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1:38 AM
> People are now exposed to more information than ever before, provided both by technology and by increasing access to every level of education. These societal gains, however, have also helped fuel a surge in narcissistic and misguided intellectual egalitarianism that has crippled informed debates on any number of issues.
> Today, everyone knows everything: with only a quick trip through WebMD or Wikipedia, average citizens believe themselves to be on an equal intellectual footing with doctors and diplomats. All voices, even the most ridiculous, demand to be taken with equal seriousness, and any claim to the contrary is dismissed as undemocratic elitism.
 
Skeptics.SE
 
Reputation means something, but perhaps it means less than the author of that book says.
 
Well, if Jon Skeet posted a blantantly wrong answer about C#...
 
@SensibleAlexander I was going to make the same point but with myself for Python...
:P
 
1:51 AM
@AaronHall Are you talking about what I was saying earlier?
 
@SensibleAlexander But it's not really about that - it's about me an expert declaring something incorrect that isn't immediately demonstrably wrong...
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog maybe, what were you saying earlier?
 
@AaronHall About the confusion over voting for AS people
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog AS?
 
@AaronHall "Autism Spectrum"
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I don't see how that would be even tangentially relevant, but I could be wrong.
 
1:54 AM
@AaronHall You were making comments about my series of messages earlier? I was just asking if you were referring to that? A simple "no" would have sufficed?
 
@SensibleAlexander and I think that's important because when one is an expert in one area one tends to think one is an expert in others... I think I could cite psych literature on that...
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog to be completely literal about it, you may have discussed something about this subject before, and that specific subject could be relevant. I just don't see how. Probably not. I've just enjoyed a nice refreshing happy-hour style beverage, so perhaps my thinker is slow...
 
@AaronHall I'm the fastest thing in the world, so you just seem slow
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog fair enough - since you're so fast, google me a reference backing up my psych lit assertion.
 
@AaronHall That's outside my world.
@AaronHall let me google that for you...
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog TY
 
2:04 AM
@AaronHall I'm already here
 
Here's a relevant paper, but it's not on the nose: sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1041608003000189
> experts recalled more investment-related words and, paradoxically, also made more false recalls in that domain.
 
By the way, this question was tagged , but wasn't actually fixed: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/305944/…
 
You'd prefer ?
 
The request isn't declined, though... the point of the answer is to say that it's unsupported... which seems like by design.
 
2:18 AM
@Catija It is possible to fix the notices, but they're choosing not to.
 
He literally fixed the notices by removing the unnecessary notices. :)
 
@Catija There are other questions with the wrong notices
@Catija Please see the update at the bottom
 
2:46 AM
A former moderator went out of his way to break a massive number of questions on Server Fault. That search is just the tip of the iceberg. One of these days, if I'm feeling particularly masochistic, I'll fix those too. — Shog9 ♦ 4 mins ago
 
 
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4:12 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog next meta question: should we elect mods with masochistic tendency?
 
we should, so they will be happy clearing SO Close Vote Review Queue in 1 day :)
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog that quote from shog ... wow ... :0
@SensibleAlexander regarding your comment from last night, I've worked at a hedge fund before where the kitchen staff, e.g. in charge of catered food, birthday cakes, were also in charge of booking flights, arranging meetings for investors and bankers. So yes, from my experience, I've seen low-ranked people in a relatively flat organization have a lot of access to information - it's not so absurd of an idea ...
 
Why does someone arranging meetings or booking travel in any way equate to giving random staff access to the PII of millions of people around the world? That's basic information security. Need to know, least privilege. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_least_privilege
 
@D.Hutchinson I'd say that's an exceptional case because that's not how it should be in general. Maybe... if you stated that in the first place, then we might think twice about it.
Also ^ what Catija stated.
 
I thought SE laid off their cook as part of the layoffs last year...
 
4:23 AM
Chef... and pastry chef. Yes. Apparently they are amazing at what they do. Sad they had to go. :(
I followed them on Instagram. Always looked amazingly delicious.
 
@Catija By the way, your bio lists you as being from Austin...are you situated near UT by any chance?
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I work at UT.
 
Ah, got it from your bio.
 
Yeah, I'm at the Pickle campus. Are you in Austin?
 
@Catija Yes, I'm a student there, from San Diego.
 
4:31 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog what are you studying?
 
