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12:06 AM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog If your bounty was just a test, want it back?
@ArtOfCode No, keep it there
Rep on Teams is meaningless
3 hours later…
3:07 AM
Can someone migrate stackoverflow.com/questions/50356269/… to CS.SE?
I flagged a mod
You'd need a mod ;p
(Well technically or enough people with migrate votes if its a target)
Yup, totally needs a mod
Assuming that's a valid user migration target...
It isn't
Probably why the question is here... CMs are sort of mods. :P
Well sort of but they typically don't step into things like this?
3:17 AM
No. Certainly not...
and RC seems like an even better migration target but beta so that's not really a recommended option.
4:02 AM
@Feeds deja vu
oh, and err... morning?
5:00 AM
5:13 AM
I actually wanted a response from SE about this: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/309913/…
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Why? I understand reporting it when it's occurring but why when it's over and back to normal?
Because there was no post-mortem report.
5:53 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Links to documentation in comments? by Girija on softwareengineering.SE
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog while good practice, stuff like that is for major incidents - not every single minor issue
6:14 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: What is the difference between CISM and CISA Certification? by user386948 on mathoverflow.net
@SmokeDetector f
@JourneymanGeek that latest SD report is no spam for me and the question kind of ask for these answers. Am I right?
7:02 AM
only two more
@rene looks borderline.
@rene deleted as a link only answer. I should comment but eh. On my phone
7:24 AM
@JourneymanGeek okay
7:40 AM
oh, the joy of holding the Converter and then getting Guppy's Pawn in an item room...
@JourneymanGeek SE said they were working on one though
8:01 AM
I don't see it there. This isn't the big outage of a few days back
8:12 AM
@PrincessLuna I believe the one that SE investigated was about full storage that affected the whole SO.chat, SE.chat, and SF .chat , not a single user getting logged out...
@JourneymanGeek My one gripe with deleting link only answers, is that from a google seo perspective, you are deleting pure search engine gold.
I mean, search engines love that type of connectivity.
Human created content that shows a link between human grammar, and a web site.
It pains me sometimes to see them deleted for the sole reason that there isn't a preview. Honestly, if there were one boxing for link only answers, it would solve the whole problem.
@TravisJ Wouldn't really, the problem is that the information isn't on stack (or in that question) not that it's harder to get to
Links break all the time
If it is a link only answer with a broken link, then it should be deleted.
*with a broken link
8:24 AM
I agree that it should have more content than just the link, but is removing the link better than editing in the content?
I have found many deleted link only answers useful at Stack Overflow.
Isn't it ironic that in order to help the audience we would rather remove it entirely from them seeing it instead of editing it into place?
ideally, anything should be edited. failing that... deleted
@TravisJ I think the main problem is that links tend to not precisely answer a question. Often, when I encounter a link-only answer it is of the form "This 15 page document answers your question, somewhere". This simply isn't specific and makes it hard to evaluate the quality. If there is a short answer in the document, then write it out. If there isn't, the link isn't really a good fit as an answer.
"If you want to chat, go to Tavern on the Meta" vs "If you want to chat, go to that chat room"?
Your answer is probably on another castle
@Discretelizard It's true, the links are often not the best answer to a question. In fact, I would wager they are rarely the best answer and even less frequently accepted. However, that isn't to say they are useless.
8:34 AM
@TravisJ They can be useful, yes. But they simply aren't a good fit for this platform, I think. Similar to the case with questions: there are useful questions that aren't a good fit for the platform either.
@TravisJ I usually pair that up with a comment
@Discretelizard Or has our definition of "useful" strayed too far from what is actually of use?
@TravisJ sometimes you can fix up a post like that. This also kinda dosen't meet our standards for a software rec
Yeah... if it's useful, couldn't it be improved? Otherwise we're really just a replacer for search engine...
8:43 AM
@TravisJ Whether something is useful is mostly about the content. 'link-only' is a case of poor form that we usually don't tolerate, just like a post in French. Of course, it is the best to improve the form of the post if the content is useful. Unfortunately, the poor form makes it hard to check whether the content is useful.
