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Anonymous
01:38
@JasonC I like your new post.
@JasonC I did support the CAD.SE proposal (saw this in your profile). It's unfortunate that CAD.SE didn't make it.
user202362
!!/tea
@Telkitty brews a cup of mint tea for @Telkitty
02:03
@NickAlexeev It was such a bummer. Three tries (at least), all failed.
Oh boy my profile is out of date. I forgot it existed.
user315433
Have you heard? There's a new new new nav on http://stackoverflow.com - our version naming scheme is working out perfectly
user315433
Someone from SO, maybe Nick, registered thenewnewnewipad.com
02:18
That is hilarious.
@Shog9 meh, I don't believe that, there are cool parents
there's even cool grandparents
I dunno tho, probably isn't at all feasible.
Makes me happy enough to talk to people like her.
I really hope nobody I know irl bothers to search for bjb568 and finds this.
meh, if they try hard enough, they can have their fun, I guess
user315433
Using a variety of display names might alleviate the issue.
That's just what a Normal Human would say.
Sounds more like Homegrown Tomato to me.
@JasonC clearly we need some sort of huge banner to remind you of it. I'll talk to design.
02:52
@Shog9 Just replace the blogoverflow.com front page with a reminder to keep your profile up to date.
The what?
Must be like mathoverflow, but for blogs. Shameless rip-off.
Man, birds have all the best names.
Also that sentence is awesome if you remove the comma.
I'll have to remember that; I never remember which floor the office is on.
Just ask the nearest man bird.
My god, I need to eat. Bbl.
I have three sets of leftovers in the fridge. Casserole, tomato soup, stir-fry (and boiled calrose rice). Choices are bad; they mean I go hungry longer.
(no, I'm not describing the casserole. The big advantage of casserole is that everything tastes the same once you put enough cheese on it.)
03:01
The premise is flawed. There's no need for silly things like "choices". Today's breakfast was a bowl of Frosted Flakes, a bowl of miso soup, eggs scrambled with goat cheese, and a pop tart.
I assume you just poured the soup over the flakes and topped it with eggs and cheese, then ate it using the pop tart as a fork?
It all fit in the blender, including the pop tart.
...and then you had a blender to wash. :(
shakes fist
Best purchase I've ever made: a cheap stick blender. Rinse, done.
03:05
It can handle smoothies and stuff?
ok, second-best purchase. First was a pair of boots from the local boot-factory, the year they closed the plant and moved all manufacturing to Mexico. 17 years and still holding up; a $30 can of grease maintains them.
@JasonC yup.
chops ice, chews through frozen veggies, shreds meat... Probably cost me $20
Yeah, the owners manual warns against doing any of that, and against running it for more than 60 seconds at a stretch. But heck, it's $20, who cares?
I've made more than that back in not going to the local smoothie shops.
Damn hippies and their reclaimed wood counters.
Nice. Cleaning my blender is terrifying.
Blender blades are like straight out of horror movies.
Oh god
Don't even get me started
My great-grandfather build a barn using wood pegs to save on iron. Damned if I'm gonna subsidize someone buying 100-year-old hardwood to decorate their overpriced sugar-water.
And there's always an old mirror frame with no mirror on the wall.
Welcome to every coffee shop in Brooklyn.
Aside: you can simulate the look of reclaimed wood by drenching cheap pine in vinegar and a dissolved lump of steel wool. #lifehack
Speaking of which, picked up a gallon of 30% hydrogen peroxide at the local grow shop yesterday. Gonna put that mold-killing answer to the test finally.
03:12
Killing mold with peroxide counts as a life hack?
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A: What is a permanent solution for black mold?

FabbyDepending on the environment this is happening in (pets, children, food preparation, ...) this permanent solution might not apply. A bit of back-ground: Mould is one of the oldest life forms on Earth and thus pretty resistant to pretty much everything... You can temporarily stop growth, but ev...

