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Ano

12:00 AM

@SmokeDetector fp-

John Militer

12:43 AM

!!/blame

SmokeDetector

@JohnMiliter It's Jenna Sloan's fault.

Journeyman Geek

1:16 AM

hm

Why do people assume SE should/is a non profit?

Journeyman Geek

1:54 AM

(context- meta.stackexchange.com/a/307123/135565)

user202362

non pro fit, all for newbies

SmokeDetector

2:10 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in body, blacklisted website in body: Why do browsers not render pictures in native pixel density on by Sic jcj on apple.SE

Jon Ericson

2:37 AM

@Ano We changed it on Jan. 17 for reasons I don't know/recall.

@Ano We changed to to 100 on Patents, 200 on Photo, 15 on Super User and 2 on The Workplace.

@JourneymanGeek My guess is that we use CC BY-SA, which is the same licence as Wikipedia. It's a bit hard to grasp making a profit when the company doesn't own the bulk of the content on the site. It's not the normal arrangement.

Catija

Hey @JonEricson :D Did you have a good weekend?

Journeyman Geek

@JonEricson eh, maybe, but its hardly a secret.

Ano

2:53 AM

@JonEricson Are there citations on the respective per-site metas for the first two?

Jon Ericson

@Ano No idea. My guess is there was some problem with a post automatically going CW back with that happened.

Ano

@JonEricson How about citations for raising the CW triggers? Those work too, as I added a paragraph explaining that this was the old CW threshold so the citations make sense.

Jon Ericson

@Catija Technically, I'm still having it. ;-)

Catija

@JonEricson ... In the Tavern? Nah, you must have gotten bored ;)

Jon Ericson

Waiting for the kids bedtime so that I can watch a movie in peace.

SmokeDetector

2:59 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad NS for domain in answer, username similar to website in answer: If someone asks to borrow your phone to make a call, what could they do? by Prexblog on security.SE

Catija

Ah, what are you planning to watch?

Jon Ericson

@Ano The only place I can remember talking about it besides when we tested it on The Workplace is the blog.

@Catija Not sure. I started High-Rise last night, but I wasn't in the right mood. Maybe something more actiony?

Catija

I've watched the opening fight scene in Guardians of the Galaxy II more times than I've watched the entire film :D

Journeyman Geek

;p

I have that on my list. but ugh.

I kinda need to sort out the current round of interviews first

Catija

It's really good. I just really love the opening fight scene with Baby Groot :D

Journeyman Geek

3:10 AM

(which is a good thing, other than that I'm walking into an interview so secret... I DO NOT KNOW WHO THE EMPLOYER IS)

or where the job is.

or...

Catija

So, if we don't see you this evening, we should call the authorities?

Journeyman Geek

I wouldn't even do it, but the place that contacted me, eh, they pay on time, ok, and typically don't fuss much

lol

its just odd

but ugh, this means 6 months of employment if it works out.

and I can't really say that's a bad thing. Assuming I'm even allowed to add it to my resume ;p

Catija

Is this the one that requires a clearance?

Journeyman Geek

"6 months at <redacted> working for <consulting firm> through <staffing firm>

ya

lol

I think there's a bit more detail on TL?

Catija

Hmmm...

Journeyman Geek

3:14 AM

I can guess a bit - but that gets even stranger

Catija

I'll be interested to hear about it later.

Journeyman Geek

assuming Its something I can talk about ;p

Catija

Yeah... that's usually not how it works.

Journeyman Geek

(though it would be hilarious to have a job so secret... you have no idea who you actually work for)

Catija

I don't know about that, but I'm sure that there are people with jobs that don't allow them to tell their families who they work for.

Sensible Alexander

3:25 AM

Buggy morning...

user315433

My movie to (re-)watch tonight is Drugstore Cowboy (while we are on the subject)

Catija

Submitted my nomination for Cooking.

user315433

Mostly for a random reason: it's Matt Dillon's birthday.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija yay

user315433

The election is not overflowing with candidates.

Journeyman Geek

3:28 AM

@FTP its kinda quiet, yes

Catija

Cooking doesn't have a lot of meta activity... it's an old site.

