somewhat Memorable Name

@SmokeDetector f

user1271772

Yes I was not complaining

I was happy that he finally did that

Somewhat Memorable Name

Good, and I hope we can end this discussion since now...

user1271772

since now?

Somewhat Memorable Name

8:06 PM

I'm not a native English speaker. And it's 3am right now.

πάντα ῥεῖ

Monty Python- No. 1, The Larch

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user1271772

Oh okay, good night!

Tinkeringbell

@SomewhatMemorableName at that time, I usually start considering just staying awake ;)

Shadow Wizard

@Loong well, here is exists... but not very common yet. (so far restricted mainly to premium brands which also costs a LOT, e.g. Lindt)

user1271772

It's 3am in Thailand

canon

8:09 PM

I'd like to personally flag my account as, "Will not make an attempt to sugar coat anything." And allow other users to filter out my content based on that setting... and allow me to filter out users based on whether they'll accept that kind of engagement.

Shadow Wizard

@canon it's not flag, it's categorize. And... interesting idea! :D

Fabby

@user1271772 Saw a mistake. Needed correction. Forgot I have to make at least a 6 character edit here...

/shrug

Tinkeringbell

@canon just set your country of origin to Netherlands :P... Honestly though, interesting thought

Not very workable I guess... But interesting

user1271772

@Fabby: i don't understand your last comment, which you tagged me in

Fabby

Sorry.

Shog9

8:11 PM

@canon that just sets up bad expectations

rene

@Tinkeringbell don't give away all secrets ..

Fabby

stuff probably scrolled up while I was replying

canon

Nobody should be punished for dead-pan delivery. If it's such a problem, make it opt-in.

Shog9

it's the same problem with adding a "newbie" flag to profiles. How do you ensure that everyone who needs it sets it?

Catija

Monty Python's Argument Clinic

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Fabby

8:12 PM

Too late!

Anne Daunted

@Shog9 It's the default setting - those who are not new, know how to change it

Shadow Wizard

@Catija if you want, feel free to hop into this room, user1271772 wants to hear your opinions as well I think, and don't know how to invite you directly.

Shog9

@AnneDaunted that's a "new to the site" flag then.

Catija

@ShadowWizard I'm in there already.

Shadow Wizard

@Catija oh

you kept silent so I didn't notice.

Catija

8:16 PM

Nothing to say.

canon

@Shog9 Not necessarily. There could be long-time users who prefer to discard brass tacks help. For new users, a little banner or tooltip for, "You may be missing input from experts due to your settings." Could be helpful. Still...

Tinkeringbell

@rene What? You mean the stroopwafels, the cheese or the tulips should've been kept secret? What about hagelslag en belgenmoppen?

rene

Yes, and the wooden clogs we walk on ...

Shog9

@canon y'know there are... hundreds of thousands of people on Stack Overflow...

canon

without an account? yeah :P

Shog9

8:18 PM

folks post answers without even creating accounts, yes

Tinkeringbell

@rene archaeologist me still owns a pair of those XD

rene

I've only used the ones from my grand-dad

Tinkeringbell

They also quantify as a certain category of working shoes with reinforced noses... Safe enough for digging. And the profile-less sole means you don't leave very nasty footprints on a flat surface ;)

canon

@Shog9 treat those with the same type of kid-gloves or avoidance.

Fabby

@Tinkeringbell Didn't even have to look where you're from... ;-)

Tinkeringbell

8:19 PM

@Fabby It's not exactly secret XD

Fabby

I didn't know, is all, but profile confirmed my suspicion... :D

Shog9

@canon so I sign up to SO, and decide I want only carefully-worded feedback... And so I check the

what'd you call it?

sugar box

that's not right

John Dvorak

adult gloves

Shog9

I check the "only carefully-worded feedback please" box

and... someone finds my question on Google and posts an answer that's brusque

Fabby

@Shog9 That'll mean you'll never get an answer from me is all...

Shog9

8:21 PM

"well, that checkbox was useless" I think

Fabby

@Shog9 They can't: Only people who have the kids gloves attribute can answer.

