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user315433

12:01 AM

I didn't even notice it was a Colorado brewery... after that 4.25 hour meeting, all I was looking for is a sufficiently strong IPA.

user315433

12:11 AM

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Q: How to hack javascript server side games?

Is there any means to hack javascript server side games to change scores, bits etc using mozilla firefox console or chrome console? Help me on that please

javascript

user315433

The answer was, predictably, "use jQuery".

Jason C

12:29 AM

For posterity:

Lol: gemsfromstackexchange.tumblr.com/post/158967005276/…

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A: What techniques do advertisement companies use to get my browsing information, and how can I stop them?

Intro There are so many ways they are tracking you, you will almost need a specialization in Infosec to thwart only most of them. The big thing to remember is that security, privacy, and anonymity are a process, not a toggle switch. Here is a brief overview of the subject, with links for you t...

Underappreciated awesome late answer of the year

Makes me warm and fuzzy when that kind of thing happens

user315433

12:45 AM

I always have the shades drawn when I'm paying bills online.

Jon Ericson

I draw shades on my paper bills. (•_•) ( •_•)>⌐■-■ (⌐■_■)

Jason C

Ugh bills

Thanks for the wonderful reminder that next week is "everybody bill me for everything at once" week.

user315433

tl;dr keep your ear to the grindstone

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC I hope last week was "Invoice all the things" week?

Jason C

Half the things

Finishing the other half right now actually

Journeyman Geek

12:59 AM

ah, excellent

Jason C

But now I've got to wait for checks in mail, etc. If I mysteriously disappear in the next few days chalk it off to temporarily losing my internet access, heh...

Gotta file for a tax extension this year. There's no way I'll be able to pull off taxes this month.

Wow... Wireshark + BitTorrent = a very unhappy computer.

Probably didn't help that I have swap disabled and had 15 tabs open in chrome. I haven't seen a computer grind to a halt like that in a very long time.

Shog9

15 tabs? Oh noes.

Jason C

Yeah for chrome I believe that's roughly... 3.8 GB of ram?

Shog9

1:15 AM

I'm wrapping it up for the week, and down to 38 open tabs in chrome, another half-dozen or so in Firefox.

Jason C

Oh wait I had fiddler running too.

New laptop. Gonna happen. This year.

Shog9

@JasonC here you go: acer.com/ac/en/US/content/predator-series/predator21x

Jason C

@Shog9 Well that just makes you 38/15 = 2.53x cooler than me, doesn't it

Shog9

@JasonC makes me 3x jealous of you

Jason C

Oh I assure you, any envy you may have is sorely misdirected.

Shog9

1:17 AM

only time I have 15 open tabs is when I've accidentally destroyed my tab history

and that only lasts a few minutes

Jason C

@Shog9 That's absurd.

Shog9

I think you mean "jaw-droppingly beautiful"

Tim Stone

@Shog9 It's possible to get below three digits? I am skeptical

Shog9

@TimStone I gotta confess, I was pretty proud of myself until Jason here started bragging

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Jason C

1:18 AM

No way. Thinkpad T/W series all the way. Perfection in a plain black rectangle.

Shog9

Thinkpads don't have the keyboards they used to.

ɥʇǝS

@Shog9 how does your poor computer handle this? Chrome for the RAM and Firefox for the CPU.. Your room must stay toasty warm.

Shog9

@ɥʇǝS this is what I'm running these days

Jason C

@Shog9 I know. That actually bums me out. They at least fixed their momentarily disastrous touchpads. I actually did buy one about 2 years ago but the touchpad was so horrific I ended up returning it.

ɥʇǝS

@Shog9 Wowz. That thing is decked out! I rest my case.

Shog9

1:20 AM

I loved my Thinkpad. Best laptop I'd ever had. New ones don't even come close; little squishy chicklets.

If you're gonna run a laptop, it should be something you're happy to type on; otherwise, what's the point?

Tim Stone

It's Chrome all the way down

Jason C

We'll see. To be fair the one I own now (my third one in 14 years) is about 6 years old. I haven't investigated the new ones too closely yet. I hope they didn't go downhill.

It had always impressed me that lenovo kept up the ibm quality when they bought them.

My main criteria is durability, I'll take slightly off keyboards as a compromise.

Shog9

@TimStone svelt

Jason C

Oh wait now I remember specifically

The keyboard in the one I had and returned a few years ago, it was the number pad that bugged me. Because it shifted the whole keyboard to the left.

That was annoying.