@Catija CS
Well, it was winter break when I began participating here again...I'm preparing to get settled in to the new semester.
 
Are you staying over the summer? They have a really great student program at ARL during the summer. They like people with CS backgrounds.
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog didn't you start back Wednesday after the ice storm?
 
@Catija Yes. What I meant was, I'm preparing to get fully settled in. Last week was just intro, syllabus, etc.
 
Yeah. And I'm sure missing the first day didn't help much.
 
Settled in to working
It's a bit more difficult because two days before flying to Austin from San Diego, I had just returned from a trip to India
 
4:34 AM
Family there?
 
@Catija Yes.
Out of curiosity, what sort of research do you do at Pickle?
@Catija I don't know yet
 
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog I'm support staff. The team I work with develop sonar systems. Other teams study the ionosphere and others work with the GPS system.
 
Just a very curious question: how did you start working there after your degree in RTF?
 
My husband works there, too and the schedule is more stable and comes with benefits. Film industry is hard.
 
hmm ... I won't talk about my own experiences further ... but I'll give another example instead: sort of recently, an enormous hedge fund where my friend works conducted a year-long sting operation, catching the CFO and a couple others in fireable offenses. Their emails had been closely read and followed by (I'm pretty sure) some people lowest on the totem pole who report to the CEO.
The internal memo, after the incident, was something that went like this: "if your wife's cooking chicken tonight, chances are that I know about it."
 
4:41 AM
Working as a contractor for $150/day and having to cover your own insurance and full tax load... not fun.
 
so, I wondered what kind of access the lowest on the totem pole at SE have ...
my roommate just filmed for some tv show Blue Bloods or whatever ...
(I don't watch TV ... I don't have a TV ... )
$150 sounds about right ..
free food on the set, though ...
:(
 
I worked in casting... we didn't work on set. Also, SAG extras in commercials got over $300/day... so, no, it's not "right".
 
I see
lemme ask him again later tonight
 
user202362
@D.Hutchinson They probably read your emails if you are working for a hedge fund. I used to work for a derivatives trading company and I suspect my private emails were read
 
@TelautonomousKitty yeah ... certainly ...
@TelautonomousKitty the thing is though, the higher-ups don't have such time to do it, they delegate it to people who are seemingly lowest on the totem pole, and people have no idea such sting operations are going on ...
... that person cutting birthday cakes for you also knows your year-end bonus, your trading positions, your conversations with your significant other(s) ... it's pretty insane ...
anyway...just something I know that happens in the finance world, at least
 
user202362
5:01 AM
depends on how large is your hedge fund
 
user202362
if it's a 10 person office, then it's definitely a possibility
 
5:50 AM
@Catija film industry is cray cray.
;p
least vfx is
 
@TelautonomousKitty 100 ish people, too - say, for a hedge fund that manages under 10 billion. From what I experienced, there are the trading desks, CEO, CFO, COO, and some lowly analysts that do a little bit of everything. Oh, and then there's the lawyer. There's no separate human resources department / infrastructure. Anyone who has to get fired, the lawyer would do it - he was pretty busy firing people all the time. And I'm pretty sure the lawyer is not the one reading everyone's emails
so I did wonder just how lean SE runs ...
 
hah
My last employer had the same person covering accounts and HR
 
I see ...
 
Its also worth considering, outside the information you choose to share, the only other real PII SE might have is your IP address. Unless you do a DPR and do something federally illegal, its likely to be of limited use to anyone
I mean, why would the pastry chef need your email address? ;p
 
Quick question: is oneboxing the first tweet in this article (graphic content) going to get me flagged?
 
6:00 AM
probably not
 
@JourneymanGeek hmm .... true ...
 
@bwDraco people might go ewww tho. Especially if they just had sushi
I'd rather use the news article + context there (for chat) over "here's a picture of an enormous tapeworm"
 
Yeah, I'd rather just link to the article itself.
 
user202362
@D.Hutchinson The one I worked for had 100-200 people too. At one stage, the company had 2 HR, 1 admin, 1PA. Head of HR knows everything and did all the firing. The place was literally a revolving door (for traders).
 
Was worried the tweet might be read as shock material triggering a flag.
 
6:08 AM
@TelautonomousKitty figuratively
 
user202362
what do you mean, I would love to work in a gigantic revolving door like office!
 