Shog9

@Fabby oh, so we're disabling unregistered answers too?

Fabby

@Shog9 On those users?

Shog9

what about all the people who signed up before today

Fabby

Yes!

Shog9

8:22 PM

essentially, we turn this feature on and it's an opt-in hell-ban

Fabby

@Shog9 You make'em take a mandatory test

Shog9

that's like... the worst kind of superficial solution

John Dvorak

@Shog9 which is exactly why people don't like the NCoC

Shog9

"This way to see the Egress and also polite responses"

Fabby

I would be happy to be in the "rude and obnoxious" category just to ensure I don't offend anyone through ~~sheer stupidity~~ imperfect knowledge of the English language...

Tinkeringbell

8:23 PM

@Fabby you know the worst ways to be rude are when you know what's considered polite :P.

John Dvorak

same here

Tinkeringbell

So a test... Is easily faked and makes it easier to be even more rude

Fabby

@Tinkeringbell Being so polite it's rude?

Most people don't get that... (Been there, did that, worked in the UK)

Shog9

@Fabby I know I'm going to offend people anyway, so messing around with categories is just pointless

Anne Daunted

What about "nicety" audits - you see a "new" badly worded question and get the chance to write a comment

Shog9

8:25 PM

either I learn to handle situations where I've offended someone, or I learn to live with people being offended.

Fabby

@Shog9 Good idea! If you take "rude and obnoxious" you don't have tu take the test!!!

:-) :-) :-)

Shog9

@Fabby so what happens when you check the box and find that folks are upset with you anyway?

Fabby

Leave it up to the users how they want to be treated.

Tinkeringbell

@Fabby That's another thing... And yeah, I get that people being too polite is annoying

Fabby

@Shog9 That ups your troll score...

Everyone has 2 kinds of reps:

Knowledge rep, troll rep.

Shog9

8:26 PM

so we've essentially designed Reddit

Kevin B

🚽

Fabby

Problem solved!

Somewhat Memorable Name

🔥

rene

reddit.se

John Dvorak

I still maintain that the problem SE is oh so eagerly trying to solve ... isn't actually a problem

Fabby

8:27 PM

@Shog9 Believe me or not, I've never used Reddit, but I believe you...

Kevin B

i mean... maybe the problem they are trying to solve isn't actually the one that they appear to be trying to solve.

Fabby

@JohnDvorak You've never been to the US, have you???

Somewhat Memorable Name

Stack Exchange: where we collect the best content from Wikipedia, Quora, Reddit, and sometimes Twitter.

Shog9

@Fabby here's your introduction to Reddit (may not be SFW)

John Dvorak

I haven't, and I probably never will

Fabby

8:28 PM

Thank you!!!

canon

@Shog9 You could add a similar field for anonymous users posting answers. That doesn't necessarily have to be bound to an account... it could be hoisted up to the Post itself

Fabby

@Shog9 It's been weekend for wa while now...

canon

Where Post.SugarCoated is null, refer to User.SugarCoated

Shog9

@canon right. I'm posting anonymously because I like filling in forms, eh?

canon

otherwise use what's stored with the post

@Shog9 It's a checkbox, for pity's sake. Still, I'll make a meta post about it at some point unless someone beats me to it. We can argue its merits there.

Shog9

8:31 PM

...why do folks always say "it's just a checkbox" when discussing these options, as if the objection was that checkboxes are hard.

I mean... If it was radio buttons you'd have a point, because damn I never get those right the first time.

canon

The particular objection I was referencing was, roughly, "As an anonymous user, I don't like filling in forms."

John Dvorak

You're already filling in a form when asking

Shog9

You're asked for a name & email, and both can be fake

Fabby

Damn! Shog beat me to my point!

Shog9

the entire point of unregistered posting is to entice folks to answer stuff they know without committing to anything

as soon as you make it complicated, that goes away

Catija

8:33 PM

Also useful on sites that are more ... personal.

canon

I don't know that answers are really the target here anyway

it's comments

Fabby

@Shog9 nope, it doesn't

canon

and anonymous users can't comment anyhow

Shog9

the goal should always be, "what's the least information we can get away with asking for here?"

