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2:59 AM

Is the sede query timeout 90 seconds?

b_jonas

3:35 AM

What the heck does it mean when Community (user -1) makes an actual edit of a spelling fix to a post? scifi.stackexchange.com/posts/21124/revisions It's from 10 minutes ago, so it's probably not a deleted user that the interface shows as Community.

3:48 AM

means that it was an anonymous suggested edit that was accepted

6:21 AM

one-more-delete-vote-needed meta.stackexchange.com/questions/296250/… @Bart @rene

@JourneymanGeek yup, anyone can suggest edit, even when not logged in at all. Of course it's rate limited, exact details are secret, but guess there can't be more than 5 such edits per hour. Many are spam, but some are good edits. /cc @b_jonas

In MSE there are many of these which I suspect are done by a long time user who for some odd reason prefers to not edit while logged in.

I thought it's @Norm for long time, but not sure any more...

@nicael flagging as offensive

;)

@Gerry is it about all those recent deaths in live Facebook video?

@ShadowWizard yeah, vaguely aware of that, since I was wondering the same...

ugh. I've been here since 8am, and I'm tired

6:42 AM

and while I came in early, there's no policy of adjusting times that way

@JourneymanGeek so get coffee... or start working... ;)

lol

been running around most of the day ;)

had a few minor incidents - projector went on walkabout, VGA connecter damaged by a contractor...

lol

Printers are all good?

b_jonas

7:35 AM

@ShadowWizard Yeah but… wouldn't it show up as a numbered account? That's ho wquestions or answers by anon logged out people work.

@b_jonas not sure what you mean? There is no account, the person who suggested the edit did not login, and did not give any details who he/she is.

Hence it's showing as Community, just so there is something.

In the review itself it does say "anonymous user":

and.... I need to grab a copy of my contract, and MOM regulations when I talk to my boss

Apparently he's unhappy I didn't work saturday

wut..

apparently everyone on probation is supposed to

but it exceeds my contract and legal working hours here

@JourneymanGeek reminded me of my first job in SG

Q: Don't attribute edits by anonymous users to the Community user

7:44 AM

@JourneymanGeek MOM? Why not DAD?

@b_jonas also, see this:

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I saw in this answer that when an edit is made by someone anonymous and someone with sufficient rep approves it, the edit is attributed to the Community user. I think it would be better if the system gave a more accurate account of what happened. For example, it could say: Edited by anonymo...

@ShadowWizard ministry of manpower

is there such a thing? lol

We don't have anything like that in Israel... not even close.

Nobody really cares for the employees.

because foreign talents are a bit of problem in SG

@Elephant foreign talents?

workers from outside SG

too many job demands, too little supply

7:51 AM

@Elephant oh. Are you and/or @Journeyman workers from outside SG?

I am..

Nice!

I'm in SG

and my boss is being a bit of a micromanaging pain

:/

Bring MOM on him then!

He's also my CEO's kid

7:59 AM

ah...

@JourneymanGeek oh my...

yeah

8:15 AM

and ugh. I'm actually too wired up and tired.

~~cannot log to Sci-Fi right now. Anyone that can nuke a question from orbit?~~

user202362

8:52 AM

user202362

husky looks so lame next to a malamute

user202362

husky looks like a little kid

user202362

and malamute is the gigantic version of husky

All lame! We had such dogs when I was a kid:

Keeshond

The Keeshond (/ˈkeɪz.hɒnd/ KAYZ-hond; plural: Keeshonden) is a medium-sized dog with a plush, two-layer coat of silver and black fur with a ruff and a curled tail. It originated in Germany, and its closest relatives are the German spitzes such as the Großspitz, Mittelspitz, and Kleinspitz or Pomeranian. Originally called the German Spitz, more specifically the Wolfspitz, the name was officially changed to Keeshond, in 1926 in England, where it had been known as the Dutch Barge Dog. == Description == === Appearance === A member of the spitz group of dogs, the Keeshond in American Kennel Club (AKC...

user202362

9:01 AM

In the name of @bjb568, time to fight back.

In the name of @Bart, time to fight back.

user202362

10:18 AM

So, Trump arrived. Hooray.

10:31 AM

:(

we can has lightning now?

or maybe a burning bush setting him on fire

@JourneymanGeek oh, you love him that much? lol

Here is translation of a post I wrote earlier on Facebook:

> The media lost all connection to reality, completely and definitively this time.
From all sides and all the media in Israel shouting "Historic visit!" But what is historical about Trump's visit ???
There have been five incumbent presidents of the United States: Nixon, Carter, Clinton, Bush, and Obama, all of whom have visited, met with the prime minister, made promises and held a part.
Trump is just another visiting president.
The only historical thing is everyone's exaggeration. The amount of people he brings, the amount of lies he says, the amount of shekels Israel spends on this unnece…

Google Translate this time, didn't touch. Decent job!