If the content isn't useful, downvote it. I still don't see why the link would be removed unless it is completely unrelated to the topic. If the topic is simply generating a large amount of link only answers, then more than likely it is off topic.
must sleep, thanks for the thoughts @Discretelizard
Have a good night. And well, as I said, determining whether link only content is useful is hard when the content is somewhere in a 15 page document.
9:06 AM
@hey lately, this seems to apply to a lot of questions users have been making....
2 hours later…
10:36 AM
Q: Why did I not find out about the TOS change until now (two weeks later) and only from a Reddit post?

Steve314Apparently the Stack Exchange terms changed two weeks ago. According to this the change went live on the second of May, and e-mails should have been sent "in the days ahead". Well, it's now two weeks later. The only e-mail I received from Stack Exchange recently is the one advertising Stack Over...

^ to be fair.... did anyone receive any for of email based alert and/or notification on the site?
18 hours ago, by user1114
Evan had spread the Good Word of Opting across Reddit.
@Derpy Planned: yes. Factual: no.
6-8 weeks >> 30 days.
Don't get me wrong, but this is something that they should really start to consider.
> You’ll get one of those annoying emails about it in the days ahead, but we wanted to give you a heads-up about it here now. -- 5 May, Original ToS meta post
I haven't gotten one either
> Well, it's now two weeks later
-- The post I just linked above
10:45 AM
I wonder if the original meta post is even visible now that it's at -235 and not featured anymore?
Was the TOS change actually in effect?
I thought it was planned.
Effect since 2 May, based on the original meta post
“This change is live as of late 2018-05-02” – Don’t you need to at least notify all users via email of this change? — poke May 5 at 12:43
oh boy
I didn't follow the continuation meta post, so I might miss if there's any update if it's postponed...
@Derpy I didn't
10:58 AM
now that I read it more carefully, how dark is this?
> In related news, I think our lawyer might be plotting my demise, if anything happens to me his name is a. -- Tim Post
@hey very dark
but yes, come to think of it, I have received a few emails regarding change of ToS from services that I use, but not yet from SO...
won't comment on the joke/stress outburst there, sadly I'm not in the position to give that any brain cpu cycles now.
I'll still stand my original statement. I understand they are now surfing a sea of pain and tears trying to sort this out.... but perhaps it would have been worth to complete the journey before enforcing the new ToS?
Maybe the new ToS doesn't allow them to send any more e-mails because you didn't get notified of the new ToS ....
something like that
There is a good joke in there
I think
You didn't allow them to remember your email, so they must pretend they don't know it
11:05 AM
Might need an edit
@JohnDvorak that sounds about right
@Derpy Their lawyers might have been like "this needs to be right at teams launch so either this or delay teams launch"
Which they may or may not be able to afford right now
(pure speculation)
@user5389107 which would only move the point to "that had to be sorted when they were planning teams launch"
hindsight is always 20/20
If that lawyer only told them that the day before Teams launch, the "didn't plan things out with enough time" problem is still there
@user5389107 nope, but don't try then to ignore you need eyeglasses
i can't pretend to know the timeline there
11:10 AM
What I mean is....
^ how many of these questions raising good concerns still haven't got not just an official answer but even a single "acknowledge the problem"?
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: Xbox 360 Open Tray Error After Replacing Drive by Joanne Clark on gaming.SE
Not sure
Maybe the lawyer they hired said: The EU? What is that? Never heard of it and why is it important.
Idk speculating about it isn't really productive
@SmokeDetector this Q&A site recently started spamming SE.
Let's spam our answers on there too (j/k)
11:20 AM
Best to stay put for now
@rene maybe he wasn't EU-social enough
@user5389107 but ... I'm good at it ... :(
@rene You can root your speculations in facts
Never though the day would come I'd say this here... but for once I am indeed the one not understanding what is so funny about the current handling the new ToS implementation is receiving.
We aren't laughing, are we?
11:30 AM
oh, so it was meant to be "resigned sarcasm"?
I wanted to lighten the depressed mood with a bad pun
It did not work.