Fabby

@Shog9 They can only answer to thick-skinned ugly Vorlons like me!

Shog9

8:34 PM

name is displayed on the post, so gotta ask for that. email is in case you ever want to own your post, so gotta ask for that. But neither one needs to be verified.

Fabby

If we want to be a happier place to be, we need a troll score...

John Dvorak

If they're scared at the prospect of someone knowing their fake ID, we can also assume they only want to see nice comments.

Fabby

independent from rep score

Shog9

now imagine a "tone of your answer" checkbox. How do you expect folks to even know what that means?

Somewhat Memorable Name

"happy answer" checkbox

canon

8:35 PM

[ x ] Mildly combatitive.

Fabby

KISS: 4 options.
1. I'm a troll
2. I'm a bad person
3. I'm a good person
4. I'm a unicorn

Catija

@Shog9 Like that job posting sentiment analysis thing?

Shadow Wizard

@Shog9 cool! With those emoticons used in the Comment Evaluator 5000?

Catija

I forget what it's called. :/

Shog9

Like... We got folks from all over the world participating here. It's a crapshoot as to whether the full CoC can adequately convey the idea of constructive participation in a way that's gonna make sense to folks from the US, France, Germany, that weird place with the sprinkle sandwiches that half this room comes from, etc.

Fabby

8:37 PM

:D :D :D

Shadow Wizard

@Fabby remind me what the extra "S" is for? (apart of being catchy term)

Fabby

Keep It Simply Stupid

Shadow Wizard

Keep It Simple [???]

Somewhat Memorable Name

@ShadowWizard "Smart"

Shadow Wizard

oh lol

John Dvorak

8:37 PM

( ) Direct and informative
(o) Informative, but also reassuring of good intentions.

Shadow Wizard

wait

Catija

@ShadowWizard ... depends on who you ask... silly/stupid.

canon

This goes back to a conversation we had years ago about compound content qualification.

Shadow Wizard

Keep It Simple Smart??

Shog9

Keep It Simple, Stuart

Shadow Wizard

8:38 PM

hehehee

canon

Allowing people to specify multiple qualities/deficiencies of a post or comment

Fabby

@JohnDvorak Not enough radio buttons... I still like mine better...

Shog9

I don't know who Stuart is, or why they keep making everything hard, but... Dammit, Stuart...

Anne Daunted

KISS

Fabby

Nah, that's Murphy, not Stuart!

John Dvorak

8:39 PM

Great. Now we can't even explain common acronyms without risking flags.

canon

and over time building profiles such that you could say, "90% people from Ecuador find you terse. 99% of those users find you helpful."

Shadow Wizard

canon

but, you know... time... engagement

pipe dream

Fabby

@JohnDvorak Huh? did you get flagged?

Somewhat Memorable Name

I don't know what's the result of this competition by SO...

Fabby

8:40 PM

@ShadowWizard :D :D :D (which you've seen like 5 times and heard... 15 times already???)-

Shadow Wizard

@Fabby he usually does

@Fabby actually no... my kids didn't want to see that movie. :/

They did watch Minions though. :D

John Dvorak

@SomewhatMemorableName that overview is severely outdated

Fabby

@ShadowWizard Shog9 is actually a nice guy. It's the community managers who tell him what to do and how to do it that need a management course...

0:-) 0:-) 0:-)

Shadow Wizard

@Fabby no, but here on tavern messages about kissing out of context can be flagged.

Fabby

Djeez, louise!

Shadow Wizard

8:42 PM

@TelKitty became famous for ranting here after being chat banned on other sites when posting "pussy" word, referring, well, to her pussycats.

To this day can't really tell if she really meant that, or trolled on purpose....lol

rene

yes

Shadow Wizard

So she indeed was Troll Queen. Nice.

