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12:32 AM

@Sam Just a couple of my wife's sculptures. The one on the left is "The Happy Hunter" and the other one is "The Vomit Platter". She used the Vomit Platter to serve sushi when it was displayed at her school's art show. — apaul34208 Jul 18 '14 at 22:35

user315433

12:45 AM

Vi and Vim is down to two mods, Muru is out (although still active on the site)

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1:03 AM

oh?

I wasn't aware of that

1:41 AM

Ummm so dumb Australian question, what is chili? I mean I obviously know what the vegetable is, and I've seen it mentioned as in "I'm gonna make chili" but I don't actually know what that is

@JamesENL It's a spicy stew (often using chilis). The most common chilis include beans, beef or chicken, and tomato sauce. One key to chili is that no matter what you add to chili, you still end up with chili.

Ahhhh

Thank you for that

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@JonEricson ._. chilliless chilli?

@JamesENL to make things more confusing, many americans call chilli, peppers.

I like Cincinnati chili, which is sweet rather than spicy.

I know they call capsicum, bell peppers which I find very confusing

Journeyman Geek

1:47 AM

yup!

and pronounce herbs without the h sound, which is just insane

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Do they now? 0_0

Eddy Izzard American vs. British English Sketch

user315433

2:10 AM

6

A: Age limit is too strict

I've changed it to 1870 now, which should accommodate everyone.

user315433

\o/

user315433

Also the year that Gerry University was founded.

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lol

I saw that and lolled

user315433

Missouri University of Science and Technology, also founded that year, apparently prefers not to use the obvious abbreviation of its name.

user202362

was SO sued by really old people?

2:18 AM

@JamesENL we call Herberts herb, correctly pronouncing the "h". Flavorful leaves need their own name.

That makes sense

@JamesENL so... When, lo these many years ago, I wrote that I was "going to a chili festival" I was referring specifically to a festival celebrating the harvest of various capsicum fruits.

user202362

@Gerry Oo the university I went to was founded before yours, how lovely

user202362

I admire your courage

One of them, the Mirasol cultivar, I buy freshly roasted, do some minimal processing at home, and then freeze for later use.

2:22 AM

I see

So bell peppers are related to chili's

yes

Between a quart and a gallon of these roasted chilis go into a pot of chili, along with several pounds of pork and various herbs and spices. This is slow cooked for between 12 and 24 hours, and produces an intensely savory and flavorful stew that can be consumed in various ways.

Journeyman Geek

same species, different cultivars IIRC

the more you know

Fair enough

user202362

for years I thought I liked hot and spicy food until I went to a place famous for hot & spicy food, then I was like 'omg I am so lame'

I hate anything in the least bit spicy, so I might pass. I hate pepper on my food

Journeyman Geek

2:23 AM

though there's low heat varities of what you'd identify as a chilli(pepper)

Tonight, a pot of chili is to be served with cornbread - I'm typing this while the cornbread finishes baking.

user315433

> Goal: Improve SEO numbers. Result: 38k impressions in 14 days for people looking for Japanese adult videos. That's what I call success. -- 🌈 Gervasio 🤙 at 2:13 PM - 10 Apr 2017 from Montevideo, Uruguay

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0_0

user315433

I didn't even know SO had a developer in Uruguay.

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lol

user315433

2:29 AM

> Some of our jobs were mistagged “jav” instead of “java” and it turns out that’s an acronym. -- Matt Sherman at 7:18 PM - 11 Apr 2017

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Probably nor did I

but makes sense

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I see

That looks sumptuous

user315433

WYSIWYE

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almost done with windows updates ._.

5 machines done, one to go

user202362

2:41 AM

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user202362

cooked this a couple of days ago though

user202362

3:24 AM

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5:50 AM

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6:02 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in link text in answer, pattern-matching website in answer: sd card data recovery prompted the file system can not be identified by Satish Paul on superuser.com

6:38 AM

@Telkitty is this bat meat?