Journeyman Geek

(I checked my candidate score for fun - its ...5)

on SU it was 50, the newest mod was at 49... was missing the badge for... voting in an election I think

Catija

Mine would go up one if I'd put a bounty on something :P

user315433

Candidate score is out of 40 points.

Journeyman Geek

pretty sure it was 50?

anyway I had all the score

Catija

3:33 AM

Nah. 20 for rep and 20 for badges.

> candidate score 28/40

Journeyman Geek

ah I did 40 out of 40 then ;p

Sensible Alexander

Some users on SO probably didn't realize that there are ads on SO because they already have "reduced ads" privilege

Catija

Or they just use an adblocker...

yup

blame myself

5:13 AM

0_0

"An oversight in the rules allows a dog to goin a basketball team"

cv-plz meta.stackexchange.com/questions/307132/…

SmokeDetector

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, link at end of answer: VLC not working on Linux Mint Mate 17.1 by dixzint company on unix.SE

user315433

5:43 AM

@SensibleAlexander reduced ads privilege does not remove all ads, sidebar ads are there all the time.

user315433

@Feeds NumPy 1.8.0 is old anyway, but the mention is appreciated.

Journeyman Geek

@FTP and least in theory either ads for SE careers and other ads. The fact that people are mildly freaking out... ;p

John Dvorak

@JourneymanGeek they found you

Journeyman Geek

@JohnDvorak naw, I just wander around fixing PCs

user315433

I can factor primes in O(1) time, if it's given that the number is a prime.

Journeyman Geek

5:52 AM

most of the ads I'm seeing are for SO jobs tho... ;p

(just that they're hosted over doubleclick these days_

John Dvorak

> Apple products catch fire when displaying emoji with diacritics.

Journeyman Geek

man

John Dvorak

I want that to actually happen, just for the sheer absurdity of it

user315433

Randall seems unhappy with Apple for some reason.

Journeyman Geek

question of death

user315433

5:54 AM

No mention of Google products.

John Dvorak

I mean, It sounds like it could happen. It ... just ... shouldn't.

Journeyman Geek

also, one answer was edited to

> Content removed because the stacked diacritics were tall enough to extend into another answer, adversely impacting readability for users with access to deleted posts.

user315433

Unrelated: Desmond Dekker & The Aces - "Israelites", an oldie brought back by Drugstore Cowboy.

user315433

Doubly unrelated: I didn't expect that being a (potential) mentor in GSoC will bring this much email to my account.

John Dvorak

> Temporarily disabled all banking operations until W3C figures out what to use for security now that elliptic curves are dead

SmokeDetector

6:14 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Why is the dialect different? by solar movies on movies.SE

Sensible Alexander

@SmokeDetector unrelated, but: OP is suspended

(dunno for how many times on different sites)

user315433

Another post (same username but different account) was nuked on SO a few minutes ago.

John Dvorak

6:32 AM

fun fact: if we consider a bounding box around the ISS, its density would be three times the density of water.

SmokeDetector

6:43 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Offensive answer detected: Why is arsenic more chemically similar to phosphorus than is nitrogen? by idek hah on chemistry.SE

SmokeDetector

8:11 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: SCCM 2016 in azure by Anoop C Nair on superuser.com

SmokeDetector

8:42 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in body, pattern-matching email in body, potentially bad keyword in body: HOW TO GET YOUR EX BACK WITH YOU NOW! by Gunn Jenssen Faith on islam.SE

Jenna Sloan

Fun fact: the mass of the International Space Station (without fuel) is approximately 2.5 times the average weight of a blue whale.

user202362

average blue whale I assume

user202362

is it average or medium?

user202362

and how much food did the blue whale just had?

Sensible Alexander

8:57 AM

How much whale would a whale wail do if a whale wail while wailing... kicked from the room

Jenna Sloan

The formula I used is: 990000 lb / 200 sh tn

user202362

what if a blue whale accidentally swallowed me?

Sensible Alexander

wait for 3 days

user202362

9:17 AM

and?