Possible that the actual hack is potassium cyanide. Not entirely clear.
Oh lol I remember that answer now.
user202362
Good ventilation - a permanent solution to remove the mold
The grow-shop also sells plenty of that. Big on safe horticulture around here.
Extra fun in tight apartment buildings.
user202362
03:18
Quicker solution is mold removal + repaint/reseal with silicon
user202362
Before:
user202362
This was the preferred solution in a couple of factories I used to work. "Nothing to do today; go paint the moldy walls."
user202362
After:
user202362
03:20
@Telkitty You do want to figure out what's causing it though. E.g. black mold in drywall from moisture coming from behind. If you seal it in without stopping the moisture you're asking for a good time later.
user202362
Did this less than a month ago
Heh I actually default to painting my walls instead of cleaning them any time I get dirt on them.
user202362
This is the shower
I've got a 5 gallon bucket of the paint sitting in the living room. It's weirdly convenient.
user202362
Going to change ventilation fan cover coz it's full of dirt
03:21
Oh right I was supposed to be making dinner.
To be fair, there's something of a long history there. Lime whitewash is alkali, and discourages growth; painting the milkhouse walls actually does more than scrubbing them.
That's kinda neat.
Ok bbl for real. Peace.
user202362
03:33
user202362
Cause for mould
03:43
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword with email in answer, email in answer: The best weapon for necromancers? by spell on worldbuilding.SE
user315433
04:06
Would be nice to be able to retract comment flags. There are sites where I'm guaranteed a declined flag when a one-flag rule on an obsolete comment does not trigger deletion; might as well retract it and save everyone time.
04:26
Would it make sense to migrate this to the central meta.SE ?
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Q: Shotgun users that post mulitple low quality answers

laptop2dLets suppose I'm a new user (below 1500 Rep) and all I want to do is gain reputation so I use the shotgun approach and answer as many questions as I can. While I'm doing that I'm generating low quality one sentence answers that get flagged and deleted on a daily basis. I see a few people telling...

05:01
@Telkitty Casus mucoris.
05:12
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title, blacklisted website in body, pattern-matching product name in body, pattern-matching website in body: This is part and parcel of Muscle X Tst 1700. by jinagaramee on apple.SE
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in title: Aviqua Wrinkle Complex The phrase by Allen Ritter on graphicdesign.SE
user202362
05:33
Snapchat lost 500 million in a year yet worth 45 Billion -the beauty of silicon valley IPOs, rich rip all the profit, and making the poor foot all the bills when things go sour. Make America great again! Creating more wall street like industries, because nobody really cares about true productivity</Sarcasm>
user202362
If it's any consolation - creatures on earth are dumb fish in a tank. With current level of technology, none of the specie has any capability of escaping if anything major goes bad on earth. On the up side, the chance of that happen in the next 100 years is still insignificant and when it happens, we will all be long dead
06:37
@Telkitty I'll have you know Snapchat is based in southern California.
@Norm congrats for getting back to your true name! :D
hmm... so what is @qwer called now...
oh, back to @Andrew of course. LOL
@NickAlexeev yeah, no harm in that. Worst case it will be closed as dupe, didn't make a search yet.
@Telkitty what is this?
user202362
@JonEricson and?
@Telkitty Not Silicon Valley. (This is IMPORTANT. ;-)
@JonEricson so n00bish of them.
user202362
@ShadowWizard ventilation on bathroom roof - moisture can not escape well because it's covered in dirty
06:44
I mean, all the pro's are located in that Valley. :D
@ShadowWizard It's the hip new thing.
@JonEricson only if Google will move too. ;)
@Telkitty ewww. So you cleaned it?
user202362
@ShadowWizard amazon is based in Seattle if I am not wrong so is Microsoft
user202362
@ShadowWizard yeah ... I don't live there so don't give me weird looks
@Telkitty huh? Oh, are those taken from LH post?
06:49
Google is everywhere now. Can't shake a stick without hitting some sort of data center or YouTube production facility.
@Telkitty wrong for Microsoft
> Microsoft Redmond campus, Redmond, Washington, U.S.
I'm surprised there's no new State named Microsoft.
@SmokeDetector tpu-
2 years, 3 months member of SO wonder what triggered this... :/
user202362
@ShadowWizard Redmond is a suburb of great Seattle, trust me, I have been visited their campus before
@Telkitty oh, huh. blush
I only visited California. :/
user202362
@ShadowWizard I had to fix the place when last tenant moved out, it's the before and after photo of the bathroom
@Telkitty oh, so those are your pictures, but not your own house. I see. #slowLearner
user202362
06:56
it's my house, I rented it out, currently I live in one of my parents houses
hmm... either this answer is wrong, or there is a bug in the abandoned users removal process. this user did not visit for over two years, no reputation, and still not deleted.
@Telkitty yeah, figured that, meant "not the house you actually live in". :)
user202362
correct
Renting a house to someone else is nice, gives you some space to breathe, money-wise.
user202362
true
(is there a word as "renter"?)
user202362
06:59
yes ... and tenant
good to know...
So I can't star deleted message?
user202362
so you can't date dead people? </sarcasm>
If so,why is it showing star option (it should not show as reply option is also not shown)
@ShadowWizard ^
@Ramanujan in chat? Nope, you can't. (you can star a deleted question)
:5822798 test
@Ramanujan reply option also shows up
and results in broken reply
07:04
In chat if I can't star,then why is there star option…need to update!
Reply option is not shown,after message is deleted
:3093039 (something) will shown when message is not deleted (and will not ping is in middle Messenger is deleted)
@ShadowWizard ;D
oh
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Q: Flag / Star buttons are visible but locked for removed messages

Camil StapsWhen you hover a message that has been deleted, you can see the flag/star buttons but cannot click on them. The reply button is removed. What is the use of such a button if you can't use it? I propose the following: Remove the star button, it isn't useful to be able to star a removed message ...