Shog9

@SomewhatMemorableName everyone lost, because we still couldn't predict closed questions accurately

Fabby

Yeah, but puszy in Hungarian is "kiss on cheek" (Sounds exactly the same as the English word though)

Shog9

IIRC, we kinda didn't provide a good dataset either

Shadow Wizard

8:44 PM

@Fabby cough.. he's a Community Manager and nobody tells him what to do.... ;)

Shog9

...y'all are constantly telling me what to do

John Dvorak

Shog9 is a strong and independent community manager

Anne Daunted

@ShadowWizard Shog is The Man?

Catija

Telling or asking?

Shog9

is there a difference?

Fabby

8:45 PM

@Shog9 Never let anyone tell you what to do unless they pay you!

Catija

I should hope so.

Fabby

We're just spewing ideas...

Anne Daunted

@Catija neither, begging

Shadow Wizard

@AnneDaunted no, he's The Floating Head

rene

@Fabby we better collect money then ....

John Dvorak

8:46 PM

It's a male head though

Shadow Wizard

@rene kickstarter?

@JohnDvorak so?

Head is a head.

rene

@ShadowWizard good idea

Shadow Wizard

@rene project name?

Catija

@AnneDaunted imploring?

Somewhat Memorable Name

@JohnDvorak was that a reference to a certain Ninja game?

Fabby

8:47 PM

@ShadowWizard Well, I still owe Joel Spolsky a bottle of Champagne, so next time when I'm in New York, I'm going to drop it on his desk together with my rep chart...

John Dvorak

no

Catija

Seems he's in China right now?

Anne Daunted

@Catija if it helps - did it ever?

Fabby

@ShadowWizard "Make StackExchange a happy place!" CC @rene

Catija

Sometimes groveling helps...

But sometimes it's just annoying.

@Fabby Swag for everyone!!!

Shadow Wizard

8:49 PM

@Fabby you.... what??!

Fabby

@Catija Good one!!!

Anne Daunted

Positive Thinking: Stack Exchange - The Happiest Place on Earth

Shadow Wizard

@Fabby already taken. Alternative?

Fabby

@ShadowWizard I have to dig up the question: my first post on mmeta.

Catija

@AnneDaunted Isn't that already copyrighted/trademarked?

Fabby

8:50 PM

(got downvoted into oblivion)

Anne Daunted

@Catija :-)

Shadow Wizard

-1

Q: Increase close reasons from 400 to 512 characters?

The what is clear: To allow the entire StackExchange network to be inherently a little bit more polite while remaining helpful. The how is clear: To extend the Off-Topic Close Reasons by 112 characters. The simple question is: What does it take to make this happen? The long question: At the ...

Fabby

^^What anne said:

Shog9

Stack Exchange - The 74th Happiest Place on Earth

Fabby

@ShadowWizard Djeez, you're good.

Somewhat Memorable Name

8:50 PM

Still better than 75th...

Fabby

I thought I deleted it...

Shadow Wizard

> me flying into NY and banging a magnum bottle of Champagne on Joel Spolsky's desk?

LOL

Fabby

@ShadowWizard Yup... One day I'll do it!

Shadow Wizard

@Fabby some say I'm good with search... meta.stackexchange.com/… :D

Catija

Being a digital environment, does it still count as "on Earth"?

Anne Daunted

8:52 PM

So let's make it: The Happiest Place on the Internet

Somewhat Memorable Name

But to make Stack Exchange a happy place, the participants should not have any problems in the first place... including the asker

Shog9

@ShadowWizard man I get sick of these people showing up and demanding the site be more polite. Who's this guy think he is to suggest those close reasons aren't polite?

Anne Daunted

(maybe add as a qualifier: according to quora question (still to be asked))

Shadow Wizard

@Catija sure, all the wires and data are on Earth.

canon

@Shog9 was anyone any good at determining what should have been closed?

Catija

8:53 PM

I thought it was a cloud. :P

Fabby

@ShadowWizard And 2500$ in cash for a management course for whoever wants to reverse this

Shog9

@canon I honestly don't remember

Shadow Wizard

@Catija still part of Earth!

canon

aww

Fabby

.