Google Maps link please
I'd like to see a building that looks like that
 
user202362
 
user202362
like a rotating restaurant ...
 
user202362
but it's an office instead
 
6:10 AM
@TelautonomousKitty yeap, I am pretty familiar with that scene :) definitely interesting times ...
 
Nice. It doesn't look very door-y though
 
haha ...
 
6:26 AM
Who ran this survey?
 
@iDebug Why do you ask?
By the way you can delete your last comment now.
 
6:54 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Just curious.
 
7:11 AM
@iDebug Did you see the update to my answer to your question?
 
7:30 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog Pardon?
 
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A: Why are blatantly off-topic questions often showing up on Meta?

Sonic the Anonymous HedgehogUpdate: In an attempt to figure out how and why users post off-topic questions here on MSE, I've created a survey, which simply asks why the user chose to post the question here on MSE. Hopefully, the response rate on this simple form will be higher than the response rate to our comments. I'm us...

 
 
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8:40 AM
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog what canned comment?
Background,would be nice, I have no idea what's the context you talk about.
@M.A.R. ouch. @rene's hammer is heavy. But who is @Rene? @m.a.r.
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard canned ccomment to participate in a survey asking about the reason posting off-topic on MSE
 
@SensibleAlexander ???
Guess the only way to understand is read the whole answer, see revisions, etc. Well, no time for that now. :)
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard read the linked answer, it's on the top of the answer
 
You mean Ano wants a way to promote a survey?
 
kind of? I don't know if anyone else will use it...
 
8:47 AM
https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/306000/how-to-fix-org-openq‌​a-selenium-nosuchwindowexception
 
9:00 AM
@JourneymanGeek That message looks broken under the mobile chat site
yesterday, by Sonic the Anonymous Hedgehog
What would you think of this idea: provide a survey link in the comments on every off-topic question on MSE, asking why they posted it. If people fill it in, we can better analyze why this occurs and use it to provide better guidance.
yesterday, by Jon Ericson
@SonictheAnonymousHedgehog We've been tossing around an idea to poll users after they experience certain things on the sites. It would be incredible useful to work out what people think they are doing and not just guess from what they do.
 
I can't believe NAA is so hard to understand...
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Q: Are attempts to answer a non-programming question NAA?

Robert ColumbiaAccording to Why are answers for completely unrelated languages attempts to answer the question? , answers that attempt to answer a question other than the one asked, for instance by answering with a different programming language than the question-asker was using, are not NAA and should not be f...

 
woah, TIL
 
IIRC Tim Stone's done a lot of work on it
 
10:01 AM
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard I guess we'll never know
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Q: Remove unwanted downvotes

Arun SudhakaranI've come across some posts in StackOverflow, both questions and answers which has been down voted without any comments, but answer may be ok or good. This one example Sometimes I've seen somebody down voting all the answers to a question like a serial down voter. So I found this link Should ...

The title is abruptly iconic
 
and not the first time I see a request to review downvotes (but failed to find it)
like, really... let's review upvotes too... if the votes are not on your posts, then reject them
 
@SensibleAlexander you don't need to find it. It comes to you
@SensibleAlexander I was thinking more like reviewing stares. SE should use every laptop's webcam to see if they're staring at my question in a wrong way. Unwanted stares should be acted upon with extreme prejudice.
Maybe network-wide ban for 10 years.
 
@M.A.R. that's a good one. I support.
 
which is fine - I personally feel in your examples, he's creating a link between related topics and covering potential people pointing out potential dupes. He's basically going "I want this - and its different from this, this and this" in the specific example you gave. Considering this feels like a lightly veiled question about a specific user - perhaps you should have a word with him too? — Journeyman Geek 19 mins ago
@JourneymanGeek You guessed it correctly. The OP of the question has posted number of questions about the user talked in the question on per site meta and now he is posting here to know what happens.
Isn't that question related to a specific site as all the posts are about a single user?
 
10:24 AM
I remember that user. I believe it's not the first time he's being discussed on per-site meta?
And personally, I feel like most of what he's doing are not really according to the usual SE policy... but again there's site culture
 
That user. Mystical
No, not Mystical Mystical I mean, but mystical
 
@SensibleAlexander Which user? The OP of the question or the user being discussed?
 
the user being discussed
 
The users in chat ask him to tag them while he posts a question.
 
then... I don't see any problem if that's what they want... ._.
 