11:43 AM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Bypass read-only SD card with missing 'Lock' slider by user905634 on superuser.com
@user5389107 Next time try one that isn't so dark.
@user5389107 well, I guess I will return to my Destiny Board counter .
@Mithrandir A pun about rene's roots dark?
12:10 PM
@user5389107 It is not Friday, no (f|p)un allowed
12:34 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: How to remove personal data from PS3? by Geoff on gaming.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in body: How can components of a packaged food item exceed the net weight? by a deleted user on cooking.SE
1:06 PM
A nun carrying a bun having fun with pun under the sun? Better run because there's a gun.
(Now, where's my Friday?)
I'll migrate it to Iceland.se
1:55 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected, toxic answer detected: Shouldn't the electric field in a solid insulating sphere be linear with radius? by asd on physics.SE
2:14 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, bad keyword in username, username similar to website in answer: How do I search all subdirectories to find one with a certain name? by Inter India Tours on unix.SE
2:49 PM
Can we know if a user got presented an Ask Question template? For example did they get one here? Or is that experiment on hold?
AFAIR, it was on hold after the experiment ended.
Please 999999 upvotes and recover my reputation! — Dorian Niemiec 1 min ago
yeah ...
they also posted on meta
that is how I got there
I'm trying to be welcoming ...
Never knew it would be that hard ...
Just saw that NAA on meta... gave up after reading the comment thread .-.
3:04 PM
yeah ... I should have known. I've also edited out stuff were they claimed they were from Poland ...
3:45 PM
That's a weird edit history.
Morning :D
How much longer am I going to have to keep track of you by your gravatar, anyway ? :P
I'm unsure if I'll change my name and ava back
You could pick something new... a fresh start.
3:48 PM
No pressure, though. :) Take your time to figure things out. I know there are a lot of feelings still around.
@Catija I'm still a little sore and disappointed with myself because of the public ragequit
maybe... a more memorable number like user1774615...
We're just numbers here ...
3:59 PM
@user5389107 Yeah. I understand that. There's a reason that the saying exists "we are our own harshest critics"... take your time. I don't think you've done anything at this point that can't be undone and goodwill can be rebuilt with time and work. You've done a lot of really positive things for the network. You aren't perfect. That's OK. What's important is learning and growing. Next time, take time and think before acting.
@Derpy Well, it seems SE staff is at least aware that these issues need answering, even though they appeared to have been ignored so far. See the section "Thank you for your input regarding the new arbitration clause, though there’s still some confusion." in stackmod.blog/2018/05/…
If you did that already... take more time. :) It's all preventable if you give yourself the space to make rational decisions.
Anxiety is a garbage advisor
@Catija I have very few hard policies in my life, but one of them is "Never do anything you might regret tomorrow morning, until tomorrow morning"
I hate to say this, but the topbar in CM blog is... weird :/
4:03 PM
@user5389107 I went to a shrink and they told me after one session that I have bipolar/mood disorder. Though, I think they're basing that on my mom (who is definitely on meds for bipolar)... I also was in anger management as a kid... Based on what you've said recently about me, you'd probably be surprised to hear that... but I'm also 36... so I think I've had some time to come to grips with it.
If you have that you definitely don't show it
I like you because I can until now always count on you having a reasonable and rational take on any given situation
Hee hee... :P
I qualify almost everything
@Catija Needs more cowbell
4:05 PM
even that
But I work at it... and I find places to vent. Andy hears more complaints about a site he doesn't use than is probably fair... and I talk privately with other people off site... it relieves the pressure and helps me stay level-headed... mostly.
4:24 PM
Joe is my Friend ...
I wonder how often he gets those sorts of responses.
The pun potential is endless
Friendly joe
he's not just any old joe
se employees have so much pun potential
tim post, joe friend...
Pun Exchange, Inc.
If he leaves it on a potential controversial answer of mine I owe him some credits
Pun or not
4:31 PM
A pundit :3
A gracious note, yes.
ugh, my eyes... (after playing with autostereograms)
... (after wearing someone else's glasses)
... (after staring at the sun)
... (after jamming fingers into my eyes)
4:43 PM
watch it, or I'll post U2
Or you may summon shogs 1-8 to your defense
@user5389107 We don't ask what happened to them
@Shog9 Isn't that a job for @TimP?