Tim Stone

@Shog9 It's behaving rather well at the moment. Probably helps that TweetDeck isn't open

Shog9

1:25 AM

I'm just always impressed to see a single 10GB process. Makes all that 64-bit stuff worthwhile.

Jason C

Heh

I can't conceive of 10gb worth of stuff that chrome would have to keep track of.

Closer to 11

That's absurd

Shog9

(also makes having 64GB of RAM justifiable)

Tim Stone

@Shog9 Yeah, what's up with that? I've had a few individual ones get up to 3/4 GB each when there was a memory leak, but 10GB for a single Chrome process seems weird even for Chrome

Shog9

@TimStone seems about par for the course

I haven't restarted Chrome in several weeks, so... It just keeps growing, and growing...

There's this thing called Stack Exchange Data Explorer that I open looooots of tabs for, and it eats memory like popcorn

Tim Stone

I'm sure there's someone we could blame for that

Shog9

1:31 AM

whoever wrote that grid would be a good start

Tim Stone

He actually stopped maintaining that project due to other priorities last I checked

But SlickGrid is pretty light to begin with, so it could possible be my fault

Possibly

Jason C

What's the rule for when the graph tab appears? I forgot

Tim Stone

There's so much cleanup to be done though I don't even know where to start, ugh

@JasonC data.stackexchange.com/help#graphing

Jason C

Oh right, sorry. My brain is constantly erasing the memory that that help page exists.

Tim Stone

lol, it's fine, I just didn't remember myself but knew it was documented there :P

Shog9

1:36 AM

I wrote a little script to allow me to pull results from SEDE programatically, and then another set of scripts to generate graphs using D3. That was fun.

Jason C

I just did something similar. The captcha makes it kind of hilariously clunky.

Tim Stone

Incidentally that is also on the to-do list, but a ways back

Jason C

It's already got a sort-of api

The captcha is the only obstacle

Shog9

@JasonC just log in

Jason C

Yeah... it's easier to be lazy than to track cookies or whatever.

Shog9

1:40 AM

heh

Jason C

Anyways doesn't it use oauth?

The flow for desktop apps sucks balls. ArtOfCode came to the rescue a bit on that for the main sites stackapps.com/questions/7271

Oh that's for the api. Or something. I don't know. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm tired. The best strategy is to stop talking.

I should write a chrome extension to pop up a confirmation dialog when I enter text that contains a "?" into a text field at certain times of night.

@TimStone Would it make you angry if I documented what I've found out about sede's back-end api on mse? I wanted to do that, but then I wasn't sure if it was something that needed to be encouraged.

Tim Stone

That sounds more like a @Shog9 question

If the server catches on fire, etc I'm not the one who has to deal with it ;P

Shog9

don't see a problem; it's pretty trivial to reverse-engineer, and - heck - the thing's open source so in theory you wouldn't even need to reverse engineer it.

Jason C

Yay, sharing

Shog9

my entire wrapper is maybe 6kb; pretty simple API

SmokeDetector

1:48 AM

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Jason C

Yeah the source was easy to get the info from

Shog9

@SmokeDetector Accuse your boss of being the king of the lizard people and refuse to do further work until Congress ratifies a peace treaty governing inter-species work relationships.

user202362

so lizard people are better or worse than lazy people?

Shog9

Definitely.

Jason C

stackexchange.com/blogs is so [much ]sad[der than it used it be] now.

Shog9

1:52 AM

I think you're exaggerating

also, blogging is so 10 years ago. Kids today consider it passe. They're all about shitposting.

user315433

SnapOverflow, disappearing programming questions.

Jason C

You're right it's not so bad

Shog9

now I'm gonna have that song running through my head

Jason C

dee duh dee duh dee duh doooo doooo

Shog9

that was like the best thing on the 'net in '99

that and ogrish.com

Jason C

1:59 AM

Oh god

The internet felt darker back then. It's still got its darkness but now its all shoved away into little corners.

Shog9

you want darkness? Consider that there are people who were tiny little infant newborn babies then who are right this moment buying cigarettes.

Jason C

Or I'm just desensitized and jaded.

Oh I know I think about that all the time.

ɥʇǝS

only the one blog post for April fools this year?

Jason C

There's people who were fetuses when I was in high school who are giving me speeding tickets now.

user202362

it's not like they pocket the money

user202362

2:05 AM

Jason C

2:17 AM

Lol...

I hope they didn't expect that headline to do anything but make people giggle

user315433

It's not that surprising that telling an officer they were a fetus when you were in high school leads to a ticket.

Jason C

Ha

Also: academia.stackexchange.com/questions/87394/… -- sad trombone

bjb568

2:39 AM

I'm writing C for a lab due at midnight.