Catija

8:53 PM

... "on" implies "on the surface" I don't think clouds are on the surface. :P

Shadow Wizard

@Fabby you're too slow! Next time copy the link before posting the first message. :D

canon

because there are all sorts of questions that should be closed but the close vote never reaches critical mass

Fabby

@ShadowWizard I need to post it before I can copy the link...

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Smoke! BRB...

Shadow Wizard

@Fabby 2500 is... nothing. Start with 250000 and you might have a chance. :P

Shog9

@canon Yeah, but the problem with deciding this based on only the text of the question itself is... There are an awful lot of questions that look kinda lousy, but are really useful. So it's like trying to pick high-quality Wikipedia pages based on what the stub looks like.

user1271772

8:56 PM

@Fabby: You say your first meta post was downvoted to oblivion, but it only has a net vote of -2. How many downvotes did it get?

Somewhat Memorable Name

+30/-32

user1271772

So it's possible to recover? Mine's at -27 right now

canon

@Shog9 ah

user1271772

Somewhat, I thought you were going to sleep because it's 3am in Thailand

Shadow Wizard

@user1271772 "recover" isn't really correct word. And no.. can't see a -27 question getting to 0. But it doesn't really mean anything.

user1271772

8:59 PM

A -32 bcome a +30, so maybe it's possible for a -27 to become -25

canon

it's tough to fight momentum like that

user1271772

Can you help me?

Shadow Wizard

@user1271772 no.... it was never pure -32.

John Dvorak

We can't convince people to support the idea of kicking out pro-tems after a year.

canon

@user1271772 That depends. Will you accept help if we're vaguely condescending about it?

user1271772

9:01 PM

@JohnDvorak: this is the problem !! I was never trying to do that! Rene and Glorfindel just made it look like I did and that's how the downvote momentum started!

John Dvorak

Disagreed big time

Shadow Wizard

@user1271772 you can see it in the timeline: meta.stackexchange.com/posts/247169/timeline

Fabby

@ShadowWizard 2500$ is enough for a one-day management course...

Shadow Wizard

On its first day, @Fabby's first question had +17/-15

Fabby

@user1271772 I didn't know what I was doing and I don't have anough rep yet to see down/upvotes...

Catija

9:03 PM

@user1271772 Your question is a feature request specifically saying that pro-tems should be changed every x months/years.

Fabby

I remember starting with 100 rep and ending up negative...

Tinkeringbell

I'll make a better offer. For $2599 you'll get a half hour management course and a free beer.

Fabby

@ShadowWizard Ah... Thanks...

Didn't know...

Shadow Wizard

:)

user1271772

@ShadowWizard: I don't know what I'm looking for in the timeline

Fabby

9:04 PM

@Tinkeringbell Really? :(

user1271772

Are you saying it started out with a lot of + votes then became -32 later?

Fabby

Well, 25.000 is a long way away...

@user1271772 No, I got a lot of downvotes is all.

Somewhat Memorable Name

It started with +17/-15, and ending with +30/-32

Fabby

Can't remember the upvotes: I was young and only had 100 rep...

never had -15 since I joined on anything...

user1271772

I'm young and only have 100 rep

Somewhat Memorable Name

9:05 PM

A textboox example of "controversial post"

Tinkeringbell

@Fabby yep :P. Consider all the free time you don't have to spend on a boring management class, but can spend on drinking another beer (at your own costs, of course! :P)

Kevin B

i don't recall getting a lot of negative votes on my questions initially

but now look at them

Fabby

I remember ~~bitching and moaning~~ whining and complaining about it in AU chat...

... I think I got a lot of sympathy votes from there...

Kevin B

uhm... my "questions" tab shows one of my questions from 2013 as my newest question, with a date in 2017

under the "newest" sorted tab

Fabby

I was actually surprised I got a lot of upvotes on the "anyone can ping anyone in chat"

Shadow Wizard

9:07 PM

@user1271772 the " daily summary" parts.

Kevin B

Ah, the dates it is listing is last activity... that's really misleading

i'd expect the "newest" tab to show the date posted!

Fabby

@Shog9 What decade are you in then? >:-) Only after half a century are you officially ~~an old fart~~ old...