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@ShadowWizard its trollspam ;p

Om nom nom

7:11 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Manually reported question: Folowing iam like piaggio indonesia by akbar sanjaya on softwareengineering.SE

^ flagged as abusive

7:51 AM

delv-pls 20K api something array meta.stackexchange.com/q/294649/158100 (comes with working api key) /cc @Bart @ShadowWizard

Journeyman Geek

8:49 AM

@SmokeDetector ... that's just odd

9:05 AM

delv-pls meta.stackexchange.com/questions/294656/… /cc @rene @ShadowWizard

9:56 AM

@Bart I missread that as dev-pls

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Username similar to website in answer: Why Is it that Financial Institutions always lagging behind at Supporting new Browser? by Loan market on superuser.com

I was going to ask if that was the new official tag for homework questions+ù

10:16 AM

@Bart needs one more

> Only answer if u know this stuff don't answer like google it or something.

10:32 AM

@Derpy would be fine as well. Plenty of stuff to do here

@rene :D

"Does frequently editing questions with proper reason lead to suspension?" ... no, so what did you actually do?

10:48 AM

@Bart I always start a reason with a curse word aimed at the OP ...

11:01 AM

[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Link at end of answer: What can I do about a toilet flange that is 1/4" below the finished floor? by Daniel on diy.SE

so.... SharePoint provides a rest service that based on a file name returns the icon that SharePoint uses for that file type.

problem: the extension of the specified icons is WRONG

for example... the large icon for a MSG file is lg_icmsg.gif

Cool, they have png, jpg, bmp, and gif all over the places

The rest service claims that the icon is "lg_icmsg. PNG"

the small icon instead is returned correctly.

I will use the small one and resize it via CSS....

I wonder what /_layouts/15/images/CAT.GIF looks like.

user202362

@ShadowWizard bat with such big bones, must be one gigantic bat

11:16 AM

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disappointing.

This is : ExportStatusIcon.png

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yep, a placeholder. They actually forgot to include the real image file.

But no-problemo, I think the file is never used in the first place...

Wait..... I may just have experienced a revelation from the almighty God of Developers....

I always wondered why SharePoint image folders contained multiple copies of this image

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all with different names and extensions.

Now, I see the truth:

those are the SharePoint Gremlins!

That explains all! That's why nothing ever works!

SharePoint is haunted by gremlins!!!

Blame those Glitch Gremlins!

Why does stackoverflow.com only show 7 pages of questions? Has it always been like that?

The active/newest tags show everything just not 'home'.

@JasonC Shog has decided to rage-quit and is currently deleting all the data in the database.

11:24 AM

So do I make a bug report or not?

@JasonC actually, 96 questions only.

Whether that's an easter egg or a bug...

Oh wait MSE only shows one page

@JasonC but that's without "new nav" (that older "new nav", not "new header")

Oh but

MSE shows one page on / but everything on /questions. Has it always been this way or not?

Only SO has a beta "new nav" that replaces both the homepage and /questions. The rest of the sites has a homepage with 1-page questions, and it's been like that since the beginning.

11:32 AM

I don't understand the relation to new nav but OK word, guess I never noticed that / was just a short list. Weird.

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@JasonC looks normal to me

I guess I just never really look at the root page that often.

This new-nav

310

Q: New Navigation Release Candidate

TLDR: We overhauled the navigation again. To get it you need to opt in via the user preferences page, and we want your general feedback (love it / hate it) after you try it for a few days. We are planning to deploy it before the end of the year, and your feedback is important. New new nav: bac...

discussion new-nav

Considering that Sklivvz is already out, will that new-nav come out from beta...

@Elephant I know which new nav you're talking about. I use it all the time. I just don't understand why you're talking about it.

user315433

@JasonC The front page (one shown by default when navigating to the site's root) never had pagination. It's a list of N questions selected by some rules; on most sites, the rule is "most active ones, minus those scoring -4 or lower, minus historical lock"

11:39 AM

Yeah. Funny. I can't believe I never noticed that.

@Telkitty very true, and very yummy

@Bart YWiMC

@JasonC My bad, but my point is "other sites don't have new-nav", which means the front page only has 1 page.

@Elephant Ah, yeah, see, I was confused about the short list in general. Even the 1 page ones I didn't notice before, weirdly. Not so much the 7 vs 1, but the short vs. all.