Not perfect though, lol.

A lot of Second Life rabbits will hibernate soon because the DRM-food provider will shut down

... lucky, no one would ever think of replicating this in the real world.

@Derpy very sad. Watched Tron last night, quite similar to the Purge.

user202362

there are plenty of hares & rabbits in the neighbourhood

lol

user202362

10:40 AM

soon there will be an infestation

Yep, no one would ever try to produce drm based food.

Just figure it....

A vegetable juice maker machine that could only work with its own vegetable bags..

lol

its really nice hardware it seems

utterly bizzare but nice hardware

@JourneymanGeek by "bizzare" you mean "useless", right?

11:09 AM

Yup.

11:32 AM

.puY

user315433

11:47 AM

SE roundup: Chemistry announces Temporary Suspension of the Homework Close Reason, ru.SO is starting a blog, Andy is wondering about the results of Project Reduplication of Deduplication?

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user315433

12:03 PM

Also, Blender started its private beta 4 years ago today. Now is all full grown and custom-designed, although one little detail is still missing: a link in the footer.

user315433

Also from 4 years ago: Socratic gets $1.5M from top investors to build a StackExchange for education. Hmm....

user315433

What they actually built: "The 5 star homework app students love. Take a photo and get answers and explanations."

user315433

They do have some Q&A place in there, actually.

user315433

And it's pretty active: socratic.org/contribute

user315433

12:16 PM

I'm now enabling HTTPS by default for Stack Overflow. We'll enable 301 redirects and HSTS headers shortly. Currently 302s are in place.

Tweeted by Nick_Craver on May 22, 2017 at 12:14 PM

12:35 PM

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@Derpy second life is still a thing?

@JasonC so it seems, and it also seems that some are still able to make money from it.

That said, people make money from Roblox too...

@Gerry How the switch should happen

Narrator: In A.D. 2017, the switch was beginning.
Shog9: What happen ?
Adam: Somebody set up us the https.
Oded: We get signal.
Shog9: What!
Oded: Main screen turn on.
Shog9: It's you!
BJB568: How are you gentlemen!
BJB568: All your sites are belong to us.
BJB568: You are on the way to offline.
Shog9: What you say!
BJB568: You have no chance to online make your time.
BJB568: Nya Nya Nya Nya....
Oded: Captain!
Shog9: Take off every 'Trogdor'!
Shog9: You know what you doing.
Shog9: Move 'Trogdor'.

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I kinda miss troggy ;p

Ain't seen him in ages

user202362

Hire Trogdor now, save on your next gas bill!

12:51 PM

Thanks, "see full text", way to be a hero. What would we do without you?

Hello everyone, sorry for the interruption, someone needs help: chat.meta.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/6042478#6042478

This user thinks someone else is using his account, can we do something?

@BerryHolmes MSE mods are employees

the contact us link would be the only way to do it

Oh alright @Journeyman thanks, I'll try to convey this message to him.

If its on another site, maybe their mods can

user202362

most top viewed youtube videos about border collies are showing how intelligent and well trained those dogs are, and most videos about huskies are all about them acting dumb

1:03 PM

even then, here you really need a CM to look at it

I've asked a mod on Chem.SE as well

user287113

Hi! At the end, I decided to create the chat about compilers, interpreters and programming languages on the cs.stackexchange.com website.

user287113

For those of you who are interested, feel free to join me there, also because I'm still not an expert and we need expertise there!

user287113

Compilers, Interpreters and Programmi…

A chat room for cs.stackexchange.com to discuss concepts and a...

@BerryHolmes Yes, confirming, the "contact" link at the bottom of the page is the way to go. Or if you spot a mod in this room you can ask them since they're all employees.

1:06 PM

@JasonC I'll hang on here for a while and ask them if I see someone online, it's been two days since he's posted that message and my bad I didn't visit my chatroom back then :(

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported answer: Color code appointments in Microsoft Outlook 2016 by TechDo on superuser.com

1:45 PM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: Web browser (in)compatibility with Selenium WebDriver by sandeep kumar on sqa.SE

yup

@JourneymanGeek random "yup"?

yup?

Or more to the "Or if you spot a mod in this rooom...."

I've been having quite a day

Feeds

That's very exciting! The bad news is that it's a risk factor for a lot of things.

@JourneymanGeek you should really use the Reply option, otherwise only few people will understand what you reply to...

1:57 PM

@ShadowWizard ok

YES?

@JourneymanGeek so no happy ending to your day? :(

Well, this backfired, lol.

2:12 PM

@ShadowWizard kinda sorta

So, my workplace apparently has a policy of making new employees work weekends as "part of their training"

No one told me. Its not in my contract. Boss complained to HR.