5:04 PM
@user5389107 Shogs are indexed starting at 0. Shog9 is the 10th instance.
5:21 PM
> While the minimum age to participate will remain 13 in the US, it will be 16 in other parts of the EU
Does StackExchange really think that the US is a part of the EU?
@MartinJames Is this to prevent a possible ShogX?
@JohnDvorak hmm? "in other parts of EU" or "in EU"?
@Mgetz ShogX would imply an Apple product, which would be against Shog policy.
@πάνταῥεῖ does iShog follow the three laws of robotics?
5:36 PM
No, he's not a bot
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, email in body: HOW TO MAKE MY WAY BACK HOME "U.S" by Darryl on travel.SE
@πάνταῥεῖ Pretty sure that's an fp; seems like just a very poor question, not spam
We can unlist if it doesn't appear a 2nd time that way, no?
@πάνταῥεῖ ?
5:40 PM
@NobodyNada OK, after a 2nd look it seems you're right.
I have voted leave closed here but is it really unclear?
@πάνταῥεῖ You change your feedback by feedbacking again BTW
@SmokeDetector fp-
@πάνταῥεῖ Huh, apparently that feature doesn't work from chat
Oh well; you have 2 feedbacks now, an admin should invalidate the old one
someone say feedback invalidations? :P
@πάνταῥεῖ If you want automatic feedback overwriting to work, you'll need to create a metasmoke account and associate it with SE.
5:44 PM
Thanks Art
/me wonders how Metasmoke will handle Unicode in usernames
Did we ever fix the Unicode bugs, or will we have a user named "????? ???"
@NobodyNada if we only have one we'll manage ...
Just count the ? will work ...
@NobodyNada already does
!!/tea nobody
@πάνταῥεῖ brews a cup of passionfruit tea for @for
Make everything that handles text UTF8MB4 and it works
5:48 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ brews a cup of mint tea for @nobody
@ArtOfCode Awesome
@ArtOfCode does MySql eat that as well?
@NobodyNada I'm sooo mystique :-D
@SmokeDetector strange, Patricia Shanahan is an SE user. That question really needs to be edited...
5:50 PM
@ArtOfCode We had some weird MySql bug that caused 4 bytes UTF8 to break
but it was MariaDB for real, so maybe not 100% mysql
@NobodyNada UTF-8 everywhere?
5:54 PM
Double encoded to be sure ...
@rene Are there well known big differences for MariaDB and MySQL? I am asking because we're still in evaluation phase of our target RDBMS for the ADS migration.
@πάνταῥεῖ I would have to ask. I do know master/master replication is drama.
I appreciate any information about that topic, THX
@πάνταῥεῖ I thought all the cool kids had gone to postgres due to the oracle concern
@Mgetz Sure, that's why MariaDB could be an escape from that license. Of course what I'm evaluating in 1st place is PostgreSQL right now.
We could do a lot with their schema concept already. ADS free tables with information hidden in directory structures. Whatta mess (30 yrs old software, once migrated from Paradox to ADS).
6:04 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ MySQL is more performance-focused; if you have a large dataset you want MySQL rather than MariaDB. On the other hand, if you want good regex search capabilities, you want MariaDB - it supports PCRE rather than MySQL's basic regexes.
@ArtOfCode I want PostgreSQL, but there are obstacles we might need to face with it.
Compared with my rusty 'ole SQL knowledge developed decades ago, PgSQL is just awesome. I <3 it!
That's also what I still love with my job. You'll never stop learning something new (or you lose badly).
6:36 PM
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted username, blacklisted user: What makes your eyes irritable to lights? by Rayaz on health.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted username: What makes your eyes irritable to lights? by Rayaz on health.SE
these need flags
Taken care of.
6:55 PM
I do hope the order by was added intentionally so it can be rolled back. If SQL Server all of a sudden picked that order due to a better query plan this might take more then 6 to 8 weeks to repair.
it was intentional. Answering...