Sensible Alexander

if you survived, you'd be back on the land, otherwise....

user202362

9:29 AM

I would be still in the ocean?

Sensible Alexander

consider it a free ride...

Derpy

@SensibleAlexander Little problem. The original version of that story never actually uses the word whale. The closest translation would be "giant fish"

Sensible Alexander

yeah, either that story or that other story...

user202362

so if mermaids ate too much buffets and had too much sun tan, they would look like seals ... especially the hairy ones

Journeyman Geek

@TelautonomousKitty you would likely drown. Maybe take the whale with you

Sensible Alexander

9:43 AM

@TelautonomousKitty lolwut. I'd love to see an image of that...

SmokeDetector

11:22 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with a link in answer: How to embed the content of one post into another site by neeraj on wordpress.SE

M.A.R.

12:16 PM

@TelautonomousKitty would seals look like mermaids if they keep a healthy diet?

SmokeDetector

12:28 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Blacklisted website in answer: SharePoint Blog Post not displaying single post content by osimmassagechair on sharepoint.SE

Journeyman Geek

@rene hm

@rene seems to semi work on MSE chat, but not MSE or SE chat 0_0

I can't see @M.A.R. 's ava tho

rene

@JourneymanGeek errors in the console?

Journeyman Geek

err

one moment

I don't know how to find the console in this ;p

rene

@JourneymanGeek press F12

Here is my result on SE chat: i.stack.imgur.com/adOIr.png

Journeyman Geek

ya, bunch of ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT there

rene

12:34 PM

Looks like an issue with the CDN of gravatar in your region then

Optimus Prime

I think SE team is hungry for vulns. The security issue report delegated by shog on one ping, fixed and went live in the same day and also they ack'ed me. Tested, found a missing fix and reported as reply to the mail it on next day and fixed that one on the same day

Journeyman Geek

could be!

.... or my ISP doing some routing shit again

Optimus Prime

unlike facebook. Facebook is really a piece of sh*t when reporting securty stuff

Journeyman Geek

@OptimusPrime much more focused team I suspect

facebook is too big to move quickly

hm

@rene looks like it times out almost at the end of the traceroute, and there's no CDN

Optimus Prime

No. They're responding in just one day. But like dupe hammer, they have a big "intended behaviour" hammer and they're using it everywhere

Journeyman Geek

12:38 PM

if its intended behaviour....

Sensible Alexander

CVE-2017-????? A chicken sighted on Stack Exchange

Journeyman Geek

shouldn't that be the right thing to do?

Optimus Prime

Facebook provides test accounts and a registered user can create any number of test account said that it can't interact with real account and also it can't be converted to real account.

I am able to create a real account from it and interact with other accounts. Reported it and they responded "actually this is an intended behaviour. We advice our testers not to use it in that way"

Another one is I am able to claim any email account by skipping verification. They said it is intended behaviour

Journeyman Geek

hm

@rene looks like its back up ._.

Derpy

@OptimusPrime probably a clue that they are aliens.

At this point, no developer from this world would expect people to act ethically online.

M.A.R.

1:23 PM

@JourneymanGeek MWAHA you will never figure out my secret?

Journeyman Geek

NOW I CAN!

M.A.R.

That question mark is so meaningful

@JourneymanGeek NOOooOo00OO

But you won't know my other secret!

Journeyman Geek

hah

I made someone self delete a post. With the truth

Derpy

1:42 PM

FROM: firejail.wordpress.com/download-2

> Download the latest version:

Firejail development: 0.9.53 (GitHub).
Firejail current: 0.9.52 (SourceForge).
Firejail Long Term Support: 0.9.38.12 (SourceForge).
Firetools current: 0.9.50 (SourceForge).

if you have a github site..... why do you suggest anyone to visit that abomination that is sourceforge???

Journeyman Geek

0_0

Derpy

2:05 PM

@JourneymanGeek after all the scandals back in 2015, I don't really trust them anymore and actively try to avoid them.