(well: in my book anyway)

Catija

Web definition of "old" means anyone over 18.

Fabby

Remember giving dad a BD card for his 50th birthday: Congratulations with your half century!

(he was not amused)

(also gave him a congratulations for your 2^6 for his 64th)

Shadow Wizard

6

Q: Confusion about Date/Time shown on profile's activity questions tab (sorted by newest)

When I go to the questions tab (sorted by newest) under my profile's activity page and look through all the questions that I have asked so far, I noticed that my very first asked question's relative-time shows "11 hours ago" and the timestamp (hover over) displays "2015-07-16 03:17:39Z" (Please n...

discussion support profile-page sorting

Kevin B

9:12 PM

seems wrong, but meh, is the way it is

Shadow Wizard

yup

Fabby

Meh indeed...

Shadow Wizard

To this day many "weird" user experience decisions made by Jeff exist, most likely they would do it in a different day if done today, but... as @Fabby said.. "meh". :)

Fabby

If it's documented, it's a feature!

- Bill Gates -

Shadow Wizard

lol

Fabby

9:15 PM

I'm old enough to remember being able to call Bill Gates...

Anyway, I need a smoke and a drink! It's way past Beer O' Clock.

user1271772

You called Bill Gates?

Fabby

I accidentally called Bill Gates, yes...

Shadow Wizard

rofl

user1271772

In which year did that happen?

Fabby

@user1271772 Early 90s (90? 91?)

Narusan

9:28 PM

Is there a query that tells one how many posts need reviewing for close votes (as all the posts I've reviewed get omitted

user1271772

More recent than I thought!

I thought maybe 80s

Fabby

@user1271772 Nah...

@Narusan It shows in the "all queues" without a query...

user1271772

@Fabby "as early as 1981 an industry executive complained in public that "Gates is notorious for not being reachable by phone and for not returning phone calls."[57]"

Fabby

@user1271772 Ah, but I did a group call.

So here's the story:

I was still a dev back then and my company was the only one outside of the US that was a beta-tester for something called "Microsoft Mail" (the predecessor of Exchange and Outlook)

And as we spoke like 7 languages amongst 3 devs, we were given a lot of support and one of them was to be able to call the dev group...

so on a FR-night local time, I called the dev group and could hear the phone system switching to another group and another and another...

and finally after >40 rings, this guy picks up and I told him what my problem was and if he could help me...

He told me: "I'm the last one in the building"

I apologised, asked him how it was being a security guard in the Microsoft HQ and got a chuckle and a response:

"I'm not a security guard, I'm Bill Gates"

Me "Yeah, sure you sound a lot like Bill Gates, but anyway, I wish you a fantastic evening and a great week-end"

Next Monday, I called one of the devs and told him the story...

His response: well, you called our group number and if you let that number ring long enough, all the phones in the entire building start ringing

So it's possible it was him, because he's mostly the last person to leave on a Friday...

@user1271772 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

user1271772

9:45 PM

I'm surprised there's no one working all night!

It is an awesome story!

But I usually work until 3am at least, and it doesn't matter if it's Friday or Saturday or Christmas, I just work when I am not asleep, and a lot of people in the software industry are similar right?

Fabby

@user1271772 It was about 3 AM local time, but much earlier in WA...

user1271772

Yea, so people in WA should have still been working!

Fabby

My personal record is 45h straight... (includes 2.5h travel to the Data Centre in Amsterdam and 2.5h back)

user1271772

You have a very large AskUbuntu score for a guy that's been on the phone with William Gates :)

Fabby

@user1271772 Look at my profile...

As my experience with Linux is not as extensive as the other OSes I know, I'm trying to find interesting questions which I know quite a bit about under other OSes and try to wrap my head around looking at it from the Linux side.

user1271772

9:48 PM

I guess that's what I was doing in order to see that you have such a large AskUbuntu score

Oh I see !!

Fabby

@user1271772 Yeah, but you missed the bold above...

Back when Micro$oft still gave individuals credit for posting something in their KB, I had quite a few KB arrticles in my name... (without being a Microsofft employee!)