@ShadowWizard nice search :)
07:08
@ShadowWizard fast delete my extra message in review meta.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/49414
Please
user202362
this is interesting: reply button is only visible on recently deleted messages
@Ramanujan huh! Gone only after page reload
@Telkitty F5
user202362
yes, reload works
@Ramanujan not sure what you mean. Rejected it, wrong way to bump.
damn, hard to type with right hand only as I'm left handed. Got a baby in that hand now. :(
Any possible legal way? To come in active section? @ShadowWizard
07:21
typing speed reduced by 80%
@Ramanujan make a valid edit, or bounty
@Telkitty well, too minor to be worth reporting
Hmm…how about asking exact duplicate question? People will hunt for original link
On MSE, the main purpose of bounties is for bumping, the devs don't really need that rep.
@Ramanujan no, don't do that.
Will deleted answers shown to others @ShadowWizard ?
I am thinking to answer it and suddenly to delete it
@Ramanujan yes
@Ramanujan no
don't do that.
Like I said..... valid edit, or bounty. Or valid answer, that will have meaning. All other options will be frowned upon.
(valid answer to feature request or bug report can be a feasible suggestion how to implement/fix it, in this specific case it's not really relevant, their code is not open source.)
I started bounty on it @ShadowWizard
:-)
07:30
@Ramanujan good! Now let's cross fingers it will work... chances are low, but who knows. :)
oh @Jason what key is stuck today? Or did you manage to clean the keyboard by now? ;)
i wish no one read it :)
08:11
@Ramanujan what is never written can never be read.
08:25
@JourneymanGeek That was philosophical
But pretty much every RO and dev can read it
user202362
08:37
what about mind reading?
@Telkitty Can you do it?
user202362
depends ...
What did I just think of?
user202362
can I read your mind?
No, wrong answer
user202362
08:40
:'(
user202362
meanie
But maybe you're deliberately giving me the wrong answer so I think you can't but you actually can
user202362
if I could read everyone's mind, I would be a god, but as you know, I am just a feral kitty
user202362
Or maybe you thought I'd think you'd give me the wrong answer, so tried to give the right answer but then that would be contradictory O.O
08:52
@M.A.R. Its also a good way to not say things you will regret ;p
user202362
user202362
I try to avoid reading people's mind because I think it's kind of like invading their privacy :p @M.A
[ SmokeDetector | MS ] Bad keyword in answer, blacklisted website in answer: Is there anyway to xcopy just changed or new files? by Aaditya Sinhania on superuser.com
@JourneymanGeek :/ it was once written,then I deleted it. So in mean time I hope nobody read. sorry for bad English wait, no sorry,it's your problem you don't know my native language
Or you can stop to think before you write things. Its super effective
09:03
I wrote message,then I was playing with my enter key
09:40
@Ramanujan stop playing with keys, it can become messy.
We all know what happens to Tim when he loses his keys
user202362
he became a homeless?
Apparently he starts downvoting
When will Tim lose all of his keys?
Right after he loses his marbles
09:55
@Bart Tim Stone?
user202362
@Bart that's only 1 scenario - if he lost his keys and didn't carry a laptop with him then he couldn't downvote
@Telkitty you underestimate the power of The Tim
Nowadays, it's voice-controlled. He could just mumble "Ah dammit, where's my key," and IoT will do its work (i.e. downvote a random post).
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user202362
@ShadowWizard he could downvote thru brainwave?
@Telkitty not yet, Nick must finish SSL support first. Unsecure brainwave transmission can lead to nasty things.
user202362
10:04
brainwifi
10:50
Ah dammit, where's my key
11:22
@M.A.R. in the hole (door)
11:36
Is leverage a Dutchism or so? Given this edit. Using leverage is always wrong in the contexts I use it?
Isn't leverage a synonym of exploit?
I'd say leverage there would be okay. It's a bit exaggerated (leverage is not just "use"), but it's not necessarily wrong.
(yeah yeah, plenty of people say it's not to be used as a verb, but meh)
Google's define mentioned "use (something) to maximum advantage." Well, it's good to use SEDE to maximum advantage(?)
12:09
Hello. I have a quick question about bounties - hope this isn't a terribly wrong place to ask it. So I placed a bounty on a question and did indeed get one answer. However, this answer does not satisfy meas it still does not solve the problem fully. Now bounty time ended and I "have 21 hours to award the bounty". Should I award the non-satisfying answer? Will it automatically be awarded if I do nothing (has 1 upvote)?
You don't have to award it at all. And with 1 upvote I don't think it qualifies for automatic assignment
@AndrewT. nope
Okay thanks
np
@Bart it doesn't, but it does with two. So if it will get another upvote it will get half the bounty.
12:12
Yup
And will the bounty revert back to me? So I could potentially create another one with more rep? (It is on another network site where I just have the 101 rep)
No
A bounty is like an advertisement fee.
Once you paid it, it's gone
Okay, makes sense
And if you think "I don't want the answer to get the automatic bounty", that's currently not possible
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Q: Explicit "do not award bounty" button