The files are indented with three spaces.

There are spaces before semicolons in for loops.

wat

Jason C

@bjb568 I've seen that not infrequently. I don't know which style guide its from.

Like for ( x = 0 ; x < 100 ; x ++ ), it's weird

Shog9

Three spaces is the correct number of spaces to indent.

No spaces is the correct number of spaces before semicolons. Unless, maybe, you're French.

Jason C

The real question is how do you write an empty while loop? That's what separates the men from the boys.

bjb568

while (true) {}

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user202362

2:56 AM

unfortunately more lines of code does not make it better

user202362

just like I was reading this apple pay article - who would have thought innovation can reduce efficiency?

Jason C

@Shog9 buzzfeed.com/kmallikarjuna/…

@Telkitty Just keep adding more eventually it'll work

Whoa

I thought bjb said that.

Well now I've confused myself so... yeah, back to what I was doing.

user202362

Used to be like: mine goods/labour for your goods/labour, then it's goods/labour for money which can be used to purchase goods/labour. Then it's goods/labour for money in the bank. Now it's goods/labour for money in the bank through mobile app to another financial institution which then exchanges for goods and labour.

user202362

A inefficient system dumb humans truely deserve

Shog9

#define while for(;;){}
while

Jason C

3:13 AM

I want to repopularize ] as the command prompt.

I also want to make PEEK and POKE great again.

ɥʇǝS

@JasonC go doesn't even have while loops :P

and labVIEW only has do while loops.. >.<

John

3:31 AM

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bwDraco

4:01 AM

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...add dumbfuck to the filter?

user202362

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4:47 AM

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Jason C

5:00 AM

@Shog9 Does TinyName in sites.xml actually signify anything?

E.g. "hinduismme" for the hinduism meta doesn't seem to relate to anything in particular.

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Journeyman Geek

5:32 AM

@JasonC sounds french

Jason C

6:32 AM

HOLY CRAP

The Bricks site has been around for 5 years??

HOW DID I NOT KNOW THAT EXISTED

OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG

OMG

Oh that's why you guys were talking about bricks and blocks the other day!! 'Cause I see they're renaming.

But... OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG

user202362

too quiet to troll this April fools ...

user202362

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Q: The next step in computer security

Here is the proof of concept of what I think that’s going to be the next big thing in computer security – A Proctol Chair. Yes that’s right - it’s a chair with posterior sensor. A posterior sensor is an electronic device used to capture a digital image of the backside pattern. Everyone’s bu...

discussion april-fools

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Jason C

7:27 AM

@Shog9 Another weird thing: What are the Id's in Sites.xml? I expected them to correspond with SEDE's sys.databases.database_id but they do not. (cc @TimStone -- "Another" refers to earlier question to shog re: meaning of TinyName in Sites.xml)

rene

maybe matches siteid in the api on /sites?

at worst it is the dbid of the production database

Jason C

There's no numeric ids in /sites

rene

I don't have the impression the dbid's in SEDE are stable for the same dbname but I didn't keep exact track of them

Jason C

That could be true maybe they change every time sede is updated

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rene

7:37 AM

@JasonC any match with what is in here?

do a view-source

Jason C

@rene Looking at data-id in there: No.

E.g. english is 97 in that page, 24 in the dump, 184 in sede

Conclusion: No significance to ID numbers, other than some internal references in sites.xml (e.g. "Parent" refers to an "Id" within that file).

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Jason C

Sanity check: Devops, Literature, Vegetarianism, and Ukrainian look to be the only new sites since the last archive dump. Does that feel right? Seems reasonable to me.

rene

This is the sp used to create the sede db's: gist.github.com/NickCraver/f009ab6e0d6b85ae54f6 depending on the order that sp is called it will get its dbid.

Jason C

Cool. This all makes sense then.

TinyName in Sites.xml remains a mystery, but it doesn't appear useful for anything, so whatever.

rene

7:46 AM

@JasonC In [Data.StackExchange] there is an sites table. My bet is on that it gets generated from there. Unfortunately that db is only accessable for staff

@JasonC here it is i.stack.imgur.com/V5I83.png

Jason C

@rene Yeah I tried experimenting with that the other day, I was bummed

Oh nice!

That directly matches sites.xml

rene

@JasonC yeah, it is used in code as well: github.com/StackExchange/StackExchange.DataExplorer/…

@JasonC yeah, there is sensitive data in that db.

Jason C

Something's weird about the actual values of TinyName compared to that code

The meta TinyNames aren't consistent in sites.xml. There's a bunch of the form "meta.NAME" and a bunch of the form "NAMEme", just... "me" on the end.