I just opened a ticket and then immediately posted the answer (like Q&A here nowadays) and closed the ticket...

If someone thought it was a good one for the KB, it got transferred, first name and last name and all

user1271772

I don't even know what KB is, Knowledge Base ?

Fabby

@user1271772 yup.

user1271772

I looked at your AskUbuntu profile and saw that one of the links was a different color from the rest, turns out I had clicked on "What's a good back-up strategy for 1 desktop PC?" before !!

Fabby

(sorry, in another chat as that story just killed the room here... Everyone's afraid to talk to me because I once called Bill Gates...)

user1271772

9:59 PM

So KB was like their version of a UserNet or Stack Exchange, in the early 90s?

Fabby

:D ;-) :D

@user1271772 Lemme see if the site still exists

Dead: kb.microsoft.com

Still exists: support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/242450/…

@user1271772 :D :D :D

That's one of my better ones...

The best I like this one:

this one especially looking at the question and my edits

That's the one I'm mostly proud of.

user1271772

10:14 PM

That's a good one! I upvoted !!!

Fabby

thanks!

Literal square root!

user1271772

Wow! I now looked at the edits! Basically, the OP should not be getting the points for all the upvotes since the edits. There should come a point at which "any new upvotes going to the question go to Fabby"

Since you basically repaired the question

Fabby

@user1271772 It even spawned a meta question

lemme look that one up...

35

Q: How to responsibly direct users with serious mental health issues?

I am not talking about people with borderline personality or spectrum disorder issues (like rudeness), rather behaviours like paranoia and depression. A recent question on Ask Ubuntu highlighted that I just don't know how to safely deal with some personality traits. It was a long and extremely...

discussion moderation community

user1271772

Nice that you got it un-deleted!

Fabby

10:31 PM

:-)

You're a physicist???

user1271772

Yes

Fabby

Quantum optics is a dead give-away...

I'm a chemist, but never worked as one. (excluding summer jobs)

user1271772

The programming (use of stack overflow) is mainly for when I'm doing calculations

Fabby

@user1271772 Except for simulators, are there any Quantum computers nowadays?

Who's furthest ahead?

Which TZ are you in? (Just to know when you'll stop responding)

CET or GMT apparently...

user1271772

I'm currently in London, England. The biggest "quantum calculator" which can do some calculations but is not Turing universal has 2048 qubits (it's called the D-Wave 2000Q and is their 4th commercial quantum computer). The biggest "quantum computer" which can do universal quantum computation, is IBM's 50-qubit quantum computer. Google claims to have a 72-qubit universal quantum computer, which they announced at the APS conference, but there is no evidence that it exists.

Narusan

10:51 PM

@Fabby no, it doesn't

Or at least that number's zero and the red dot is still there

How is Happy Hour starting at like 1am on Friday?!

Shog9

7 minutes from now is 5PM where I'm at

Mountain Time == Real Time

Catija

Shog standard time... though, in the winter it's 6 pm...

Shog9

You should contact your public officials, and request that they adjust your local timezone to reflect Real Time

Then you, like me, could be preparing to crack open an ice-cold can of Busch and Enjoy Summer Right

Narusan

We reflect Univeral Time though

Shog9

unless it's winter where you're at. In which case, you should talk to your officials about that too.

Narusan

10:56 PM

I already have signed the petition for the abolishment of winter (apart for skiing business), but so far my local legislation hasn't reacted. 0/10 would not vote again

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Q: Refocusing from Health to Medical Sciences

I've talked with the moderators (as foreshadowed), consulted the rest of the community team and listened to users on meta about the difficulties faced by a site called "Health". The general consensus is that we would be better off with a site like the proposed Medical Sciences site. Unfortunately...

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Shamelessly asking for an update about this (wrote an email to Jon a few days ago as well, with no response). Just a little "haven't forgot about it, this is where we're at" would be nice

Shog9

Jon's on vacation

so... gonna be a few weeks probably

Narusan

ah, okay. Thanks for the info

Happy Happy Hour, I'll retire

Shog9

cheers!

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