First a blog, then a ToS, now a sort. What is next?
@rene They will sneak into your house and move your cheese exactly 1cm to the north
with nm precision
Noooooo, not the cheese ...
This needs to be fixed:
Q: Java/JavaFX game:

Dusko MirkovicSo I wrote a card game in Java/JavaFX but I don't particularly like this solution and I was wondering if you guys have any better solutions: public static CardNode get(Card card, double nodeWidth, double nodeHeight, double imageWidth, double imageHeight) { if (card.isMonster()) { Mon...

I already had such case once at the German Language site. Is there anything we can do beyond making the OP aware? Flagging for site mods, doesn't help a lot, though they could escalate the dupe user account to the CMs.
7:04 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ question banned user making a sockpuppet?
Yeah. I don't know what works. Account merge should be automatic. But both accounts are unregistered.
@Mgetz Nope, inadvertently created another account most probably.
I'm still getting used to actually participating in some sense on meta... so I'm not sure what mechanisms are available.
@rene probably two different sessions, not sure if auto merge happens when just using same email
@Mgetz If I made site mods aware of that former case, they told me they're not able to merge user accounts. It's something that needs a CM chiming in.
7:11 PM
@ShadowWizard yeah, with cookie accounts when you lost the cookie I'm not sure what happens
@rene account lost for good as far as I can tell, unless you contact the team which can track it down based on email.
(and merge)
Cookies are s**t. I always knew :-P
@πάνταῥεῖ no no no! Cookies are yummy!
though being brown, sometimes it's confusing.... :D
@ShadowWizard yeah, I once experimented with it by trying to move the cookie between browsers ... didn't work ...
I've got paradontitis, don't ya tell me lies ;-)
7:13 PM
@ShadowWizard those look nice ...
@rene each browser handles cookies in different way, no?
@πάνταῥεῖ para what?
@rene ... and yummy. But no!
@rene I know! Originally for @Bart but since he didn't eat them all, now I'm giving to everyone. :P
@ShadowWizard Teethholes!
@πάνταῥεῖ because you don't brush your teeth every night!
7:15 PM
You know me too good :-(
hiding webcam installed in @πάνταῥεῖ's bathroom
But: I am staying away from sugar of any form. Be it syntactical or physical ;)
@πάνταῥεῖ not sure you can do it, sugar is everywhere... even in bread, I think.
@ShadowWizard there is some thing in place to prevent cookie theft (CSRF stuff). So I copied not enough, causing the server-side invalidation of my cookie when I used in curl (copied from chrome). Netscape has a cookie-file format spec ...
@ShadowWizard I spotted the red LED, too late now!
@ShadowWizard Let's say as far I can afford to do it with the obvious cases.
7:18 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ haha, you failed! My webcam has blue light. You got another stalker! glaring at @rene
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: What does a dog barking at a crow signify? by user4521 on literature.SE
@πάνταῥεῖ !!keyboardcat?
@πάνταῥεῖ Whaddya mean, 'wut'? Humans...
7:23 PM
@Mgetz Yes
7:37 PM
I feel like beatings are underutilized as a motivational strategy
yeah that's... not good
So... I guess the "no sharp sticks poking" was instituted after he left?
It's the classic "carrot and stick" approach: first you beat them with the carrot, then you beat them with the stick.
Most people I would like to slap left the company decades ago :-P
Impressive, considering that they're just about to hit one decade in age. :P
7:42 PM
> Time flies like a banana! (Groucho Marx)
Or fruit was it? Cant remember, too long ago :3
> Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
Poetry Overflow
@Catija I think that's a ruse
@Catija Sounds, reasonable. You see my brain starts to 7zip stuff, because going out of moar neurons ;-)
Once you get to the pre-hiring paperwork you'll be ushered into a conference room with at least 20 employees in it and they'll all start to produce sharp sticks
7:46 PM
Sounds like even more reason to do all of the interviewing process remotely.
There are those suits used for dog training ...
@πάνταῥεῖ flags as spam
Huffman compression to counter a bit.