Oh it looks like it uses TinyName in the sede url

But...

YEAH!

That's totally it! Sweet!

I don't know why they're inconsistent, but they are definitely the SEDE URLs. That's a piece I was missing in the info I'm compiling. Awesome.

@Shog9 @TimStone Nevermind!

data.stackexchange.com/craftcmsme/query/new vs data.stackexchange.com/meta.bricks/query/new is an example of two inconsistent ones. Which is mysterious, but generally uninteresting.

Journeyman Geek

8:14 AM

@JasonC more or less, from what I remember.

@JasonC could check the archive dump date, then compare it against site age, as per stackexchange.com/sites#newest ?

Jason C

Oh my dump may be out of date too

Journeyman Geek

hah!

Jason C

Oh yeah OK now I'm only seeing devops as not in the dump. Dump March 14, devops... Feb 28. Weird.

Journeyman Geek

(I quite literally have no idea what you're doing, but that seems logical)

Jason C

Maybe they didn't include it in the latest dump because it's too new

Journeyman Geek

8:22 AM

@JasonC maybe they take a while to add the dump, and/or there's a delay between the dump snapshot and dump dumping.

Jason C

How much dump would a dump dump dump if a dump dump could dump dump

4

Answer: 41.98 GB, apparently

Jason C

8:42 AM

@rene Welp, I've compiled a ton of info: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/… Now I have to figure out what to do with it.

Andrew T.

Good for quick lookup

Sklivvz

9:00 AM

Is dance-dance-authentication the only prank this year?

rene

yes, I think so. I guess it is time to rant on meta about the lack of creativity, lost dev productivity, down time and meta drama.

M.A.R.

9:17 AM

I guess

Then complain about the complaints

rene

that will make for a great weekend

Sklivvz

ಠ_ಠ

Journeyman Geek

man

I'm poking around A51

and I realised, I have no idea how things work. To zee help pages.

Andrew T.

You propose, you ask, you commit

Journeyman Geek

but the main page looks... like questions about everything, with no tags related to the proposal they are about and...

Like, discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/26638/… something like this, for example.

Sklivvz

9:34 AM

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Q: Why so serious?

It's April Fools and SE brought no fun thing this year. What is happening now? Why so serious?

discussion fun april-fools

there you go

Andrew T.

@JourneymanGeek oh, you've reached the meta for A51... try the main page

Journeyman Geek

See, it concerns me I got confused ;p

and at this point. I don't remember what I was looking for

rene

10:44 AM

> You can only perform 30 searches within a 60 second window, please wait a moment and try again.

U NO THROTTLE ME!

M.A.R.

@rene Oh you'd be surprised

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11:01 AM

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12:10 PM

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M.A.R.

1:57 PM

2 hours later...

I hate your ellipses

Well, this year April fools related meta is heavily suppressed.

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user202362

this year April fools lands on a Saturday ... and it's the first april fools after trump has been elected </trollololo>

user315433

2:23 PM

We have grown older, and Meta has grown colder, and nothing is very much fun anymore.

Journeyman Geek

@Telkitty too soooooooon

user202362

I would blame it all on trump - if he didn't have that muslim travel ban, there would not be that 'take a stand' post, and if there wasn't that take a stand post, this April fools would have been more fun.

user202362

lemme tell ya, Ooo trumps fault

user202362

trollololo

Journeyman Geek

actually. We didn't do one on SU either ;p

Jason C

2:44 PM

Jesus christ you people are spoiled, lol.

Journeyman Geek

@JasonC We did a few ;p

Shadow Wizard

4:10 PM

@Telkitty yup, SE team spent all their time on that silly stand, there was no time left for anything else. ;(

bjb568

Shadow Wizard

@bjb568 very hairy. Your pet?

bjb568

no, but pretty furry nonetheless

Shadow Wizard

Your April Fools prank?

Jason C

@bjb568 nice one

In the neighborhood I grew up in for some reason every year we were overrun by a different kind of bug.

One year it was those.

The year of the cricket was the most obnoxious, though

You'd get one under your bed like "Hi. Hi. Hey. Hi. Am I bothering you? I'm not bothering you. Hi. Hey. Hi. What are you doing? What's up? Hi. Hi. Hey. Hi. Hey. Hey. Yo. Hi. Hi. Hey. Hi. Hey. Hey. Hey. Hi." all night.

Until the morning: "Hi. Hi. Hi. Oh are you awake now? Ok, peace." silence

Crickets are dicks.

