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user202362

2:08 AM

user315433

3:30 AM

Just finished watching @Elephant (April 20th being an anniversary of Columbine shooting). Thunder and lightning outside, overlapping in-movie thunder... confusing.

Feeds

4:06 AM

They say you can't argue with results, but what kind of defeatest attitude is that? If you stick with it, you can argue with ANYTHING.

Elephant

@Feeds very true...

user202362

there is a reason why you have your own brain, I mean ...

JamesENL

Speak for yourself

My brain am thinking good and stuff

Journeyman Geek

6:38 AM

@Telkitty or other people's brains. In jars....

Koolman

7:07 AM

To whom I can invite for a chat

Journeyman Geek

7:38 AM

Ah. SR is big enough for spam

Journeyman Geek

8:50 AM

Heh. Ran into someone from job -1. Apparently they might be hiring. Not particularly my dream job but could fill in for a while.

Magisch

12:45 PM

@Shog9 I've been here only a year and a half and I've already gotten very protective of the status quo on SO, simply because it's the very best I've seen on the web yet and because it's actively important for and helping me in my day job and my private endeavours.

user315433

How not to engage on Meta (Hinduism site)

Magisch

Imagine all your life you use a carrier pidgeon to get information from the library and then someone shows you the internet

Of course you'll be protective of the internet since it's so much better then the pidgeon and makes your life so much easier

user315433

Ah, but back in my days, with pigeons, we actually learned that stuff.

Magisch

I also learn that stuff

I can also find the arcane and completly unnecessary undocumented behavior in one proprietary function from 10+ years ago that I'm currently banging my head against because it won't work the way it says in a single search

contrary to talking to programmers from that age and laboring through documentation to no end for multiple days

@JourneymanGeek Nothing but positive experience with ublock origin. It gets nearly everything, nearly all of the time, and it radically cuts the ads off.

Journeyman Geek

1:08 PM

@Magisch no disagreement there

@Gerry oh my.

heh. I think the pt.su thing was mentioned on SU

the funny thing is ... I have no idea how experiences in english sites would carry on to non english ones

user315433

1:23 PM

People used to complain about SO pages not allocating room for banner ads, resulting in the text moving down during page load... now that was changed, and the new complaint is that with an adblock one gets empty space on top of a question.

Magisch

I was the guy that complained about that

:d

Derpy

1:37 PM

Desert Bus on OCULUS RIFT?????

in the name of Celestia.... WHY?

Journeyman Geek

cause humans like hurting themselves?

user202362

new tenants become slightly annoying - they complained about brand new lock/keys and a 6 months old stove

user202362

I am your landlady, not your baby sitter

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek should I send them a mail suggesting they add multiplayer?

user202362

they complain about some very small things that they should have solved themselves

Journeyman Geek

1:43 PM

how does one play that multiplayer...

snatching the wheel from each other?

user202362

I handled many tenants, none is as fussy as them

Derpy

@JourneymanGeek Just figure it. First player drives, the others just sit down on the back seats and watch out of the window. All 8 hours long.

Optionally, add also live chat support so that the passengers can talk while player one drives. Isn't that brilliant?

user202362

wool is warmer ... humans are bald, that's why we rob other animals of their fur

Journeyman Geek

Fire is warmest....

user202362

Fire

Fire is the rapid oxidation of a material in the exothermic chemical process of combustion, releasing heat, light, and various reaction products. Slower oxidative processes like rusting or digestion are not included by this definition. Fire is hot because conversion of the weak double bond in molecular oxygen, O2, to the stronger bonds in the combustion products carbon dioxide and water releases energy (418 kJ per 32 g of O2); the bond energies of the fuel play only a minor role here. At a certain point in the combustion reaction, called the ignition point, flames are produced. The flame is the...

user202362

1:55 PM

not the warmest, nuclear reaction is warmer

user202362

like ... temperature of the sun

user202362

@Gerry show your love, shave your hair & make a jumper out of it for Jason!

Derpy

2:10 PM

MLP: FiM - The Fire of Friendship "Hearth's Warming Eve" [HD]

►

Elephant

@Telkitty I guess I'm missing something about ~~Freddy~~ Gerry vs. Jason, but never mind.

user202362

you missed the budding bromance? what a pity!

Bart

Do note that if you two end up in a Jewish wedding, you're supposed to break a glass, not the glasses. Stay away from me.

user202362

2:27 PM

I could get kicked anytime now ...

user202362

jason hasn't been in a good mood lately

Journeyman Geek

lol

M.A.R.

Breaking @Bart

Which is a sequel to Breaking Bad

Unless @Bart's other name is Bad.

Bad Larson?

Bart

@Telkitty worse, you could be forced to stay

user202362

how could anyone do that?

M.A.R.

2:33 PM

A curse.

user202362

@M.A.R. bread larson? sounds familiar, I have seen it somewhere before

Journeyman Geek

Its a dish, served at roadside cafes in tropical scandinavia.

M.A.R.

So is it Iarson or larson?