Jan SchejbalShouldn't there be a way to prevent automatic awarding of a bounty? For example, if someone provides an answer that sounds good but is totally wrong, it may happen that it gets a score of +2, but doesn't deserve the bounty. If no one else answers, half the bounty will automatically go to this per...

All right, thanks for your help
12:40
@Bart no,if OP deletes his question then? (I once got my bounty rep back I didn't remembered why :P)
Questions with a bounty can't be closed or deleted afaik. You could only have gotten the bounty back via explicit moderator intervention
Oh,yeah,mods
Why there is no special option to upload photo for me ?
@Bar ^
You're below 100 rep
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Q: SO Chat No Upload Button

Philippos SlicherI was in an SO chat room with some awesome people and I noticed that I don't have the upload button, I only have send. All I have is this: And that's what another user sees:

user202362
12:47
poor thing ... you know chats routinely bully little newblet like you right
Shog will have fairly little to do with it, and calling him a fool is always a risk. But sure, there are workarounds.
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@Bart I edited,I was think for appropriate word to replace
user202362
low rep users are allowed in because we need some prey to practice our moves on, you know, what better thing to use those sharp teeth of iron claws on than a newblet
Who started my message,read once agin I was thinking for appropriate word to replace
@Ramanujan Calling the people in charge of a website "fools" is never appropriate, it's utterly disrespectful.
12:50
Hey,how many times I need to say sorry for bad English,I don't know what is respectful word to replace there
I also made it slant,didn't you saw? I don't know what word to replace, (sorry English man)
user202362
we have no problem with people with bad english, but this site is generally anti-idiots
@Ramanujan There's no respectful word to put there — you can probably just skip the need to put a name to call people there. You could just have said "hah! I can still post images here, see?"
user202362
I mean, idiots should have equal rights, just not equal rights with us ...
Making it slant (or italic) makes it worse... since the usual meaning of italic is "emphasise"
@JNat An,thanks,I am learning English so please never mind to correct me :)
@AndrewT. oops,I was hugely wrong,thanks for pointing out :-)
So let's come to point,what is use of not showing button when others(<0.1k reputation) can technically upload image?
12:58
So you can't just go into a chatroom with no rep and easily upload images. It's a hurdle. Not a full stop.
Hey,in this answer mod is saying I am not allowed,If I upload then I will get chat ban?
Technically you're not uploading anything via that button. You're just posting a URL to an image which the chatroom then includes
But, start posting too many images or images with dubious content and you'll find yourself in trouble soon
@Bart did I did before I don't know? So i will not do it again…
?
@Ramanujan That depends on whether or not did you did before you did or not. If so, you may not have, otherwise, it's possible.
OK,please inform me , I will stop,btw nice site
13:10
No idea if you did it before. But you'll generally be told to stop doing something in here if we don't like it.
In generally only flag accidentally
So, I just made up a bunch of random words because I thought it was funny. Did I accidentally make sense? I have no idea what you guys are talking about.
Ah,don't flag,first tell me please,@everyone , I don't want direct ban,I am trying to loose bad habits
@Ramanujan Trying not to get flagged is a great way to lose bad habits. Use that as your motivation.
I will not know if someone flagged me,so please inform before flagging,and give a chance
user202362
rofl Jason Cat 👍
13:14
@Telkitty nice way to clean your floor ✌👍
> I post questions to get answers. I post answers because I had questions once and no one to answer them.
@ShadowWizard I finally fixed it, lol.
It almost took out backspace.
Close call. Too close.
@Ramanujan Seems like a good philosophy.
Don't fear from me @JasonC :-)
Oh don't worry. I don't.
The only thing @JasonC fears is how Jason A and B got out of the basement, and if they're out for revenge.
I do not question Jason A and B's loyalty.
That's right. Fear from me.
13:28
I was clicking to edit, never mind :)
How to grow beta site fastly ? (As being common user as me)
That's a complicated question.
Let's see, there's some basic tips at meta.stackexchange.com/a/223675/230261 I suppose.
For the most part, ask good questions, give good answers. Seeing that the site is a good resource with interesting content will hopefully attract and keep new users.