It's kind of funny how many different routes there are to view the same list of questions.

user315433

Ah, but they are never the same list of questions. Subtle differences...

user315433

Even when the front page is formed by "most active", it's not the same as questions?sort=active

user315433

11:50 AM

And questions?sort=unanswered is different from the top-level Unanswered.

So many subtly different permutations of crappy android questions.

^ That's not wrong...

@ShadowWizard tnx

12:06 PM

any of you use 2FA with a Microsoft account?

^ social engineering in action

:p

I have this strange issue where I'm often asked to log in when trying to visit some documentation on MSDN

and I'm wondering if other people have the same problem

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@Stijn I was debating using a yubikey, but my cheapie u2f dosen't work there. Or anywhere.

12:25 PM

@JourneymanGeek that looks interesting, I've heard of yubikey before but I haven't taken a closer look before

Journeyman Geek

12:54 PM

@Stijn the 'full' versions will work to unlock PCs with MS accounts

U2f is kinda widely supported (google for example) but firefox support is a bit crappy

I picked up one of the discounted github ones

1:19 PM

Ah, nevermind. Answer is already gone, so I thought there was something I was missing about the question.

Manually reported ANSWER

Pay attention, glasses.

That Acuriousmind ♦ is so harsh,he suspended me again (for 1 day). He don't want to be my friend. It's OK then.

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@Fawad We should talk to him. And tell him to do it longer.

@JourneymanGeek go ahead if you think so.

No one is stopping you.

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@Fawad or you could consider why, and be a better citizen

cause yanno, suspending people is annoying, and we don't do it for fun

So, why did you get suspended again?

1:25 PM

Wait a minute

Journeyman Geek

Why are you making it such that you are suspendable?

in The h Bar on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 22 hours ago, by Fawad

Lets be a man and shake hand :D. Sorry for my past behaviour @ACuriousMind

in The h Bar on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 21 hours ago, by ACuriousMind

@Fawad You know what? Take a day off chat to reflect on how a proper apology looks like and why trying to force a reply from other people by insulting them is not really better than just insulting them. You've been warned about personal attacks before, e.g. here.

in Trash on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 21 hours ago, by Fawad

If I don't get friendly reply I consider you as child-behaviour

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@Fawad talk is cheap though

> If I don't get friendly reply I consider you as child-behaviour

Would get you soundly mocked in many circles.

And yanno he is absolutely right

Yes,John Rennie send that message to trash. Then what acm has to do then?

When message is sent to trash,why he look at it again.huh

Journeyman Geek

Well, given you time to consider why that was suspension worthy

See, you're going "But he's mean"

when you should be thinking "Why did that get such a response, and how do I communicate better with my fellow man?"

1:31 PM

@Fawad why do you need to post this? It looks like you have a child behaviour, because children do that.

Journeyman Geek

And this isn't really the first time you've gotten in trouble.

@Elephant childish

1:45 PM

@Elephant you are that bigger or smaller one in your picture?

@Fawad Neither, because I'm a dog‌.

Journeyman Geek

@Elephant >_>

What if you're really an elephant, and that's misdirection?

That works too!

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Or that's what they want you to think

(also, in many cases doxing someone who switched names is uncool)

@JourneymanGeek yep

1:51 PM

nah, the profile is on every site other than MSE

Journeyman Geek

Then why do it?

;p

(and that's until @NormalHuman changes their username again)

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I was trying to make a wider point about interweb etiquette ;p

lol

I've had my user name changed once in my time here

A mod dropped the "The" cause it was too annoying to @ me ;p

lolwut

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True story!

1:54 PM

@Elephant you know how to install Chatjax on Android ? I am on chrome with Android KitKat 4.4.4

3. Replace the contents of the bookmark URL with the copied text.

I didn't understand this *

@Elephant

@Fawad Go to Bookmarks setting inside Chrome, then tap the "3 vertical-dot" icon to Edit, then replace the URL with that javascript://...

Did,then?

@Fawad then follow How to Use Bookmarklets in Chrome for Mobile

@Elephant wow,thanks man,you saved my life!