Journeyman Geek

Depends. In Welsh Scandiavia its llarson.

user202362

no idea, but it's stewed fish served with bread

Journeyman Geek

2:39 PM

@Telkitty canned rotten fish, served on a trencher

with some rotten shark on the side.

and a whole durian for dessert.

Bart

Oh stop it, you're making me hungry

Man, durian. It wasn't as terrible as it was made out to be, but I don't miss it

user202362

eww, rotten fish would make you hungry, that standard ...

Journeyman Geek

@Bart it does taste awesome

zat smell takes a bit of getting used to

Derpy

Nattō?

Journeyman Geek

(also durians are rougly as far from scandinavian and you can get...)

Bart

2:49 PM

Except in Scandinavian summers, when Durians are known to migrate north.

Journeyman Geek

Yeah, they fly in formation...

Bart

@Derpy that has something off putting to it just by the looks.

Journeyman Geek

sometimes landing on an unweary traveller and feeding off his conconcious form...

Bart

Some have been known to stick around and start bands. Most well known is of course Durian Durian

Journeyman Geek

ooh, that was a stinker.

Derpy

2:55 PM

@Bart they say that it is good for your intestine/ stomach (actually, many slimy foods - snails for example - are said to be good for preventing ulcers and similar disease) but good luck finding someone who actually likes it

M.A.R.

3:06 PM

Uh, I dunno if I should like my less-voted answer being accepted or hate it

But the rep notifications are fixed

OH NO, @animuson IS HERE. RUN FOR YOUR LIVES

Journeyman Geek

lol

M.A.R.

@JourneymanGeek I know, FPU- would be much less funnier

Journeyman Geek

I don't really follow smokey ;p

user315433

Duran Duran - Ordinary World

►

Derpy

@M.A.R. ^ this one?

M.A.R.

3:12 PM

This one.

user315433

Since someone mentioned it... [feature-request] make it 80s again.

M.A.R.

@Derpy I don't think he's Sound Edition though

I've only seen him type

Journeyman Geek

anison NEEDS MORE MUUUUUUUUUUUU

Derpy

More Mu it is

M.A.R.

@Derpy Poor MU. They were good people

But they're really wet now

Like, really

They're also overlapping with quite a number of islands

Unless they're floating in the sky

Derpy

3:18 PM

another option:

Korean radish

Mu (Korean radish) is a variety of white radish with firm crunchy texture. Although mu (무) is also a generic term for radishes in Korean (as daikon is a generic term for radishes in Japanese), the word is usually used in its narrow sense, referring to Joseon radish (조선무, Joseonmu). In Korean cuisine context, the word Joseon is often used in contrast to Wae, to distinguish Korean varieties from Japanese ones. The longer, thinner, and waterier Japanese daikon cultivated mainly for danmuji is referred to as Wae radish (왜무, Waemu) in Korea. Korean radishes are generally shorter, stouter, and sturdier...

M.A.R.

Another option is ManishEarth

user315433

> Stack Overflow source control history: - local hard drives - SVN - Hg - raw git server - Kiln - GitLab - GitHub Enterprise -- Nick Craver at 8:21 AM - 21 Apr 2017

rene

3:35 PM

> IP banning the wrong people

That ^ sounds as a great feature

M.A.R.

IP-banning @rene

Flowers are no longer allowed. See TOS.

user202362

IP ban the whole school because of one suspicious sock ...

user202362

3:51 PM

Elephant

M.A.R.

@Telkitty They moved the cat from the keyboard with Photoshop

user202362

maybe it's summer, you want to hinder the human without being too warm

user202362

cute cat> which would you choose: computer or me

user315433

6:01 PM

user315433

(From a presentation by @drob)

user315433

Stack Overflow makes one younger and more feminine...

user315433

> Interesting, download.intel.com still doesn’t support HTTPS. @Intel, any plans to secure this? -- Nick Craver at 10:58 AM - 21 Apr 2017

user315433

> Hey @bigassfans, your website needs some HTTPS certificate love: bigassfans.com pic.twitter.com/Z8UJ1KVQJC -- Nick Craver at 11:01 AM - 21 Apr 2017

user315433

Stack Exchange was like that for years (and Area 51 still is), but suddenly Nick decided to point this out on other sites...?

rene

6:05 PM

Payback time I guess?

user315433

Stones and glass houses.

Elephant

Need "Someone who just asked a question on Stack Overflow" image

user315433

"Someone who was just q-banned on Stack Overflow"

user315433

> Data science tip: Rub wormwood on a .csv and bury it under an oak tree at midnight. Walk counterclockwise circles 3 times. Prepare report. -- ...Junior programmer tip: Much the same, but with more awfully convoluted stack exchange copypasta and more youthful exuberance. -- nzJayZee at 10:01 AM - 21 Apr 2017

ɥʇǝS

7:10 PM

@Gerry Meh. SE is mostly static content. Other than user authentication systems there wasn't a huge need for HTTPS (although it's always better than not). Meanwhile the Intel download site is distributing software and the other site is a company trying to sell stuff.

also SE would have been full HTTPS a long time ago if it weren't for the wildcard issue.