I pointed out 1) I was working one more hour than both my contract and my legal limit as per the MOM 2) there was no leeway in MOM regulations 3) HIS boss told me basically that I worked 44 hours a week and someone else would tell me the details

I also said "I'm fine if you give it to me in *black and white that you expect me to"

Bosses boss, pokes his head in and goes "Yeah, I told him 44 hours, You can't make him come back on sat unless you adjust his work hours or he comes back himself"

Its a win, I guess

user315433

2:59 PM

@JourneymanGeek What does "or he comes back himself" mean?

@Gerry If I decide I need to pop in to finish something, its cool

they can't make me come back

user315433

"If you love your employees, set them free; if they come back to work on Saturday, keep them." ?

user202362

too much work that he has to come back on sat

Well, if I enjoyed my work enough, maybe, but this isn't the sort of place that inspired that sorta love/loyalty

user315433

The most important lesson here: don't mess with MOM.

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3:02 PM

@JourneymanGeek good!

@ShadowWizard hopefully

I do plan on trying to do some certs once the paychecks start coming in, with the view of quitting once I get a better job

user202362

I find the question 'why did you leave your last place', 'want to look for a new job' is almost a question asking people to be deceptive.

@JourneymanGeek sounds like a good plan.

@Telkitty honesty is bad when it comes to job.... usually.

@Telkitty "I felt I had no room to grow within the organisation" would be entirely true

So formal....

user202362

3:10 PM

@JourneymanGeek in what ways?

@Telkitty there's no real IT department or any budget, there's no real management of IT or mentorworthy folk....

@ShadowWizard that's what HR drones want tho ;p

@JourneymanGeek tru dat

user202362

the only true reasons would be 1)fired/retrenched 2)unhappy 3)want more money 4) being a compulsive job hopper - none shines a good light on the candidate if analysed in depth

had 1. I look like 4

@Journeyman BTW, looks like the autocucumber is quite popular ;)

3:15 PM

@ShadowWizard yup

lol

I didn't create it, I just joke about it a lot

Where you first heard it from?

How Stack Overflow Flipped the Switch on HTTPS

prolly random imgur

Feeds

Anita Taylor on May 22, 2017

As of today, Stack Overflow now deploys HTTPS by default on StackOverflow.com — as well as the hundreds of Q&A communities that make up our Stack Exchange network. We now redirect all traffic to https://, and Google links will change over the next few weeks.

Sounds simple, right?

But getting to this point has taken years of work. Four years, to be exact.

Nick Craver, Stack Overflow architecture lead, documents this journey on his personal blog in the post, HTTPS on Stack Overflow: The End of a Long Road. He offers a detailed, comprehensive look at the technical issues that make Stack Overflow’s rollout unique, as well as the steps we took to solve them. …

user315433

3:33 PM

> The website domain name is always written stackoverflow.com (no CamelCase, single word capitalization rules apply). stackexchange.com/legal/trademark-guidance

user202362

iwritelongsentencebutyoushouldbeabletoread

user202362

I have a great idea for SE's april fools day celebration - personality test to choose career pest for you!

user202362

you may think you are border collie, but in reality you act like a husky!

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: Serial over TCP by April Graham on superuser.com

user202362

let SE personality test tell you the brutal truth - sheep herding is not for you, you should just pull those sheds and acting dumb in front of a cam

user202362

3:47 PM

(Disclaimer, I love both border collies and huskies)

user315433

3:58 PM

> The password to our data center is pickles. I didn’t think anyone would read this far and it seemed like a good place to store it.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer: capture raw data in COM port by April Graham on electronics.SE

@SmokeDetector ugh, hard to tell if the user is a spammer, or just a happy customer. Other answers on SU don't give any hint...

user315433

Any sufficiently happy customer is indistinguishable from a spammer.

user315433

I still flagged because the SU and Electronics posts came at near the same time. Hope that mods will look at the IP history and sort it out.

Bart

4:19 PM

Given the pattern and history of Eltima links, I'm going for spam

4:38 PM

Anyway, shameless promotion on AlphaGo, the Go AI that beat one of the strongest player... just in case someone is interested :x

The Future of Go Summit, showing another AlphaGo's play, to be livestreamed.

Bart

Ooh, nice. Who does the commentary (is there any)?

I really enjoyed the Redmond commentary last time

No info as of now, but I really hope Redmond will do the commentary again.

I agree, he did the commentary very well.

Considering he's the only westerner to reach pro 9-dan (the highest grade), big chance it will be him again.

user315433

5:33 PM

My Keurig says "add more water, please", but never says "thank you". Ungrateful wretch.

Tweeted by aalear on May 22, 2017 at 4:12 PM

user315433

Probably its software developer took the SO policies to heart.

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Pattern-matching website in answer: Where will Imam Mahdi appear from? (Shia view) by user22517 on islam.SE

user315433

Nick Craver posted screenshots of SO in old IE now that HTTPS is enforced. twitter.com/Nick_Craver/status/866681797324754945

Windows XP: ...