@Fawad your welcome

2:06 PM

Here is poem I want to share with you people

Lab Pe Aati Hai Dua

Lab Pe Aati Hai Dua (Urdu: لب پہ آتی ہی دعا بن کے تمنا میری‎), also known as Bachche Ki Dua, is a 1902 Urdu poem by Allama Muhammad Iqbal. It is a (child's) prayer to God seeking benevolent qualities of character and a life lived serving humanity. It is frequently sung at primary school morning assemblies as School song in Pakistan as well as many regions of India. The most famously heard on the media, is the one that was sung by the Indian singer, Siza Roy. == Lyrics == == See also == Pakistan School Song == External links == Allama Iqbal - Lab pe aati hai dua Pakistan School Dua (pr...

@M.A.R. you know it^ ?

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Hi @Sklivvz

Hi, there

Shameless self promotion: sklivvz.com/posts/fine-grained-unit-tests-are-harmful

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flags as spam

@Fawad why?

@JourneymanGeek flags the flag as inaccurate

Anonymous

2:21 PM

We were just looking over sklivvz.com/posts/where-do-stack-overflow-answers-come-from-1, as it happens.

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posts angry meta post

@Elephant he might be 13, which is still almost a child... ;)

reacts defensively by locking the post

@ShadowWizard I took the cat back to the hospital yesterday. The test results came back early. They did not confirm lymphoma. They weren't a definite negative either, though. And even if not lymphoma it could just be an even worse cancer. But now there is the slimmest, tiniest, rarest chance that it's not a cancer at all. Waiting for another phone call today he's spent the night in the hospital and is successfully recovering from the anemia.

It has been a 48 hour constant anxiety attack so far.

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@JasonC I hope its nothing. Cats should kill anything. Even cancer. :)

2:28 PM

The debt is increasing fast though. I added another $2000 yesterday. I just finished paying off one of my credit cards at least.

@JourneymanGeek I'm banking on him having at least 1 or 2 lives left.

@Sklivvz probably not the best place to post this here, but your site's bottom part looks weird on Chrome 57, Windows 10 (incognito, no extension)

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ow

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@Elephant looks like that on firefox too

Yes, total cost of 2017 vet bills is now approximately $18000.

2:29 PM

@Elephant thanks I'll check

Journeyman Geek

ow

Although a client recently gave me a $10000 gift. Which ... I'm speechless.

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Having a sick pet's a emotional roller coaster

@JourneymanGeek which resolution?

@Sklivvz you can't do that anymore.... ;-)

Journeyman Geek

2:31 PM

@Sklivvz half a UHD screen

does it full screen too

I can check on 1440p in a moment

@JasonC whoa.... Like a child... Even more...

@JourneymanGeek It really is and this guy's ups and downs have been extreme. It's hard to process. He was fully and miraculously recovered from the previous issue, and then bad luck, this new thing is totally out of the blue.

@Sklivvz interesting read. One thing I dislike about the current project I'm working on, is that a lot of unit tests require you to stub 5 to 10 I...Queries constructor dependencies, so it feels like the tests end up being tightly coupled to the implementation.

@JourneymanGeek not sure how to repro

@ShadowWizard Heh. Well, I don't have kids, and I don't like humans. I have only my cats. It's worth it, I'd spend it again.

2:33 PM

@Sklivvz happened on full-window 1080px

Journeyman Geek

@Sklivvz might be OS - I'm on windows

@JasonC yeah.... Who knows maybe the cat is as stubborn as you are and will get out of it... ;)

@Sklivvz I got this Failed to load resource: the server responded with a status of 404 () -- include.js

And I've been lucky enough to have been blessed by this guy my entire adult life. And he's counting on me to take care of him, so, I have to try.

@JourneymanGeek i'm on win 10, uhd

Journeyman Geek

2:34 PM

@Sklivvz yeah, windows 10, I think all my systems are on the creator's update, firefox 52, 64 bit.