Also, I hope they're proud of the fact that they're the universal mascots of awkwardness.

PR fail, crickets.

</totally-reasonable-cricket-rant>

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Jason C

5:38 PM

Lol, store.google.com/magazine/…

Dat nihilism

Jason C

5:59 PM

> Honestly, I think this isn't a bad way to do security on top of normal biometric stuff... Instead of looking at your camera, why not a series of faces?

Lol

They may have started something.

user315433

6:18 PM

Arrgh.. MathJax site going offline is apparently not an April Fool. :-(( So much internet breakage on math-containing sites.

user315433

For a random example: what-if.xkcd.com uses MathJax CDN.

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6:38 PM

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Jason C

6:58 PM

@Gerry The lack of automated /latest on their current suggested alternative is a big time bummer.

I wonder how this will all pan out.

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7:15 PM

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user315433

9:10 PM

April 1 is the first day of the year when sorted alphabetically. Happy New Year to JS developers!

Jason C

9:20 PM

Wow; this is a fascinating little write-up: tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2235

It's too bad the "up to date work" link rotted; I'm sure it's archived or moved somewhere just didn't bother digging it up.

Journeyman Geek

9:32 PM

Good morning fellow miscreants.

I just realised, at 5am in the morning that someone who was in uni with me works for google, so I messaged him asking if he could put in a referral for me on linkedin. Also staying motivated on a job search is hard.

user315433

On that subject, konamiman shared the cover letter he sent to SO when he got hired (a year ago).

user315433

Shouldn't "Hello!" be edited out, though?

Journeyman Geek

lol. I've been looking at their jobs site. ;p

But nothing's really turned up on the teams I really feel would be a good fit, and I suspect they just go "Hey, you want to join?"

Journeyman Geek

10:00 PM

Also, that cover letter is impressive T T

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tchrist

11:07 PM

@JourneymanGeek Oh wow, it's in a foreign language.

Journeyman Geek

@tchrist 0_0

English?

Jason C

Heh

tchrist

I've watched videos of Nestor.

He's a Spaniard.

Jason C

Phrack.org's april fools joke an FBI seizure notice, which I actually discovered by accident, and the sad thing is, literally nobody cares.

Not even Reddit cares.

Journeyman Geek

@tchrist I was aware of that.

;p

I think I came across him (and probably a good chunk of the SRE and maybe dev teams) over time ;p

tchrist

11:10 PM

An Islander, no less.

Journeyman Geek

(Quite a lot of the SRE team's ex/current Serverfault, though, most of them seem to be quiet these days. Devs, I think its mostly on the room that shall not be named ;p)

or on announcements.

tchrist

Episodio 1 - Lo necesario para ser exitoso en esta carrera.

►

Néstor is at 4:00, etc.

And at 13:00

Journeyman Geek

ah. its... entirely in spanish ;p

tchrist

Desde luego.

Notice how he's the only one without an accent. :)

He's extremely engaging.

He has a lot of passion.

And he expresses himself clearly.

And frankly.

user315433

11:34 PM

> 1998: Link rot begins.

Jason C

Hehe

user315433

Seriously, the time between beginning of Internet and wide rollout of archive.org might become known as the Dark Age of the Internet.

user315433

and archive.org is not a panacea anyway, so we may still be in the Dark Age.

user315433

Ideally, one would be able to right-click any link and select "view target as at the time of link creation".

user315433

The current version is zakon.org/robert/internet/timeline

Jason C

11:42 PM

@Gerry Golden Age

Oh nice

It'd be fun to get a time machine and archive 30 years of BBSs, too.

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@JasonC If you once develop a time machine, you should already be informed about that yourself I'd suppose.

Jason C

Something I get really nostalgic is how completely disconnnected bbses were from eachother. Like, the joy of connecting to a bbs then finding a phone number list of other ones. Then exploring them and finding random treasures.

It was very video gamey.

Plus there was legit privacy

They could exist in complete isolation

user315433

Many of the later additions to that History file are pretty boring trivia.

Jason C

Yeah

But they could also be boring because we're well aware of it and it's in our adult timeline (well for me at least, anything post 1990 or so is rather boring).

It's sort of like the excitement of bbses that I just mentioned; once the internet was pretty ubiquitous a lot of things became boring / charmless.

The birth of the ethernet protocol is interesting. The birth of .mobi isn't.

user315433

It's also far less consequential.

user315433

11:55 PM

> .se domains become unreachable for an hour on 12 Oct after an incorrectly configured software update modifies all registrations

user315433

So that happened in 2009... so what?

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