Jon Ericson

Now that everyone uses HTTPS, how am I supposed to know that my bank really cares about protecting my data?

user315433

> The old @StackLit account that's still kicking around on Twitter predates that decision, which is why it exists in the first place, but it probably should have been made private or something when the beta site was shut down. I'll look into that. meta.stackexchange.com/a/295012

user315433

Interesting. How many other zombie Twitter accounts tied to closed betas are out there?

user315433

Here is one of the better known closed betas, TheoreticalPhysicsSE

user315433

> Where do we go from here? … meta.theoreticalphysics.stackexchange.com/questions/252/… … -- TheoreticalPhysicsSE at 7:14 PM - 2 May 2012

user315433

7:24 PM

^ #famouslasttweets

M.A.R.

Oh man, I feel bad

rene

@JonEricson turns out they only care about receiving your money...

M.A.R.

1

Q: Can I ask the following question?

Is it allowed for me to ask the following question on StackOverflow? Where can I find a suitable SparkJob to test performance metrics of spark on a specific system & whats the best way of measuring them? Thanks

Wow, they usually don't do this

M.A.R.

7:42 PM

stackoverflow.com/posts/43539033/revisions

LOL -- ''I have a pooper''

rene

8:38 PM

Quora opinions ...

rene

8:50 PM

now deleted

rene

9:18 PM

I never noticed that the Contact Us form is picky about the user profile format: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/348263/…

John

Has there been a discussion about hiding votes/not allowing votes for a short amount of time after a question has been posted to try and get people to write better answers?

Shog9

the reason for that is... Folks kept asking for things with bogus - or incorrect -
profile links and we'd either be unable to act, or act on the wrong profile.

Imagine, for example, asking for account deletion and including the wrong profile.

we have other sanity-checks for that, but still - potential failure is really bad.

More common scenario is simply wasting a lot of time and causing frustration

rene

@Shog9 That makes sense. Does it need the http:// or https:// as well because that seems the only part that the user missing in their attempts.

Shog9

@rene I've edited the question to include the crucial detail that they're missing...

rene

Ah

Shog9

9:34 PM

0

A: What should I enter for the profile link in /contact?

I edited your question here to include the critical detail that you left out: you were using the "contact us" form on Meta Stack Exchange! You don't have a profile on Meta Stack Exchange. The reason we put such strict validation on this form is that folks would contact us from one site using a ...

rene

facedesk ...

Shog9

Prior to automation, this was pretty much a daily occurrence. None of the scenarios I describe in that answer are hypothetical...

rene

And? Did you delete any famous accounts?

Shog9

@rene yeah, but those were intentional

Shadow Wizard

@rene Jon Skeet deleted his acount??!?! :D

rene

9:40 PM

@Shog9 :D

Shadow Wizard

@NathanTuggy usually I would agree with you. However, this one here is extreme case. Think of a tourist coming to a police station and filing a report, saying "I went to a book shop and bought a book for $50, paying in cash. I arrived home and found the book is in foreign language. I feel deceived and demand a refund!". Now obviously, the tourist could just look in the book to see it's in foreign language in the first place, before buying it. It is not the police job to explain this trivial thing to him, neither to refund his money. This one here isn't exactly the same, but close enough. — Shadow Wizard 2 mins ago

Shog9

Usually we'd catch this; the danger always came in when someone who'd done next-to-nothing on the site contacted us requesting deletion and specified the profile of someone else who'd also done essentially nothing. The temptation to assume they got it right and just delete is strong.

Shadow Wizard

I spent 5 whole minutes thinking on that analogy, I feel deceived. ;)

Shog9

Should've gone with masking tape

rene

@Shog9 yeah, I can see that go wrong easily...

Shadow Wizard

9:44 PM

And an angry email to SO saying "someone deleted my account!"

@Jason you feel better? Your cat is OK?

Shog9

@rene anything that requires a multi-step manual process to be completed dozens of times every day is likely to go wrong eventually. You can make better checklists... Or you can automate.

The latter is much more efficient.

user315433

Argh, Google search with site:meta.stackexchange.com now picks up all per site metas too.

user315433

This is how I usually find something relevant on Meta.SE...

user315433

@John Yes. The proposal was not well received.

user315433

No links because Google search is not so helpful with new meta URLs.

user315433

9:52 PM

If anyone's looking for a thick book to read on this Friday night, look no further than Feedback on healing our community by doppelgreener on rpg.meta.stackexchange.com

Shadow Wizard

@Gerry why not use the site search? I find most dupes this way. Or anything I want actually.

And worst case, you can use SEDE to search. :)

Shog9

@Magisch yup. I'm the same. As I said, there's good reason for it. Doesn't negate the problems though.

Shadow Wizard

@Gerry so much drama there... now things I saw on MSE get background.

user315433

10:07 PM

@ShadowWizard Also, 10 candidates for 1 spot, rpg.stackexchange.com/election

user315433

From where I sit, doppelgreener is the clear favorite, but... I don't have 150 rep there.