It's all free compression algos anyway. Not spam. @Shadow
@πάνταῥεῖ I hope you're on the latest version... quite a few CVEs lately
If one advertise their product it's spam even if the product is for free.
flags again
And anyway.... pkzip is the best!
7:51 PM
@ShadowWizard flags as spam
@Mgetz Still works well for me. But as you see decompression get a bit clunky sometimes ;-)
@πάνταῥεῖ Igor needs to get himself a new compiler and out of the 80s mentality
@Mgetz Well, it even worked out for me, even with very small bare metal CPUs. I am not angry with that guy.
@πάνταῥεῖ I'm mostly annoyed because he's using VC6 and there are better tools with better security features
@Mgetz Wait! We're still talking about the LZMA core, yes? It's a medium skill job to adapt it for bare metal IMO. Been there.
The "biggest" challenge is to provide the appropriate memory management routines.
@ShadowWizard Debatable! Flagged as spam ;-)
8:08 PM
> A picture ...
I am not really violent, unless breaking "The rules of squares and rectangles"!
Here's more background published at FB: facebook.com/…
And even breaking rules of circles, but I won't go to post the (my) corresponding pictures here. These might be considered NSFW.
8:29 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ actually I was referring to the app itself
@Mgetz That's just syntactic sugar ;)
@πάνταῥεῖ I thought you were avoiding sugar?
@Catija life is a cliched time travel movie
@Mgetz Sure. I'm using the core essence, and leave the sugar off.
2 hours later…
I think they're rolling out something new and testing it...
@SmokeDetector fp-
in Charcoal HQ on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 16 mins ago, by ArtOfCode
The review system in metasmoke has been completely redesigned. I'm pretty sure it works, but ping me when it doesn't.
Spoiler alert: It didn't.
Maybe if they'd have supplied a reason, I wouldn't have had to ask?
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog Was asking really such a chore, though?
10:50 PM
@ArtOfCode People (apparently) don't like pings in general (I'm more lenient with them, but there are users with even more lenient standards, e.g. @PrincessLuna)
You've missed the point of what people have asked you there. People have asked you not to ping them about things that are irrelevant to them. Pinging people about current situations that they're involved in - like this - is fine.
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog it's my own post....
@quartata Realized, but too late to self-delete.
@Catija Almost on-track to viewing site analytics, I see
@user1114 Was literally about to ask a question asking if stackmod.blog would ever be updated again
@user1114 Can't you do that with your ad blocker too?
11:02 PM
I don't use ad blockers.
(Enter is super easy to press on my desktop computer here at home)
@user1114 Too many problems with anti-adblock warnings?
It is just a single simple CSS expression, so a content blocker or user styles thing like Sylus would work, yeah. But those all carry their own security risks, and may be outright banned at work.
(Because those extensions typically require access on all domains, including confidential content, and extensions get hacked some times.)
@user1114 Doesn't sideloading extensions help avoid that?
I remember the WOT extension; the authors were exposed by a German newspaper as selling people's browsing history
That could, but this is probably more convenient for me. It's easy and quick to bundle it as a Chrome extension, and now it's synced onto my work and personal Chrome profiles everywhere.
11:06 PM
@SonictheInclusiveHedgehog No. Kind-of on principle. If a site is awful with ads, I'll either pay to get rid of them, or I'll probably visiting it.
(The German newspaper set up a fake domain and browsed to it with the extension on. Then, they set up a fake marketing firm through which they bought some marketing data from WOT, and then saw visits to that fake domain at the same time and pinpointing the user who browsed there.)
Ironic. :(
Don't know, that's what's running background here (for whatever reasons):
@user1114 I use Nano Adblocker with Nano Defender. The two extensions work together to not only remove ads, but also remove anti-adblock prompts.
(Nano Defender is the extension that does the latter; it was originally written as a helper for uBlock Origin, but to use it with that requires complicated configuration, so the author made a pre-built fork with the configuration already done)
You will eventually lose this arms race.
@user1114 *stop visiting it
Too late, you're already "addicted"
Delete Facebook
... and twitter and all the other s**t ;-)

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