10:35 AM
You know, there's much happened between the OP of the question and the user being discussed. I don't know an instance the OP agreed with him or chatted with him politely.
 
@NogShine ya - that much felt clear ;p
@M.A.R. STARES INTENSIFY!
 
put mirror!
 
@JourneymanGeek You suggested downvotes in the answer but the user being discussed gets them for good questions too and for silly reasons. It is not so hard to expect from where they get.
 
@NogShine true, but that's more general.
My answer wasn't about one person, cause that would be silly
 
and I know how your general answer will be interpreted. ;)
 
11:03 AM
@M.A.R. :(
 
@ShadowtheHedgehogWizard :[
 
@M.A.R. :{
 
@SensibleAlexander :|
 
@M.A.R. :/
 
@NogShine :!
 
11:08 AM
@M.A.R. :i
 
@NogShine :<
 
@NogShine oh - that there's no standard policy? ;p
AMUSINGLY ENOUGH! I posted that as an answer, broadly to another question by the same user
 
@JourneymanGeek about DV at least. I posted an answer to that question too.
 
@NogShine shrug Tim posts his keys a lot.
and tbh, as long as I post answers I'm happy with, I'm fine. And that has more upvotes than that one downvote anyway so IDK
 
Downvoting @NogShine
Very stupid answer, I'm afraid.
 
11:20 AM
I'm not stopping you.
I linked your Q&A in that.
 
(also, unless you're absolutely sure you're right, and provide all the details, broad questions trying to get affirmation for a specific issue rarely end well... ;p)
 
@NogShine Oh cool. I feel important
(BTW, in case it's not obvious, I have no idea where your answer is)
 
ooh, back to top 10 year/month/day this week \o/
 
@JourneymanGeek "There's a user who obnoxiously uses all-caps in chat and looks like a puppy with a hat. Should a moderator suspend him or just kick him?"
 
@M.A.R. if he looks like a puppy, clearly he can do no wrong.
 
11:28 AM
-1 subjective answer
 
flags as not an answer
 
@Journeyman please visit the help center to learn more about what kind of answers are acceptable here, and be amazed at the number of links I put in this comment.
 
too many pages didn't read....
 
And either question your humanity/puppyity, or mine, and ask me to solve a captcha
 
(though technically the tour handles that)
 
11:31 AM
@JourneymanGeek tsk tsk tsk new users
 
(I'm a fan of the old single page help centre)
 
@JourneymanGeek The tour says so much yet so little at the same time. The amount of text is so relatively low that you can't, as a new user, take it seriously.
That was my impression at least
But after burning some meta weed, you realize it says it all:
There is no Kit-Kat
I want Kit-Kat :(
 
11:56 AM
hah. PLEB!
(Has a bag of the good stuff in the fridge
 
user202362
12:21 PM
@JourneymanGeek that's a cow on the bag right ... looks like a dog ... not do I discriminate against dog milk chocolate or anything ...
 
1:20 PM
@TelautonomousKitty I think its a cow shaped cream jug.
 
I see... no spam!?
 
1:37 PM
0_0
 
^ lol, too fishy
 
To add to the list of sins: Windows 7; NetBeans; m/dd/yyyy; Internet Edgeploder
 
all we need norton/symantec, and death followed by an eternity having your guts eaten my a flaming vulture would be a release!
 
You don't know what antiviruses are hidden behind the fold.
Yep. Plural.
 
 
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8:06 PM
8 messages moved to Chimney
 
8:17 PM
sd f
 
9:11 PM
@Shog9 @AdamLear Is this correct? meta.stackexchange.com/a/306024/377214
 
user315433
9:32 PM
> You’ve been added to the Developers with Push Access to Everything team
 
user315433
Sounds scary. But a better use of my time than arguing on metas.
 
user315433
 
@Ano2 is Andrew T.
Hmm...what Sonic character is he like? I suggest Miles "Ano2" Prower. (Tails)
Or maybe Miles "Ano2Tails" Prower (since he has 2 tails)
@SensibleAlexander You're Ano2
@SensibleAlexander If it was you, you made a typo, which I had to fix
> Just a quick note: I'd highly recommend that users not reopen and close questions with the old notice, so they show the new notice. This wipes out the original close voters and original close date from the notice shown, bumps those old posts (with the reopening), and has no overall marginal benefit.
 

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