Community attitudes are important, too.
Community attitude means?
Pay attention to the site's meta, you can see what folks consider problems and successes to be there.
13:34
Also don't forget to vote. Don't just upvote good posts, but also downvote low quality posts.
And conversely don't just downvote low quality posts, upvote good ones, too.
@Ramanujan It means the attitude of the community often has an impact on success. I don't want to explain it more because I don't feel like having a crazy huge conversation about it right now. I haven't even had any coffee yet today.
Good morning
Just remember your goals are: Provide good content, provide a good resource for others, and attract new users that stick around. Think about ways you can make all those things happen.
Thanks. 8:30 AM here. Speaking of coffee, BRB.
Okey
Oops,I was about to ask a good question but it has already been asked (😨with 7 upvotes , unlucky)
Hoa, 56284 times viewed
Why no reputation gain on upvotes on meta? What is reason behind?
@Ramanujan Because meta votes tend to represent if people agree/disagree with you, rather than the quality of your content. So they don't really relate to reputation's intended purpose on the main site.
You get points on MSE though. Just not on site metas.
13:50
So I can dumb answer to any questions and result will be just down votes as people don't agree. Moderator can't do anything to me right?
?
You can post dumb answers to any questions and the results will just be down votes if people don't agree. But the moderators can still do anything they want to you if you are consistently disrespectful or inappropriate. And flags and review queues still exist, if you post something that isn't an answer, for example, expect it to be reviewed and possibly removed just like on the main site.
You are still expected to be reasonable and polite on meta.
Ah,I mean on topic answers,like debating answers. For example one say to implement board policy then I will answer in against to don't implement home work policy
There is some discussion at meta.stackexchange.com/q/66412/230261. I'm sure there's a better post about it somewhere I just can't find it.
@Ramanujan Yes, exactly.
That would be totally fine, and civil discussion is encouraged and valuable, even if your opinion is not shared.
@JasonC I see
14:14
Why should I share when I can't answer/edit/vote/star/flag any questions? Huh?
Wait .. what? Documentation doesn't have actual moderator flags?
@Bart to me?
No
I need urgent maths help,any maths professor here?
I think it's time to create temporary account
Probably not a great idea.
14:17
@Ramanujan Do you want to get a decade long suspension?
@JasonC can you help in maths?
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Q: Can I take limits under a limit?

DMH16Is the following method correct? I know you cannot replace an expression with a sub-expression in a limit, but is this the case? I am talking specifically about lines $2$ and $3$. If this is not the correct way, why is my answer correct? How should I approach such limit? Thank you for any help!$$...

Please don't spam your question here.
It's not mine,I have one doubt in it
same difference
Its really bad chat etiquette
OK,bye
14:19
Later
I don't think I understand by…later
It means see you later
as opposed to never again.,
!!/reboot
@JasonC how? ;)
!!/alive
14:27
@AndrewT. ... did I miss something?
@SmokeDetector not really...
@ShadowWizard Use your imagination.
@SmokeDetector lots of drama
@JasonC this usually end up badly
Wiktionary kinda sucks.
@JasonC why? I often find it helpful.
14:35
It's just the people behind it..
It's not unhelpful. It's just weirdly arbitrary. There's no {{citation needed}} tag support, and it's essentially a pseudo-civilized form of Urban Dictionary.
Note that I only claim it "kinda sucks".
24 mins ago, by Ramanujan
Why should I share when I can't answer/edit/vote/star/flag any questions? Huh?
?
It's just a general suggestion to share to other people who might be able to answer the question.
They are trolling us
Again?
14:41
? I don't think I understand by … Again?
I know English is not your native language, but using words you probably don't understand... I don't recommend it.
That was so rude,I can get ban ,lol
14:58
@Ramanujan you know you requested some time ago to be told when we were about to flag you, right? Let me tell you that after being perfectly polite earlier on, you're starting to move towards behaviour again that makes me consider the flagging option (knowing full well about your ban and earlier chat behaviour)
Do with that as you wish
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