I donno what other information I can give

happens on UHD and 1440p

@JasonC yup, you are free to choose what you spend your time, money, and love on. :)

@Elephant yeah, that's a known bug

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@JasonC I'm totally not going to judge someone caring about a companion animal ;p

He's a very interesting cat. Something about his personality evokes a lot of empathy from humans. He's famous among my friends, the vets love having him around. My other cat, she's just a normal cat and a jerk, lol (not that I wouldn't give her the same treatment).

@JasonC what guy?

2:36 PM

By "this guy" I meant Vinnie, the cat.

Journeyman Geek

lol

@JasonC so a cat version of my dog ;p

Pretty much, lol

He comes when you call him and plays fetch, too.

Lol

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(My dog is moderately locally famous, cause he's adorable, and we talk to him in tamil, so no one knows when he can't be bothered to listen to us ;p)

How old is Vinnie?

2:42 PM

15; that's the thing, he's getting up there. On the other hand his breed usually lives 20-23 years. And he is in perfect condition otherwise. (Normally) as active as a 7-8 year old cat, no diabetes, perfect liver, perfect kidneys. But, cancer. If it wasn't for that he's got none of the other aging issues yet.

I just want him to be 20. Then I think he'll have lived a good, long life.

But even more than that, no matter how old he is, I can't deal with the possibility that he could've been saved but I didn't try. If this is the end for him I just need to make sure I've exhausted all options.

Then the best I can do is keep him comfortable.

So until I see positive labwork confirming untreatable cancer, I'm not losing hope.

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@ShadowWizard it is nice poem and I think it should be spreader?

That's from when he was healthy

Journeyman Geek

aww

Seriously I learned " aww" word from internet.

You never said "awww" in real life? You monster!

I've had him since he was born. His mother was a stray. She used to randomly jump in my car to say hi.

2:52 PM

@JasonC i din't knew how to express,wait,there wasn't any situation :)

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lol

Then she got pregnant. I kept 3 of the kittens. In college I had to give two away. One of them, his sister, this beautiful little girl with a weird natural mohawk, Pinky, I had given to a friend, whose brother subsequently drowned her. And he lied to me for 3 years when I asked how she was doing.

The other, Julius, an orange tabby, who used to love to sit on my subwoofer when I was playing music, found a good home, but then I found out later they gave him to the humane society because the owner was allergic.

There's a lot of regret on both accounts.

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._.

Anonymous

:(

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@JasonC ugh.

2:54 PM

@JasonC your friend fear from you :O

I broke his nose on an impulse when I found out.

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No animal deserves that

It's the only fight I've ever been in.

Jason C. Chewing gum and breaking noses. And he's all out of gum.

The whole thing haunts me to this day.

Journeyman Geek

2:56 PM

(Funny thing is I actually don't like cats much. other than that old one eyed ginger, and the little cat that lives on the slope next to the old temple and...)

Lol

Some of them are special

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Oh, that ginger was an adorable scruffy scared up monster ;p

he was huge for a local street cat and would randomly show you his tummy to pet

Some of them suck balls, lol. But all of the domestic ones rely on us solely.

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apparently lost a fight with a python

@JasonC you also likes cats when fighting? \cc @Telkitty

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2:57 PM

@JasonC nearly all my local cats are ferals

@JourneymanGeek Haha, aww. Vinnie does that too. It's unusual for a cat.

@JourneymanGeek Ouch

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@JasonC most local gingers are cuddlebugs

@JasonC yeah, the black cat in my neighbourhood would probably have chased it off

@Fawad like on bread? ;)

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that ornary old creature once chased off a cobra.

Yeah there's a lot of feral cats around here. Not as much as where I grew up but still a lot. My other cat, Cake, would've ended up on the street, I found her hanging out by some garbage cans at about 3 weeks old.

2:58 PM

@ShadowWizard no,like H1N1 spreaded with people :)

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Most locals live in leased public housing

and no cats allowed

Although based on her behavior here I think she may have done well for herself on the streets of Brooklyn.

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or dogs outside a certain list of breeds

Yeah I remember you explaining this

@Fawad ewww

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2:59 PM

@JasonC its dumb

its opening up a little, but our law minister's a dog person ;p

I'm pretty impartial to cats vs dogs, I like them both. I grew up around dogs.

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