Journeyman Geek

@Derpy Oh I agree

Sensible Alexander

2:20 PM

No link to SourceForge found on my browser's history - looks good

TylerH

3:32 PM

@Derpy tis sad, I used to love sourceforge a decade ago

Derpy

@TylerH I also used to think that in the year 2018 we would have flying hover-boards and secure computers. Still haven't got the board and IT security seems to be an utopia...

the4kman

more like SourceForget

Derpy

or ForgedSource

3

anyway, not related.

Seems Qubes OS cannot be installed with secure boot bios option active.

weird - even Linux Mint does not require disabling secure boot.

TylerH

4:06 PM

I hear they just don't support it yet

or UEFI

Derpy

4:38 PM

I assumed that the problem was just that the signatures aren't recognized

oh, well...

... Nope, seems I was at least partially right . Unless obviously you didn't mean the same by saying "not supported"

TylerH

5:20 PM

oh, I guess they have made progress on Qubes in the last 2 years

Ano

cv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/307148/…

TylerH

I was thinking of this issue github.com/QubesOS/qubes-issues/issues/794

Ano

6:26 PM

@rene chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/307146/…

rene

@Ano nope, I've commented so much there, I almost answered it. I'm not going to give the impression that I shutdown a discussion.

Ano

@rene Okay. For the record only: I didn't really notice your comments. I RC flagged it first, and waited until that flag was marked helpful; by the time I posted the above request my comment got 6 upvotes.

rene

fair enough

Ano

I decided to do that for many of my future requests (wait until the flag is marked helpful, except blatant dupes that should be closed earlier), considering that there were a few cases (where I hadn't bothered to post a request here) where my RC flag was declined.

@ShadowtheHedgehog chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/307146/…

Ano

7:15 PM

@ShadowtheHedgehog chaos-emerald-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/307140/…

rene

8:07 PM

@JourneymanGeek thoughts here: meta.stackexchange.com/q/304852/158100

user315433

9:50 PM

CM's reaction to feature requests, explained.

user315433

"Here's what's wrong with your idea" - What an amazing, thought-provoking proposal; my mind races to comprehend the potential! "Good idea!" - I like this as much as when I suggested it two years ago. "" - everything is wrong; reading it has literally removed my ability to write

Tweeted by shog9 on February 19, 2018 at 9:05 PM

Catija

Is that what that is?

user315433

"It is what it is" is true for every value of "it".

Catija

I didn't use the value "it".

John Dvorak

10:28 PM

And yet he wrote

Oh, he meant the person who didn't write

Writing isn't hard. Just mash some keys on the keyboard, look at what you've done, and if it isn't right, retry

Journeyman Geek

11:01 PM

@rene ehh. On one hand, poor op. On the other hand (small) rep hit I can avoid by waiting a month or so....

Catija

@JourneymanGeek How'd it go?

I'm glad I didn't have to call the cops to find you.

Journeyman Geek

@Catija imo, poorly. The interviewer felt I was overqualified and spent significant amounts of time trying to acertain if I would quit

Catija

@JourneymanGeek :/ that seems like a really crappy position the head hunter put you in...

Journeyman Geek

Silly thing is it's essentially the same sorts work I've been doing for years and want to get out of....

But I ain't that picky

Catija

Yeah, six months gives you time to find something better.

Shog9

11:12 PM

@FTP it both describes my response to ideas and reflects my interpretation of others' responses.

Also why I secretly think everyone who didn't respond to my last RFC is a dick.

user315433

11:31 PM

Also, pull requests that get 0 comments or reviews.

user202362

user202362

^ --- ^ black hated hacker and every other internet users - you know it's out there, you know it's dangerous. It might not be currently paying attention to you, but deep down inside, your conscious is telling you, one day it will come & get you ...

user315433

11:55 PM

Speaking of RFC,

user315433

7

Q: Request for comment: Stack Overflow is hiring a Director of Information Security

This is a bit unorthodox, but also extra meta: we (Stack Overflow, the folks behind this here site), are looking to hire our first Director of Information Security and I'd appreciate any feedback you all might have. Things I'd love to hear your take on: What's missing / unclear in the listing ...

user315433

"y'all" is misspelled.

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